Nadcap MANAGEMENT COUNCIL
UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
OCTOBER 27, 2004
PITTSBURGH MARRIOTT CITY CENTER
PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a
subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or
recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any
agency.
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2004
Call meeting to order & record attendance
The following representatives were in attendance:
NMC Voting Member in Attendance:
Dianna Berube
Chet Daté
Jim Dolbee
Ed Englehard
Jerry Erickson
Alessandro Ferretti
Philippe Gastebois
Richard Kana
Bill Lodwick
Arne Logan
John McBrien
Steve Meyer
David Mitchell
Jay Park
Chatt Rhodes
Dan Smith
David Soong
Mike Spencer
Eddy Turner
Camille Valmy
Jerry Wahlin
Kevin Ward
Pratt & Whitney
Honeywell
Raytheon Aircraft
Owego Heat Treat, Inc.
Rockwell Collins Inc.
Alenia Aeronautica
AECMA-PRO
PTI Industries
Praxair
The Boeing Company
GSA
Eaton Aerospace
Mitchell Laboratories
Northrop Grumman
Cessna Aircraft
GE Transportation
Hamilton Sundstrand
Vought Aircraft
Bombardier Aerospace
Airbus
AAA Plating
Goodrich
Meeting Attendees:
Bob Akin
Rossella Andreozzi
Chuck Alvarez
Peter Atwell
Ward Barcafer
Stephen Bauer
Randy Bean
Mark Brown
Quality Heat Treating
Alenia Aeronautica
Goodrich Aerostructures
Airbus
The Boeing Company
Northrop Grumman
Goodrich Landing Gear
Sun Coast Heat Treat
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Wayne Canary
Jeff Cerre
Gilles Claveyrolas
Russ Cole
Mark Covert
Phillip Cox
Cindy Crass
Diana Crombie
Jim Cummings
Robert Custer
Lucia Cutillo
Hassan Dabiri
Bill Davis
Mike Davis
Chris Diepenbrock
Uta Dietrich
Tom Downes
Donald Dziachan
Ranier Endress
Will Engelhard
Yves Esquerre
Edward Everhart
Robert Faticanti
Aleck Featherston Jr.
Sylvia Franklin
Richard French
Niko Gjaja
Mark Gleason
John Gourley
Ed Green
Paul Grenier
Paul Grevatt
Dale Harmon
Gerald Harvey
Jon Higgins
Trevor Hiscox
Bob Hogan
Mike Hopkins
Don Horzewski
Mussadiq Hussain
David Isenberg
Eric Jacklin
Jim Jacob
Miraflor Jacobs
Eddie Jones
Keith Kastner
Phil Keown
Betty Kocsis
Earl Koechig
Bob Koukol
Rolls-Royce Corp.
Cessna Aircraft
Airbus
Northrop Grumman
Honeywell
Rolls-Royce PLC
Cincinnati Thermal Spray Inc.
Skills Inc.
Metal Finishing Co.
AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.
Alenia Aeronautica
Ducommon Aerostructures
GE Transportation
GE Transportation
The Boeing Company
Airbus
Hamilton Sundstrand
Eaton Aeroquip
MTU Aero Engines
Temperature Processing Co. Inc.
Airbus
Alcoa
Textron Systems Corp.
Bell Helicopter Textron Inc.
The Boeing Company
Alcoa Fastening Systems
M&P Lab Inc.
GE Transportation
Honeywell
Ducommun Aerostructures
Bombardier Aerospace
Airbus
Cincinnati Thermal Spray Inc.
Chem-Fab Corpporation
Rolls-Royce PLC
Airbus
Honeywell
Eaton Aerospace
Ladish Co., Inc.
Alert Plating Company
Parker Hannifin Corp.
F M Callahan & Son Inc.
MRAS
The Boeing Company
GKN Aerospace
Cessna Aircraft
GE Transportation
Honeywell
The Boeing Company
Honeywell
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Ralph Kropp
Bob Lehnen
Johanna Lisa
Lance Loeks
Donald Lowman
Terrence Martin
Andreas Mastorakis
Doug Matson
Stephen Maus
Hugh McGurgan
Heather McGregor
Bruce Melville
Manuel Mendez
Joseph Mnoz
Aaron Montoya
Tom Murphy
Gerard Nanni
Mitch Nelson
Tom Norris
Danny Ogle
Eddy Pham
Jeremy Philips
Larry Phipps
Tony Reed
Elena Ritoli
Carl Roche
Daniel Ryan
John Sattler
Jack Saunders
Stuart Sherman
David Smith
Andrew Snow
Ryan Soule
Stephen Spahr
Jackie Sternot
Alexandrina Stoica
Jerry Stutzman
D. Scott Sullivan
Christian Tyroll
Jim Vannatta
Jim Velten
Mark Vogel
John Vogt
Mike Watts
Brian Webb
Mark Webber
David Yamada
David Yates
Shen Yeh
Phil Yorgey
MTU Aero Engines
Bodycote Thermal Processing
Continental Heat Treating
The Boeing Company
Continental Heat Treating
Advanced Processing Inc.
GE Transportation
The Boeing Company
Rolls-Royce Corp.
Metallurgical Processing
Goodrich Aerostructures
Textron Systems
MDS-PRAD Technologies
G.W. Lisk
Alexco
Sikorsky Aircraft
Bell Helicopter Textron Inc.
Cessna Aircraft
Goodrich Aerostructures
Bell Helicopter Textron Inc.
Northrop Grumman
Cessna Aircraft
Alcoa Fastening Systems
Goodrich Aerostructures
Metallurgical Processing
Textron Systems
Honeywell
Raytheon Aircraft
Honeywell
Metallurgical Processing
Rolls-Royce PLC
Raytheon Aircraft
Howmet Corp.
GE Transportation
PAKO Inc.
Bombardier Aerospace
Turbomachinery Products
Honeywell
Impact Finishes
Bell Helicopter Textron Inc.
MRAS
GKN St. Louis
Nordam
GKN Aerospace
Hexcel
Raytheon IDS
The Boeing Company
Alcoa Fastening Systems
Northrop Grumman
Hexcel Pottsville Corp.
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Jason Zagula
Cessna Aircraft
PRI Staff in Attendance:
Jerry Aston
Mark Aubele
John Barrett
Jim Bennett
Linda Bliss
Don Buehler
Nigel Cook
Jeff Conrad
Apryle Craig
Bill Dumas
Laura Fisher
Phil Ford
Michael Forman
Jennifer Gall
Lisa Glavan
Mike Graham
P. Michael Gutridge
Arshad Hafeez
Judy Herilla
Samantha Jeswald
Joanna Leigh
Jim Lewis
David Luoni
Heather Meyer
Scott Nelson
Mike Ploucha
Keith Purnell
Seema Saleem
Glenn Shultz
Ian Simpson
Louise Stefanakis
Bill Wagner
1.0
Opening Comments
1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check
1.2 Introductions
1.3 Routing of Attendance List
1.4 Approval of minutes from Previous Meeting
1.5 Membership
The meeting was called to order and it was determined that there was
quorum. It was also noted that PRI and AECMA-PRO members are nonvoting members to the Nadcap Management Council.
A motion was made to approve the NMC Steering minutes from the July
2004 Nadcap meeting. The motion was seconded and the July 2004 NMC
Steering minutes were approved.
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A motion was made to approve the NMC minutes from the July 2004 Nadcap
meeting. The motion was seconded and the July 2004 NMC minutes were
approved.
The following new Nadcap Management Council members were recognized:
 Jim Dolbee – Raytheon Aircraft
 Jerry Erickson – Rockwell Collins
 Alessandro Ferretti – Alenia Aeronautica
 Bill Lodwick - Praxair
 Eddy Turner – Bombardier
PRI Staff member John Barrett was recognized for his contributions to the
IAQG and was presented an award.
The following suppliers were recognized for their contributions to the Supplier
Support Committee:
 Ed Englehard – Owego Heat Treat Inc.
 Stuart Sherman – Metallurgical Processing Inc.
 Jim Cummings – Metal Finishing Co.
Arne Logan was recognized as the outgoing Nadcap Management Council
Chairperson and was presented with the Nadcap Leadership Jacket as well
as the Nadcap Leadership plaque.
2.0
PRI/Nadcap Status Report
- Introduction of new staff
- Audit Projections
- Auditor Projections
- Prime Subscriptions
- eAuditNet Status
- Europe and Asia Progress
Arshad Hafeez gave the PRI/Nadcap Status Report. It was noted that the
number of audits projected for 2004 was 2,785 and currently 2,854 audits have
been scheduled for 2004. It was also noted that another 5% reduction in audit
fees will take place for 2005. This makes three consecutive years for a 5%
reduction in fees.
3.0
NMC Chairpersons’ Report
Chet Daté gave the NMC Chairpersons’ Report. The report covered the Nadcap
Vision and Strategies, 2004 third quarter metrics review and status, NMC subteams report out, and the Language Team report out. It was noted that the NMC
is building on the successes of 2003 of metrics driven decision making, subteams for efficient operations, as well as energized and fully engaged task
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groups, PRI staff and Supplier Support Committee. The priorities for 2005 will be
cycle time reduction and improvement in first pass yield.
4.0
Task Group Reports
Welding – The task group will be balloting all AC documents and sending through
the appropriate committees.
NDT – The task group had supplier participation during auditor training, and also
have a group of suppliers who would like to create an NDT supplier sub-team to
help promote supplier participation. Three baseline pilot audits were conducted in
Europe. The task group hopes to publish new standards and checklists by early
next year. Staff Engineer, Jim Bennett, was also recognized for receiving full
delegation at this meeting.
NMSE – The task group started the meeting week working on baseline checklists
and so far have completed a checklist for Nonconventional Machining only. The
task group hopes to have a baseline check list for Surface Enhancements by
next month.
MTL – The task group has been working to reduce cycle time and currently have
no audits in backlog. The task group is currently reviewing slash sheets.
HT – The task group made a request to the NMC due to a situation that arose
due to the Hurricane damage in Florida. A supplier’s facility was destroyed and
the supplier was forced to move to a new location. Currently there is no
procedure to handle this type of natural. It was noted that in the absence of a
procedure PRI could sit down with the supplier and work with the supplier on an
exception case, however the task group must look into the technical fidelity of the
new supplier facility.
FLU – the task group met in September in association with the SAE G3
committee. The task group is working to reduce cycle time and finalizing a slash
six checklist to be balloted this month.
SEALS – The task group will be meeting November 3, 2004 in association with
its SAE counterpart and will be working to revising its checklist.
COMP – The task group welcomed new Primes, Alenia Aeronautica, and RollsRoyce. The task group also conducted a symposium at this meeting and plans to
do another symposium at the January 2005 Nadcap meeting.
CT – The task group has finished their checklists and have balloted them to
Committee B. The task group has also finished a second revision of the checklist
for baseline criteria and is also looking at their auditor handbook for revision.
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CP – The task group provided a demonstration of their check list on demand
software and has also reduced their cycle time.
AQS – The task group reviewed NIP-002 appendix 5 for revisions, reviewed
NMC metrics, and discussed the status of AC7004 (AS9003).
FAST – The task group’s mission is to promote standardization of Fasteners in
the Industry. The task group’s goal is to complete a checklist by the end of 2004.
ETG – The task group met in September and conducted its first pilot audit in
August. The task group plans to publish its standard in the first quarter of 2005
and is also planning a second pilot audit in Europe.
WLD – The task group has balloted all of its AC documents and are currently
resolving all comments received.
5.0
Supplier Support Committee report
Ed Englehard reported on current SSC activities. These activities included the
following:
 Business Improvement Roundtable held on October 26, 2004
 2005 Supplier Survey Charter
 NDT Supplier Sub-Team
 Pre-Assessment Audit Sub-Team
 Escapes Sub-Team
 Supplier Executive Roundtable to be held on January 22-23,
2005 in Tempe, Arizona in conjunction with the Nadcap Meeting
6.0
Report on Oversight Audit
Chris Diepenbrock reported on the 2004 Oversight Audit. The 2004 Oversight
Audit was closed in a record time of 58 days. It was also noted that PRI staff
addressed not only all non-conformances but all observations as well.
7.0
New Business
The next Nadcap Meeting will be held January 24-28, 2005 Tempe, Arizona. The
details are as follows:
Hotel: Fiesta Inn Resort
2100 S. Priest Drive
Tempe, Arizona 85281
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Rate: $117 Single or Double Reservation
Reservations: +1-480-967-1441
8.0
Adjournment