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Council (Planning)
20 July, 2015
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF KNARESBOROUGH TOWN COUNCIL (Planning
Matters) HELD AT KNARESBOROUGH HOUSE, KNARESBOROUGH ON
MONDAY 20 JULY 2015
The Mayor – Councillor A Willoughby
PRESENT: Chair:
Councillors:
R Aspin, J Batt, S Batt, D Bulmer, M Clemmitt,
M Joy, J Monaghan, L Powell, B Rigby and
C Willoughby.
Staff Present:
The Clerk and the Office Assistant
Also Present:
County Councillor B Hoult, a representative from
Commercial Estates Group (for part of the meeting)
and 17 members of the public
Late Arrivals:
M Joy (7.33pm) and S Batt (7.43pm)
Early Departures: No members
P15/057
ITEM 1 – To receive apologies for inability to attend the meeting
Apologies were received from Councillors E Collins, D Goode, H Gostlow
and H Lyon.
P15/058
ITEM 2 – Councillors’ Disclosure of an Interest
Councillor R Aspin
Councillor J Batt
Councillor D Bulmer
Councillor M Clemmitt
Planning 2275 – acquainted with Cllr Rigby
Item 11.1 – acquainted with Mr Shaw
Member of HBC – will consider any same item at HBC in
the light of new information
Planning 2275 – acquainted with Cllr Rigby
Item 11.1 – acquainted with Mr Shaw
Planning 2275 – acquainted with Cllr Rigby
Item 3 - I work for North Yorkshire County Council
Planning 2275 – acquainted with Cllr Rigby
Item 11.1 – acquainted with Mr Shaw
Councillor J Monaghan
Planning 2275 – acquainted with Cllr Rigby
Councillor B Rigby
Planning 2275 – prejudicial as it is my application
Councillor C Willoughby
Member of HBC – will consider any same item at HBC in
the light of new information
Planning 2275 – acquainted with Cllr Rigby
Item 4 - acquainted with Mr Teggin, Mr Hewitt, Mr
Sigsworth
Item 5 & 7.1 – acquainted with Ms Godsell and
Councillor Hoult
Councillor A Willoughby
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Continued Councillor A Willoughby
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Item 5 & 8 planning 02944 – acquainted with Ms Hewitt
Planning 2275 – acquainted with Cllr Rigby
Item 10 – acquainted with Mr Smith from Fortune Close
Item 11.1 – acquainted with Mr Shaw
ITEM 3 – Presentation by Stronger Communities Delivery Manager,
NYCC - Stronger Communities Harrogate and District
Liz Meade introduced herself and her role within NYCC’s Stronger
Community Team. She stated that this was a key part of NYCC’s 2020
programme and it was to support the creation of local solutions for
services, providing a strong focus for public health. Liz is very keen to
know what is available in Knaresborough for the 11 to 19 age group, in
terms of youth support. Members were given a handout with contact
details and Liz stated that any feedback would be appreciated.
P15/060
ITEM 4 – Presentation by the Chamber of Trade -Town Criers
Mr Teggin introduced himself as the Vice President of the Chamber of
Trade. He then introduced the recently appointed professional Town
Criers; Roger Hewitt as the main Town Crier with Paul Sigsworth the
Deputy. He informed KTC that both had been enrolled with the
professional body the Ancient and Honourable Guild of Town Criers. Mr
Teggin advised that all bookings for the Town Criers should come
through him and handed out some brochures. Mr Hewitt and Mr
Sigsworth both briefly spoke outlining some of their duties which
mainly focus on community and charity events, but that they have also
started some evening and weekend guided tours around
Knaresborough. The Chamber are trying to make the posts self-funding.
Members were then able to ask questions and welcomed the fact that
the Chamber of Trade have taken on the responsibility of the Town
Criers and added that the Town Criers do Knaresborough justice.
The Clerk asked members if they wanted to make a resolution that they
recognise the Chambers Town Criers – she advised that this was what
the Ancient and Honourable Guild of Town Criers had asked the council
for.
RESOLVED: That KTC recognise the Chamber of Trade’s Town Criers for
Knaresborough. (nem con)
(The Chamber Members and Town Criers then left the meeting)
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ITEM 5 - KTC Public Speaking Session
a) Mr Shaw informed members that he would like to become a member
of a National Association – but that needed a signature from either the
Mayor or the Lord of the Manor. Mr Shaw let members know that he had
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been going up in to Knaresborough Market as an Independent Town
Crier up to this point, and that he is happy to go on as he is, but his
preference would be to belong to an organisation.
Members were then able to ask questions, these included,
i) whether Mr Shaw was a resident of Knaresborough or Harrogate and
ii) if he understood the tribunal Judges’ ruling that the relationship
between himself and the Town Council had irretrievably broken down.
The Mayor then moved to this item on the agenda.
11.1 - Letter from Mr Shaw (29/6/15)
RESOLVED: That in view of the confidential nature of the business to be transacted re
ITEM 11.1 pertaining to third party confidentiality, the item be dealt with
in private session and, subject to the provisions of Section 1(2) of the
Public Bodies (Admission to Meetings) Act 1960 (as amended), the
meeting be not open to members of the public.
Mr Shaw then tried to speak, but the Mayor advised him he could no
longer speak and that it would be best to leave the meeting as this item
would be taken at the end of a very long agenda.
Mr Shaw and his colleagues then left the meeting.
b) Ms Hewitt spoke to members about the scoping document for the
development at Flaxby. She was speaking on behalf of RAFT (Residents
Against the Flaxby Township). She informed members that this is not a
little village – it would be a town the size of Boroughbridge. They are
challenging the basic principle - do we want or need a new town? – A
major consultation is required. It would result in 12 years of
construction traffic. She pointed out that the A59 currently has movement
of 38,000 cars, and the extra houses would add around another 4,000
cars. This would have a catastrophic impact on Knaresborough and the
surrounding villages. She finished by stating that even passed planning
application for a large housing site in Knaresborough – but not a sod of
earth has been turned.
Members were then able to ask questions, these including, were
members of the public aware that HBC (Harrogate Borough Council)
doesn’t have much opportunity to refuse planning applications due to the
need to build 621 houses per annum. If HBC don’t grant approval, the
developer appeals, which is a serious issue for HBC to deal with.
The Mayor then moved to this item on the agenda.
ITEM 8 – To consider the following Planning Application
15/02944/SCOPE** Flaxby Golf Club, York Road, Flaxby,
Knaresborough, HG5 0RR.Scoping opinion for proposed mixed use
settlement comprising up to 2,213 dwellings
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The Mayor asked Cllr C Willoughby to explain a scoping document
This is for KTC to advise the developer what they would expect to
see/should be included on the environmental impact assessment.
RESOLVED: i) that the list from KTC to send back to HBC is as follows:Air Pollution,
Loss of Green Space,
Wildlife loss
Loss of Flaxby Golf Course,
Where the site could be expanded?
Will there be provision of a secondary school?
Impact on all secondary school pupils bussed to & from the site each day
Traffic impact on all the roads in & around Knaresborough
Loss of woodland
Loss of natural corridor for wildlife
Increased air pollution problems at Bond End & York Place
Loss of identity of Knaresborough
Need diverse provision of housing - high proportion of affordable houses
Pressure on the railway system
Impact on medical and dental services
(nem con)
FURTHER
RESOLVED: ii) a) That KTC do not believe that this is an appropriate site for a
development this size, (larger than a 1/3 of Knaresborough).
b) To write to the minister responsible for housing pointing out
the awful impact the policies are having on Knaresborough.
The above resolution was tied and the Mayor used his casting vote in
favour of the motion. Cllrs J Batt, S Batt & M Joy asked that their vote
against be recorded.
c) Ms P Godsell spoke about the bus contracts with NYCC and made
members aware of the reduction of the service between Knaresborough
and Boroughbridge. This would reduce from one bus every 2 hours to
only 3 buses per day. She pointed out the fact that buses are a life line
for some people. Cllr B Hoult then warned members that some bus
services would totally omit the early morning buses, the proposed
service will be concentrated in the middle of the day – this would
restrict people who use the bus as a means of getting to & from work.
Cllr Hoult offered to let members know the numbers using the bus
service once he had that information.
Members were then able to ask questions, these included whether the
operator did not want to run the bus service, and whether these were
sustainable.
The Mayor moved to this item on the agenda.
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7.1 NYCC bus subsidies consultation
RESOLVED: That bearing in mind the deadline - KTC defer this item to a future
meeting. (unanimous)
County Councillor B Hoult & Ms Godsell left the meeting
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ITEM 6 - To consider and, if thought fit, approve as a correct
record, the Minutes of:
6.1 Thursday 21 May 2015 (Annual Meeting of KTC - Mayor Making)
RESOLVED: That minutes of the Council Meeting held on Thursday 21 May 2015, be
approved as a correct record and signed by the Chair. (unanimous)
6.2 Monday 06 July 2015
RESOLVED: That minutes of the Council Meeting, held on Monday 06 July 2015, be
approved as a correct record and signed by the Chair. (unanimous)
P15/063
ITEM 7 – Business remaining from previous meeting:
7.1 NYCC bus subsidies consultation
See minute number C15.061 (c)
7.2 Email re: Harrogate and District Local Plan Consultations
RESOLVED: That bearing in mind the deadline - KTC defer this item to a future
meeting. (unanimous)
P15/064
ITEM 8 – To consider the following Planning Applications relating to
Knaresborough and make such observations as may be appropriate
Ref:
Applicant
6.100.1505.J.TPO
15/03078/TPO*
Mr R
Bentley
Details of Application
Felling of 1 Picea Spruce Tree T2 of Tree
Preservation Order 04/2007. Kingfisher
Spitalcroft, Calcutt, HG5 8JB
KTC
Comments
No Objections
(nem con)
Councillor B Rigby having declared a prejudicial interest in the item below, (6.100.2275) left the meeting and tool
no part in the discussion or voting thereon.
6.100.2275.B.FUL
15/02501/FUL*
Mr B
Rigby
Erection of two storey side extension. 25
Tentergate Road, HG5 9BG
No Objections
(unanimous)
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15/02944/SCOPE**
ID
Planning
Scoping opinion for proposed mixed use
settlement comprising up to 2,213 dwellings (Use
Class C3); a central hub comprising shops (Class
A1), financial services (Use Class A2), restaurants
(Use Class A3), drinking establishments (Use
Class A4), takeaways (Use Class A5),
employment uses (Use Class B1 (a) B1(b) and B1
(c)), hotel (Use Class C1), extra care facilities
(Use Class C2), medical facilities & community
building (Use Class D1); assembly and leisure use
(Use Class D2) and car parking; a primary
school/nursery (Use Class D1), other community
uses including recreation playing pitches,
allotments and other associated public open
space; installation of appropriate utilities and
transport infrastructure; landscaping and
associated groundworks. Flaxby Golf Club, York
Road, Flaxby, Knaresborough, HG5 0RR.
* Item to be determined by Harrogate Borough Council Chief Planner
P15/065
See minute
number above
C15.061 (b)
** Item to be determined by HBC’s Planning Committee
ITEM 9 – Planning Correspondence
9.1 Planning enforcement
RESOLVED: To receive and note
(unanimous)
9.2 Notice of Appeal
RESOLVED: To receive and note
P15/066
(unanimous)
ITEM 10 - To note the HBC Planning Committee Meeting – Tuesday 21
July 2015, at 2.00pm – Council Offices, Crescent Gardens, Harrogate at
which the following for Knaresborough is to be discussed:
The Mayor informed members that despite having no information on the
website when the agenda went out, there were in fact 2 applications he
would like to go to speak about on behalf of KTC, these being :i) Fortune Close
ii) Manor Road
RESOLVED: That KTC wish Cllr A Willoughby attend the HBC planning meeting and
speak about both planning applications listed above on behalf on KTC.
(unanimous)
P15/067 ITEM 11 - The following correspondence is for discussion:
11.1 - Letter from Mr Shaw (29/6/15)
The Mayor noted that this item had been moved to the end of the agenda
as it had been agreed to hold it in confidential session.
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The Mayor moved on to the next item on the agenda.
P15/068 ITEM 12 – Reports from Clerk
12.1 To approve the Schedule of Accounts (July 2)
KNARESBOROUGH TOWN COUNCIL
Schedule of Accounts - July (2) 2015
Payable to &
Description
File
Ref. No.
Amount
excluding
VAT
Re-issue of NYCC
Pension Cheque
48
1,012.86
T.L.C stationery
supplies
49
13.25
Wages Tax, NI &
Pension July
50 - 54
4522.93
Post Office Ltd - BT bill
telephone
55
66.39
13.27
79.66
5,615.43
15.92
5,631.35
TOTALS
VAT
2.65
Total Amount
(to be paid)
Notes
1,012.86
paid under
Standing
Order 5.4a(i)
15.90
4,522.93
5,631.35
RESOLVED: That KTC approve the accounts as above and the spending of
£5,631.35.
(unanimous)
12.2 Policy and Guidance on engaging with the Community
The Clerk read out a short report detailing the need for having a policy in
place for both members and officers to follow, as at present there is no
guidance.
The policy that was sent to KTC members was from the Monitoring Officer at
Harrogate Borough Council. Any reference to HBC had been amended to
read KTC.
RESOLVED: That i) KTC adopt this policy for staff and members.
ii) that OSC look at this in detail at the next but one meeting.
(unanimous)
The Mayor felt that the policy should include recognition of vulnerable groups of
people. Other members of KTC warned against, as this would be
discrimination.
The Mayor also noted that there was a different policy at HBC for officers and
staff. The Clerk offered to provide these for the OSC meeting.
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ITEM 13 - Reports from Committees/Working Groups
13.1 To receive and note the report from the NDP Working Group meeting held
on 30 June 2015)
The Chair read the email the clerk had provided, noting the Working Group
Chairs recommendation.
RESOLVED: i) That KTC go with the contractor Ruralis for the Neighbourhood
Development Plan work and apply for grant funding. (unanimous)
ii) To receive and note the report from the working group. (unanimous)
13.2 To receive and note the minutes from the OSC meeting held 6 July 2015
and to approve the recommendation from OSC regarding changes to
Standing Orders
RESOLVED: i) That KTC receive and note the minutes from the committee.
(unanimous)
ii) That KTC approve the recommendation from OSC and adopt the
Model standing orders with the changes as attached to these minutes.
(unanimous)
In line with KTC’s current Standing Orders – 2/3 of the council
(10 members) need to approve any changes to Standing Orders
– 11 members approved these changes to Standing Orders.
P15/070
ITEM 14 - Information Exchange
Councillor C Willoughby - Knaresborough in Bloom meeting Tuesday 21 July at
7.30pm at Knaresborough House.
Councillor B Rigby - High Street Competition deadline is 1 September – he is pursuing
this with the Chamber Of Trade,
Councillor R Aspin - highlighted an issue of watering plants at the station.
Councillor R Aspin - has been busy raising funds for St Michael’s hospice.
Councillor M Clemmitt - Town Twinning celebrations with Bebra visitors this coming
Friday, sadly a number of people had not responded to their
invitation.
Councillor J Batt - HBC are conducting an electoral review in the district – with
possible ward changes
Councillor A Willoughby - Performance Area meeting – apologies that it is not
happening this week – many people couldn’t attend so it is
being rescheduled
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The Clerk – drew members attention to a Walkers are Welcome email re an annual
get together – Monday 10th August 2015
The Clerk – email from HBC re misuse of Recycling banks at Chapel St Car Park
The Clerk – informed members that we are now in possession of an old Mother
Shipton Cave sign that had been found at HBC
The Clerk – ‘The Lions’ emailed regarding their Millenium trail and the booklet that
now needs modification. They are asking if KTC might help with a
donation towards a reprint of an up to date booklet.
Council agreed to look at this at a future meeting
The Clerk – ‘The Lions’ wish to inform KTC that they are hoping to have a dementia
expert to talk at their next meeting, 26 August
The Mayor then moved back to item 11.1 - & into confidential session as agreed
earlier in the meeting:
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ITEM 11 - The following correspondence is for discussion:
11.1 - Letter from Mr Shaw (29/6/15) - recognition as an independent Town
Crier and requesting a signature from the Mayor to become a
member of a body of Town Criers.
RESOLVED: That KTC ask the Clerks to write to Mr Shaw, thanking him for his
letter, and saying that KTC politely decline to
i) recognise him as an independent Town Crier, or,
ii) appoint him as a Town Crier to Knaresborough
Members also advised the Mayor not to sign the application form
(nem con)
The Mayor commented that he would let the press know the wording
from the resolution the next morning. The Clerk advised the Mayor that
she would send him the resolution above as soon as that part of the
minutes were finished.
Meeting Closed at 10.15pm
Signed by the Mayor (Councillor A Willoughby):___________________________