CHEMICAL PROCESSING – SUPPLIER ACTION TEAM (CP-SAT)
MARCH 2015
UNCONFIRMED
UNCONFIRMED MINUTES
MARCH 4, 2015
BERLIN, GERMANY
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the CP-SAT in writing or by vote at a subsequent
meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the
CP-SAT and shall not be considered as such by any agency
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 4
1.0
OPENING COMMENTS
The Chemical Processing Supplier Action Team (CP-SAT) meeting was called to order at 4:00
p.m., on 04-Mar-2015.
It was verified that only Supplier Members and Performance Review Institute (PRI) Staff were in
attendance during the meeting.
Routing of attendance list
Introductions
Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME
*
*
*
*
*
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Eric
Jim
Mike
Phillip
Stephane
Tammi
COMPANY NAME
Jacklin
Cummings
Noettl
Brockman
Chaumeil
Schubert
F.M. Callahan & Sons, Inc.
Metal Finishing Company, Inc.
Magnetic Inspection Laboratory
Techmetals
Galion
LMI Aerospace-Tulsa
PRI Staff Present
Nigel
Cook
Review Rules of Conduct
The minutes from October 2014 were approved by Stephane Chaumeil and seconded by Mike
Noettl. Motion Passed.
2.0
NEW MEMBER ORIENTATION
Mike Noettl reviewed the Functions and Operation of the Nadcap Chemical Processing Task
Group (CPTG) as well as the role of this committee in support of the Task Group.
3.0
CP-SAT MISSION STATEMENT
The CP-SAT mission statement was reviewed.
4.0
STATUS OF OPEN ACTION ITEMS
AC7108 App B Test Methods: Surface resistance test sub-team has provided a proposal to the
Task Group and it has been accepted to go into the next revision. Action Item: Closed
5.0
NEW BUSINESS
Supplier Attendance at CP-SAT: Discussed ways to increase Supplier involvement in CP-SAT.
Direct Supplier involvement in CP-SAT has more teeth in resolving concerns relative to Chemical
CHEMICAL PROCESSING – SUPPLIER ACTION TEAM (CP-SAT)
MARCH 2015
UNCONFIRMED
Processing (CP) than any other group. Suppliers need to hear this message. There is a Nadcap
Management Council (NMC) proposal to limit the number of Supplier Voting Members (SVM) and
this limit is less than the present number of CP-SVMs.
Action Item: Nigel Cook to collate data on supplier/subscriber attendance over the last 5 years to
determine how numbers are changing. (Due Date: 22-Jun-2015)
Visual Acceptance Requirements: Concern that product is being rejected at Subscribers
because the new engineers don’t understand the final product and what is and is not acceptable,
e.g. masking line creep, undefined FOD. Specifications and drawings do not typically define these
items.
AMS2700: Latest revision requires the use of ASTM D1193 Type IV water for immersion testing
and make up of copper sulphate test solution. ASTM D1193 Type IV water has significant test
requirements, not just conductivity.
Action Item: CP-SAT to develop a proposal to submit to committee B via Bob Koukol. (Due Date:
22-Jun-2015)
SSC Representative: Dave Michaud has not attended recent CPTG meetings and there is
concern that he is not as in touch with the views of the present CP Supplier membership.
Action Item: Mike Noettl to talk to Dave Michaud about his ability to attend the CPTG meetings.
(Due Date: 22-Jun-2015)
Auditor Consistency: There seems to be a lot of audits, including initial audits that have zero
major NCRs. Is there any correlation with auditors that attend the annual auditor conference and
the number of NCRs raised by those auditors? Request that the Auditor Consistency team look
into this.
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DEVELOP AGENDA
Agenda for the next meeting to be developed by Mike Noettl and Jim Ringer with assistance from
Nigel Cook.
Any requests for agenda items to be added to the next meeting to be sent to Mike Noettl and
Nigel Cook.
MEETING ADJOURNED.