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Council 11 March 2013
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF KNARESBOROUGH TOWN COUNCIL HELD AT
KNARESBOROUGH HOUSE, KNARESBOROUGH ON
MONDAY 11 March 2013
PRESENT: Chair:
The Mayor – Councillor J Batt
Councillors:
A Handley, P McNamara, C Reid, K Sewell, N Smith,
A Willoughby, C Willoughby
Staff Present:
The Clerk and Deputy Clerk
Also Present:
S McBurney, M Pearey, (Commercial Estates Group)
P Sigsworth
Late Arrivals:
None
Early Departures: None
C13/070
ITEM 1 – To receive Apologies for Inability to attend the Meeting
Apologies were received from Councillors: I Avery, P Beardsell, A Gallico,
M Gallico, P Ireland, H McNamara, and A Wright.
C13/071
ITEM 2 – Councillors’ Declarations of Interest
All declarations are personal unless otherwise stated.
Councillor A Handley
Councillor A Willoughby
Councillor C Reid
Councillor C Willoughby
Councillor J Batt
C13/072
Item 12a) Member of Knaresborough Chamber of
Trade
Item 5) Chairman of Friends of Bebra Gardens
Item 6) 6.100.2873.FUL – Mr Butler’s next door
neighbour is an associate of mine.
Item 6) 6.100.578.Q.FUL – Mr Watts is a colleague,
and I am the Chair of the Hay A Park Residents
Association
Member of HBC – will consider any same item at
HBC in the light of any new information.
Item 6) 6.100.2873.FUL – Mr Butler’s next door
neighbour is an associate of mine.
Member of HBC – will consider any same item at
HBC in the light of any new information.
Member of NYCC – will consider any same item at
NYCC in the light of any new information.
ITEM 3 – To consider and if thought fit approve as a correct record:
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a) the Minutes of Council meeting held on Friday 22 February 2013:
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Tabled for the next Council Meeting to be held on 25 March 2013
b) the Minutes of Council meeting held on Monday 25 February 2013:
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C13/073
Tabled for the next Council Meeting to be held on 25 March 2013
ITEM 4 – KTC Public Speaking Session
a) Mr S McBurney from C E Group read out from a pre written presentation
outlining C E Group’s detailed plans concerning outline application for
Manse Farm, Knaresborough HG5 8HB.
Detailed discussion followed this presentation with Councillors raising
questions concerning ongoing traffic issues, local plan not yet being
finalised or approved, and querying whether Knaresborough could be
approached for further such developments in the future.
C13/074
ITEM 6 – 6.500.273.OUTMAJ (revised to planning application number
6.100.273.EIAMAJ/13.00535.EIAMAJ) – Outline application for erection of
600 dwellings, neighbourhood centre, primary school and employment uses
B1 and B8 including landscaping and associated access with access
considered (site area 42ha) Manse Farm, Knaresborough HG5 0SP:
RESOLVED: That KTC object as this development is too large and too far out of town,
therefore would lead to increased traffic congestion and car parking
problems throughout the town, and consequently KTC consider it to be an
unsustainable site.
Recorded Vote
All in Favour
Councillor J Batt
Councillor P McNamara
Councillor C Willoughby
Councillor C Reid
Councillor A Willoughby
Councillor T Handley
Councillor K Sewell
Against
Abstention
Councillor N Smith
The Mayor invited Mr P Sigsworth to speak.
b) Mr P Sigsworth invited all Councillors to the Chamber AGM on 19 March at
the Dower House, and then enquired as to why there had not been an
NDP meeting since November 2012.
Councillor Batt explained that the next meeting would be early April.
C13/075
ITEM 5 – Business Remaining from Previous Meeting (s)
Bebra Gardens security, letter from Head of Parks and Open Spaces, dated
22 February 2013.
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Councillor A Willoughby stated that there is very little difference to previous
plans, just the railing, and suggested that KTC write to object. Councillor Batt
agreed and stated that this is not the correct solution for the Bebra Gardens
as it would not stop projectiles being thrown. It was therefore
RESOLVED: that KTC object to this in the same terms as previously and further
recommend that consideration be given to other methods of preventing/
deterring people from throwing projectiles over. Unanimous
C13/076
Ref:
6.100.345.B.FUL
13/0338/FUL*
ITEM 6 – To consider the following Planning Applications relating to
Knaresborough and make such observations as may be appropriate:
Applicant:
Details of Application
KTC Comments
Mr C Butler
Erection of two storey extension, replacement
garage and conversion of roof space to form
additional living accommodation with installation
of windows. The Hawthorns, Harrogate Rd,
Knaresborough HG5 8DA. E434132 N456960
KTC object to this large two
storey extension as it will be
visually intrusive, in the green
belt, and will be seen very easily
as it is close to the road.
KTC object to the seven day
working week, the size of the
vehicles going in and out of the
residential area. KTC would like
to see restrictions on the use
when HGVs can access the site
with a view to the health and
safety of the school, two
children’s play areas and open
recreation spaces. Unanimous
KTC object to this application on
the grounds of visual amenity.
Unanimous
Change of use of building to car preparation,
receipt and storage with associated offices.
Manse Masterdor Limited, Halfpenny Lane,
Knaresborough, North Yorkshire HG5 0SL.
E435750 N457579
6.100.578.Q.FUL
13/00530/FUL*
Mr Simon
Watts
6.100.1065.G.PNT5
6
13/00539/PNT56*
Everything
Everywhere
(UK) Ltd
Erection to handrail. Police Station, Castlegate,
Knaresborough, HG5 8AR. E434982
N456967
Harrogate
Volkswagen
Display of one internally illuminated fascia sign
and one internally illuminated logo sign on
freestanding portal. Harrogate Volkswagen, St
James Retail Park, Grimbald Crag Road,
Knaresborough HG5 8PY E436738 N456357
No Objections
Unanimous
6.100.2533.A.FUL
13/00632/FUL*
Mrs K Moss
Conversion of commercial unit to form one
dwelling (Site area 0.03ha). 6, Victoria Avenue,
Knaresborough HG5 9EU. E435077 N458046
No Objections
Unanimous
6.100.2873.FUL
13/00707/FUL
Mr M
Reeves
Erection of single storey front extension. 5
Farfield Avenue, Knaresborough, HG5 8HB
E435742 N456461
No Objections
Unanimous
6.100.2338.E.ADV
12/04149/ADV*
6.500.273.OUTMAJ
13/00535/OUTMAJ
Commercial
Estates
Projects
Outline application for erection 600 dwellings,
neighbourhood centre, primary school and
employment uses B1 and B8 including
landscaping and associated access with access
considered (site area 42ha). Manse Farm,
Knaresborough HG5 0SP. E436488 N456903
That KTC object as this
development is too large and too
far out of town, therefore would
lead to increased traffic
congestion and car parking
problems throughout the town,
and consequently KTC consider
it to be an unsustainable site.
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ITEM 7 – Planning Correspondence
a) Planning Enforcements:
i)
Confidential Papers (2)
RESOLVED: To receive and note Unanimous
ii)
Outcome of Investigations – (3)
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Planning Enforcement: 13/00051/PR15 75/12476/FUL
Royal Mail, Knaresborough Delivery Office, Stockwell Rd, HG5 0JR.
Blocking off of public car park – The site was visited on 21 February 2013.
The outcome of the investigation is as follows: “When planning permission
was granted on 23/9/1975 (planning ref 6.100.194.A.PA) for constructing a
postal sorting office, there were no planning conditions attached to the
approval requiring the provision of off street parking for visiting members
of the public. As there is no breach of planning control no further action
will be taken in the matter and the case will be closed”.
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Planning Enforcement: 13/00049/PR15 64 Appleby Avenue,
Knaresborough HG5 9LZ .
Erection of rear extension – The site was visited on 21 February 2013.
The outcome of the investigation is as follows: “The single storey rear
extension under construction is permitted development and does not
require planning permission. As there has been no breach of planning
control no further action will be taken in the matter and the case will be
closed.
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Planning Enforcement: 13/00053/PR15 12/04242/FUL 1 Lunedale
Avenue, Knaresborough HG5 0HJ
Erection of fencing
The outcome of the investigation is as follows: “Planning permission was
granted on 10 January 2013 under planning ref 6.100.1750.A.FUL for the
erection of 2 storey side extension. The submitted details included the
erection of a new 2m high boundary fence that has been erected. As this
fence detail formed part of the planning application that was subsequently
approved no further action will be taken in the matter and the case will be
closed”.
RESOLVED: To receive and note the above Unanimous
b) Notice of Appeal against the Council’s refusal of planning
permission: 6.100.1381.N.COU 13/00010/REFPP – Change of use of
shop to coffee shop (mix of use class A1 – shop and A3 restaurants and
cafes). Nero Holdings Limited, 8 Market Place, Knaresborough HG5 8AG.
RESOLVED: To receive and note Unanimous
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c) Potential Residential Development – Land off Boroughbridge Road
Knaresborough
i) Initial Consultation -– email from Dacres Commercial on behalf of
Gladman dated 27 February 2013
Councillors’ discussion again centred around the problems resulting from
the development of a large number of houses on the edge of
Knaresborough, in particular, traffic issues at Bond End. Councillor A
Willoughby asked for a recorded vote, seconded by Councillor Reid, and it
was:
RESOLVED: “that KTC strongly object as development here would increase traffic through
the town and through Bond End, and that this is not a sustainable site”.
Unanimous
ii) Email from resident Greengate Lane Knaresborough
RESOLVED: “that KTC is sorry that the resident feels this way and invite him to the next
NDP Meeting”. Unanimous
C13/078
ITEM 8 – To note the date of the HBC Planning Committee – Tuesday
12 March 2013, 2 pm at Crescent Gardens, Harrogate at which the
following applications for Knaresborough are to be discussed:
No applications for Knaresborough. The Mayor moved to the next agenda
item.
C13/079
ITEM 9 - To consider the following Correspondence:
a) Letter from Head of Parks and Open Spaces dated 25 February 2013 to
consider Jacob Smith Park Entrance – Scriven Road.
RESOLVED: To receive and note Unanimous
b) Letter from office of Police and Crime Commissioner dated 15 February
2013 to consider Police and Crime Plan Consultation.
RESOLVED: To receive and note Unanimous
C13/080
ITEM 10 – Reports of Committees/Working Groups:
a) Neighbourhood Development Committee meeting 3 January 2013 – to
approve the recommendations.
RESOLVED: To approve the recommendations.
The Clerk mentioned that she had received an email from Councillor P Ireland
and read it out to Members. KTC felt that this should go to the NDP committee
who were scheduled to meet on 4 April.
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b) Office Services Committee meeting 18 February 2013 – to approve the
recommendations.
RESOLVED: That KTC approve the recommendations.
C13/081
ITEM 11 – Motions Submitted by Members:
Motion from Councillor A Willoughby:
“I propose that council should instruct the Clerk to call meetings of the
Neighbourhood Development Plan committee, adhering to the scheduled
dates published, without cancellations, postponement, or addition of extra
meeting dates, and that the Neighbourhood Development Plan committee
brings the plan to fruition without further delay”.
An amendment was put forward and voted upon as follows:
RESOLVED:. That all NDP committee meetings should take place on the appointed dates
unless it can be shown there is a good reason for the cancellation of the
meeting.
C13/082
ITEM 12 – Reports from Clerk
a. To consider commissioning the solicitor to act for the Town Council further
when dealing with matters associated with the Employment Tribunal
RESOLVED: That in view of the confidential nature of the business to be transacted re
ITEM 12a pertaining to Reports From Clerk be dealt with in private session
and, subject to the provisions of Section 1(2) of the Public Bodies (Admission
to Meetings) Act 1960 (as amended), the meeting be not open to members of
the public.
See Confidential Minutes
b. To receive and note the Finance Sheet – January/February 2013
RESOLVED: To receive and note Unanimous
c. To consider the charge for the hiring of King George V Field 2013/14
Following discussion it was
RESOLVED:”that that there be a modest increase of £10 to the charge for the hiring of King
George V Field for 2013/2104”. 4 in favour of £10 increase, 3 against.
Councillor Batt requested that he be recorded as being against this increase.
Recorded Vote
All in Favour
Councillor P McNamara
Councillor C Willoughby
Against
Councillor J Batt
Councillor K Sewell
Abstention
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Councillor C Reid
Councillor A Willoughby
Councillor N Smith
C13/083
Councillor T Handley
ITEM 13 – To receive and note Schedule of Accounts no: 395
RESOLVED: To receive, note and approve the payments Unanimous
C13/084
ITEM 14 – To receive the following documents:
a) YLCA White Rose Update January 2013
b) Letter from Rural District Clinical Commissioning Group
RESOLVED: To receive and note Unanimous
C13/085
ITEM 15 – Information Exchange
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Councillor A Willoughby mentioned ongoing works in Bebra Gardens being
undertaken by gardeners from HBC at very little cost.
Councillor C Willoughby informed members that there was much lobbying
by the people of Knaresborough in support of the Rotary Club collection
from Waterside car park. They have now had word that this can continue.
Councillor J Batt spoke about the archaeological dig and informed the
meeting that the full report would be available in a few days time. He
explained that evidence had been uncovered suggesting there had been a
very large building on the site which had been made redundant and the
stone reclaimed. Onsite Archaeology would not support any disturbance of
any of the archaeology on the site. If KTC wishes to install Services, then
a line from Victorian times which is already in place would have to be
used. Councillor Batt further confirmed that the holes would be refilled later
in the week.
Councillor Batt informed the meeting that the AGM of The Old People’s
Society would not be taking place due to a bereavement.
Meeting Closed at 9.35 pm
Signed by the Mayor: