Responses to reviewers Associate Editor comments " Two independent reviewers have assessed you manuscript. We are sorry to say that we are unable to accept the proposed manuscript in its current form. However, we would be ready to reconsider our decision if you could address in a detailed way all of the reviewers’ comments. The most important comment, with which the Associate Editor fully agrees, is related to the critical lack of references incorporated in the paper. We would like you to follow exactly all of the reviewers’ comments on this issue, i.e., considerably increase the number of references in all parts of the article and update the references (by providing numerous references from the last few years). We would like you to note that we will transfer your revised manuscript to the reviewers (if you decide to revise it) and will ask them to specifically assess whether the reference list was sufficiently completed and updated. We have added citations – mostly from articles published within the last five years – throughout the article, bringing the total number of references up from 39 to 122. Another important aspect is that you should perhaps try to reach a more balanced point of view between policy interventions and community based interventions following the arguments provided by Dita Wicvkins-Drazilova, or at least indicate very clearly in your manuscript why you do not agree with these arguments." The paragraph comparing policy interventions with community-based interventions has been revised to reflect the reviewer’s concerns, and to include the reviewer’s valuable comment regarding the ability of community-based interventions to target low socio-economic and education groups (pages 9 and 10, lines 189-205). Reviewer's report 1 (1) Title: Public health campaigns and obesity: A critique Version: 1 Date: 3 November 2010 Reviewer: Robin McKinnon Thank you for the opportunity to review your manuscript. The issue of alarming high obesity rates are of great concern globally, and policy-level interventions appear to be important tools to improve diet and activity behavior, and reduce obesity levels. However, I have several major concerns about the manuscript in its current form. These concerns are broken into the areas below. Major Compulsory Revisions 1. For every declarative statement, one or more citations must be included. The number of cases are too numerous to mention here, but using the Background section as an example, each of the sentences here should have one or more citations from authoritative sources, preferably published in the last five years. We have added citations – mostly from articles published within the last five years – throughout the article, bringing the total number of references up from 39 to 122. 2. Update your citations. Many of the citations currently used to substantiate the points you are making in the text are outdated. This is a fast-moving field, with new results becoming available all the time. For example, using only one citation, (from 2004) to substantiate the point "The industry has strongly opposed legislative and regulatory approaches that encourage healthy eating when these may restrict its profitability" seems inadequate. The citations have been updated throughout the article, so that most citations are now from articles published within the last five years. To substantiate the point the reviewer has used as an example (page 10, lines 207-209) there are now 3 references, 2 of which have been published in 2010. 3. Related to the above points, I don't feel you provide enough substantiation throughout the paper, via citation, or by conveying rigorous methods of having adequately surveyed the literature, to support the argument your paper develops. Considerable updating and revision of citations would help address this concern. For example, in the Discussion, 4th para, you say that "There is sparse evidence that even the most well-designed of such interventions are effective at addressing obesity, either weight gain or maintenance, and virtually none in the long term", with one citation, from 2002. For such a statement, I would expect 5+ citations, preferably published within the last 5 years. The number of citations has been increased throughout the article and some textual changes have been made to improve the clarity of our arguments, and/or nuance our argument. (Examples of textual changes to nuance the argument are: page 3 line 54, page 4 lines 76, 77, 83, 84, page 7 lines 142 and 143, page 9 lines 190 and 191). To substantiate the example the reviewer has mentioned (page 4, lines 80-82), there are now 6 references, 4 of which have been published in the last 5 years. Minor Essential Revisions 1. Define clearly whether your paper and its recommendations refer to all developed countries, to a subset, or to Australia only The paper refers to all developed countries. Accordingly, we have added “in all developed countries” to the abstract (page 2, lines 29-30). Australia is only mentioned once the article (page 10, line 223) as an example illutsrating likely future obesity levels in developed countries. 2. Define what you mean by "community-level interventions." The distinction between community-level interventions and policy and legislative changes(your recommended approach) is not clear to me. For instance, calorie labeling or mixed use zoning changes might be considered by some to be both community-level interventions, and policy/legislative changes (at the local government level), and therefore seems confusing. We have added further detail to the explanation of community-based interventions and social marketing campaigns for obesity reduction and how we differentiate them from regulatory interventions (page 3, lines 61-67). The terms “community-level” and “community-wide” have been changes to “community-based” (page 6 line 125; page 9 line 192). Reviewer's report 2 Title: Version: Date: Reviewer: Public health campaigns and obesity: A critique 1 28 September 2010 Dita Wicvkins-Drazilova Major Compulsory Revisions: This is a good review paper, which uses many interesting references. I generally agree with the main message of the paper that policy and legislative changes focused on healthy eating and physical activity are more beneficial than community-based interventions and social-marketing campaigns focused on obesity. However, this claim is not properly argued or based on strong evidence. The main argument you use is not logically sound: you state that proper evidence of benefits of community-based interventions and social-marketing campaigns focused on obesity is missing, and then argue that policy and legislative changes focused on healthy eating and physical activity will be beneficial. However, there is also no (or very little) evidence that these will be beneficial at all. We agree that the logic regarding these issues requires strengthening. Accordingly, we have set out that “there is currently little evidence... in support of a regulatory approach to addressing obesity...” (page 7, lines 148-150). We have couched this statement in a new paragraph describing past successes in public health using regulatory reform, including an analogy from tobacco control, and suggest such an approach would also be highly likely to appropriately address obesity (page 7, lines 146-160). You also need to explain why you dismiss the idea of community-based interventions and social-marketing campaigns focused on healthy eating and physical activity. Community-based interventions and social marketing campaigns focused on healthy eating and physical activity have been dismissed based on the fact that such interventions rely on individual behaviour change and are thus ineffective. To clarify this, the explanation of this has been rewritten (page 7, lines 136-145). An explanation of the historic achievements of regulatory approaches to public health has also been added (page 7, lines 146-160). Also, there is no mention of other factors that might have impact on obesity levels, such as stress, lack of sleep or socio-economic factors. A mention of the impact of stress and lack of sleep on body weight has been added (page 4, lines 78-79). We have also added further discussion of inequalities in obesity by socio-economic status (page 9, lines 189-203). Below are other comments to various parts of the paper: 1) Second last sentence of 'Background': I would recommend replacing the word 'normal body weight and shape' with 'healthy body weight and shape'. This change has been made (page 3, line 56). 2) First sentence of second paragraph in 'Discussion' (starting with “Most community-based...”: It is a very strong statement. What evidence is it based on? The statement has been modified to reduce its strength and provide a more nuanced perspective. Six citations have been added to substantiate the point (page 4, lines 75-78). 3) Second last sentence of second paragraph on pg. 4 (starting with “The only substantially...”): Again, a very strong statement. What evidence is it based on, one reference? The statement has been modified to reduce its strength and provide a more nuanced perspective. Eight citations now substantiate the point (page 4, lines 83-85). 4) Last sentence on pg. 4: The paper referenced (10) is on adolescents and young women, so I would recommend saying “young women and female adolescents” instead of “women”. This change has been made (page 5, line 96). 5) Whole third paragraph on pg. 5 (starting with “Anti-obesity...”) This whole paragraph is based on no references. It also doesn't mention serious negative effects of pharmaceuticals. This paragraph (pages 5 and 6, lines 108-113) is now supported by seven references. A mention has also been added of the adverse effects of pharmaceuticals (pages 5 and 6, lines 111-112). 6) Whole fourth paragraph on pg. 5: Affordability is surely not the only problem of weight-loss surgeries. There are very serious risks associated with all types of weight-loss surgeries – this is well described in existing literature. A mention has been added of the serious adverse effects associated with surgery (page 6, lines 120-121). 7) First sentence of second paragraph on page 6 (starting with “The history...): It is a very strong statement. What evidence is it based on? Four citations have been added to this statement, which has also been slightly modified to provide a more nuanced perspective (page 7, lines 136-140). 8) Last sentence on page 7 (starting with “Without such a whole-system...”): This is not a possibility, it is already happening. For example, the system of subsidizing fruit and vegetables and increase taxation of 'unhealthy' foods is already undermined by strong agricultural subsidies into production of sugar, meat or diary products (in both the US and EU.) We agree, and have added the reviewer’s example to the paper (page 9, lines 185-188). 9) Second last sentence of the first paragraph on page 8 (starting with “Policy and legislative...”): It is false to believe that policy and legislative changes focused on healthy eating and physical activity will have the same effect on all population. For example, the system of subsidizing fruit and vegetables and increase taxation of 'unhealthy' foods might simply lead increased costs of foods for populations with low SES and poor education, while decreased costs of foods for populations with high education and higher SES. On the contrary, community-based interventions can focus specifically on areas (e.g. schools) with high density of families with low SES and poor education. This paragraph has been revised to reflect the reviewer’s concerns (page 9 and 10, lines 189-205). A mention has been added of the potential for community-based interventions and social marketing campaigns to address low socio-economic groups and people with poorer education levels (page 9, lines 195-197). An addition has also been made which sets out which type of policies are more likely to have a whole-population reach. Supporting citations have also been added (page 9, lines 197-202). 10) Second last sentence on page 8 (starting with “Improved high-risk...”) This is questionable and needs to be defended; there are serious risks associated with all types of weight-loss surgeries. Four citations now substantiate this point (page 10, line 220).