Fairy Tale – Feautures of Imam
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Salam alaikum,
Long time ago, when I was a child and like to read fairy tales, even in that time, I wouldn’t believe
in this idiocy!
Narrated by shaykh of shias, al-Muhadith as-Saduq in his “al-Khisal” (2/567-568):
Translation:
1 Abul Abbas Muhammad ibn Ibrahim ibn Ishaq al-Taleqani – may God be pleased with him –
narrated that Muhammad ibn Sa’id al-Kufy quoted Ali ibn al-Hassan Ibn Faz’zal, on the authority of
his father, on the authority of Abil Hassan Ali ibn Musa al-Reza (alaihi salam), “There are certain
signs designating the Imam. He is the most knowledgeable, the wisest, the most pious, the most
patient, the bravest, the most generous, and the person who worships the most among the people.
He was born circumcised. He is pure and clean. He sees the back as well he sees the front. He
has no shadow. When he fell out of his mother’s uterus onto the ground, he fell onto the palms
of his hands and loudly declared the two testimonial declarations . He has no nocturnal
pollution. His eyes go to sleep, but his heart will not go to sleep. He is inspired . The armor of
God’s Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ali) fits him. His urine and faeces cannot be seen since the
Almighty God has appointed the Earth to swallow whatever he excretes even though it smells
like musk. He has power over the people, although he is kinder to them than their own parents
are. He is the humblest of all people before the Almighty God. He acts upon what he advises the
people to do more than anyone else. He abstains from what he admonishes the people against. His
prayers are accepted such that if he wishes a rock to be divided into two parts, it will. He has
the weapon of the Prophet of God (sallalahu alaihi wa ali). He has his sword – the Zul-Faqar . He
has a list of the names of his shias up until the Resurrection Day. He has a list of the names of
his enemies up until the Resurrection Day. He possesses Al-Jame’a - that is a nearly thirty-five
meter long text which encompasses all of the needs of the human beings. He also possesses
the Jafr-i-Akbar and Jafr-i-Asqar that are a goat-skin and a ram-skin which include all knowledge –
even the punishment for a scratch or one, a half or a third of a crack of a whip. He also possesses
the Blessed Fatimah’s (alaihi salam) Mushaf.
2 And in another tradition we read, “The Imam is certified by the Holy Spirit. There is a column of
light between him and God with which he sees the deeds of the people. He is informed about what
he needs by it. As-Sadiq (alaihi salam) said, “This column of light is sometimes opened up to us and
we get to know and it sometimes gets closed and we no longer know. The Imam is born. And he
bore. He gets ill and he gets cured. He eats and drinks. He urinates and defecates. He gets sad. He
laughs and cries. He lives and then dies. He is buried and the people go to visit his shrine. These
conditions for him are general. There are two specific and important signs for him: his knowledge
and the fulfillment of his prayers. He has heard the news that he gives about the events in the
future from his grandfathers and they do so from the Prophet of God (sallalahu alaihi wa ali). The
Prophet of God (sallalahu alaihi wa ali) has heard them from Gabriel. Gabriel has heard them from
the Almighty God. All the eleven Imams after the Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ali) were martyred.
Some were martyred by the sword – that is the Commander of the Faithful Imam Ali (alaihi salam)
and Al-Hussein (alaihi salam). The rest of them were poisoned by the disobedient rulers of their
time.
Discussion:
1) He sees the back as well he sees the front? Then why Imam Ali (r.a) didn’t see ibn Muljam
attacking him?
2) His prayers are accepted? Then why Imam Ali didn’t supplicate against shaykhan, if they as shias
claim took his right to caliphate? Why Husayn didn’t supplicate against Yazeed? If they did, why
their dua wasn’t accepted?
3) He had a list with names of all of his shias? LIST?! HOW MANY GIGABYTES OF INFORMATION
NEEDED TO SAVE ALL THEIR NAMES?
4) Imam born, and he bore? ( ‫ ?)واالمام يولد ويلد‬HOW IS THAT?
Eyes on the back of the head
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Shaykh of shias as-Saffar narrated in his “Basair” (p 466):
Translation:
From Abu Jafar: Imam from us, he sees from his behind like he sees from his front
Imams of Muslims or Imams of Jews?
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Salam alaikum, in the internet you can find a lot of information that Shia Mahdi would rule his
nation in accordance to the laws of Dawud (alaihi salam). Here I’d like to present you the evidence
from known and well accepted shia book, that even all other Imams of Shias ruled in accordance to
rules of Jews!
as-Saffar narrated in his “Basair ad-Darajat” (p 295, Published by al-Alami, Beirut, 2010):
Translation:
From Himran ibn Ayun: I said to Abu Abdullah: Are you messengers? He said: No. I said: And it was
reported to me by those who didn’t reach you, that you said that you are messengers! Imam asked:
Who (said that?) Abul Hattab? I said: yes. Imam said, in this case he is raving (or deceiving .
Narrator said: I asked: And BY WHAT DO YOU RULE? Imam said: WE RULE BY THE RULE OF FAMILY
OF DAWUD!
Comments: SubhanAllah! Why so claimed Imams of Muslim nation have to rule by the rule of family
of Prophet of the Jews?!!
Why was created hell?
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Bismillah.
Guess why? SubhanAllah, if this is religion of shias, then it doesn’t make more sense than Buddhism.
Shia scholar Hujjatul Islam Mirza Muhammad Taqi in his book “Saheefatul Abrar” (1/335) narrated:
Translation:
……from ibn Abbas, that prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ali) said: Allah Jalla Jallaluhu said: If people
gathered upon Wilayah of Ali – alaihi salam – what for I (should) create fire?
Discussion:
So, making shirk, killing and rejecting prophets, and etc is not enough reason? You know what this
hadith mean? Do whatever you want, make shirk, lick graves, worship to saints and etc, just agree
to the wilayah of Ali!
Let us, like Muslims, Like Muwahidin, invoke curse of Allah upon each and everyone who lied upon
Allah and His messenger (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam).
Where Imam stays during the pregnancy?
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Abul Hasan Ali ibn al-Husayn al-Masoode in his book “Isbat al-Wasiya li Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib” (p
272) narrated that Imam Abu Muhammad al-Askari, 11-th imam of shias said:
Translation:
We group of Awsiya, we don’t reside in the wombs (of our mothers during pregnancy), but we
reside in the side (of them)
Nahl – 51, Naml – 61 and Zumar – 69 – shia commentary
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Allah Taala said in the Quran:
[Shakir 16:51] And Allah has said: Take not two gods, He is only one Allah; so of Me alone should
you be afraid.
And He also said:
[Shakir 39:69] And the earth shall beam with the light of its Lord, and the Book shall be laid down,
and the prophets and the witnesses shall be brought up, and judgment shall be given between them
with justice, and they shall not be dealt with unjustly.
Now let us check tafsir of these two verses, which shia ascribed to their Masoom Imam.
Shaykh of shias Mirza Muhammad Taqi in the book “Sahefatul Abrar” (1/244):
Translation:
Hadith 57
(Chain) from al-Mufaddal ibn Umar that he heard Abu Abdullah (alaihi salam) saying regarding
words of Allah “the earth shall beam with the light of its Lord” – Lord of Earth mean Imam of
Earth…
Hadith 59
Abu Baseer: I heard Abu Abdullah (alaihi salam) said: “Take not two gods, He is only one Allah” – by
this mean DON’T TAKE TWO IMAMS, HE IS THE ONE IMAM.
Hadith 60
From Abu Abdullah (alaihi salam), which said about words of Allah “Is there a god with Allah? Nay!
most of them do not know!” – Mean Imam of the Way with Imam of misguidance in the same time?
At the very same place, shia author talks about those who reject these kind of ahadeth, and ascribe
them to ghuluw. He says:
Translation:
And they are in the ignorance (ghaflat) regarding divine realities. Reports almost reach level of
tawatur, that shirk in the wilayat of commander of faithful is shirk with Allah, and disbelief in him
is disbelief in Allah, and who takes Imam along with him, takes God along with Allah.
Enmity of Ali is worse than saying that Allah had a son
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Shaykh of shias Al-Hilli reported in his “Kashf al-yaqin” (p 87, manuscript) hadith from prophet
(sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam):
COVER PAGE
ً ‫ع ََ َ َ َّن هلِ َولَدا‬
َّ ً ‫ق نَبِيَّا‬
َ ُّ‫شد‬
َ َ ‫ار أل‬
ٍ ‫عب‬
ِ ‫علَى ُمب‬
َ ََ ‫علَى َم ْن‬
َ ‫ي مِ ْن َها‬
َ ‫ْغِض‬
َ ً ‫ضبا‬
َ ‫غ‬
َ َ‫يَا بْن‬.
َ َّ‫إن الن‬
ِ ِّ ‫ َوالَّذِي بَعَثَنِي بِ ْال َح‬،‫َّاس‬
ٍِّ ‫ع ِل‬
Translation:
O Ibn `Abbas! By God who appointed me as a prophet, the fire of hell is more furious to `Ali’s
enemy than to a person who believes God has a son!
Knowledge of prophet and Imams
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Shia attributed to imam words which clearly goes against verse of Holy book.
Shia shaykh Abu Jafar Muhammad ibn Hasan as-Saffar in his “Basairu darajat” (p 127, chapter 6)
narrated:
1- ‫حدثنا العباس بن معروف عن حماد بن عيسى عن حريز عن َبي بصير عن َبي جعفر ع قال سئل علي ع عن علَ النبي ص‬
‫فقال علَ النبي علَ جميع النبيين و علَ ما كان و علَ ما هو كائن إلى قيام الساعة ثَ قال و الذي نفسي بيده إني ألعلَ علَ النبي‬
‫ص و علَ ما كان و ما هو كائن فيما بيني و بين قيام الساعة‬.
(Chain) Ali (alaihi salam) was asked about knowledge of prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa
sallam), and he replied: “Knowledge of prophet is a knowledge of all prophets, and (that
knowledge) is knowledge of what has happen and what gonna happen till hour of resurrection”.
Then he said: “And by That in whos hand is my soul, i know knowledge of prophet (sallalahu alaihi
wa ala alihi wa sallam), and (i know) knowledge of what has happen and what gonna happen
between me and hour of resurrection”.
Points to discuss:
1) Hadith says: Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) knew time of doomsday and imam
knew that also. Because if someone knows what gonna happen till such and such date, he
apparently knows that date also.
Allah said: [Shakir 7:187] They ask you about the hour, when will be its taking place? Say: The
knowledge of it is only with my Lord; none but He shall manifest it at its time; it will be
momentous in the heavens and the earth; it will not come on you but of a sudden. They ask you as
if you were solicitous about it. Say: Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most people do not know.
2) Hadith force us to belief that prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) knew future, and
imam knew that also.
Allah said: [Shakir 7:188] Say (O Muhammad): I do not control any benefit or harm for my own soul
except as Allah please; and had I known the unseen I would have had much of good and no evil
would have touched me; I am nothing but a warner and the giver of good news to a people who
believe.
Shia books say us that prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) was poisoned by his wifes
(walauthubillah). And we all know that imam Ali (may Allah be pleased with them) was killed. And
shias believe that all imams were killed, someone from them for example al-Hassan was poisoned.
If shia also claim complete knowledge of unseen to their imams, they should accuse imams in selfmurder!
Let us go further in reading “Basairu darajat”.
In the same chapter as above, at pages 127-128, as-Saffar gave another interesting narration:
3- ‫حدثنا علي بن إسماعيل عن محمد بن عمرو الزيات عن يونس عن عبد األعلى‬
‫بن َعين قال سمعت َبا عبد هللا ع يقول إني ألعلَ ما في السماء و َعلَ ما في األرض و َعلَ ما في الجنة و َعلَ ما في النار و‬
‫َعلَ ما كان و َعلَ ما يكون علمت ذلك من كتاب هللا إن هللا تعالى يقول فيه تبيان كل شيء‬.
(Chain) imam Abu Abdullah (alaihi salam) said: I know what is in the sky, and know what is on
earth, and know what is in the paradise, and what is in the hell, know what has happen, and what
gonna happen. I learned it from book of Allah, Allah Taala says in it: Book explaining all things.
I already posted above verse, where is clear proof that prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa
sallam) didn’t know unseen. How is it possible that imam learned all those things from book of
Allah, but prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa salam) didn’t?
Let us go further,
Allah Taala said in Quran:
[Pickthal 7:157] Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write,
whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them. He will enjoin on
them that which is right and forbid them that which is wrong. He will make lawful for them all good
things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will relieve them of their burden and the fetters
that they used to wear. Then those who believe in him, and honour him, and help him, and follow
the light which is sent down with him: they are the successful.
[Pickthal 7:158] Say (O Muhammad): O mankind! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah to you all – (the
messenger of) Him unto Whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no
Allah save Him. He quickeneth and He giveth death. So believe in Allah and His messenger, the
Prophet who can neither read nor write, who believeth in Allah and in His Words, and follow him
that haply ye may be led aright.
Very same as-Saffar entitled chapter in his book to reject this verse.
4- ‫باب في َن رسول هللا ص كان يقرَ و يكتب بكل لسان‬
Chapter #4. Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) could read and write in all languages.
In this chapter, at page 226, he quoted Muhammad ibn Ali ar-Ridha saying:
‫كان رسول هللا ص يقرَ و يكتب باثنين و سبعين َو بثالثة و سبعين لسانا‬
“Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) could read and write in 72 or 73 languages”.
Taala said in Quran about his prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) ‫ي‬
َّ ‫ األ ُ ِِّم‬/UMME/, and
that means the one who can neither read nor write
I was amazed to see an explanation of shias. Cursed Yasir al-Habib said that prophet (sallalahu
alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) was decribed as umme because he was from Mekkah-Ummul-Kurah.
Amazing how far could go shias in defending their false beliefs!
They tottaly forgot how was revealed surah al-Alaq.
Story well known in our book, so i would quote shia commentary.
In “The Light of The Holy Qur’an” tafsir that was compilied by Ayatullah Sayyid Kamal Faghih Imani
and a group of shia scholars, in commentary of surah al-Alaq (pp 122-123) we can read:
Some narrations denote that the holy Prophet (p.b.u.h.) had gone to Mount Hira when Gabriel came
and told him: Iqra’ (Read/Proclaim) . He said that he was not ‘versed’. Gabriel embraced him and
told him again to proclaim; and the Prophet (p.b.u.h.) repeated the same answer. Gabriel
embraced him for a second time, but was given the same answer. Then, for the fourth time he told
him: Read (Proclam!) In the name of your Lord who created, (and recited the first five verses) .
Also it’s well known from sunnah that prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) ordered to
one of his companions to learn jews language, to write to them, and to read their letters.
And we proceed,
Allah Taala said in Quran: [31:34] No soul knows what it will earn to-morrow, and no soul knows in
what land it will die. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.
Famous shia writer al-Kulayni in his book “al-Kafi” entitled a chapter which clearly rejects this
verse.
(‫)باب‬
* (‫ وانهَ ال يموتون‬،‫* )َن االئمة (عليهَ السالم) يعلمون متى يموتون‬
* (َ‫* )اال باختيار منه‬
The Imams (alaihuma salam) know when they will die and they die voluntarily
Let us have a quick look at some narrations from this chapter.
“al-Kafi” volume 1, p 258, #1
1 – ‫ عن َبي‬،‫ عن عبدهللا بن القاسَ البطل‬،‫ عن سليمان بن سماعة وعبدهللا بن محمد‬،‫ عن سلمة بن الخطاب‬،‫محمد بن يحيى‬
‫ فليس ذلك بحجة هل على خلقه‬،‫ َي إمام ال يعلَ ما يصيبه وإلى ما يصير‬:)‫ قال َبوعبدهللا (عليه السالم‬:‫بصير قال‬.
Muhammad ibn Yahya from Salamah ibn-al-Khattab from Sulayman ibn Samaa and Abdallah ibn
Muhammad from Abdallah ibn al-Qasim al-Batal from abu Basir from abu Abdallah (alaihi salam):
“Whoever of the Imams that would not know what would happen to him and to what events he
would proceed such a person is not a possessor of Divine authority over His creature.”
P 259, #3:
3 – ‫ عن‬،‫ حدثني َخي‬:‫ عن عبدهللا ابن َبي جعفر قال‬،‫ عن َبي جميلة‬،‫ عن ابن فضال‬،‫ عن َحمد بن محمد‬،‫محمد بن يحيى‬
‫ يا بني إن هذه‬:‫ يا َبت َشرب هذا فقال‬:‫ عن َبيه َنه َتى علي بن الحسين (عليهما السالم) ليلة قبض فيها بشراب فقال‬،‫جعفر‬
‫)الليلة التي اقبض فيها وهي الليلة التي قبض فيها رسول هللا (صلى هللا عليه وآله‬.
Muhammad ibn Yahya from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn Faddal from abu Jamilah from Abdallah
ibn abu Jafar who has said that my brother narrated from Jafar abu Abdallah (alaihi salam) from his
father that he went to Ali ibn al-Husayn (alaihi salam) on the night in which he passed away and
offered him a drink requesting, “Father, please drink it.” He said, “Son, this is the night in which I
will pass away and during such night the Messenger of Allah also passed away.”
P 259, #4:
‫ إن َمير‬:)‫ قلت للرضا (عليه السالم‬:‫ عن الحسن بن الجهَ قال‬،‫ عن محمد بن عبدالحميد‬،‫ عن سهل بن َياد‬،‫علي بن محمد‬
:‫المؤمنين (عليه السالم قد عرف قاتله والليلة التي يقتل فيها والموضع الذي قتل فيه وقوله لما سمع صياح االوَ في الدار‬
‫ فأبى عليها وكثر دخوله‬،‫ لو صليت الليلة داخل الدار وَمرت غيرك يصلي بالناس‬:‫ وقول ام كلثوم‬،‫صوائح تتبعها نوائح‬
:‫ فقال‬،‫ كان هذا مما لَ يجز تعرضه‬،‫وخروجه تلك الليلة بال سالح وقد عرف (عليه السالم) َن ابن ملجَ لعنه هللا قاتله بالسيف‬
‫ لتمضي مقادير هللا عزوجل‬،‫ذلك كان ولكنه خير في تلك الليلة‬.
Ali ibn Muhammad has narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad from Muhammad ibn Abd al-Hamid from alHassan ibn al-Jahm who has said that he said to al-Rida (alaihi salam) the following. “Amir alMuminin Ali (alaihi salam) knew his assassin, the night in of being murdered and the spot whereat
who be murdered. It is his words on hearing the ducks at the house, “These are the quacks that will
be followed by lamentations.” Also the words of Umm Kulthum (his daughter). “Would that you
pray inside the house and send someone else to lead the prayer in the Mosque.” He refused to do so
and at that night he went many times out of the house unarmed. He knew that ibn Muljim, may he
be condemned will murder him with a sword. He must not have exposed himself to it” The Imam
(alaihi salam) said, “It is true but it was chosen that night wherein the measure and the
determination of Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High would come to pass.”
Amazing! So man knows his murder, place where he would be assasinated, time of assault, and he
went there by his own feet. What about verse of Allah? Taala said: No soul knows what it will earn
to-morrow, and no soul knows in what land it will die. They say: Imam knew that all.
Most secret thing in the world
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12 imams, appointed, then bada`, knew each one one after other, or were known in the time of
prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam), last one gone into concealment due to fear, or any
other reason. I don’t know what about you, but for me, it was always hard to believe in this fairy
tale. I guess that it was due to purity of my fitrah.
But shia books say that to understand imamate is not easy
It was reported by Muhammad ibn al-Hasan as-Saffar in “Basair ad-Darajat” (p 48) from Abu
Abdullah (alaihi salam), and also in “Sahifa Abrar” (2/200) by Mamiqani:
‫ان امرنا سر في سر وسر مستسر وسر ال يفيد اال سر وسر على سر وسر مقنع بسر‬
Verily, our command is a secret in a secret, and a concealed secret, and a secret that
is only known as a secret, and a secret upon a secret and a secret veiled by a secret
And at page 49 of the Basair, again from imam:
‫ان امرنا هو الحق وحق الحق وهو الظاهر وباطن الباطن وهو السر وسر السر وسر المستسر وسر مقنع بالسر‬
Verily, our command (amr) is the truth and the truth of the truth; and it is the
exoteric and the esoteric of the esoteric; and it is the secret, and the secret of the
secret, and the secret of the concealed place, and the secret veiled by the secret
Secret in the secret on the secret between most secrets things. It is so secret that last imam with
his command wasn’t seen around for ages
Discussion regarding poisoning of aimma
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If someone in our time would drink a glass of water which contains poison, what would we say? We
would say if he knew that there is a poison in it, he committed suicide.
Can I see here a sensible answer from shia on such question.
When we check article regarding 12 imams in wiki we could see that 9 imams from 12 (the last one
is alive as they say) were poisoned.
Let us check the top shia hadith book, where entire chapter entitled in this way:
َ‫ وانهَ ال يموتون اال باختيار منه‬،‫باب َن االئمة عليهَ السالم يعلمون متى يموتون‬
Chapter: Aimma alaihuma salam know how they would die, and they don’t die except by their own
will
Or next chapter:
َ‫باب َن االئمة عليهَ السالم يعلمون علَ ما كان وما يكون وانه ال يخفى عليهَ الشيء صلوات هللا عليه‬
Chapter: Aimma, alaihuma salam knew what happen and what would happen, and nothing hidden
from them.
Can anyone explain, how is that IF PERSON KNEW HOW HE IS GOING BE KILLED, IF HE KNEW THAT
HE WOULD BE POISONED, IF HE KNEW THAT THERE IS POISON (IN EATING OR DRINK), AND HE
CONSUMED THAT POISON, and he is not self-murderer?
Shias claim that aimma know unseen, what would happen, they know how they would die! And shia
believe that 9 of them were poisoned!!! WHAT IS THIS IF NOT ATTACK OF AHLALBAYT BY NAMING
THEM SELF-MURDERERS!?
Ali would enter heaven before prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi
wa sallam)
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Book: Ilal ush-Sharae, 1-st volume, chp – 137.
Author: Sheikh of rafidis in his time, ibn Babaveyh al-Qummi, as-Saduq.
Ali ibn Abi Talib (alaihi salam) said: “Prophet, sallalahu alaihi wa ali, said to me: “You are the first
one to enter to heaven”. I (Ali) said: “O messenger of Allah, I would enter there before you?” He
said: “Yes”.
This is superiority. As we can see Ali is superior in this to prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa
sallam) in accordance to this narration!
Shubbar and place of aimma
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In his book “Sharhul ziyaratul jamiatul Kabira” Abdullah Shubbar said:
‫هَ عليهَ السالم َفضل االنبياء والمرسلين ما عدا جدهَ خاتَ النبيين‬
They (alaihuma salam) better than prophets and messengers except their grandfather,
the seal of prophets.
Source: Aytollat Shubbar, “Sharhul ziyaratul jamiatul kabira” p 63.
And he said at the page 74:
‫فانهَ حجج هللا تعالى بل َعالهَ وهَ المتصفون بصفات هللا تعالى فكأنهَ صفاته بل هَ مظاهر َسمائه وصفاته‬
They are hujjas (proofs) of Allah Taala, nay most exalted ones, and they described by
characteristics (sifaats) of Allah, as if they are His attributes, nay they manifestations
of His names and Attributes.
Mamiqani: Many things that we do believe now…
January 9, 2011 at 10:51 pm | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations | Leave a comment
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Book: Tanqih al-maqal fi ilmul rijal (2/340)
Author: Allama Sheikh Abdullah al-Mamiqani.
He said that majority of things which now believed regarding ahlalbayt in past days would be
consider as quluw.
Conditions of appearance of Mahdi
January 9, 2011 at 9:12 pm | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations, Invented myths and legends,
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Book: Kitab al-Ghaybah p 438.
Author: Abu Jafar at-Toose.
From Hasan ibn Ali: “This matter that you are waiting for, wouldn’t happen until some of
you (shia) wouldn’t disown from others from you, and some of you would curse others from you,
and some of you would spit in the faces of others from you, and some of you would testify to
disbelief of others from you”
We have already seen some shias accusing others from their sect in kufr. I suggest to those shias
which would like to hasten appearance of their master – start making takfir of your brothers, spit in
their faces. And may be your master would reappear again.
Addition:
Similar hadith in book “Ghaybah” of Nomani p 213 from al-Husayn ibn Ali, p 214 from Abu Abdullah.
Another example of quluw
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Ibn Yusuf al-Hilli in his book “Kashf al-yaqin” (p 229):
`Abdullah ibn `Umar has reported: The Messenger of Allah was asked: In what tone did the
Almighty God speak to you on the night of ascension (Mi`raj)? The Holy Prophet said: He addressed
me in the tone of `Ali! At that time, I was inspired to ask: O Lord, are you speaking to me or it is
`Ali who is speaking to me? God said: O Ahmad! My truth is different from that of other things! I
can neither be compared with people nor am I described with similar things! I created you from my
light and `Ali from your light. Thereafter, I became aware of the secret of your heart, finding out
there was no one closer and more beloved to your heart than `Ali. Hence, I addressed you in the
tone of `Ali so that your heart will be put at rest in this assembly of friendship.
Elephant from clay
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Rafidi at-Tabari (don’t mix him with sunni Imam at-Tabari) in his book “Dalail al-Imamah” (p 220)
wrote:
141 / 5 – ‫ حدثنا مرة بن قبيصة بن عبد‬:‫ حدثنا شاذان بن عمر قال‬:‫ وحدثنا َحمد بن منصور الرمادي قال‬:‫قال َبو جعفر‬
‫ رَيت موالي الباقر (ع) وقد صنع فيال من طين فركبه وطار في الهواء حتى ذهب‬:‫ جابر بن يزيد الجعفي‬:‫ قال لي‬:‫الحميد قال‬
‫ َخبرني جابر عنك بكذا وكذا‬:‫فصنع مثله وركب إلى مكة عليه ورجع فلَ َصدق ذلك منه حتى رَيت الباقر (ع) فقلت له‬
‫وحملني معه إلى مكة وردني‬
Marat ibn Qubaisat ibn Abdulhamid said that: Jabir Bin Yazid Al-Jafee said to me: I saw that my
master Al-Baqir(alaihi salam) had made an elephant from clay, and he sat over it(rode it) and flew
in the sky to Makkah and came back to me”. So I (Marat) didn’t testify this from him (Jabir) until I
saw Al-Baqir (alaihi salam) and I said unto him: Jabir told me about you about such and such things.
And he did similar (elephant) and sat on it and took me with him to Makkah and returned me.
And it was also narrated by Bahrani in “Madinatul Majaiz” (see scans)
Wilayah from work by Bahrani
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Bahrani in his commentary “al-Burhan”, introduction p 24, said:
‫ وال ينفع اإلقرار بالنبوة مع جحد إمامة علي كما ال ينفع اإلقرار بالتوحيد من‬،‫إن تمام اإلسالم باعتقاد والية علي عليه السالم‬
‫جحد بالنبوة‬
“Completeness of Islam in belief in wilayah of Ali (alaihi salam), and acceptance of prophecy
wouldn’t benefit along with denial of imamah of Ali, as wouldn’t benefit acceptance of Tawhid
along with denial of prophecy”.
And at the same page he narrated from imam Ali:
‫من لَ يقر بواليتي لَ ينفعه اإلقرار بنبوة محمد‬
Whoever wouldn’t accept my wilayah, he wouldn’t benefit from acceptance of prophecy of
Muhammad.
Who was more knowledgeable?
October 10, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations | Leave a comment
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In accordance to shia books, there was a time, when Ali (r.a) was more knowledgeable than
prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam).
Ayatolla Jafar as-Subhani in his book “The message” (ch. The first revelation) wrote:
“Just like the dates of birth and death of the Holy Prophet the date of his appointment to the
prophetic mission is also not known definitely from the historical point of view; the Shi’ah scholars
are almost unanimous that he was appointed to the prophetic mission on the 27th of Rajab and his
prophethood commenced from the same day. However the Sunni scholars usually claim that he was
appointed to this mission during the holy month of Ramadan.
As Shi’ahs claim to be the followers of the progeny of the Prophet and consider their reports to be
true and final in the light of ‘Hadith Thaqalayn’ they have accepted the report of the progeny of
the Prophet’s Household about the date of this appointment to the prophetic mission to be correct.
The descendants of the Prophet say: “The chief of the family was appointed to the prophetic
mission on the 27th of Rajab”. In view of this Shi’ahs do not entertain any doubt about the
correctness of this date”. (end of quote).
Other shia history book, “A Glance at the Life of the Holy Prophet of Islam” says:
“By the time the Holy Prophet of Islam reached the age of 40, he was ready for his divine mission.”
One day suddenly, while he sat in a cave at Mount Hira, Gabriel, the Angel of Revelation, appeared
to him and said, ‘Recite!’ He said in surprise, ‘What shall I recite?’ Again the divine voice very
clearly and openly called out, ‘Recite, O Muhammad!’
And a third time Gabriel repeated, ‘Recite in the Name of Your Lord Who created. He created the
human being from a clot. Recite and your Lord is Most Honourable, Who taught (to write) with the
pen, taught the human being what he knew not’ (95:1-5)”. (ch. The prophet at the age of forty).
From these quotes it’s clear for us that before this incident, Muhammad (sallalahu alaihi wa ala
alihi wa sallam) didn’t know that he was a prophet, and for sure Quran still wasn’t revealed upon
him.
Muhammad al-Kulayni narrated in al-Kafi (1/453), from imam, which said:
“Amir al-Mu’minin Ali (alaihi salam) was born thirty years after the birth of the Holy Prophet
(sallalahu alaihi wa ali)”.
So in accordance to shia sources, when prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) received his
first revelation, Ali was 10 years old.
Kulayni in the very same book (1/386) gave some details, how imam is coming to this earth. He
quoted imam Abu Abdullah, which said:
:‫إن نطفة االمام مما َخبرتك وإذا سكنت النطفة في الرحَ َربعة َشهر وانشئ فيها الروح بعث هللا تبارك وتعالى ملكا يقال له‬
‫حيوان فكتب على عضده االيمن ” وتمت كلمة ربك صدقا وعدال ال مبدل لكلماته وهو السميع العليَ ” وإذا وقع من بطن امه وقع‬
‫واضعا يديه على االرض رافعا رَسه إلى السماء فأما وضعه يديه على االرض فإنه يقبض كل علَ هل َنزله من السماء إلى‬
‫االرض وَما رفعه رَسه إلى السماء فان مناديا ينادي به من بطنان العرش من قبل رب العزة من االفق االعلى باسمه واسَ َبيه‬
‫ فلعظيَ ما خلقتك َنت صفوتي من خلقي وموضع سري وعيبة علمي وَميني على وحيي‬،‫ يا فالن بن فالن اثبت تثبت‬:‫يقول‬
‫ ثَ وعزتي وجاللي الصلين من عاداك‬،‫ لك ولمن توالك َوجبت رحمتي ومنحت جناني وَحللت جواري‬،‫وخليفتي في َرضي‬
‫َشد عذابي وإن وسعت عليه في دنياي من سعة رَقي فإذا انقضى الصوت – صوت المنادي – َجابه هو واضعا يديه رافعا‬
َ‫“ رَسه إلى السماء يقول ” شهد هللا َنه ال إله إال هو والمالئكة واولوا العلَ قائما بالقسط ال إله إال هو العزيز الحكي‬
The seed of the Imam is from what I just explained to you. When the seed is accommodated in the
womb for four months and the spirit is established therein Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, then
send an angel. This angel is called Haywan (animal or living). He then writes on his right shoulder “.
. .in all truth and justice, your Lord’s Word has been completed. No one can change His Words. He
is All-hearing and All-knowing.”. (6:115) When he comes out of his mothers womb he places his
hands on the floor and raises his head to the sky. Placing his hands on earth is an indication of his
taking possession of all the knowledge of Allah that is sent from the heavens to earth. Raising his
head to the sky is that because a caller from inside the Throne calls him from the high horizon with
his name and the name of his father. It is for (on behalf of) the Lord, the Most Majestic, the Most
gracious, saying, “O so and so, son of so and so. Be firm so that you would be established. For the
great purpose that I have created you, you are my chosen one in my creatures. You are the keeper
of My secrets, the container of My knowledge, the trustee of My inspiration and My deputy and
representative on earth. I have made it necessary for My blessings and mercy to reach you and
those who would love you (and acknowledge your Divine Authority). I have gifted My paradise and
given a place near Myself to you and to them. Also, by My Majesty and Grace, I will make your
enemies to feel the heat of My punishment even though I may have given them expanded prosperity
in My world such as prosperity in their livelihood. When the call of caller ends he responds to it by
placing his hands on the ground and raising his head to the sky and says the following. “God
Himself testifies that He is the only Lord. The angels and the men of knowledge and justice
testify that God is the only Lord, the Majestic, and All-wise.” (3:18) (end of quote)
So as I wrote, in accordance to shia source, Ali was born 30 years after prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa
ala alihi wa sallam), and 10 years before prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam) received
his prophecy. As we can see in this narration, when he was born he already recited verse from
Quran, which was not yet revealed upon prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam).
In the same book, Kulayni narrated (1/387):
َ‫ ” وتمت كلمة ربك صدقا وعدال ال مبدل لكلماته وهو السميع العلي‬:‫“ فإذا ولد بعث ذلك الملك فيكتب بين عينيه‬
When he (imam) is born that angel comes and writes between his eyes, “. . .in all truth and justice,
your Lord’s Word has been completed. No one can change His Words. He is All-hearing and Allknowing.” (6:115) (end of quote).
And he also narrated from imam (1/388):
‫ال تتكلموا في االمام فإن االمام يسمع الكالم وهو في بطن امه فاذا وضعته كتب الملك بين عينيه ” وتمت كلمة ربك صدقا وعدال‬
َ‫“ ال مبدل لكلماته وهو السميع العلي‬
“Do not speak about the Imam. The Imam (a.s.) hears the words while he still is in the womb of his
mother. When she would give birth the angel write between his eyes, “. . .in all truth and justice,
your Lord’s Word has been completed. No one can change His Words. He is All-hearing and Allknowing.”. (6:115)
So obviously, even Fatima bint Asad (r.a), mother of Ali, was more knowledgeable than prophet
(sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam). We know that shias believe Ali was born in Kaaba. Shia
author Mufti Jafar Husayn in his book “Sirat amir al-muminin” (ch. The fecicitous birth, p 116)
wrote:
“Fatimah bint Asad emerged from the Ka`bah three days after the birth of `Ali (a.s) with the baby
in her arms”. (end of quote).
For sure during these days she would read words, written between eyes of her new born child, and
as we can understand she knew and recite this mentioned verse of Quran, before it was revealed
upon prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam).
As a result we can say that these books teaches people, that verses of Quran were first revealed
upon Ali and his mother.
Clear kufr from Ali al-Milani
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Salam alaikum, this shia known ayatolla said in his book “al-Muhadaratu fil itiqadati” (p 49):
“Ali was partner (sharik) with messenger of Allah in his prophecy”.
Hadith vs predetermined list of 12 names
July 27, 2010 at 1:35 am | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations, Invented myths and legends | 1
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Prepared by brother Abu Abdullah, edited and arranged by us:
‫السالم عليكَ ورحمة هللا وبركاته‬
If the Prophet (َ‫ )صلى هللا تعالى عليه واله وسل‬had really announced the names of the Twelve A’immah, why
would there be such perplexity and confusion among the Shi’ite heretical sects almost after the
death of each Imam? Beside this, we see in many ahâdîth in Twelver Shi’ite books that the evidence
of Imamate is always (as far as I know) based on different signs (miracles, eldest, knowledge of
unseen etc.) of the Imam instead of the hadîth which is supposedly said by the Prophet ( ‫صلى هللا تعالى‬
َ‫)عليه واله وسل‬. What is the need of signs if there is authentic narration from the Prophet ( ‫صلى هللا تعالى‬
َ‫ )عليه واله وسل‬announcing the 12 names? Surely, the A’immah would save their time just by narrating
the hadîth of the Prophet (َ‫ )صلى هللا تعالى عليه واله وسل‬proving their Imamate, isn’t? Here are some
ahâdîth from their books where the Imams prove their Imamate by anything except by pointing out
the narration from the Prophet (َ‫ )صلى هللا تعالى عليه واله وسل‬who supposedly announced the names of the
12 A’immah.
Al-Kafi, vol. 1, page 307, and authenticated by Majlisi in “Mir’âh al-’Uqûl”, vol. 3, page 328:
7 – ‫ عن َبي جعفر (عليه‬،‫ عن جابر بن يزيد الجعفي‬،َ‫ عن هشام بن سال‬،‫ عن ابن محبوب‬،‫ عن َحمد بن محمد‬،‫محمد بن يحيى‬
‫ هذا وهللا قائَ آل محمد (صلى هللا‬:‫ سئل عن القائَ (عليه السالم) فضرب بيده على َبي عبدهللا (عليه السالم) فقال‬:‫السالم) قال‬
،‫ فقال صدق جابر‬،‫ فلما قبض َبوجعفر (عليه السالم) دخلت على َبي عبدهللا (عليه السالم) فأخبرته بذلك‬:‫ قال عنبسة‬،)‫عليه وآله‬
‫ لعلكَ ترون َن ليس كل إمام هو القائَ بعد االمام الذي كان قبله‬:‫ثَ قال‬.
Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn Mahbub from
Hisham ibn Salim from Jabur ibn Yazid al-Ju‘fiy who has said the following. “A
question was asked (from abu Ja‘far (alaihi salam) about al-Qa’im (the twelfth Imam
(alaihi salam). He (abu Ja‘far) tapped (at the shoulder of) abu ‘Abdallah (alaihi salam)
and said, “This, by Allah, is the Qa’im (one who will establish the kingdom of Allah) of
the family of Muhammad (s.a.).” ‘Anbasa has said, “when abu Ja‘far passed away,
went to see abu ‘Abdallah (alaihi salam) and told him of what I had heard (from
Jabir). The Imam (alaihi salam) said, “Jabir has spoken the truth.” He then said, “You
perhaps think that the every succeeding Imam after a preceding Imam is not al-Qa’im
(also meaning the one who obeys and serves Allah).
Now, where the Imam points to a narration from the Prophet (َ‫ )صلى هللا تعالى عليه واله وسل‬where he
supposedly announced already the list of the 12 A’immah?
Let us see other hadith:
Kulayni narrated in his “Kafi” (1/285-286), and authenticated by Majlisi in “Mir’âh al-’Uqûl”, vol. 3,
page 208:
1 – :‫ عن َبى عبدهللا (عليه السالم) قال‬،‫ عن الحسين بن ثوير بن َبي فاختة‬،‫ عن يونس‬،‫ عن محمد بن عيسى‬،َ‫علي بن إبراهي‬
‫ ” واولو االرحام‬:‫ إنما جرت من علي بن الحسين كما قال هللا تبارك وتعالى‬،‫ال تعود االمامة في َخوين بعد الحسن والحسين َبدا‬
َ‫بعضه‬
‫َولى ببعض في كتاب هللا ” فال تكون بعد علي بن الحسين (عليه السالم) إال في االعقاب وَعقاب االعقاب‬.
Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from Muhammad ibn ‘Isa from Yunus from al-Husayn
ibn Thuwayr ibn abu Fakhita from abu‘Abdallah (a.s.) who has said the following.
“Imamat (Leadership with Divine Authority) will never go to two brothers after alHassan and al-Husayn (a.s.). It has continued from Ali ibn al-Husayn (a.s.) as Allah,
the Most Holy, the Most High has said, “The relatives are closer to each other,
according to the Book of God, . . .” (33:6) After Imam Ali ibn al-Husayn (a.s.) will
only be found in the descendents one after the other.”
Here Abu Abdillah says that the Imamate will never again be in two brothers after al-Hasan and alHusain. So after ‘Aliy bin Husain the Imamate will follow only one after the another (in
stubs). Strange isn’t? Why such a rule if there is already the pre-determined list of the Prophet
(َ‫ )صلى هللا تعالى عليه واله وسل‬announcing the names of all the Twelve Caliphs?
Another hadith again from “Kafi” (1/284), which authenticated by Majlisi in “Mir’âh al-’Uqûl”, vol.
3, page 204:
1 – َ‫ إذا مات االمام ب‬:)‫ قلت البي الحسن الرضا (عليه السالم‬:‫ عن ابن َبي نصر قال‬،‫ عن َحمد بن محمد‬،‫محمد بن يحيى‬
‫ إلى من‬:‫ ويقدم الركب فيقول‬،‫يعرف الذي بعده؟ فقال لالمام عالمات منها َن يكون َكبر ولد َبيه ويكون فيه الفضل والوصية‬
‫َوصى فالن؟‬
‫ تكون االمامة مع السالح حيثما كان‬،‫ والسالح فينا بمنزلة التابوت في بني إسرائيل‬،‫ إلى فالن‬:‫فيقال‬.
Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn abu Nasr who has said
that he asked abu al-Hassan al-Rida (alaihi salam) the following. “When the Imam dies through
what means one would know the succeeding Imam (alaihi salam)?” He said, “For the Imam
there are certain signs. Of such sign one is that he must be the eldest son of his father. The will
and excellence must be found in him and when people come to ask who is appointed the
executor of the will in answer it can be said that so and so is appointed the executor of the
will. The Armament with us is like the Ark in the Israelites. Imamat (leadership with Divine
authority) is always with the Armament wherever it may go.”
Here basically Ibn Abi Nasr (companion of couple of Imams) asks Abi’l Hasan al-Ridha how the next
Imam is known after the death of the previous Imam. Then the Imam mentions some signs like
being the eldest son of his father, having virtue and will (wasiyyah). He says that the sword with us
is like the tâbut of Bani Isra’il, meaning; the Imamate is with the sword with whoever it is found.
Amazing! Imam didn’t say that Imam can be known very easily, because he has already named by
prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam)! But why?! Shias always arguing that there is clear
cut proof for imamate of specific 12 men. If there is such, wouldn’t that be easy for Imam, to say
to his follower their names?
Note: “being the eldest son of his father” (‫ )َن يكون َكبر ولد َبيه‬is a sign of Imâmate and we all know
that Ismâ’il bin Ja’far was older than Musa bin Ja’far. Yet they have managed to invent this
concept of “Bada’” as a solution to the problem.
Let us see another hadith from “Kafi”, which was authenticated by Majlisi and Bahbude:
ُ ‫وب ب ِْن‬
‫علَى‬
ٍ ‫شعَ ْي‬
ِ َّ ‫ع ْب ِد‬
َ َََ‫اَّل ( عليه السالم ) ِإذَا َحد‬
َ ‫ب قَا َل قُ ْلتُ ِألَبِي‬
َ َ‫ص ْف َوان‬
َ ‫ُم َح َّمد ُ بْنُ يَحْ يَى‬
َ ُ‫ع ْن يَ ْعق‬
َ ‫ع ْن ُم َح َّم ِد ب ِْن ْال ُح َسي ِْن َع ْن‬
ٌ
َ
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َ
ٌ َ‫اإل َم ِام َحد‬
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َْ ‫ِّين َو ِليُ ْنذ ُِروا قَ ْو َم ُه‬
‫د‬
‫ال‬
‫ِي‬
‫ف‬
‫وا‬
‫ه‬
‫ق‬
‫ف‬
‫ت‬
‫ي‬
‫ل‬
‫ة‬
‫ف‬
‫ئ‬
‫طا‬
َ
‫ه‬
‫ن‬
‫ة‬
‫ق‬
‫ِر‬
‫ف‬
‫ل‬
‫ك‬
‫ن‬
‫َر‬
‫ف‬
َ
‫ن‬
‫ال‬
‫و‬
‫ل‬
‫ف‬
‫ل‬
‫ج‬
‫و‬
‫ز‬
‫ع‬
‫اَّل‬
‫ل‬
‫و‬
‫ق‬
‫ي‬
َ
‫ل‬
‫ا‬
‫ق‬
‫اس‬
‫ن‬
‫ال‬
‫ع‬
َ
‫ن‬
‫ص‬
ِ
ٍ
َ‫ْن‬
ِ
ِ
ِ‫م‬
ِ‫م‬
َ
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ْ
ُ
ُ َ
ُ َ‫ْف ي‬
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َ َ َ ِ
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َ ‫َ َكي‬
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َْ ‫ص َحابُ ُه‬
ُ ‫ب َو َهؤُالءِ الذِينَ يَنت َظِ ُرونَ ُه َْ فِي‬
ُ ‫إِذا َر َجعُوا إِل ْي ِه َْ لعَل ُه َْ يَحْ ذ ُرونَ قا َل ه ُْمفِي‬
ْ َ َْ ‫عذ ٍر َحتى يَ ْر ِج َع إِل ْي ِه‬
ِ ‫عذ ٍر َما دَا ُموا فِي الطل‬
Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from from Muhammad ibnlh from Safwan from ya‘qub ibn
Shu‘ayb who has said the following. “I asked abu ‘Abdallah (alaihi salam), ‘If something would
happen to the Imam what should then the people do?” The Imam (alaihi salam) said, “Where
are the words of Allah, the Most Majestic, the Most gracious, ‘Not all believers have to become
specialists in religious learning. Why do not some people from each group of believers seek to
become specialists in religious learning and, after completing their studies, guide their group so
that they will have fear of God.’” (9:122) The Imam (alaihi salam) said, “They will good reason
to be excused as long as they are searching also those who wait for them until they complete
their religious education and return back to them”.
This proves that the majority of the Twelver Shi`ites were unaware of a pre-determined list with
the names of the Twelve Caliphs. Even the so-called close companions were unaware of it like
Zurârah (!) who didn’t know the new Imam after Imâm Ja’far al-Sâdiq.
And another narration from “Kafi” (1/381), authenticated by Bahbude and Majlisi in ”Mir’âh al’Uqûl” vol. 4, page 240:
َ‫اإل َم ِام َمت َى يَ ْعلَ َُ ََنَّهُ ِإ َما ٌم حِ ين‬
ِّ ِ ‫ص ْف َوانَ قَا َل قُ ْلتُ ل‬
َ ‫ضا ( عليه السالم ) َ َ ْخ ِب ْرنِي‬
َ ‫ِلر‬
َ ‫ُم َح َّمد ُ بْنُ يَحْ يَى‬
َ ‫ع ْن ُم َح َّم ِد ب ِْن ْال ُح َسي ِْن َع ْن‬
ِ ْ ‫ع ِن‬
ْ
ْ
َِِّ ‫صاحِ بُهُ قُ ْلتُ ِبأ‬
َ
َ
َ
ُ
َ
َ
ْ
ْ
َ
ُ
‫ي‬
‫ي‬
‫ض‬
‫م‬
‫ي‬
‫ل‬
‫ذ‬
َ
‫ل‬
‫ع‬
‫ي‬
‫ل‬
‫ا‬
‫ق‬
‫َا‬
‫ن‬
‫ه‬
‫َا‬
‫ه‬
‫ن‬
َ
‫و‬
‫د‬
‫ا‬
‫د‬
‫غ‬
‫ب‬
‫ب‬
‫ض‬
‫ب‬
‫ق‬
‫ن‬
‫س‬
‫ح‬
‫ال‬
‫ي‬
‫ب‬
َ
‫ل‬
‫ث‬
‫ي‬
‫ض‬
‫م‬
‫ي‬
‫و‬
َ
‫ى‬
‫ض‬
‫م‬
َ‫َ َ ِ ِ َ ِ َ َ َ َ ت‬
ِ ْ َ َ‫َ َ ْ ُ ِكَ حِ ين‬
َ
َ ‫يَ ْبلُغُهُ َ َ َّن‬
ِ َ ِ‫صاحِ بَهُ قَ ْد َ َ ْ حِ ينَ َ ْ ِ م‬
ْ
َّ ُ‫ ش َْيءٍ قَا َل يُل ِه ُمه‬.
ُ ‫اَّل‬
Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from al-Husayn from Safwan who has said the following. “I
requested abu al-Hassan al-Rida (alaihi salam), ‘Enlighten me when an Imam comes to know
that he is the Imam (alaihi salam)? Does it take place when the preceding Imam has already
passes away or when he is about to leave this world? For example abu al-Hassan (alaihi salam)
passed away in Baghdad and you were here (in the city of Madina)?” The Imam (alaihi salam)
said, “He comes to know it at the time his companion (the preceding Imam) is about to leave
this world.” I then asked, “By what means does he come to know it?” He said, “He comes to
know it through inspiration from Allah.”
Allahu Akbar! What a great proof!!! Even imam didn’t know that he is going to be next one in the
chain of 12, during the lifetime of previous imam, and he knew that only when previous one was
about to die! So, obviously imam Hussain (alaihi salam) didn’t know that he’s going to be next
imam, unless his brother Hasan (alaihi salam) was alive, and he knew that when Hasan (alaihi
salam) was about to die! And after such proof someone can claim that 12 aimma was foretold by
prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam)!!! Ya shiatul alam! Open your eyes, and read your
own books!
And another hadith from “Kafi” (1/368), authenticated by Majlisi (4/170):
‫س ِن ب ِْن‬
َ
َ ‫سى جَمِ يعا ً ع َِن ْال َح‬
َ ‫س ْه ِل ب ِْن ِزيَا ٍد َو ُم َح َّمدُ ب ُْن يَحْ يَى ع َْن أَحْ َمدَ ب ِْن ُم َح َّم ِد ب ِْن عِي‬
َ ‫س ِن ع َْن‬
َ ‫عل ُِّي ب ُْن ُم َح َّم ٍد َو ُم َح َّمدُ ب ُْن ْال َح‬
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ُ ‫ب ع َْن أ َ ِبي حَمْ َزةَ الث ُّ َما ِل ِّي ِ قَا َل سَمِ ع‬
ُ
ْ‫ح‬
َ
َ
َ
َّ
َ‫َان‬
َ‫ك‬
‫ْت أَبَا َج ْعفَ ٍر‬
‫ُو‬
‫ب‬
‫م‬
(
‫السالم‬
‫عليه‬
)
‫ر‬
‫اْل‬
‫ا‬
‫ذ‬
‫ه‬
‫ق‬
‫و‬
‫ك‬
‫د‬
‫ق‬
‫ى‬
‫ل‬
‫ا‬
‫ع‬
‫ت‬
‫و‬
‫ار‬
‫ب‬
‫ت‬
‫اَّلل‬
‫ن‬
‫إ‬
‫ت‬
‫ب‬
‫ا‬
‫ث‬
‫ا‬
‫ي‬
ْ‫م‬
َ‫ت‬
َ َ َ َ َ
ٍ
َ
َ
ِ ِ َ ‫يَقُو ُل‬
َ
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ْ
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َ َّ‫شتَد‬
ْ ‫علَ ْي ِه ا‬
ُ ‫صلَ َو‬
َ ‫غ‬
َّ ‫فِي ال‬
ْ ْ ‫ف فََر َرإُ إِلَى أرْ بَ ِعينَ َو مِ اَ َ ٍٍ ف َحدَّثََا ُك‬
َ ‫اَّلل تَعَالَى‬
َ ‫اَّلل‬
َ ‫سي ُْن‬
ِ ْ‫علَى أ ْه ِل اْلر‬
َ ‫س ْب ِعينَ فلَمَّا أ ْن قتِ َل ال ُح‬
ِ َّ ُ‫ضب‬
ِ َّ ‫ات‬
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ْ‫ج‬
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‫ب قَا َل أَبُو‬
‫َا‬
‫ت‬
‫ك‬
‫ال‬
‫م‬
‫أ‬
‫إ‬
ُ
‫د‬
َ
‫ع‬
‫و‬
‫ت‬
‫ب‬
‫ُث‬
‫ي‬
‫و‬
‫ء‬
‫َا‬
‫ش‬
‫ي‬
‫ا‬
‫م‬
‫اَّلل‬
‫ُو‬
‫ح‬
‫ي‬
‫و‬
‫ا‬
‫ن‬
‫د‬
َ
‫ع‬
‫ا‬
‫ت‬
‫ق‬
‫و‬
‫ل‬
‫ذ‬
‫د‬
‫ع‬
‫ب‬
‫ه‬
‫ل‬
‫اَّلل‬
‫ل‬
‫ع‬
‫ي‬
ْ ‫ل‬
‫و‬
‫ر‬
‫ت‬
‫س‬
‫ال‬
‫ع‬
‫ا‬
َ
‫ق‬
ْ ‫ت‬
‫َف‬
‫ش‬
‫ك‬
‫ف‬
‫يث‬
‫د‬
‫ح‬
‫ال‬
ْ ُ ُ ‫فَََذَ ْعت‬
َ
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ْ‫م‬
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ُ ْ‫ فَقَا َل قَ ْد كَانَ َكذَ ِلكَ ) عليه السالم (حَمْ َزةَ فَ َحدَّث‬.
َِّ ‫ع ْب ِد‬
‫اَّلل‬
َ ‫ت ِبذَ ِلكَ أَبَا‬
Ali ibn Muhammad and Muhammad ibn al-Hassan have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad and
Muhammad ibn Yahya from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Isa all from al-Hassan ibn Mahbub from
abu Hamza al-Thumali who has said the following. “I heard abu Ja’far (alaihi salam) say, “O
Thabit, Allah, the Most Holy, the Most High, had set up a time limit for it in the year seventy
but when al-Husayn (alaihi salam) was murdered Allah’s anger became more intense on the
people on earth. He delayed it until one hundred forty. When then spoke to you about it and
you publicized this hadith and disclosed the secret. Allah thereafter has not set up a time limit
for it available with us. Allah deletes whatever He wants and establishes whatever He wants,
with Him is the original book. Abu Hamza has said, “I narrated the above Hadith to abu
‘Abdallah (alaihi salam) and he said, “It was as you said.”
How would this be possible when supposedly the Prophet (َ‫ )صلى هللا تعالى عليه واله وسل‬already mentioned
the order of the Twelve A’immah by name? This hadîth is from every angle munkar and fabrication,
but isn’t that already the case with the Twelver Imamate? Twelver Shi`a scholar Majlisi explains
this away as Bada’ but some Shi`a Twelver scholars argued that it’s a mursal and majhûl hadîth
because al-Hasan bin Mahbûb who would be only 1 year to narrate this from Abu Hamza al-Thamâlî.
Anyway their whole rijâl system is subject to such problems when one goes deeper.
Another hadith from “Kafi” (1/371) which was authenticated by Bahbude and Majlisi (4/184):
‫اَّل‬
ْ ‫اع ِْر‬
ِ َّ ‫ع ْب ِد‬
َ ‫ارة َ قَا َل قَا َل ََبُو‬
َ ‫يز‬
َ ‫ع ْن َ َ ِبي ِه‬
َ َ‫ِي‬
َ ( ‫ف ِإ َما َمكَ فَإِنَّكَ ِإذَا ) عليه السالم‬
ٍ ‫سى َع ْن َح ِر‬
َ ‫ع ْن َح َّما ِد ب ِْن عِي‬
َ ‫ع ْن َُ َر‬
ُّ ‫ع ِل‬
َ ‫ي بْنُ ِإب َْراه‬
َ
َ
َ
ْ
ْ
َ
َ
‫ع َرفتَ ل َْ يَض َُّركَ تَقَد ََّم َهذا األ ْم ُر َ ْو تَأ َّخ َر‬
َ
Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from Hammad ibn ‘Isa from Hariz from Zurara who
has said the following. “Abu ‘Abdallah (alaihi salam) has said, ‘Learn who your Imam is. When
you learn who he is then it will have no affect on you whether this matter (the rise of al-Mahdi
with Divine Authority) will take place earlier or later.”
This is Zurârah, the closest companions of the A’immah of Ahl al-Bayt yet he is commanded to
“know his Imam” instead of receiving a pre-determined list with all the names of the Twelve Caliph
which is the reason he didn’t know the next Imâm “Musa bin Ja’far”. Subhân Allâh.
For these multiple reasons, grand Twelver Shi’ite scholar al-Khû’i, confessed in his book Sîrat alNajat 2/452:
‫ الروايات المتواترة الواصلة إلينا من طريق العامة والخاصة قد حددت األئمة عليهَ السالم باثني عشر من ناحية‬:‫يقول الخوئي‬
،‫ حتى ال يمكن فرض الشك في اإلمام الالحق بعد رحلة اإلمام السابق‬،‫العدد ولَ تحددهَ بأسمائهَ عليهَ السالم واحدا ً بعد واحد‬
،َ‫بل قد تقتضي المصلحة في ذلك الزمان اختفاءه والتستر عليه لدى الناس؛ بل لدى َصحابهَ عليهَ السالم إال َصحاب السر له‬
َ‫وقد اتفقت هذه القضية في غير هذا المورد وهللا العال‬
Al khû’i says: “The authentic mutâwatir narrations which reach us by means of the Khassah
(Twelver Shi’ites) and the ‘Âmmah ( Mainstream Muslims) only mention the number 12 but
never specified them by their names peace be upon them one by one...”
I think this is enough. I mentioned from each sub-chapter (bâb) one narration which is sahîh
according to Majlisi but there are also other sahîh narrations but most of them are weak or
unknown. When one ponders good upon the mentioned points it becomes crystal clear and explains
the differences and sub-divisions of this heretical Shi’ite sect throughout history.
And Allâh alone gives Success and He knows best.
Ruling upon Alawe sect from Khamenei
July 26, 2010 at 8:26 pm | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations, What is a shirk for shias? | 1
Comment
2 Votes
Salam alaikum.
In his “Ajwibatul istiftaat” (Q #325):
Q : There is a sect called ‘Aliyyullāhī which says that Ali (a.) is not a god, although he is not less
than a god either. What is the rule applicable to them?
A: If they do not ascribe a partner to Allah, the One, the Munificent and the Exalted, the rule
applicable to them is not that of polytheists.
Allahu Akbar! So if someone would say that Ali isn’t less than God, but wouldn’t say that he is
partner of Allah, he’s not mushrik in his view!
Fatawas from ayatollat Shahrode
July 24, 2010 at 7:12 am | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations, Shia vs Companions, Various
fatwas of shia scholars | Leave a comment
‫‪2 Votes‬‬
‫‪Prepared by Tripoly sunni:‬‬
‫!‪Ahlalbayt better than Quran‬‬
‫‪In the Special Section reserved to Scholars of the Top Shia Arabic forum “YaHossein” We See a‬‬
‫‪Fatwa by Ayatullah Sayyed Hussein al Shahroudi:‬‬
‫لعضو السائل ‪ :‬سلطان الواعظين‬
‫‪ :‬السؤال‬
‫َيهما َعلى منزلة القرآن الكريَ َم َهل البيت عليهَ َفضل الصالة وََكى السالم؟ وشكرا‬
‫‪ :‬الجواب‬
‫ال ريب َن َهل البيت عليهَ السالم يضحِّون بأنفسهَ في سبيل القرآن الكريَ‪ ،‬لكنِّهَ َفضل ان صح قياس َحدهما باآلخر‪ ،‬ألنهَ القرآن الناطق‪،‬‬
‫‪.‬ولوالهَ لَ يخلق هللا تعالى خلقا ً من مخلوقات هذا العالَ‪ ،‬والقرآن مخلوق هل تعالى ألنه كالم هللا تعالى‬
Questioner: Sultan al Wa’ezeen
Question: Which is greater in rank, the Holy Quran or the household(AhlulBayt) of the Prophet
PBUH? thanks.
Answer: No Doubt AhlulBayt sacrifice themselves for the sake of the Quran, but if we could do qiyas
then they Would Be Better as they are a “Speaking Quran” and if it weren’t for them Allah
wouldn’t create any creature of this world, and the Quran as we know is a creature of Allah as it is
the speech of Allah.
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Questions in the grave!
‫ عاشق الحسين‬: ‫العضو السائل‬
‫ السؤال‬:
‫السالم عليكَ ورحمة هللا وبركاته‬
‫ وجزاكَ هللا خيرا لما تبذلون من جهد لإلجابة على َسئلتنا‬، ‫بداية نرحب بسماحة آية هللا السيد حسين الشاهرودي‬.
‫وثانيا نشكر إدارة الموقع الكريمة والمشرفين الكرام على هذه اإلستضافة‬.
‫وثالثا سؤالي عن منكر ونكير وَسئلة القبر واألئمة عليهَ السالم فقد وجه لي هذا السؤال‬
‫ يأتي منكر ونكير ويسأل اإلنسان األسئلة المعروفة (من ربك؟ وما دينك؟ ومن نبيك؟‬،‫ وينزل إل ى القبر‬،‫ من المعروف انه عندما يتوفى اإلنسان‬: ‫س‬
‫ ومحمد (ص) نبيي و‬،‫ واإلسالم ديني‬،‫) والتي جوابها يكون شهادة َهل اإليمان (هللا ربي‬.……‫)……و‬.
‫ يأتيه منكر ونكير ويسأالنه عن هذه الشهادة؟ وان كانا يسأالنه فهل يقول مثال انه‬،‫ وينزل إلى قبره‬، ‫فهل عندما يتوفى اإلمام المعصوم عليه السالم‬
‫اإلمام المفروض الطاعة؟‬
‫وجزاكَ هللا خيرا ً والسالم عليكَ ورحمة هللا وبركاته‬
‫ الجواب‬:
َ‫ بل ملك الموت يستأذن في الدخول عليه‬،َ‫ وهو الذي يسأل المالئكة ويحت ِّج عليه‬،ً‫االمام المعصوم عليه السالم هو امام وحجة على المالئكة َيضا‬
‫ بل ورد في حق المؤمن في بعض الحاالت َنه ال يُسأَل في القبر لظهور حاله ووضوح ايمانه‬،َ‫وقبض َرواحه‬.
‫ اني آمنت بربكَ فاسمعون) اذا‬,‫ وصلى هللا على محمد وآل محمد‬،‫فقد ورد ان من عطس وقال بعد وضع اصبعه على انفه (الحمد هل رب العالمين‬
‫ ال حاجة الى السؤال من هذا الميت فانه َخبر‬: ‫مات وَُدخِ َل الق بر وجاءه الملكان يعطس فيقول كعادته {اني آمنت بربكَ فاسمعون} فيقول الملكان‬
‫بمعتقده‬.
ِّ ِ ‫بل يستفاد من بعض الروايات َن األئمة عليهَ السالم يأتون الى المؤمن في قبره ويلقنونه العقائد الصحيحة ويب‬
‫ بل انما يُسأَل الميِّت‬،‫شرونه بالجنة‬
‫في القبر ليُعرف على يعتقد بامامة االئمة االثني عشر عليهَ السالم ام ال ؟‬
‫فال معنى لسؤال نفس اإلمام عليه السالم عن ذلك‬.
Questioner: Ashiq al hussein.
Question: (…) It is known that when a man dies and goes into the grave the two angels Munkar wa
Nakeer will come and ask him who is your Lord? What is your religion? Who is your prophet? ………
And the answer of the people of belief is (Allah is my lord, Islam is my religion, Muhammad PBUH is
my Nabi………)
So when the infallible Imam dies PBUH and goes to his grave will Munkar wa Nakeer come and ask
him about the Shahadah? and will he reply by for example I am the Imam who must be obeyed?
Answer: The infallible IMAM PBUH is an Imam and Hujjah on the angels as well, and he will be the
one to ask the Angels and use hujjah on them, in fact the angel of death will take their permission
before he extracts their souls, It was even mentioned regarding the believers in some cases will not
even be questioned in the grave because of his clear Iman and apparent faith.
It was mentioned that he who sneezes and then says after he places his finger on his nose (Al
Hamdu Lillah rab al Alameen, Sala Allahu ala Muhammad wa Alu muhammad, I have believed in
your Lord so hear me) So when he dies and enters the grave and sneezes and he says as usual (I
have believed in your lord so hear me) Then the two angels say: No need to question this dead for
he has confessed his beliefs.
We even benefit from some of the narrations that the Imams PBUT come to the believer in his
grave and teach him the proper aqeedah and give him glad tidings of heaven, in fact the dead are
questioned in order to verify if they believe the twelve Imams or not, so there is no reason to
question the imam himself about it.
These guys left no door of Ghulu which they didn’t open, astaghfirullah the Imams are Gods
literally.
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Accusations of Aisha.
‫ حسن الروح‬: ‫العضو السائل‬
‫ السؤال‬:
‫ما حكَ الزواج من ناصبيه؟؟؟‬
‫وكيف النبي محمد يتزوج من ناصبية والتي هي عائشه؟؟؟‬
‫وكيف اإلمام الحسن المجتبى يتزوج من ناصبية والتي هي جعيدة بنت األشعث ؟؟؟‬
‫ الجواب‬:
‫ باطل‬.1‫ج‬
‫ ولعل كفر الناصبي ونجاسته وبطالن الزواج منه كان من األحكام المتأخرة التي َُمر النبي (ص) بتبليغها في‬،‫ األحكام كانت تدريجية‬: ً‫ َوال‬.2‫ج‬
‫آخر عمره بل مما فوض النبي (ص) تبليغها الى األئمة عليهَ السالم‬
،)‫ عائش ة وان كانت مبغضة لإلمام علي عليه السالم وألهل البيت عليهَ السالم إال َنها لَ تكن تظهر العداء والبغض على عهد النبي (ص‬: ً ‫ثانيا‬
‫ وقد كان الزواج مبنيا ً على‬،‫والتبري ونحو ذلك‬
ِّ‫ فيحكَ بكفره بعد اظهار البغض بالسب‬،‫والناصبي انما هو من يظهر العداء ألهل البيت عليهَ السالم‬
ِّ
ً ‫ ويكون منافقا‬،‫ فكل من تشهد الشهادتين جاَ النكاح معه وإن كان يبطن الكفر‬،‫ظاهر الحال‬.
‫ يمكن انها كانت موالية حينما تزوجها اإلمام الحسن عليه السالم ثَ بعد ذلك ُخدعت واقدمت على قتل االمام الحسن عليه السالم طمعا ً في‬: ً‫ َوال‬.3‫ج‬
‫ الدنيا ال ألجل العداء والبغض‬.
‫ وقد تزوجها االمام عليه‬،‫ على فرض كونها مبغضة ومعادية لإلمام من َول األمر لَ تكن تظهر العداء والبغض لتكون محكومة بحكَ الناصبي‬: ً ‫ثانيا‬
‫السالم لمصالح اجتماعية او سياسية على اساس ظاهر حالها وهو االسالم وان كانت منافقة‬.
Questioner: Hassan alRooh.
Question:
1- What is the ruling on marrying a nasibi woman???
2- How can the Prophet PBUH marry a nasibi woman who is Aisha???
3- How is it that Imam al Hassan al mujtaba would marry a nasibi woman who is Ju’aidah bint al
Asha’ath???
Answer:
1- Batil (broken not accepted).
2- Firstly, The rulings descended gradually, and probably the kufr of the nasibi and his
najasah(impurity) and the annulment of his marriage are probably some of the rulings which
were revealed at the end of his life PBUH and it could be that he even entrusted the Imams
PBUT to spread it and make tableegh about it.
Secondly, Even if Aisha is a hater of imam Ali PBUH and his ahlulbayt PBUT she never revealed
her hatred during the life of the prophet PBUH and as we know the Nasibi is one who shows his
hatred to ahlulbayt, that marriage was built upon what was apparent from her condition and
back then anyone who took Shahadah was permissible for marriage.
3-Firstly, it could be that she was Muwaliyah(Loyal to ahlulbayt) when Imam al Hassan PBUH
married her, and then she was tricked and tried to kill him PBUH because of her greed and love of
this life and not because of her hatred for him. Secondly, let us say for the sake of argument that
she was a hater and enemy of the imam, it could be that she never showed this so we can’t say
she’s nasibi and the imam married her for social benefits or political benefits and only for what
appeared of her and that is Islam even if she was a hypocrite.
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Salam alaikum.
Cover pager little bit incomprehensible, but as it seems that “Asraru alawiyat” by sheikh
Muhammad Fadl Masoode.
(he quoting hadith) “O Ali! Allah Taala said to me: “O Muhammad I send Ali with prophets inwardly
and with you outwardly”.
And in other hadith from stamp of prophets and messengers: “There was no messenger that Ali
wouldn’t send alone with him inwardly and with me outwardly”.
And in other one, prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ali wa sallam)said: “Ali was send along with all
prophets secretly and with me openly”.
70000 angels created from the face of Ali
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Salam alaikum.
There is no bound in quluw of rafida in ahlel-bayt. They ascribed to them such things, like ancient
greeks ascribed to their gods.
“Bihar al-anwar” (23/320):
‫ خلق هللا من نور وجه علي بن َبي طالب عليه السالم سبعين َلف ملك يستغفرون له‬:‫قال رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه وآله‬
‫ولمحبيه إلى يوم القيامة‬
“Messenger of Allah (sallalahu alaihi wa alihi) said: “Allah created 70 thousand
angels from face of Ali (alayhi salam), they ask for forgiveness for him and his
lovers till doomsday”.
What is more important: Quran or aimma?
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Prepared by brother TripolySunni:
Grand Aytaollat Ruhane, and his view on Quran:
‫ هل يوجد علماء من الطرفين السنة والشيعة من يقول بالتحريف بمعنى الزيادة و النقصان في القرآن الكريَ و هل‬:‫السؤال‬
‫يستدعي تكفير من يقول ذلك؟‬
‫ باسمه جلت َسمائه‬:‫الجواب‬
َ‫يوجد علماء قائلون بالتحريف و لکن ال يستدعی تکفيره‬
Translation:
Question: Are there Scholars from both sides The Sunnah and the Shia who claim that the Quran is
Corrupt(Mouharraf) in terms of Addition and Deletion? and should we Make Takfeer on them?
Answer: Bismillah,
There Are Scholars who Claim this But We don’t Need to Make Takfeer On them.
- end In accordance to our school, each and everyone who would say that Quran which is on our hand
was corrupted is kaafir. We are challenging Ruhane and all his followers, to give us single known
name of sunni scholar, with direct reference to his book (scan or link, because rafida couldn’t be
trusted), which would say that Quran was tampered.
Now let us see view of Ruhane on place of aimma.
‫ هل صحيح َن األئمة عليهَ السالم َفضل من كل األنبياء عدا رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه و آله؟ وإذا كن ذلك ثابت فما‬:‫السؤال‬
‫حكَ من َنكره؟‬
‫ باسمه جلت َسمائه‬:‫الجواب‬
‫الروايات الكثيرة الصحيحة تدل علي َفضلية األئمة ع عن جميع األنبياء عليهَ السالم غير رسول صلي هللا عليه و اله؛ و من‬
‫راجع الكتب ال يبقي له شك في ذلك و َما من َنكره إذا كان فاضال و راجع الكتب فهو معاند و كافر؛ و َما من لَ يكن راجعا إلي‬
‫ و بالجملة إنكار ذلك إنكار للضروري‬،‫تلکَ الروايات فال يكون كافرا‬
Translation:
Question: Is it true that the imams peace be upon them are better than all prophets except for the
prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and his family? And if that were true then what is the ruling
of the one who rejects it?
Answer: Bismillah,
There are plenty of sahih narrations showing that the imams are better than all prophets except for
our prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ali); And he who revises the books will have no doubts in this
matter unless he rejects it out of stubbornness then he’s a KAFFIR, whereas he who does not know
about those narrations he isn’t a kaffir, for rejecting it is rejecting what is necessary.
- end So belief in the corruption of Quran, belief of their greatest scholars like Kulayni and Jaza`eri,
Bahrani and many others….isn’t so important to make takfeer upon them. May be because Quran
isn’t a big deal for shias? But if someone would reject idiocy that imams are better than prophets,
he’s kaafir in accordance to this zindiq Ruhane!
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajion!
Flying imam and reason of problems of prophets
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Nawadir al mu’ujizat by Ibn Jareer al Tabaree al Shi’ee
http://www.yasoob.com/books/htm1/m013/11/no1123.html
9- Abu Ja’afar said: Abdullah bin Muhammad told us from Ibarah bin Zaid, from Thabit,
Anas bin Malik that he said: I saw Ali Bin al Hussein (alaihi salam) and he was on his
way to Yanbi’i (Location), so I said to him: O Son of the Messenger of Allah, wouldn’t
it be easier for you if you ride (A horse), He said: I will show you here what is easier,
As I looked he started to elevate with the wind and soon he was surrounded by birds
then the wind and the birds spoke to him.
Source: Nawadir al mu’ujizat 117, Dala’el al Imamah 86, Madinat al Ma’ajiz 294 #11.
9 – ‫ لقيت علي بن الحسين عليهما السالم وهو‬:‫ قال‬،‫ عن َنس بن مالك‬،‫ عن ثابت‬،‫ عن عبارة بن َيد‬،‫ حدثنا عبد هللا بن محمد‬:‫ قال َبو جعفر‬:‫ومنها‬
‫ فحملته الريح وحفت به الطير من كل جانب فما رَيت‬.‫ فانظر‬،‫ هاهنا ما هو َيسر‬:‫ فقال‬.‫ يابن رسول هللا لو ركبت لكان َيسر‬:‫ فقلت‬.‫خارج إلى ينبع‬
‫ يرفد إلى الطير لتناغيه والريح تكلمه‬،‫مرفوعا َحسن منه‬.
8- Abu Ja’afar Said: Abdullah bin Muneer told us, from Muhammad bin Isaac al Sa’edee
and Abu Muhamad Thabit bin Thabit that they said: The crowd of bin Hakim told us, he
said: I saw Ali bin al Hussein (alaihi salam) and he had grown wings with feathers so he
flew then descended then said: I just met with Ja’afar Bin Abi Talib (alaihi salam) in
the highest of highs, So I asked could you ascend? He said: And how can we not when
the throne and the kursee are ours. Source: Nawadir al Mu’ujizat 116, Dala’el al
imamah 86, Madinat al ma’ajez 293 #8.
8 – ،َ‫ حدثنا جمهور بن حكي‬:‫ قاال‬،‫) محمد ثابت بن ثابت‬4( ‫ عن محمد بن إسحاق الصاعدي وَبي‬،‫ حدثنا عبد هللا بن منير‬:‫ قال َبو جعفر‬:‫ومنها‬
‫ لقيت الساعة جعفر بن َبي طالب عليهما السالم في َعلى‬:‫ فقال‬،‫ ثَ نزل‬،‫ فطار‬،‫ رَيت علي بن الحسين عليهما السالم وقد ثبت له َجنحة وريش‬:‫قال‬
‫ والعرش والكرسي لنا‬.)5( )…‫ (… فكيف ال نقدر َن نصعد‬:‫ رجل تستطيع َن تصعد ؟ فقال‬:‫ فقلت‬.‫عليين‬.
10- Abu Ja’afar said, my brother told me from Abi al Hassan Ahmad bin Ali who is known as “Ibn al
Baghday”, he said: I found in the book which is called “book of Mu’udilat” a narration of Talib
Muhamad bin al Hussein bin Zaid He sad: (…) From Muhammad bin Thabit that he said: I was sitting
in the majlis of Sayyiduna Abi al Hassan Ali bin al Hussein ZainulAbedeen (alaihi salam) when
Abdullah ibn Umar bin al Khattab stood and said: Ya Ali bin al Hussein, I heard that you claim that
prophet Yunus was trapped in the belly of the whale because he refused the wilayah of Ali bin abi
Talib (alaihi salam) and opposed it, So Ali bin al Hussein Said (alaihi salam): O Abdullah and do you
deny this?
Ibn Umar said: I do not accept it, the imam said: Do you want this to be proven? He said: Yes, the
imam said: Sit down, then he called on his boy and told him to bring them two pieces of cloth, then
he told Muhammad Bin Thabit: Ya Muhamad cover the eyes of Abdullah with this piece and then
cover your own eyes with the other. Then He spoke some words and then he said: Remove the
cloth, suddenly we found ourselves on a Rug on the coast of the sea. He spoke some other words
and the whales responded to him and it appeared between them a giant female whale, He said to
her: What is your name? She said: My name is Noun, he asked; Why was Yunus trapped in your belly?
She said: he denied the wilayah of your father Ali bin abi talib so he was trapped in my belly and
when he finally accepted it, I was ordered to release him, and it is also similar with those who
refuse the wilayah of ahlulBayt they will be thrown in hellfire. Then the Imam said: O Abdullah bin
Umar have you heard and witnessed? He said: Yes, Then he told us to cover our eyes again as he
spoke words and suddenly we were back on that same rug in his Majlis, Abdullah later left So I told
the Imam: I saw fantastic things today and I have believed, Do you think Abdullah will believe in
what i believed? He said: Would you like to know? I said: Yes, He said: Stand up and follow him, So I
followed him and walked besides him and he told me: If you knew the Magics of Bani abdul Mutallib
you wouldn’t be fooled so easily, They are a people who inherit Magic from generation to
generation. Then I realized that what my imam said was the truth.
Source: Dala’el al Imamah 92, Nawadir al Mu’ujizat 118, Madinat al ma’ajiz 299 #26, Bihar al Anwar
14/401 #15 and 46/39, Al burhan 4/37 #8, Al Manaqib ibn Shahir Ashoub 3/281, It was summarized
in ithbat al Hudat 258 #67.
10 – ” ‫) (رض) عن َبي الحسن َحمد ابن علي المعروف ب* ” ابن البغداي ” – مولده ب* ” سورا‬3( ] ‫ َخبرني [ َخي‬:‫ قال َبو جعفر‬:‫ومنها‬
‫ وجدت في الكتاب الملقب بكتاب ” المعضالت ” رواية َبي طالب محمد‬:‫ قال‬،- 295 ‫) في يوم الجمعة [ لخمس بقين من ] جمادى االولى سنة‬4(
‫ كنت جالسا في مجلس سيدنا َبي الحسن علي بن‬:‫ ابن رباح – رفعه عن رجاله – عن محمد ابن ثابت قال‬،‫ حدثني َبوه‬:‫ابن الحسين بن َيد قال‬
‫ بلغني َنك تدعي َن يونس بن منى عرض‬،‫ يا علي بن الحسين‬:‫ فقال‬،‫الحسين َين العابدين عليهما السال م إذ وقف به عبد هللا بن عمر بن الخطاب‬
[ ‫ وما َنكرت‬،‫ يا عبد هللا‬:‫ فقال له علي بن الحسين عليهما السالم‬.‫ فحبس في بطن الحوت‬،‫عليه والية َبيك علي بن َبي طالب عليه السالم فلَ يقبله‬
‫) ذلك ؟‬6( ] ‫من‬
‫ شد‬،‫ يا محمد بن ثابت‬:‫ وقال لي‬.‫ جئنا بعصابتين‬:‫ فقال‬،‫ ثَ دعا غالمه‬.‫ اجلس‬:‫ ثَ قال له‬.َ‫ نع‬:‫ َتريد َن يصح لك ذلك ؟ قال له‬:‫ فقال‬.‫ إني الَقبله‬:‫قال‬
‫ فوجدنا َنفسنا على بساط ونحن‬،‫ فحللناها‬.َ‫ حلوا َعينك‬:‫ ثَ قال‬،‫ فشددنا َعيننا فتكلَ بكالم‬،‫ واشدد عينك باالخرى‬،‫عين عبد هللا باحدى العصابتين‬
‫ لَ حبس‬:‫ فقال لها‬.‫ إسمي نون‬:‫ ما اسمك ؟ فقالت‬:‫ فقال لها‬،‫ فتكلَ بكالم فاستجابت له حيتان البحر إذ ظهرت بينهن حوتة عظيمة‬.‫على ساحل البحر‬
‫ وكذلك من َنكر‬.‫ فقذفته‬،‫ فحبس في بطني فلما َفر بها وَذعن امرت‬،‫ مرض عليه والية َبيك علي بن َبي طالب فأنكرها‬:‫يونس في بطنك ؟ فقالت له‬
.‫ حلوها‬:‫ ثَ قال‬،‫ فشددناها فتكلَ بكالم‬.َ‫ شدوا َعينك‬:‫ فقال‬.َ‫ نع‬:‫ َسمعت وشهدت ؟ فقال‬،‫ يا عبد هللا‬:‫ فقال له‬.َ‫واليتكَ َهل البيت يخلد في نار الجحي‬
‫فحللناها‪ ،‬فإذا نحن على البساط في مجلسه‪ .‬فودعه عبد هللا وانصرف‪ ،‬فقلت له‪ :‬يا سيدي لقد رَيت في يومي عجبا وآمنت به‪ ،‬فترى عبد هللا بن عمر‬
‫يؤمن بما آمنت به ؟ فقال لي‪َ :‬تحب َن تعرف ذلك ؟ فقلت‪ :‬نعَ‪ .‬فقال‪ :‬قَ‪ ،‬فاتبعه وماشيه‪ ،‬واسمع ما يقول لك‪ .‬قال‪ :‬فتبعته في الطريق ومشيت معه‬
‫‪).‬فقال لي‪ :‬إنك لو عرفت سحر [ بني ] (‪ )1‬عبد المطلب لما كان هذا في نفسك‪ ،‬هؤالء قوم يتوارثون السحر كابرا عن كابر (‪2‬‬
‫فعند ذلك علمت َن االمام ال يقول إال حقا‬
‫روى مثله في دالئل االمامة‪ ،92 :‬عنه مدينة المعاجز‪ 299 :‬ح ‪َ .26‬خرجه في البحار‪ 401 / 14 :‬ح ‪ 15‬وج ‪ 39 / 46‬والبرهان‪ 37 / 4 :‬ح ‪8‬‬
‫عن المناقب البن شهر اشوب‪َ .281 / 3 :‬ورده مختصرا في اثبات الهداة‪ 258 :‬ح ‪ 67‬عن صاحب كتاب مناقب فاطمة وولدها عليهَ السالم‪،‬‬
‫باسناده عن محمد بن ثابت‪ ،‬عن على بن الحسين عليهما السالم‪2 .‬‬
‫!‪Aimma are names of Allah‬‬
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‫‪Salam alaikum.‬‬
‫‪Shia muhadith #1 Muhammad al-Kulayni narrated in his book al-Kafi (1/143/#4):‬‬
‫الحسين بن محمد األشعري ومحمد بن يحيى جميعا‪ ،‬عن َحمد بن إسحاق عن سعدان بن مسلَ عن معاوية بن عمار عن َبي عبد‬
‫نحن وهللا األسماء الحسنى التي ال يقبل هللا من العباد ‪:‬هللا (ع) في قول هللا عز وجل‪“ :‬وهل األسماء الحسنى فادعوه بها” قال‬
‫‪.‬عمال إال بمعرفتنا‬
‫‪4. Al-Husayn ibn Muhammad al-Ash‘ari and Muhammad ibn Yahya altogether have narrated from‬‬
‫‪Ahmad ibn Ishaq from Su‘dan ibn Muslim from Mu‘awiya ibn ‘Ammar from abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) who‬‬
‫‪has said the following about the words of Allah. ”God has the most blessed Names. You should‬‬
‫‪address Him in your worship by these Names . . .” (7:180) The Imam said, “We, I swear by Allah,‬‬
‫‪are the most blessed names of Allah without which Allah does not accept any of the good deeds of‬‬
‫”‪His servants until they know us properly.‬‬
‫”‪Other shia scholar al-Aayashi in his commentary (2/42, as it quoted by al-Majlisi in “Biharul anwar‬‬
‫‪91/5, and by Tabarsi “Mustadrak al-wasail” 5/229-230) narrated that Imam said:‬‬
“We are beautiful names of Allah, (and) it wouldn’t be accepted from anyone except by
knowing us properly”.
Something similar narrated al-Kashani in “Tafsir as-Safe” 1/113.
Cow-zombi
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Kulayni in “al-Kafi” (1/484) narrated:
‫ مر العبد الصالح بامرَة بمنى وهي تبكي‬:‫ عن عبدهللا بن المغيرة قال‬،َ‫ عن علي بن الحك‬،‫ عن َحمد بن محمد‬،‫عدة من َصحابنا‬
‫ يا عبدهللا إن لنا صبيانا يتامى وكانت‬:‫ ما يبكيك يا َمة هللا؟ قالت‬:‫ فدنا منها ثَ قال لها‬،‫ وقد ماتت لها بقرة‬،‫وصبيانها حولها يبكون‬
‫ يا َمة هللا هل لك َن َحييها‬:‫لي بقرة معيشتي ومعيشة صبياني كان منها وقد ماتت و بقيت منقطعا بي وبولدي ال حيلة لنا فقال‬
‫ ثَ قام فصوت بالبقرة فنخسها‬،‫ ثَ رفع يده هنيئة وحرك شفتيه‬،‫ فتنحى وصلى ركعتين‬،‫ فالهمت َن قالت نعَ يا عبدهللا‬،‫لك‬
‫ فلما نظرت المرَة إلى البقرة صاحت‬،‫ فاستوت على االرض قائمة‬،‫ عيسى ابن مريَ ورب نخسة َو ضربها برجله‬:‫وقالت‬
‫ فخالط الناس وصار بينهَ ومضى عليه السالم‬،‫الكعبة‬.
From ‘Abdallah ibn al-Mughira who has said the following. “The pious servant of Allah passed in
Mina by a woman who was weeping and her children around her also were weeping because her cow
was dead. He went close to her and asked, “What has caused you to weep O slave of Allah ?” Sshe
said, “O servant of Allah, we have orphan children. Our cow that was them means for our living has
died and we are left without any means of living.” He said, “Will you be happy if will b;ring your
cow back to kife?” She was just inspired to say, “Yes, O servant of Allah I will be very happy..” He
stepped aside and said two Rak‘at prayers. He then raised his hands gently has said the following
and moved his lips. He then stood up and called the cow to get up. He pushed the cow with his foot
or a staff and she was up straight and standing. When the woman looked at the cow she cried and
said, “Jesus, son of Mary, I swear by the Lord of the Ka‘ba. Many people gathered around and he
disappeared among them and went.”
He cited it in chapter “The Birth of abu al-Hassan Musa ibn Ja‘far (a.s.)”.
Obviously here talk was about that Imam, but Allah knows best.
Majlisi authenticated hadith in “Miratul uqul”.
Deny the authority of Sistani = make an objection to the authority
of Allah
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Book: Akaid al imamiya.
Author: Muhammad Rza Muzaffar.
4. Doctrine Concerning the Position of mujtahid
We believe that a fully qualified mujtahid is a representative of the Imam, in the case of the
latter’s absence. Thus he is an authority over Muslims and he performs the functions of the Imam as
regards judgement and administration among the people. Because of this, Imam Ja’far as Sadiq
said:
To deny the authority of a mujtahid is to deny the authority of the Imam, and to deny tile
authority of the Imam is to make an objection to the authority of Allah. and this is tantamount
to polytheism (shirk).
Therefore the qualified mujtahid is not only one who issues fatwas, but he also has general
authority over Muslims who must consult him if they require judgement, this being obtainable only
from him. It is correspondingly wrong for anyone to give judgement except him or one who is
appointed by him, as no-one can pass sentence without his permission. Also, all that which belongs
to the Imam should be given to the mujtahid.
Such authority has been bestowed upon the qualified mujtahid by the Imam so that he may
represent him in his absence; hence he is known as the representative of the Imam (na’ ib alimam).
So for them “Deny the authority of Sistani=make an objection to the authority of Allah”.
Quluw (extremity) in imams
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al-Khomayni in his famous book “Hukumatul islamiyah” wrote:
It is one of the essential beliefs of our Shī‘i school that no one can attain the spiritual status of
the Imāms, not even the cherubim or the prophets.
‫‪And let us quote responce from shia site aqaaed.com:‬‬
‫الذي عليه َكثر علمائنا المتأخرين ان األئمة االثني عشر َفضل من جميع األنبياء حتى َولي العزم‬
“Majority of our latest scholars are upon (the faith) that 12 imams are superior to all prophets,
even ulul-azm”
And these ignorant listed there few so called proofs for this quluw, and the very first one they cited
narration from Mufaddal ibn Umar.
Allahu Akbar! Juhal! That was the very same Mufaddal, that we once talked about.
And these ignorants cited as a proof hadith, which they attributed to our book.
1) “Scholars of this nation like prophets of banu Israel”.
Ibn Muflih in “Adabu sharia” (2/37) said: “There is no base for it, and it’s not authentic”.
Albani in “Silsila ad daifa” said there is no base for it.
2) “Scholars of this nation are equal to prophets of banu Israel”.
I couldn’t locate such hadith in our sources.
I’d like to remind you words of Qadi Iyad al-Maliki about people who believe that imams are
superior to prophets.
Imam could raise from the dead
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Kulayni narrated in “al-Kafi” (1/470), and Majlisi said it’s hasan in “Mirat”:
َْ ُ ‫علَى ََبِي َج ْعف ٍَر ( عليه السالم ) فَقُ ْلتُ لَهُ ََ ْنت‬
ْ َ َ ‫ِعدَّة ٌ مِ ْن‬
َ ُ‫صي ٍر قَا َل دَخ َْلت‬
ِ َ‫ع ْن ََبِي ب‬
َ ِ‫ع ْن ُمثَنًّى ْال َحنَّاط‬
َ ََِ ‫ي ب ِْن ْال َحك‬
َ ‫ع ْن‬
َ ‫ع ْن ََحْ َمدَ ب ِْن ُم َح َّم ٍد‬
َ ‫ص َحا ِبنَا‬
ِِّ ‫ع ِل‬
ُ ‫اَّلِ ( صلى هللا عليه وآله ) َو ِار‬
َّ ‫سو ُل‬
َّ ‫سو ِل‬
َْ ُ ‫ع ِل ُموا قَا َل لِي نَعَ َْ قُ ْلتُ فَأ َ ْنت‬
ُ ‫اَّلِ ( صلى هللا عليه وآله ) قَا َل نَعَ َْ قُ ْلتُ َر‬
ُ ‫َو َرثَةُ َر‬
َ ‫عل ََِ ُك َّل َما‬
َ ِ‫َ ْاأل َ ْنبِيَاء‬
َّ ‫ص قَا َل نَعَ َْ بِإ ِ ْذ ِن‬
‫علَى‬
َ ‫علَى َوجْ ِهي َو‬
َ ‫س َح‬
َ َ‫ت َ ْقد ُِرون‬
َ ‫ِي ادْنُ مِ نِِّي يَا ََبَا ُم َح َّم ٍد فَدَن َْوتُ مِ ْنهُ َف َم‬
َ ‫علَى َ َ ْن تُحْ يُوا ْال َم ْوت َى َو تُب ِْر ُءوا ْاأل َ ْك َمهَ َو ْاألَب َْر‬
َ ‫اَّلِ ث ُ ََّ َقا َل ل‬
َّ ‫ص ْرتُ ال‬
‫علَ ْي ِه َْ َي ْو َم‬
َ ‫ض َو ْالبُيُوتَ َو ُك َّل‬
َّ ‫س َو ال‬
ِ َّ‫ش ْيءٍ فِي ْال َبلَ ِد ث ُ ََّ قَا َل لِي َ َ تُحِ بُّ َ َ ْن ت َ ُكونَ َه َكذَا َو َلكَ َما لِلن‬
َ ‫علَيْكَ َما‬
َ ‫اس َو‬
َ
َ ‫س َما َء َو ْاأل َ ْر‬
َ ‫ي فَأ َ ْب‬
َ ‫ش ْم‬
َّ َ‫ع ْين‬
‫ع َمي ٍْر ِب َهذَا فَقَا َل َ َ ْش َهدُ َ َ َّن َهذَا‬
ُ ‫ي فَعُ ْدتُ َك َما ُك ْنتُ قَا َل فَ َحدَّثْتُ ابْنَ َ َ ِبي‬
َ ‫علَى‬
َ ‫س َح‬
َ ‫ْال ِق َيا َم ِة َ َ ْو تَعُودَ َك َما ُك ْنتَ َو لَكَ ْال َجنَّةُ خَالِصا ً قُ ْلتُ ََعُودُ َك َما ُك ْنتُ فَ َم‬
َّ ‫ع ْي َن‬
‫ار َح ٌّق‬
َ ‫ َح ٌّق َك َما َ َ َّن النَّ َه‬.
A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Ali ibn al-Hakam from
al-Muthanna al-Hannat from abu Basir who has said the following. “Once I went to see abu
Ja‘far (a.s.) and asked him, “Are you the heirs of the Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Yes, we
are his heirs.” I then asked, “Was the Messenger of Allah the heir of the prophets and knew all
that they knew?” He said to me, “Yes, it is true.” I then asked, “Do you have the power to
bring the dead back to life and cure the lepers, and the blind?” He said, “Yes, we do have such
powers by the permission of Allah.” The he said to me, “Come closer to me, O abu
Muhammad.” I went closer to him and he rubbed my face and my eyes and saw the sun, the
skies, the earth, the houses and all things in the town. Then he said to me, “Do you like to live
this way and will have what others have and be responsible for whatever they will be held
responsible on the Day of Judgment or like to live as before and will have paradise purely?” I
said, “I would like to live as I lived before.” He rubbed my eyes and I found myself as before.”
The narrator has said that he told it to ibn abu ‘Umayr who said, “I testify that this is true just
as the day is true.”
http://alhikmeh.com/arabic/mktba/hadith/alkafi01/15.htm#05
Majlese on bitrh of 12-th imam
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Source: The book of occultation
Chapter: His birth and story of his mother
Compiler: `Allamah Muhammad Baqir al-Majlisi
Translator: Hassan Allahyari
Publisher: Ansariyan Publications -Qom
First Edition 2003-1424-1382
Al-Husain Ibn Hamdān and another reliable Sheikh narrated to me from Hakīma Bint Muhammad Ibn
‘Ali al-Redhā (alaihi salam) narrated that she used to enter upon Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam) and
pray for him that Allah may give him a son. She said, I entered upon her and said to him what I used
to say and prayed as I used to pray. He said, “Aunt, as for your prayers that may Allah give me a
son, it will happen tonight.” It was a Friday eve, three nights left from Sha‘bān of the year two
hundred and fifty seven. “Have your iftār with us.” “Who is this blessed boy going to be born from,
my Master,” I asked. “From Narjis, aunt.”
I said to him, “There is not one amongst your bondmaids more cherished to me than her.” I rose
and went to her. When I entered upon her, she did to me what she always did. I bowed on her
hands and kissed them and did not allow her do what she always did. She called me her lady; I
called her the same. She said, “May I be your ransom,” she said. “I and the whole world be your
ransom,” I returned.
She turned that down. I said to her, “Do not turn down what I did. For Allah will grant you in this
night a boy, a Master in this world and the hereafter. He will be the relief of the believers.” She
was bashful.
I looked at her closely but did not see any sign of pregnancy. I said to my Master Abu Muhammad
(alaihi salam), “I do not see any pregnancy in her.” He smiled and said, “We the congregation of
successors are not carried in the abdomens, but rather, we are carried on the sides. We do not
come out from wombs, but rather from the right leg from our mothers. Because we are the
Divine light to which impurities do not reach.” “My Master,” I said, “you just informed me he will
be born in this night. In which time?” He said, “At dawn-break, the dignified before Allah will be
born insha’Allah.
Lady Hakīma says, I got up and made iftār and then slept near Narjis. Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam)
slept at the front deck of the house in which we were. When the time of nightly prayers arrived, I
got up. Narjis was asleep. There was not any sign of parturition in her. I began my prayers and then
performed the watr prayers. As I was in the watr, it occurred to my mind that the dawn has come.
As doubts came to my heart, Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam) called out from the deck, “Aunt, dawn
has not come.” I finished the prayers fast and Narjis moved. I came near her and pulled her to me
and mentioned the name of Allah on her. “Do you feel anything?” I asked her. “Yes,” she said. A
faintness overwhelmed me that I could not hold my person and it put me to sleep. The same
happened to Narjis. I did not wake up but by feeling my Master the Mahdi and hearing the call of
Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam), saying, “Aunt, bring my son to me.” I kissed him and removed the
veil from my Master. There he was, prostrating, reaching the earth with his forehead, palms,
knees, and toes. There was transcribed on his right arm, The Truth has came and vanity has
perished, verily, vanity is ever perishing. I pulled him to myself and found him to be pure and
clean without need to any attention. I wrapped him in a cloth and carried him to Abu
Muhammad (alaihi salam). He picked his son and sat him on his left palm and placed his right
palm on his back. Then he entered his tongue into the blessed baby’s mouth and touched his
hand against the baby’s back and ears and joints. Then he said to him, “Talk, my son.” He said,
“I bear witness that a deity other than Allah is not, and I bear witness that Muhammad is
Messenger of Allah and that ‘Ali, the Prince of the Believers, is the Wali of Allah.” Then he kept
counting the Master Imams, one after the other, until he reached himself. He beseeched relief
for his devotees on his hands and then with great awe stopped.”
“Aunt, take him to his mother,” said Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam), “so he greets her. Then bring
him to me.” I took him. He greeted his mother and then I returned him to his father. Then the like
of a veil was erected between me and Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam) and I did not see my Master. I
said to him, “My Master, where is our lord?” He said, “Took him someone who is more nearer to him
than you. When it is the seventh day, come to us.” On the seventh day, I came and greeted him
and sat down. He said, “Bring my son to me.” I brought my Master, who was in a yellow dress. His
father did the same things to him like the first time and put his tongue into his mouth and then said
to him, “Talk, my son.”
He said, “I bear witness that a deity other than Allah is not.” Then he praised Muhammad by
beseeching blessings for him and the Prince of the Believers and the Imams one after the other
until he stopped by mentioning his father. Then he recited, In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the
Compassionate; And We desire to confer kindness upon those who have been enfeebled on earth
and make them Imams and make them heirs and give them power on earth and show Pharaoh and
Hāmān and their armies from them what they have been averting.
Then he said, “Read, my son, from the books that Allah has revealed upon his prophets and
apostles.” My Master began with the book of Adam and read it in Assyrian; he read the book of
Idrīs, the book of Noah, the book of Hūd, the book of Sālih, the pages of Abraham, the Torah of
Moses, the Psalms of David, the Evangel of Jesus, and the Qur’ān of my grandfather Muhammad
(alaihi salam). Then he narrated the stories of the apostles and messengers until his own time.
After forty days, I went to the house of Abu Muhammad (alahi salam) and suddenly saw that the
Master of the Age was walking about the house. I had never seen a face more beautiful than his,
nor heard a tongue more eloquent than his. Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam) said to me, “This is the
boy dignified before Allah, the Exalted.”
I said to him, “My Master, he is forty days old and I see him like this.” He said, “My aunt, don’t you
know that we the congregation of legatees grow in a day so much that the others grow in a week,
and grow in a week so much that the others grow in a year.” I rose and kissed his forehead and
returned. I came back and looked him but did not see him. I said to my Master Abu Muhammad
(alaihi salam), “What has our Master done?” He said, “Aunt, we entrusted him to the one mother of
Moses entrusted her son to.” Then he said, “When my Lord granted me the Mahdi of this Ummah,
He sent two angels, who carried him to the Pavilions of the Throne (Sarādiq al-‘Arsh), so much so
they stood him in front of Allah, the Glorified. He said to him, ‘Blessed be you My servant for the
support of my religion and manifestation of My command and guidance of My servants. I have taken
an oath that through you I will seize, through you I will grant, through I will forgive, through you I
will punish. Return him, O’ two angels, return him. Return him to his father like a friend of Mine is
returned. Convey to his father that he is in My accord of protection, in My security, and in My eyes
until I establish through him the truth, until I perish through him vanity, and until the religion is for
Me forever.’”
She said, “When he fell from the abdomen of his mother on earth, he was found kneeling on his
knees, raising his forefingers. Then he sneezed and said, ‘All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the
worlds. And may Allah bless Muhammad—a humble servant, neither proud nor arrogant—and his
household.’ Then he said, ‘The oppressors have presumed that the Hujja of Allah has perished. If I
were given permission, this doubt would perish.’”
I don’t see any need to comment.
Shia Mahdi would come back in the holiday of majosiyah
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Just quote and nothing more:
As a matter of fact, Nourouz or the Spring Equinox is not the mythology or superstitious
practices that the wayward have tried to turn it into. It might have been punctually observed in
Iran and definitely Persianized ever since Cyrus the Great conquered Babylon and borrowed
this and other traditions from the astronomically advanced Mesopotamians, but there is no
denying of the fact that it is as old as creation itself. You can discover the truth if you delve
deeply into the Holy Qur’an, where God speaks of the yearly revival of nature as a sign to
humanity of the eventual rising of the dead on the Day of Resurrection. The sayings of Prophet
Muhammad (S.A.W.A.) and the infallible Imams of his Household help unravel the mysteries of
the Spring Equinox.
Apart from certain ahadith that refer to the resting of Prophet Noah’s (‘a) Ark on Mount Joudi
after the great flood and the parting of the sea-waters for Prophet Moses (‘a) on the Spring
Equinox there is a narration that says it will be the Spring Equinox when the Savior of mankind,
Imam Mahdi (as) will reappear to rid the earth of all vestiges of vices and oppression and to fill
it with the global government of peace and justice.
So the Day of Nourouz, on which fasting has also been recommended, is a day to strengthen
spiritual values, a day of self and social reform, a day to stand firm against the pressures of the
unjust and oppressive powers, and a day to renew allegiance to the Lord of the Age, Imam
Mahdi (as).
Source article “Norooz, the Iranian New Year” at rafed.net
Lord means imam
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#mce_temp_url#Allah Taala said in the Quran:
(az-Zumar, 69) And the earth shall beam with the light of its Lord, and the Book shall be laid down,
and the prophets and the witnesses shall be brought up, and judgment shall be given between them
with justice, and they shall not be dealt with unjustly.
Ali ibn Ibrahim al-Qummi in the commentary of these words “And the earth shall beam with the
light of its Lord”, narrated (2/253) that imam said:
‫رب االرض يعني إمام االرض‬
“Loard of the earth it’s mean imam of the earth”.
And let me remind you that this Ali al-Qummi believed that everything he narrated is authentic.
Sorts of nawaseeb
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Shia sheikh Muhammad Hasan an-Najafi al-Jawhari in his book “Jawaher al-kalam” (vol 6, p 66)
quoted other shia scholar saying:
“ ‫ الثاني ما ينسب إلى َحدهَ (عليهَ السالم) ما يسقط‬،)‫ الخارجي القادح في علي (ع‬:‫َن الناصب يطلق على خمسة َوجه‬
‫ الخامس من َنكر النص على علي (ع) بعد‬،)‫ الرابع من اعتقد فضيلة غير علي (ع‬،‫ الثالث من ينكر فضيلتهَ لو سمعها‬،‫العدالة‬
‫سماعه َو وصوله إليه بوجه يصدقه‬
The Nasibi title is designated (for a person) over five reasons: For a Khariji who criticizes Ali (as);
Secondly for he who attributes something that invalidates uprightness (adala) to any of the Imams,
Thirdly, for he who denies a virtue of theirs when he heard it; Fourthly, for one who believes in the
superiority of someone other than Ali (over him); Fifthly, he who denied the report of explicit
election of Ali after hearing it or its reaching to him in a manner that allows him to confirm it”.
Khomayni in “Hukumat al-islamiyah”
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He said:
To prove that government and authority belong to the Imām (‘a) is not to imply that the Imām (‘a)
has no spiritual status. The Imām (‘a) does indeed possess certain spiritual dimensions that are
unconnected with their function as a ruler. The spiritual status of the Imām (‘a) is a universal
divine viceregency that is sometimes mentioned by the Imāms (‘a). It is a viceregency pertaining to
the whole of creation, by virtue of which all the atoms in the universe humble themselves before
the holder of authority. It is one of the essential beliefs of our Shī‘i school that no one can attain
the spiritual status of the Imāms, not even the cherubim or the prophets. In fact, according to the
traditions that have been handed down to us, the Most Noble Messenger and the Imāms (‘a)
existed before the creation of the world in the form of lights situated beneath the divine throne;
they were superior to other men even in the sperm from which they grow and in their physical
composition. Their exalted station is limited only by the divine will, as indicated by the saying of
Jibrā’īl (‘a) recorded in the traditions on the mi‘rāj: “Were I to draw closer by as much as the
breadth of a finger, surely I would burn.” The Prophet (s) himself said: “We have states with God
that are beyond the reach of the cherubim and the prophets.”
Easy way to heaven
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Grand Ayatollah Akhond Mulla Zainul-Abideen al-Kalbaikani wrote in his book
“Anwaar al-Wilayah”:
“There’s nothing (impure) in the urine of the infallibles: their blood, urine and feaces
(are free of) any filth or dirtiness and hence they are not from those things which you
have to stay away from in the prayers or its like…
nor is there any stink in their urine or feaces, rather both are like the Musk.
Nay, (in fact) whoever drinks [and eat] their urine, their feaces and their blood :
Allah forbids the [punishment] of the fire on him, and admission to Heaven becomes
a must for him …”
Ali judge between angels
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In this book called Musnad Faatima [the collection of the hadeeths of Fatima] , the author writes :
“Chapter : Alee (may peace be on him) A Judge of the Angels :
“from A’mash from Zayd bin Wahb from Abdullah ibn Mas’oud who said : ‘I went to Faatima (may
peace be on her) and said to her : ‘Where is your husband?’
She said : ‘Jibreel (may peace be on him) took him to the heavens.’
I said : ‘For what?’
She said : ‘A group of the angels argued about something, so they asked for a judge from among the
humans. Thus Allaah revealed to them that they should choose. So they chose Alee bin Abee Taalib
(may peace be on him).”
Owner of hell and heaven
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Al-Qummi in “Ilal ush sharae”:
Abu Abdullaah said : ‘When it is the Day of Judgement, a pulpit will be put in place of which all the
creation will see it : and a man will stand on it and on his right hand there is an angel and on his
left hand there is angel standing with him.
Then the one on his right hand will announce : ‘ O congregation of creatures this is Alee ibn Abee
Taalib the owner of paradise : he enters into it whoever he wills.
Then the one on his left hand will announce : ‘ O congregation of creatures this is Alee ibn Abee
Taalib the owner of hell fire : he enters into it whoever he wills.’
Clear-cut takfir of Islamic ummah from M. Majlisi
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Salam alaikum.
In his book “Biharul anwar” (8/365) Majlisi narrated:
‫ ومن جحد نبوتي فقد جحدهللا ربوبيته‬، ‫ من جحد عليا إمامته من بعدى فإنما جحد نبوتي‬: ‫ وقال النبي صلى هللا عليه وآله‬.
“Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa alihi) said: “Whoever would reject imamate of Ali after me, he
rejected my prophethood, and whoever rejected my prophethood like rejected Allah and his
lordship”.
And in the same volume at page 366, he narrated:
، َ‫ االئمة من بعدي اثنا عشر َو لهَ َميرالمؤمنين علي بن َبي طالب عليه السالم وآخرهَ القائ‬: ‫و قال النبي صلى هللا عليه وآله‬
‫ من َنكر واحدا منهَ فقد َنكرني‬، ‫ ومعصيتهَ معصيتي‬، ‫ طاعتهَ طاعتي‬.
And prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa alihi) said: “After me would be 12 imams, first of
them commander of faithful Ali ibn Abu Talib (alaihi salam) and last from them is
Qaem. Obedience to them is obedience to me. And disobedience of them is
disobedience to me, and whoever would reject one of them, he rejected me”.
And at the same page he narrated:
‫ من شك في كفر َعدائنا والظالمين لنا فهو كافر‬: ‫ وقال الصادق عليه السالم‬.
And Sadiq (alaihi salam) said: “Whoever would doubt in disbelief of our enemies and
our oppressors is kaafir”.
And at page 368 he quoted other shia scholar, sheikh at-Toose:
‫ وَيضا‬، ‫ و إجماعهَ حجة‬، ‫ والدليل على ذلك إجماع الفرقة المحققة المامية على ذلك‬، ‫عندنا َن من حارب َميرالمؤمنين كافر‬
‫’فنحن نعلَ َن من حاربه كان منكرا المامته‬
And in our view whoever fought against amiralmuminin he’s kaafir, and proof for that is agreed
opinion of firqatu al-muhaqaqat al-imamiyah, and their agreed opinion is a proof (hujja), and we
also know that whoever fought him, he rejected his imamate…
Conclusion:
1) All Muslims who rejected imamate of anyone from 12 imams are kuffar in the view of imamiyah.
2) Aisha, Talha, Zubayr, Muawiya are disbelievers in accordance to agreed opinion of imamiyah.
Another example of quluw
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Ibn Yusuf al-Hilli in his book “Kashf al-yaqin” p 8, wrote:
ْ ُ ‫ان َ ُ ِريد‬
‫ونان‬
َ ‫ َح َمدتنِي‬:ِ‫فَأو َحى هللاُ ت َعالَى إلَيه‬
ِ ‫ إلَهي فَي ُك‬:َ‫ قَال‬. َ‫َن َخلُقَ ُهما فِي دَ ِار الدُّنيَا َما خَلقتُك‬
ِ َ‫عبدِي! َوع َِّزتي َو َجاللِي لَوالَ َعبد‬
ُ
َّ
َ
َ
ُ
َ
َ
َُ ‫ي ُمقِي‬
َّ ‫ي‬
ِ َ‫سهُ فإذا ه َُو َمكتوبٌ على الع‬
َ ،ِ‫الرح َمة‬
َ َ‫ فرف َع َر‬.‫سكَ َوانظ ْر‬
َ َ‫ نَعَ َْ!َ يَا آدَ ُم ارفَ ْع َر‬:‫مِ نِِّي؟ قَال‬
ٌّ ‫ع ِل‬
ُّ ِ‫ ُم َح َّمد ٌ نَب‬،ُ ‫ ال إلهَ إال هللا‬:‫رش‬
ُ
َ
ُ
َّ
َّ ِ‫س ْمتُ ب‬
.‫عصانِي‬
َ ‫عهُ َوإن‬
َ ‫عزتي َدخِ ُل ال َجنَّةَ َمن َطا‬
َ ‫ف َح َّق‬
َ ‫ و َم ْن َنك ََر َحقهُ لعِنَ َو‬.‫طاب‬
َ ‫ي ََ كا َو‬
َ ‫ َق‬.‫خاب‬
َ ‫ َو َمن‬.ِ‫ال ُح َّجة‬
َ ‫عر‬
ٍِّ ‫عل‬
ُ
ْ
َ َ ‫وإن‬
َّ
َّ
ْ ُ‫عصاه‬
ُ
ُ‫مت‬
‫طاعنِي‬
‫ن‬
‫ال‬
‫ل‬
َ
‫ِي‬
‫ت‬
‫عز‬
‫ب‬
‫س‬
‫ق‬
َ
‫و‬.
ِ‫دخ‬
َ ‫ار َمن‬
َ َ
َ
ِ
Allah revealed to him: My servant! Now that you praised me, by My glory, were if not for the sake
of two of my servants, I would never have created you. Adam said: O my God! Are those two worthy
servants from my issue? (Allah answered): Yes. Now raise your hand and behold what you see. An he
raised his head and saw an inscription on the Arsh: There is no god but Allah and Muhammad (the
prophet of mercy) is His Messenger and `Ali is Allah’s proof for the people. Whoever recognizes
`Ali’s right, he is pure inwardly and whoever denies his right will be deprived from my mercy and
will suffer. I swear by My glory that whoever obeys `Ali, I will give him a place in heaven even if
he disobey Me, if anyone disobeys him, I will punish him with fire even if he has obeyed me.
Abdulla ibn Saba and his relations with shias
January 11, 2010 at 6:06 pm | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations, Journey to shia books, Take
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Author of book is Abu Muhammad al-Hasan bin Musa al-Nubakhti.
Let me introcude him.
al-Najashi in his al-Fihrist, wrote:
“al-Hasan bin Musa: Abu Muhammad al-Nubakhti, the well versed in dialectism, who surpassed the
peers of his time prior and after the 300 (hijra)”
al-Fihrist: al-Najashi, p.47;
From Ash-Shi’a was-Sunnah, p.22
At-Tusi, in his al-Fihrist wrote:
“Abu Muhammad, dialectist and philosopher, was an Imami (shi’ite), an upright in faith,
trustworthy (thiqah)….and he is one of the scholars’ landmarks”
al-Fihrist: At-Tusi, p.98;
From Ash-Shi’a Was-Sunnah, p.22
Nurallah at-Tasturi, in his “Majaalis al-Mu’mineen” wrote:
“al-Hasan bin Musa, one of the celebrity of this sect and its scholars. He was a dialectist, a
philosopher, an Imami in faith”
Majaalis al-Mu’mineen: Nurallah At-Tasturi, p.177;
from Ash-Shi’a was-Sunnah, p.22
“Abdullah bin Saba’, was one of those who slandered Abu Bakr, Omar, Othman and the Companions
and disowned them. He claimed that it was Ali [as] who enjoined this on him. Ali arrested him, and
upon interrogation, admitted to the charge, and (Ali) ordered him to be executed. The People cried
‘O Chief of Believers ! Do you execute a man calling to your love, Ahlul-Bayt, to your allegiance,
and disowning your enemies?’ He (Ali) then exiled him to al-Mada’in (Capital of Iran back then).
Some of the knowledgeable companions of Ali [as] narrated that Abdullah bin Saba’ was a Jew
who embraced Islam and sided with Ali [as]. That he was of the opinion, at the time when he was a
Jew, claiming that Yousha’ bin Noon is after Moses. After his submission to Islam, after the demise
of the Prophet [sallalahu alayhi wa ala alihi wa salam], he claimed the same for Ali [as]. He was the
first to publicly mandate the Imamah of Ali [as], disowning his enemies, and debated his opposers.
From thence, those who oppose Shi’ism say: The origin of Shi’ism is rooted in Judaism. When
Abdullah bin Saba’ heard of the demise of Ali while in (his exile at) al-Mada’in, he said to the
announcer of the news: ‘You are a liar, if you are to bring his head in seventy bags, and brought
seventy witnesses testifying to his death, we’ll insist that he did not die nor murdered, and (he)
shall not die till he rules the globe’ “.
Firaq al-Shi’a: Nubakhti, pp. 43,44
Lets Review The Shia Doctrine of Immamate
December 4, 2009 at 2:43 am | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations, Invented myths and
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Let us review the doctrine of 12er Shia first, this is the doctrine that makes 12er Shia a SECT
different from the mainstream Muslims and different from other Shia sects:
“The doctrine of Imaamat: Apart from Prophets, there are another group of God appointed persons
called Imams. These are people who are infallible and have access to a knowledge that is not
accessible by ordinary people. The world cannot be empty of an Imam otherwise it will be
destroyed. In the Islamic context, these individuals are 12 people among the descendants of the
Holy Prophet who are appointed by no one but God to lead Muslims. Any one who chooses any
leader other than these 12 is misguided and not a complete believer. The twelfth (last) of the
above Imams is Mahdi and is alive and in occultation (now) for more than 1000 years and will come
out of his occultation when God wants”.
The above is the core belief of 12er Shia. They consider 5 articles of belief as fundamentals of
their religion. These are: Tawheed (Oneness of God) – Nabuwwat (Prophet hood) – Ma’ad (Day of
Judgement) – Adl (Justice of God) and IMAAMAT (The above doctrine).
In another way to put it they some times refer to 5 pillars of Islam to be: Prayer, Zakat, Fasting,
Hajj and Imaamat. They further hold that the latter (Imaamat) is the most important one.
The above shows the importance of Imaamat in Shia doctrine. And when I say Imaamat I don’t
mean Leadership. Certainly leadership is an important issue not only for Muslims but also for any
group of people. Imaamat here means the above specific doctrine.
Now let me tell you:
When you want to help a Shia to realize how deviated he/she is from Islam or to help a fellow
Muslim from the mainstream not to be deceived by Shia, there are TWO QUESTIONS that completely
do the job for you:
Question One: Where is the doctrine of Imaamat in Quran ?
Question Two: How does the current Imaam lead Shia?
I elaborate on each of these here:
Question One: Where is the doctrine of Imamat in Quran ?
This is a very sound question. Quran is the book of guidance and we have been told by the Prophet
that whenever we felt lost we can consult Quran and it will never betray us. The above doctrine is
not a minor issue, it is very important. It’s importance is to the extend that Shia holds that because
of not believing in this doctrine, 80% of Muslims are misguided and in fact not true believers. Well,
which verses of Quran have given us this doctrine?
Ask Shia to ONLY give you the verses with NO additions to the translation and NO Hadeeth to
support a certain interpretation of the verse and NO personal commentaries. Do this and you will
see how helpless the arguments will be.
Now when you ask this from a Shia you receive different sorts of answers (and it is interesting that
because the discussion is over the net, usually people cannot co-ordinate among themselves and
you will receive responses from Shia that are in contradiction to each other and this in turns shows
how baseless are the discussions).
Here are the most popular answers that you get:
1. There are also no verses in Quran to tell us how to pray. We learn some of our duties from
Hadeeth not Quran .
2. There are certain verses but you need to look at Hadeeth to understand their true meaning
cause we are advised to learn Quran from the Prophet and Hadeeth is his teachings.
3. Long and complicated analysis of certain verses of Quran to prove that even without the help
of Hadeeth, they are proving Imaamat.
4. There are no mention of the name of our Prophet in Bible but still Christians need to believe in
the Prophet.
5. The verses of Quran are usually general and it is not the style of Quran to name people (i.e.
Imaams)
6. Quran says “follow the Prophet”. There are Hadeeth from the Prophet that prove the doctrine
of Imaamat and this should be enough for a Muslim if he wants to follow the Prophet.
7. There are not explicit verses because if they were, Quran was in danger of fabrication
8. Finally among the classic scholars of Shia at the old times there were some of them who hold
that Quran is changed by Sahabah and that certain verses are removed from it.
9. Where in Quran it is said that Muslims should choose a khalifah by themselves?
10. Show us the names of the prophets between … and … in Quran if you think that every thing
should be in Quran .
11. It is a test that’s why it is not mentioned in Quran
12. Arguments that use few verses of Quran out of the context
13. Sunnis believe in Mahdi while he is not mentioned in Quran
14. Imaamat is not the fundamental belief of 12ers, the appointment of Ali is the fundamental of
belief.
Now I’m sure most of you realize the weakness of all the above replies but let me write a brief for
each of them. Using the same order of numbers:
1. There are also no verses in Quran to tell us how to pray. We learn some of our duties from
Hadeeth not Quran :
Prayer has been referred to EXPLICITLY and STRONGLY more than ninety times in Quran . In
each of these verses one of the aspects of prayer is covered. Many of these verses talk about
the details of prayer, like how to come prepared for prayer (ablution), prayer in travel, etc.
Certainly with such a vast and strong reference from Quran , Muslims will refer to the Prophet
to know the details. In comparison, the total number of the verses that Shia refers to for
Imaamat is no more than 5 or 6 and yet non of them can be interpreted by a non-biased mind
in the way that 12ers interpret it. In fact none of them are explicit and strong enough to prove
Imaamat doctrine. This is while Prayer is not at all comparable with Imaamat. Imaamat is the
fundamental of belief. Shia calls it one of the Osoole Din (Fundamental of religion). Prayer
however according to Shia is one of the Foroo’e Din (Subsidiary) Imamat is important
enough to convince Shia to separate themselves from the mainstream Islam. If the only
difference between Shia and the Mainstream Islam was the way they perform prayer they
would never become a sect out of the mainstream Islam.
2. There are certain verses but you need to look at Hadeeth to understand their true meaning
cause we are advised to learn Quran from the Prophet and Hadeeth is his teachings.
Why only when it comes to Imaamat, we need Hadeeth to help us? We don’t need a Hadeeth
to understand from Quran that reading prayer, performing Hajj, fasting, Jihad etc. are
obligatory upon Muslims. We don’t need Hadeeth to understand from Quran that a Muslim
needs to believe in Oneness of God and his Prophets and the Hereafter. We don’t need
Hadeeth to understand from Quran that God has angels, there were Prophets in the history of
mankind and some of them had books, and that the destiny of man is in the hands of God. All
of the sudden when it comes to Imaamat, Hadeeth becomes a vital tool to understand Quran .
Quran how ever does not need a tool to be understandable. It is written in Quran that this
book has been made easy to get guidance from. It is true that the Prophet explains certain
verses of Quran but explaining is different from interpreting. Explaining means giving the
details. Interpreting means giving the meaning. Quran needs no tool to be meaningful
otherwise it wasn’t the book of guidance. Also there are many contradictory Hadeeth in
explaining verses of Quran and at the end of the day it is impossible to verify exactly which
ones are authentic. How could God expect people of our time to use Hadeeth to understand
the MEANING of Quran? Is this the way that God says in Quran that Truth and False are
separated and clear evidences have been shown? I don’t think so.
3. Long and complicated analysis of certain verses of Quran to prove that even without the help
of Hadeeth, they are proving Imaamat.
Same argument goes here. Quran is not a book of riddles and puzzles. God does not expect an
ordinary Muslim to have a search in Quran and have a professional analysis of the verses of
Quran to understand what should be his belief and what are his duties as a Muslim. Of course
it is very beneficial to analyse the verses of Quran to understand more from it. Quran is like
an ocean. However to say that our fundamental belief can only derived from Quran after such
an analysis is in contradiction with the use of Quran as a book of guidance. (For a detailed
review of the verses that 12ers usually use and the discussion of the way they attempt to
misinterpret these verses please refer to my other article: “The Quran refutes the Shiite
concept of Imamate.” and this article also The Qur’ân and The Imamah
4. There are no mention of the name of our Prophet in Bible but still Christians need to believe in
the Prophet
I appreciate that this justification is very out of line but because I have heard it, I am going to
address it here: Firstly we believe that Bible in fact gave the information about our Prophet
but these verses were removed (Quran tells us). However the most important thing is that
Christians are not expected to accept the Prophet only based on their Bible. Christians along
with other human being are given a brand new guidance that is Quran. It is Quran that
challenges Christians not merely their own book. The last point is that the comparison is
illogical. We are asking for proof of the Shia doctrine from our book of guidance, what does it
have to do with the proof of our Prophet in the Bible?! There are many belief that Christians
have but are not in their Bible, we however as Muslims have to disregard any belief that is not
supported by Quran. On the other hand, another misunderstanding here is that we are not
asking about the name of a particular Imaam. We are asking about the CONCEPT of Imaamat.
The concept of prophethood is well established in Bible (both old and new testaments). It is
only after the establishment of this concept in the Christian holy book that they are expected
to believe in ANOTHER prophet that is Muhammad (PBUH). The CONCEPT of Imaam (in the way
that 12er Shia put it) however has not even referred to (in a convincing way) in Bible, let
alone being established. Therefore from this respect too, the comparison is illogical.
5. The verses of Quran are usually general and it is not the style of Quran to name people (i.e.
Imaams)
No body asked for names. Only some general verses that give us the above doctrine.
Something as simple as: “Oh Muslims, be aware that there will be certain Imaams for you after
the Prophet from his generation who are appointed by God and you need to follow them”. It is
as if (God Forbidden) God was worried about talking about Imaamat explicitly. Having said
that, we have the name of Zaid (Ra) in Quran who was a SAHÂBAH and his name is there to
refer to a very minor issue. It is not unfair to ask for a single verse with the name of Ali in it if
(according to Shia) he had such an important role (Imaam).
6. Quran says “follow the Prophet”. There are Hadeeth from the Prophet that prove the doctrine
of Imaamat and this should be enough for a Muslim if he wants to follow the Prophet.
Again why is that only for this article of faith we need to consult Hadeeth? Let’s test
something. Take Quran in your hand and open it by chance. I can guarantee that no matter
where it is opened, few verses before or after are about one of the Oneness of God, Prophet
hood, Day of Judgement, Destiny of Human Being, or Duties of Muslims. Now how far you need
to go in order to find a verse that (with the help of certain Hadeeth) could be interpreted as
Imaamat in the 12er doctrine? How come for our other fundamental believes Quran is quite
direct, even for our main duties as Muslims but when it comes to Imaamat, we need to refer
to Hadeeth? This is inconsistency and God is far greater than having inconsistency in his
perfect book. Hadeeth is not the second volume of Quran. Authentic Hadeeth is explanation of
Quran not a secondith to see what is our religion? This is even more difficult when bare in
mind that for every Hadeeth that Shia use to prove Imaamat, there are other Hadeeth that are
in contradiction with it. In fact even Hadeeth (as a whole) are not structured in a way that
could prove Imaamat. Such a justification is in fact the main reason for having different sects
in Islam. Zaidis too have their own Hadeeth, same for Ismailis and same for Bahayees. All have
the same problem, they are trying to understand their religion from the sources other than
Quran. Please note that I am not denying the importance of Hadeeth (I am not a Quranist).
However believing that certain parts of our fundamental belief has to be derived from
Hadeeth rather than Quran is far different from using Hadeeth as a source to Prophet’s
Sunnah. There are no use of discussing the ahaadeeth of the prophet with 12ers when it comes
to the fundamental issues. To all Muslims except those who have made sects the fundamentals
of belief need to be derived from Quran, if they are not then either they are wrong or they are
not fundamental and thus not acceptable reasons for forming a specific sect to be separated
from the rest of the Muslims.
7. There are not explicit verses because if they were, Quran was in danger of fabrication.
This is actually guessing God’s intentions and is very close to Kufr. From where one could come
to this conclusion? Is there any verse in Quran that says God has not revealed certain things
because if he does, you will change Quran? In fact the verses of Quran are supportive to the
opinion that nothing has been left out for us from Quran and that God keeps Quran safe and
that the Prophet should not be worried about delivering the verses. This is in fact attributing
Taqqiyyah to God himself (God forbid).
8. Finally among the classic scholars of Shia at the old times there were some of them who hold
that Quran is changed by Sahabah and that certain verses are removed from it.
In fact this is the most logical reply that one can get. However no Shia scholar these days refer
to this response. They have changed their minds about this opinion (although among them
there are still some individuals that do not deny the possibility). However every one knows
that this is opposed to the verse of Quran where God promises to keep the book. Also if this is
the case then how we know that there weren’t some verses in Quran in support of (say)
Baha’ollah or (say) George w. Bush? By this assumption no basis will remain to hold any opinion
as a Muslim. On the other hand, God could reveal as much as needed about Imaamat (like 98
verses about prayer). Just imagine how difficult would it be if some one wanted to remove all
the verses about prayer from Quran, God could do the same for Imaamat.
9. Where in Quran it is said that Muslims should choose a khalifah by themselves?
Firstly it is not appropriate to answer a question with a question. Shia needs to adjust their
doctrine with Quran and only after that it is appropriate to ask such a question.
Nevertheless this question only shows the misunderstanding of some brothers about the belief of
the mainstream Muslims. Believing in Khulafaaye Raashedin is not a fundamental element of Islam.
According to the main stream Muslims, there are only 6 Articles of Faith and 5 pillars of Islam and
believing in khilaafath of Aboobakr is not part of either of them.
Any groups of people tend to elect some one as their leader. And the rational and most reasonable
way to do so is by election. This is a routine social/political practice. Certainly no system of public
election was established at that time and the election of Aboobakr was done through negotiation of
present people. You might think that it was not a good choice or that not all qualified people were
presented at the time, that’s your opinion but it has nothing to do with looking for evidences in
Quran about it. It’s just a routine social practice that was and is and will be done in any society and
no logical mind would expect a divine evidence for that.
Having said that, once the SAHÂBAH of the holy prophet agree on a great SAHÂBAH like Aboobakr
(RA) to become the Khalifah, then it is the duty of all Muslims to obey him for the sake of Islam and
unity.
If a Shia asks me what is my proof about this, I will give him/her a source that Shia holds as a very
strong proof:
Nahjolbalaqah, letter No. 6 of Imaam Ali to Mo’aviah (note that in some versions of Nahjul balagha.
This letter is few numbers before or after): “People who did Bayat to Aboobakr and Omar, did
bayat with me in the same way. So the one who is present cannot select any one else for
Khalifah and the one who is absent cannot disobey people in their selection. Shurah belongs to
Mohajer and Ansar, so if they gather around a person and appoint him as their Imaam this is to
the satisfaction of Allah. If any one disapprove them on this or innovate something about it he
should be taken back to the people who he has left (by accepting the appointed Khalifah), and
if he refused to do so people has to fight with him as he is going to a path other than of
Muslims.”
(Note that in the Shia websites like al-islam.org, certain words have been inserted in the
translation -like the word “suppose” – without putting them in the brackets in an attempt to change
the meaning of the text.)
Now it’s up to the Shia brothers and sisters whether they want to attribute Taqyah or lie or politics
or what ever to their Imam and whether they like to justify his comment in the same way that they
justify verses of Quran.
(also please bear in your mind that we have an explicit verse in Quran that says “va amrohom
shoora baynahom”, (and their affairs are done by consultancy between them). Surely the
question of leadership is one of the affairs of Muslims. However I won’t use this verse to prove
anything about Khilaafath in Islam. Unlike the Shia brothers and sisters, I am quite cautious about
playing Lego with the verses of Quran)
So let us not compare apple with orange. Imaamat doctrine is a fundamental belief of Shia,
election or selection of Khulafaaye Raashedin is just a routine and common socio-political
practice.
On the other hand, let’s look at the present situation is Iran. Is there any divine command about
how to establish a leadership in the occultation of Mahdi? Let’s remember that there were no
religious system of governing after the occultation of Mahdi for about 1000 years after the recent
revolution of Iran and emerging of the theory of Welayate Faqih. Those who know about Shia and
Iran appreciate that Welayate Faqih of Khomeini was only a theory that he derived from some
ahaadeeth. Not all Shia scholars agree with that (like Khoiee and his followers). Among the classic
Shia scholars only few had referred to this theory and most like Sheikh Ansari had the opinion that
it is difficult to derive such a theory from ahaadeeth (refer to Makaseb of Sheikh Ansari). Also
among those recent scholars who accept the theory there are un-agreements about the extend of
the theory and that how it could be put in practice (Like Montazeri, late Shirazi, etc.). So again as I
referred to in the article, Shia too ended up with the same situation as the mainstream Muslims
that is to elect a leader by themselves in the absence of any direct divine command.
1. Show us the names of the prophets between … and … in Quran if you think that every thing
should be in Quran
The Shia who sends this question cannot realise what is the main issue. The issue is not about
NAMES. It is about a CONCEPT.. The concept of prophethood has been addressed in Quran in
many verses and there are a few verses that tells Muslims that they need to believe in all the
prophets. Allah has given use the story of the main prophets and have left the story of others.
There is no need to know the NAME of the (as they say) 124,000 prophets in order to obey
Allah. The question is about the concept of Imaamat not the names of Imaams. Quran has
established the concept of prophethood and its function for us through many verses. There is
however not a single verse in Quran that explicitly tells us that there is another position called
Imaamat which refers to infallible God appointed individuals who are not prophets and that
their existence are necessary and there will be such Imams after the prophet.
2. It is a test that’s why it is not mentioned in Quran
This claim puts the function of Quran as a guidance under a serious doubt. By this claim there
is no use to read Quran to get any guidance because who knows maybe there is a fundamental
part of your belief that is not mentioned in Quran because God wants to test you! By the same
token Bahayees claim that Quran talks about their prophet Baha’Ollah. When you ask them but
where in Quran they will show you some verses that have nothing to do with their claim. When
you say but these verses are not clear about your claim they say Oh because God is testing
you, Nice!
This is again playing with divinity. Who are we to decide for God that what is a test and what
is not a test? The prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH) was also a test but there are many verses
in Quran that directly tells people that Muhammad (PBUH) is a prophet. A test is different
from a puzzle. God says in Quran that he makes things clear for people. Even a teacher first
makes it clear for his students that what is the material of exam and then designs a test based
on those material. We need to read Quran to see what are the materials that God is going to
ask us about in the day of judgement. Is ‘believing in the doctrine of Imaamat‘ one of the
materials that Quran commanded us about? God makes things clear for you and sends you
enough evidences and then test you to see if you can be humble enough to obey his guidance.
The claim that this sorts of answers are making is like we expect Quran to be empty of any
verses about the day of judgement and then say that God wants to test people to see if they
can GUESS or DEDUCT that there is a day of judgement. No way, God makes it clear in Quran
that we need to believe in him and his prophet and to do good things and to pray etc. and the
test is whether we obey these commands. God does not play game with us. He does not expect
us to solve puzzles and riddles. I wonder why Shia cannot see this in another way around.
Imaamat is not explicitly referred to in Quran but still Shia insists to be separate from the
mainstream Muslims because of this doctrine. Aren’t they under a test by Allah? Allah knows
best.
3. Arguments that use few verses of Quran out of the context Here Shia tries to refer to few
verses in which the words Imaam or Khalifa are used. It is interesting that most of the verses
in this category are those that even Shia scholars do not use them to prove their doctrine
cause Shia tafasir are clear about the commonly agreed meaning of these verses. There are
however non-Scholar Shia youths, those who spend all their youth over internet debating with
others that use these verses. To be more specific, these are the verses where the term
Khalifa/Kholafa have been used or the verses that the term Imaam has been used in the
meaning other than Leader. The Shia friends simply think any reference to Imaam or khalifa
means what they think. The best way to answer them in this category is to refer them to their
own tafasir like Almizan and Majmaolbayan. Also to remind him of the warning that Allah gives
us in Quran about taking the verses out of their context (Arabic: Yoharrefonal Kalema An
Mawaze’ehi)
4. Sunnies believe in Mahdi while he is not mentioned in Quran:
Firstly the concept of Mahdi for the mainstream Muslims is totally different from the concept
that Shia holds for Mahdi. This is another issue discussing of which will extend the length of
the article. The Shia who brings this justification has confused his own understanding of the
concept of Mahdi with the mainstream’s understanding of the concept. However the more
important thing is that we cannot compare the belief of the mainstream Muslims about Mahdi
with the belief of Imaamat in Shia. Imaamat is one of the main articles of faith for Shia but
belief in Mahdi is not one of the main articles of belief of the mainstream Muslims. The
articles of belief of the mainstream Muslims have been listed by the scholars and
Alhamdolellah all of them are based on explicit verses of Quran. These are 6 (or 7 depending
on the phrasing) articles of belief: Belief in God and his Oneness – Belief in Angels – Belief in
God’s books (Bible, Quran, etc.) – Belief in God’s messengers = Believe in the day of
resurrection= Believe in Qadar (i.e. every thing and event has been written). All of these are
derived form explicit verses of Quran. The very reason that we cannot see THE BELIEF IN
MAHDI being listed among the articles of belief of the mainstream Muslims is that this has not
been commanded and explained and established in Quran in the same way that other articles
of belief are established in Quran.
5. Imaamat is not the fundamental belief of 12ers, the appointment of Ali is the fundamental of
belief.
If one cannot appreciate (in line with the conscious of all the scholars of Shia) that Ali being
appointed by the prophet is the direct consequence of the concept of Imaamat and that
Imaamat is the core belief of 12er Shia that’s fine. I would ask the same question about Ali.
The question is a generic one that can be applied to any fundamental of belief:
Where are explicit verses of Quran without any Tafsir or Hadeeth that clearly command us
about what ever is the fundamental of 12ers’ belief that distinguishes them from the
mainstream Muslims, being Imaamat or the Khilaafat of Ali after the holy prophet. There is no
escape from this question as long as one believes that Quran is the ultimate guidance. And if a
Muslim is not able to find this in Quran then by God he/she needs to answer God in the day of
judgement that why he/she separate him/herself from the mainstream Muslims.
So as you see, none of the above responses are really answering the question. These responses
are actually escaping from the truth. Give Quran (a translation) to an English man with no idea
about Islam and ask him to read it and write down 5 important articles of Islamic belief based on
his understanding from Quran. I can imagine that he will write down oneness of God, Prophet-hood,
the Day of Judgment, perhaps the rewards and punishments, prayer, Zakat, … but is there any
chance that he writes the doctrine of Imaamat as 12ers put it? I don’t think so.
The very reason that Shia needs to include lots of explanation and commentaries and Hadeeth to
prove his doctrine from verses of Quran proves that Quran is not explicit and direct about Imaamat
and when a book of guidance is not explicit and direct about some thing, that “thing” CANNOT be a
fundamental of guidance and people who have chosen to be separated from the mainstream
Muslims because of that “thing” are responsible for their sectarianism attitude.
The above is the weakest link of 12er Shia and repeating it over and over is the only ways that we
could make some of them realize this weakness. Interestingly enough further discussion with Shia
about this issue only results in completing this argument by adding more justifications from Shia
side to the above. The more the number of justifications the more apparent the gap and the false
in the logic of Shia theory of Imaamat. Verily as Quran says (25:30), THE complain of the Prophet
about his people in the Day of Judgment is that they put Quran aside and ignored it. While I think
that we are all subject to this complain and we all need to re-establish the role of Quran in our
belief, I should say that to me 12er Shia are one of the best examples of such complain.
Question Two: How does the current Imaam leads Shia?
The first question should be enough for any one to consider 12er Shia as a group that is biased from
the original Islam. However it is helpful to have a word about the concept of occultation of Mahdi.
When you ask a Shia that why we need an infallible Imaam, he says we need it because it is not
justice from God to leave us without any divine leadership. When you say okay then where is this
divine leader now, the Shia will say: Oh he has been hidden for more than 1000 years and will come
out near the end of the world. Nice!
This means that the theory of Justice of God in terms of guidance worked only for about 300 years
(before the occultation)!
Imaam means a leader, how can you be led when the leader is not contactable and accessible? It is
a conscious of Shia that no one has direct contact with Mahdi during his greater occultation (they
believe he had about 70 years smaller occultation during which direct contact was possible). So
what is the point of all this debate?
Shia believes in Imaamat and accused others for not having a leadership system, well at the end of
the day we all ended up at the same point didn’t we? Shia had no leadership system up to the
Iranian revolution and the system of Welayate Faqih that is the leadership system in the current
Iran is nothing but a man made system in which people elect certain scholars to elect a leader for
them. Well this is exactly what happened in Saqufeye Bani Saedeh when people elected Hazrat Abu
Bakr, so, what is all the fuss about? Some of the Muslims have elected Osamah Ben Laden to be
their leader, does Khameneyee the leader of Shia has any divine advantages to Osamah?
The point is that if Shia had a live Imaam who was supposedly infallible and had access to extra
ordinary knowledge than we did not need this much waste of time. Instead of all these debates I
would have asked a Shia to take me to his infallible Imaam and there surely the Imaam could prove
me his right by his extra ordinary knowledge and attitude. This is not the case now. If some one
becomes a Shia these days, nothing will be changed for him in terms of guidance. He/she will
combine the prayers and attend ceremonies for Hussain and pay Khums to scholars and rub his feet
in ablution and start a debate over Internet by a user name like Ex-Sunni but nothing in terms of
being directed by a divine Imam. So what? Shia says it is obligatory to know the Imaam of your
time, but from the so-called Imaam of their time what do they know? Anything more than his name
and the fact that he will not come out till near the end of the world? So is it all about knowing a
name rather than actual guidance?
We are fighting over a closed file (I hold respect and do not say over a … body).
The occultation of Imaam is in 100% in variance with the very basis of the reason Shia claims we
need an Imaam. The Shia belief is in fact not self consistent.
Honestly I have not received any considerable reply for this question to elaborate on, let me only
address two semi-replies:
1. The guidance of Imaam is not restricted to direct guidance. There are other functions of
Imaamat that we cannot fully understand except that his existence is a must for universe.
2. Imaam’s benefit in occultation is like the benefit if sun when it’s behind the cloud.
I answer them in the same order:
1. The guidance of Imaam is not restricted to direct guidance. There are other functions of
Imaamat that we cannot fully understand except that his existence is a must for universe.
This is just a philosophical argument (being affected by pre-Islamic belief) that has absolutely no
support from Quran and Hadeeth. We have been told that certain angels are arranging certain
things for the universe but we have heard nothing about such an extra ordinary claim. If this is the
case then who was the Imaam immediately before the Prophet? Did the Prophet ever meet him?!
And why we need some one being alive in the earth to do the job? Imaam Reza the 8th Imaam of
Shia said to people (who thought his father is not dead but is alive and in occultation) a very
interesting point: “if Allah wanted to extend the life of any of his servants for the need of people
to him, he would have extended the life of his Prophet” (Kashshi -a Shia author- Marefatorrejal P.
379).
Furthermore by the above reply in fact the 12ers are stepping down and surrender their main
argument that says in every time there is a need for an Imaam to direct and lead people (i.e.
tangible direction and leading not philosophical direction). In fact the earlier 12er scholars nearer
to the beginning of the time that the 12ers refer to as the greater occultation of Mahdi has used
the same argument to prove the existence of Mahdi. They even go as far to say that this ‘obvious’
argument suffices them from referring to any ahaadeeth to prove the existence of Mahdi.
Let’s see what is the argument of one of the classic gurus of 12ers:
“… Rationality tells us that surely there should be an infallible leader at every time who is not
relying on people in matters and science -of religion- because it is impossible that people live in a
time when there are no leaders to bring them closer to good and farther from bad and every noncomplete human needs some one to advise him and every oppressor needs some one to control him
… and there should be some one who teaches those who don’t know and waken up ignorant, advise
misguided and perform the Hodood (Punishments of Shariat) … and solve the differences of opinion
and appoint governors and defend the borders and protect properties … and gather people for Eids
and collective prayers. (Ershad by Mofid – Section 36).
As it can be seen, this scholar who was one of the ones who established 12er doctrine clearly says
that there always need to an infallible Imaam at all times who could practically (and in a tangible
way) direct and guide people (look at the bold words). It seems that to people like Mofid who was
quite close to the beginning of what 12ersa refer to as the greater occultation of Mahdi. The
expectation was that the occultation will not last for a long period and Mahdi will appear shortly
otherwise all the above argument (knowing that Mahdi is not accessible) had no points.
The above is the understanding of other classic 12er scholars as well but I preferred to quote from
one of the main ones that is considered as one of the pillars of the 12er scholars.
As you see, the Mahdi that is the subject of our debate with 12ers is the one that the classic 12er
Shia believed in as some one who practically and in a tangible way leads people. If an Imaam could
be hidden and not available to people then what is the point of arguing for the necessity of having
a God appointed leader at the first place?
To change the function of Mahdi to be able to justify his long occultation is nothing but changing
the whole story to be able to escape from the truth. It is exactly like changing the function of
Quran (from the book of guidance to a book that is only completed by Hadeeth and needs the
explanation of 12er Imams) to be able to justify why the 12er theory of Imaamat is not mentioned
in Quran.
1. Imaam’s benefit in occultation is like the benefit if sun when it’s behind the cloud.
This is nothing but a poetic justification of the problem. What is exactly meant by sun behind
clouds? Even sun behind the clouds has many benefits. You can still find your way when the
sun is behind the cloud. However is there any clue from Mahdi now days to direct the Shia in
Iran in any way? There are lots of controversy issues in Iran these days among the scholars in
terms of Islam and modernism, the extend of the power of Walye Faqih (the leader), etc.
There are certain Shia scholars (Mojtaheds) that are in home arrest because they are not agree
with the current policies and leader. Was there any letters, voices, what ever from Mahdi to
clear up a bit of these difficulties? Which one of these Mojtaheds who are in sever
disagreement with each other are directed and led by Mahdi and how are the 12er people
suppose to realise that?
There is a difference between a fairy tale and reality and I hope some Shia could realize it.
To conclude, I think by refraining from entering never ending debates about minor issues and
sticking to the major issue both Shia and mainstream Muslims will be able to come to conclusions
faster. I tried to explain in my article that the main issue in debate with 12er Shia is their doctrine
of Imaamat.
I further described that the best never answered question for Shia is to ask them for prove for their
doctrine from Quran (simply by pasting the verse with no commentary) and to ask them about the
practicability of their doctrine in the absent of an accessible Imaam. These remain as two severe
problems with Shia belief and no answer could be given for them unless new verses of Quran come
down and their so called Imaam of Time come out of his occultation. As I don’t think that any of
these would happen I had no problems in posting this here knowing that Shia brothers and sisters
will also read it. There are no hidden plans. These are facts.
And Allah knows best.
May Allah Guide Us All and forgive our sins.
Student.
http://answersforshiafriend.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/lets-review-the-shia-doctrine-ofimmamate/
Imam is Controlling Bermuda Triangle
November 25, 2009 at 10:09 pm | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations | Leave a comment
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Brother leo (c)
Dear Muslims, as you are well aware that rafidhis are worried about sudden disappearance of their
Imam, who went in “hiding” due to fear of losing his life. In order to avoid the obvious
embarrassment, the rafidhis keep narrating fairy-tales of his possible locations, latest being that
their 12th imam is in “bermuda triangle”
From shia site ziaraat.com
” Imam’s ghaibat is described by the Aimma like that of Prophet Yusuf (A.S.) who was amongst his
brothers yet they did not recognise him.
Imam is known to meet a believer on 3 occasions:
1. At the time of trouble.
2. He is present at every Hajj.
3. He attends the funeral of every believer who has no religious obligations pending on him/her e.g.
Khums
During this time he continues to guide. Numerous letters have been received from him by (to quote
a few) Ishaq bin Yaqub, Sheikh Mufeed…
. It is reported that 30 people all over the world meet with him regularly.
It is also reported that Jaziratul Khadra (green islands or Bermuda Triangle) is a vast land in
Imam’s kingdom occupied by a large number of Shia and governed by Imam’s family.”
Ziaraat.com – Imam Mehdi(a.s.) – About
A powerful Empire behind the iron curtain
There are reliable traditions reported by great Shia scholars about the huge number of inhabitants
living in a group of islands known as the JAZIRATUL KHADHRA (The Green Island). These islands are
totally cut off from the rest of the world by a large sea known as Bahrul Abyadh (White Sea ).
There is a long story narrated by Muhammad bin Ali Alawi Hussaini, reported in an authoritative
book Al – Najmus Thaqib. In this story, a reliable person tells in full detail, how he happened to
visit these islands totally governed by the Imam Zaman (as). He told that there are large cities
in these islands, highly developed and advanced. The names of these cities mentioned in the
book are as follows: (1) Mubaraka. (2) Raequa. (3) Sophia. (4) Zaloom. (5) Panatis
These islands cover about 1,140,000 square kilometers area which is bigger than France, Germany,
Greece, japan, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and many other countries of the world. These reports
show that a powerful system is working in this part of the world which can capture, destroy or
jam the most advanced ships and aircraft of the world.
we can rationally arrive at some useful conclusions.
1. That these groups of islands, Green Islands or Bermuda Islands, may be occupied and governed
by the Holy Imam Al- Mehdi (as) and his people, where he has established a powerful Islamic
government.
2. The Imam’s country is totally invisible and is protected and monitored by computerized
electromagnetic devices that produce intense light beams.
There are some highly sensitive clockwork equipments, which can accurately ascer tain the identity
of all the passing ships and airplanes. As reported above, they allow many ships and airplane to go
while stop some in accordance with the programmed instructions to divert them to the desired
destination for reason not known to us. Some pilots who were allowed to escape say that they
believe the country has highly developed technology which can easily destroy or interfere all kinds
of ships, airplane, radar and electronic navigational systems.
3. The Imam’s country, behind the iron curtain, is immensely developed in science and
technology
Basic Belief
Prostration to Fatima
November 25, 2009 at 3:13 am | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations | Leave a comment
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This is from the book titled ‘anwar az-zahraa’ :
Q. Is it allowed to make sujood (prostration) to Faatima ?
A. It has come in narrations that it is a MUST to make sujood after the salaat [prayer] seeking
assistance [help] by Faatima az-zahraa (may Allaah be pleased with her).
And to say 100 hundred times while in sujood : ‘Ya Mawlaaya , Yaa Faatima , Agheethnee’ [O My
Master , O Faatima , Aid me]
And from the customary and natural things with us , that when we mentione her name and seek
assitance from her ; then there is no way except that we have to prostrate to her. This is because it is
not intellectually correct that a person speaks with Faatima and directs himself to her and seeks from
her – and then he prostrates to someone other than her.
This is because we cannot shun away from this reality, and that is if there is no prohibition to
prostrate to other than Allaah [then its okay] , this is because we dont have any proof showing the
impermissibility of prostration to other than Allaah. …’
To the end of their heresy.
Shirazi quluw in Mahdi
November 25, 2009 at 3:12 am | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations, Shia Mahdi | Leave a
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From the book titled ‘Dua wal Ziyaarah [supplication & ritual visits]‘ : sayyid Asshirazi says :
Chapter on Visiting The Imaam Mahdi may Allaah hasten his noble relief :
‘Know that the Imaam hujjah [the proof] indeed he is living and present , and he one who is entitled and is obligatory on all humans- to obey him , and is obligatory on all humans to believe in his
leadership ; the one in whose right hand stood [the control of] the heavens and the earths.
It is a must on humans to stand to him in manner of discipline just as the public behaves infront of the
leaders. And from the comprehensivenes of that : is to take him as an intermediary between a
person and Allaah, and to visit him by everyperson near and far, and to wait for his coming-out.
And if one is given the facilitation to be among his army, and to be from those who call to him, then
he has attained success of the world and the here-after.
And it has already been mentioned that the reward of visiting one of the Imaams is like the reward of
visiting the Prophet (sallaAllaahu alayhi wasallam)…..”
Visiting grave of Hussain more important for them than haj
November 23, 2009 at 6:15 pm | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations | Leave a comment
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Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi taala wa barakatu.
It’s not a secret for moslems that haj to Kaaba is obligation upon those who have funds once in
their life.
Shaykh of shias Abbas al-Qummi in his “Nafasul mahmum” at page 431 said:
It is related in traditions from Imam Ja’far as Sadiq (a.s) that, “The wealthy should visit the grave
of Imam Husain (a.s) twice every year, while the indigent should visit once every year”. He (a.s)
said, “Those who live near should visit atleast once every month, while those who live far away,
once every three years”. It is also related from him that, “It is not fair to avoid it for more than
four years”.
So as we can clearly see importance of pilgrimage to grave of Hussain (r.a) more great for them
than pilgrimage to haj.
Who is owner of paradise?
November 11, 2009 at 2:23 am | Posted in Imams and imamate in the light of shia narrations | Leave a comment
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Allah Taala said in Quran:
[Shakir 4:57] And (as for) those who believe and do good deeds, We will make them enter gardens
beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them for ever; they shall have therein pure mates, and We
shall make them enter a dense shade.
[Shakir 4:122] And (as for) those who believe and do good, We will make them enter into gardens
beneath which rivers flow, to abide therein for ever; (it is) a promise of Allah, true (indeed), and
who is truer of word than Allah?
[Shakir 29:9] And (as for) those who believe and do good, We will most surely cause them to enter
among the good.
So moslems from all world believe that Allah is the One and only who could make someone enter
heaven or hell.
Let us see what shias say.
Al-Qummi in “Ilal ush sharae”:
Abu Abdullaah said : ‘When it is the Day of Judgement, a pulpit will be put in place of which all the
creation will see it : and a man will stand on it and on his right hand there is an angel and on his left
hand there is angel standing with him.
Then the one on his right hand will announce : ‘ O congregation of creatures this is Alee ibn Abee
Taalib the owner of paradise : he enters into it whoever he wills.
Then the one on his left hand will announce : ‘ O congregation of creatures this is Alee ibn Abee
Taalib the owner of hell fire : he enters into it whoever he wills.’
Ayatullat Dastghaib Shirazi
“Moral values of Quran”
Chapter “Ali with his own bier” (p 257)
Harith Hamadani had become very old, bent at the waist and ill. He reached Ali with much
difficulty and said how much I desired to look at your beautiful face, O Master! I have come to you
from a long distance, as I was deprived of this honor due to my old age and weakness. Ali told him,
“O Harith! Everyone who dies sees me. I tell you that you will also see me near Sirat bridge (in the
Hereafter). I will be there do distribute Paradise and hell to people. I place the righteous in
Paradise and the evil people in hell. If any of my friend is in hell, I fetch him out from the fire.”
Shirazi: Soul of Ali was fully divine
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And we are going deeper to the book “Moral values of Quran” of Ayatullat
Dastghaib Shirazi.
In chapter “At the bedside of thousands every moment” (p 256) he said:
Ali appeared at thousands of places. The soul or spirit is one but it is fully divine, it is all
encompassing or all covering and all encircling, able to become manifest wherever desired. As
interpreted by Allamah Majlisi, it is possible that, at every moment. Thousands of people may be
about to die and Ali may be present at their bedside. Doubtlessly he appears there with the same
facsimile body. This power and encirclement given by God to him enables him to fight with many
people at one time and he can also use the sword, the spear and the arrow, all at the same time.
Say: He is the “demonstrator of strange things” (Mazharul Ajaaib) and “the demonstrator of the
extraordinary” (Mazharul Gharaaib). His surrounding is beyond our imagination and we cannot know
how it happens. You and I are parts; Ali is the whole. He can cover the entire world.
One night Ali was a guest at forty places. As per a narration, Jibraeel said, “O Messenger of Allah!
Last night Ali was with us at this place and also at that place.” This is surrounding or encirclement.
I wonder is it possible for this shia author to say more clear that Ali in his understanding is Allah?
Ali came to his own bier. Miracle authenticated by ayatollat
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And again Ayatullat Dastghaib Shirazi and his book “Moral values of Quran”.
In chapter “Ali with his own bier” (pp 256-257) this author wrote:
Like the instance mentioned yesterday, when before the call for Morning prayers, they moved the
mortal remains of our Master, Ali and when Imam Hasan and Abi Abdullah were behind the bier it
rose up by itself, Angels Jibraeel and Mikaeel held the front and Hasan and Husain were behind.
They brought the bier out of the house. Zainab, Umme Kulthum and the remaining women also
wanted to accompany but Husain did not allow and said, “All of you may return and be calm.” This
narration is authentically related from Imam Hasan: As we approached Najaf, a rider whose
fragrance drew my attention, but who was masked said: You are Hasan, the elder son and you are
the legatee of this master? Imam Hasan says, “Yes, I am.” He asked again, “Is this Husain ‘Abul
Aimmah’ (Father of Imams)?” He said, “Yes, he is Husain, Razeeul Hikmah (the nursed one of
wisdom).” Then he said, “Please give this bier to me and you may go.” Imam Hasan says, “I told
him, ‘We cannot do so. Our father made a will to us that we should not entrust his bier to anyone
except Jibraeel and Khizr. Who are you, Sir? Please remove your mask that we may know who you
are before submitting to you.’” Suddenly the masked person removed his mask and we saw that he
was the Victorious Lion of Allah, Ali bin Abi Talib. Then he said these words, “As I am at the
bedside of every dying person, should I not be present at my own funeral?”
Grave a place of refuge
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Salam alaikum.
When moslem is in trouble, where does he seek for refuge? No doubt he seeks for it in His God
Almighty! And who else could give a refuge from a problems if not Allah. In His book Taala ordered
us to seek reguge in Him.
He said: seek refuge in Allah (41:36); Therefore seek refuge in Allah (40:56).
But where does shias seeking for refuge? What is a refuge for them?
Let us find answer in the book “Moral values of Quran” by Ayatullat Dastghaib Shirazi.
In chapter “Ali’s grave and hunting animals” at page 259, author said:
O Shias of Ali! Ali’s grave is a place of refuge. Any animal going there gets protection. O God! Give
our grave a place near it. Put us in Ali’s shelter. Even if our body is not there, kindly make our soul
adjacent to it. Join us together. How fine are the words of Shaykh Abbas Qummi in Mafatih when he
says: “More protective than the helper of the locusts”“
Who is the purest and holiest creation?
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Salam alaikum.
Ask any muslim, who was the purest and holiest creation of Allah? And he would replay: Prophet
Muhammad (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa sallam).
Let us ask same question from shia scholar.
Ayatolla Dastghaib Shirazi in his book “Moral values of Quran”, in chapter “Birth in Kaaba
martyrdom in mosque”,
wrote:
The event of Ali’s birth has been quite extraordinary in every way from beginning to end. God
wants to introduce Ali’s greatness to the world right from the time of his birth. Ali is not just a
man like you. Fatima binte Asad is about to deliver the child. She is holding the cover of Ka’ba on
the loftiest part of the earth in the Holy mosque of Mecca. She prays to Allah. The wall of Ka’ba
splits. Many Sunni scholars also have testified this. Couplets in Arabic poetry also are sung about
this in every age since then. Fatima binte Asad enters Ka’ba. Its door is closed in such a way that
nobody can go inside. The opening of the wall remains sealed for three days and nights and then
the wall splits again at the same place and Fatima binte Asad comes out. In her hands is the
newborn Asadullah (Lion of God) Ali bin Abi Talib. The blessed lady had been the guest of God for
three days getting the food of Paradise. How pure and holy! Ali is born by the Will of God in the
holiest place on the earth. The newborn also is the purest and holiest creation. God Himself
names him Ali. Till Judgment Day whoever will hear the name of Ali, will realize and remember
that he is from the unseen world.
Points to discuss:
1) Allah Taala said in Quran: (17:93) “Or you have a house of Zukhruf (like silver and pure gold), or
you ascend up into the sky, and even then we will put no faith in your ascension until you bring
down for us a Book that we would read.” Say (O Muhammad َ‫)صلى هللا عليه و سل‬: “Glorified (and
Exalted) be my Lord [(Allah) above all that evil they (polytheists) associate with Him]! Am I
anything but a man, sent as a Messenger?”
Dastghaib Shirazi says: Ali is not just a man like you
2) We believe prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa salam) was purest and holiest creation.
Dastghaib Shirazi says: The newborn (Ali ibn Abu Talib) also is the purest and holiest creation.
Just think about these questions.
Ali is a great name of Allah
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Salam alaikum.
Indeed blasphemy of shia authors has no limits.
Ayatullat Dastghaib Shirazi in his book “Moral values of Quran” etitled a chapter (pp 235-236):
“ALI IS THE GREAT SIGN, A PERFECT WORD AND THE GREAT NAME OF ALLAH”.
In this chapter this shia scholar wrote:
All the parts and components of the living universe and of the entire existence from earth to
sky are Names of Allah. But God has a Great Name (Isme Azam), the original greatness, which is
the greatest Signs, the highest of all His words. This great word is the Victorious Lion of Allah,
Ali bin Abi Talib. Now about the meaning of ‘perfect’ and great. Every rank (from the spiritual
viewpoint) in the ranks of existence is hidden from the physical eye. But the capabilities of seeing
through the inner eye are different. Almighty Allah has made His Might and Wisdom manifest
through Ali in such a way that the creation recognizes God as He should be recognized, through the
blessings of friendship with Ali. This friendship allows one to see the path leading to high heavens.
See how many signs are there in Ali.
What else are we waiting for? Are waiting them to say: Ali is Allah? As you can see they say almost
same.
Iblis Loves Ali & His Grand Son Is A Shi’ite !
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By brother al-Hajjaj:
While I was going through my old notes, I stumbled with the following narration, reported by their
Sadooq (Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi) in his book Uyoon Akhbaar al-Ridha. It simply confirms that Iblis is
one of Ali’s lovers and fans:
‫ عن دارم بن‬، ‫عن ابى بكر محمد بن احمد بن الحسين بن يوسف بن َريق البغدادي عن على بن محمد بن عيينة مولى الرشيد‬
‫ عن على بن موسى الرضا عليه السالم عن َبيه موسى بن جعفر‬، ‫قبيصة بن نهثل بن مجمع النهشلي الصنعانى بسر من رَى‬
‫ قد سقط حاجباه‬، ‫ كنت جالسا عند الكعبة وإذا شيخ محدودب‬: ‫ عن على بن ابي طالب عليهَ السالم قال‬، ‫ عن آبائه‬، ‫عن ابيه‬
‫ فدنا إلى النبي صلى هللا عليه‬، ‫ وعليه مدرعة من الشعر‬، ‫ وعلى رَسه برنس احمر‬، ‫ وفى يده عكاَة‬، ‫على عينيه من شدة الكبر‬
‫ يا رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه واله وسلَ ادع لى بالمغفرة فقال النبي صلى هللا عليه‬: ‫ فقال‬، ‫واله وسلَ وهو مسند ظهره إلى الكعبة‬
‫ ذلك اللعين‬: ‫ قال‬. ‫ يا َبا الحسن َتعرفه ؟ قلت اللهَ ال‬: ‫ قال‬، ‫ فلما تولى الشيخ‬، ‫ خاب سعيك يا شيخ وضل عملك‬: َ‫واله وسل‬
‫ فعدوت خلفه حتى لحقته وصرعته إلى االرض وجلست على صدره ووضعت يدى في حلقه‬: ‫ قال على عليه السالم‬. ‫ابليس‬
‫ وما ابغضك احد‬، ‫ ووهللا يا على انى الحبك‬، ‫ ال تفعل يا َبا الحسن فانى من المنظرين إلى يوم الوقت المعلوم‬: ‫ فقال لى‬، ‫ألخنقه‬
‫ فضحكت وخليت سبيله‬، ‫ فصار ولد الزنا‬، ‫اال شركت َباه في امه‬
“………..From Ali bin Musa al-Ridha, from his father Musa bin Ja’far, from his father, from his
forefathers, from Ali bin Abi Talib saying:
I once was sitting by the Ka’bah, behold I saw an old man with a bent back, his eye bras were
falling over his eyes due to aging, holding a staff with his hand, a red hat topping his head, and
wearing a woolen vest. He approached the Prophet [saw] while his back was liening against the
Ka’bah, and said:
O Messenger of Allah, pray for my forgiveness. The Messenger [saw] said: Your endeavor and
deeds are in vain. When the old man left, he said:
O Abul-Hasan, do you know who was he? I said: By Allah I don’t. He said: that was the cursed
Iblis.
‫‪Ali said: I then went after him, when I cought up with him, I threw him on the ground, sat over‬‬
‫‪his chest, with my hand on his throat to choke him up. He said to me:‬‬
‫‪O Abul-Hasan, do not do it, for I am given a chance till a certain known time. By Allah O Ali, I‬‬
‫‪love you, (to the point) there’s no one hated you that I did not share with his dad his mother‬‬
‫”‪and made him a son of fornication. So I laughed and sat him free.‬‬
‫‪Now, according to the Shi’ites, who love quote our Hadith “None loves you but a believer, and none‬‬
‫‪hates you but a hypocrite”, Iblis is a Grand Believer LOL.‬‬
‫‪Well, that wasn’t all, let’s read the following:‬‬
‫وقال َبو عبد هللا عليه السالم ‪ :‬بينا رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه وآله بين جبال تهامة إذا رجل متكئ على عكاَة ‪ ،‬طويل كأنه نخلة‬
‫‪ ،‬فقال النبي صلى هللا عليه وآله ‪ :‬لعله جني ‪ .‬قال ‪َ :‬نا الهام بن الهيثَ بن القيس بن إبليس ‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬ما بينك وبين إبليس إال َبوان ؟‬
‫قال ‪ :‬نعَ‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬وكَ َتى عليك ؟ قال ‪َ :‬كلت عمر الدنيا إال َقله ‪َ ،‬نا [ كنت ] يوم قتل قابيل هابيل ‪ ،‬غالم َفهَ الكالم ‪ ،‬وَنهى‬
‫عن االستعصام وَطوف اآلجام وَعلو اآلكام وآمر بقطيعة األرحام ‪ ،‬وافسد الطعام ‪ .‬فقال النبي صلى هللا عليه وآله ‪ :‬بئس سيرة‬
‫الشيخ المتأمل والشاب المؤمل‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬إني تائب ‪ ،‬وقد جرت توبتي على يد نوح عليه السالم وكنت معه في السفينة ‪ ،‬وعاتبته على‬
‫دعائه على قومه ‪ .‬ثَ كنت مع هود عليه السالم في مسجده مع الذين آمنوا معه ‪ ،‬فعاتبته على دعائه على قومه ‪ ،‬ولقد كنت مع‬
‫الياس عليه السالم بالرمل ‪ .‬وكنت مع إبراهيَ عليه السالم حين كاده قومه ‪ ،‬وَلقوه في النار ‪ ،‬فكنت بين المنجنيق والنار ‪ ،‬فجعلها‬
‫هللا عليه بردا وسالما ‪ .‬ثَ كنت مع يوسف عليه السالم حين حسده اخوته ‪ ،‬وَلقوه في الجب ‪ ،‬فبادرته إلى قعر الجب ‪ ،‬وتناولته ‪،‬‬
‫ووضعته وضعا رفيقا ‪ .‬ثَ كنت معه في السجن ‪َ ،‬ؤنسه حتى َخرجه هللا ‪ .‬ثَ كنت مع موسى عليه السالم وعلمني سفرا من‬
‫التوراة ‪ ،‬وقال [ لي ] ‪ :‬إن َدركت عيسى فاقرَه مني السالم ‪ .‬فلقيته وَقرَته السالم من موسى ‪ .‬وكنت معه ‪ ،‬وعلمني سفرا من‬
‫اإلنجيل ‪ ،‬وقال لي ‪ :‬إن َدركت محمدا فاقرَه مني السالم ‪ .‬فعيسى يا رسول هللا يقرَ عليك السالم ‪ .‬فقال صلى هللا عليه وآله ‪:‬‬
‫على عيسى روح هللا وكلمته ما دامت السماوات واألرض السالم وعليك ياهام لما بلغت السالم ‪ ،‬فارفع إلينا حوائجك ‪ .‬فقال ‪:‬‬
‫حاجتي َن يبقيك هللا المتك ‪ ،‬و يصلحهَ لك ‪ ،‬ويرَقهَ االستقامة لوصيك من بعدك ‪ ،‬فان األمَ السالفة إنما هلكت بعصيان‬
‫األوصياء ‪ ،‬وحاجتي َن تعلمني [ يا رسول هللا ] سورا من القرآن اصلي بها ‪ .‬فقال رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه وآله لعلي عليه‬
‫السالم ‪ :‬علَ ‪ ،‬الهام ‪ ،‬وارفق ‪ .‬فقال هام ‪ :‬يا رسول هللا ومن هذا الذي ضممتني [ إليه ] ؟ فإنا معشر الجن َمرنا َال نتبع إال نبيا‬
‫َو وصي نبي ‪ .‬فقال رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه وآله ‪ :‬يا هام من وجدتَ في الكتب وصي آدم ؟ قال ‪ :‬شيث ‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬فمن كان وصي‬
‫نوح ؟ قال ‪ :‬سام ‪ .‬قال فمن كان وصي هود ؟ قال ‪ :‬يوحنا بن حنان ابن عَ هود ‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬فمن كان وصي إبراهيَ ؟ قال ‪ :‬إسماعيل‬
‫‪ ،‬ووصي إسماعيل إسحاق ‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬فمن كان وصي موسى ؟ قال ‪ :‬يوشع بن نون ‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬فمن كان وصي عيسى ؟ قال شمعون بن‬
‫حمون الصفاء ابن عَ مريَ ‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬فلَ كانوا هؤالء َوصياء األنبياء ؟ قال ‪ :‬ألنهَ كانوا ََهد الناس في الدنيا ‪ ،‬وَرغب الناس في‬
‫اآلخرة‪ .‬قال ‪ :‬فمن وجدتَ في الكتب وصي محمد ؟ قال ‪ :‬هو في التوراة إليا ‪ .‬قال رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه وآله ‪ :‬إن هذا إليا ‪،‬‬
‫هذا علي وصيي وَخي ‪ ،‬وهو ََهد الناس في الدنيا ‪ ،‬وَرغب الناس إلى هللا في اآلخرة ‪ .‬فسلَ هام على علي عليه السالم ثَ قال‬
‫‪ :‬يا رسول هللا فله اسَ غير هذا ؟ قال ‪ :‬نعَ ‪ .‬هو حيدرة ‪ .‬فعلمه علي عليه السالم سورا [ من القرآن ] ‪ .‬فقال هام ‪ .‬يا علي ‪ ،‬يا‬
‫وصي محمد صلى هللا عليه وآله َكتفي بما علمتني من القرآن في صالتي ؟ قال ‪ :‬نعَ ‪ ،‬قليل القرآن كثير‬
‫‪“Abu Abdullah [as] said:‬‬
‫‪While the Messenger of Allah [saw] was going through the mountains of Tihamah, behold he‬‬
‫‪saw a tall man, as [tall as] the palm tree, liening on a staff. The Messenger [saw] said: He’s‬‬
‫‪probably a Jinni.‬‬
‫‪[The man] said: I am al-Ham bin al-Haytham bin Laqis bin Iblis.‬‬
‫!?‪[The Messenger] said: Just two fathers between you and Iblis‬‬
[The man] said: yes.
[The Messenger] said: How old are you?
[The man] said: I consumed the entire life span of this earth save a little. At the time Cain
killed Abel, I was a young comprehending lad. I used then to forbid (mankind) against resorting
back (to Allah), and I used to go through the forts and up hills, commanding (mankind) to sever
their kinships, and spoiling their food.
The Messenger [saw] said: What an ill past for the old man, and ill hope for the young.
[The man] said: (But) I have repented. My repentence was made through Noah [as]. I was with
him on the Ark, and have expressed my expoltulation to him for praying against his own
people. I was then with Hud [as] in his mosque with those who believed in him, and have also
expressed my expoltulation to him for praying against his own people. I furthermore was with
Ilyas in the sand. I was also with Ibraham when his people conspired against him, and threw him
into the fire. I was between the winch and the fire, and Allah made it all cold and safety for
him. I furthermore was with Joseph when his brethren enveyed him and dumped him into the
well. I rushed to the bottom of the well to receive him, and let him down safely. I was also with
him in his jail giving him a company until Allah sat him free.
I was then with Moses, who taught me a chapter from the Torah, and instructed me, if I lived
long enough, to give his Salaam to Jesus. So I met Jesus and delivered the greeting of Moses to
him. I was also with him, and he taught me a chapter from Injeel, and instructed me, if I lived
long enough, saying: give my Salaam to Muhammad. So Jesus send you his greetings O
Muhammad.
The Messenger [saw] said: Peace be on Jesus, the Spirit and Word of Allah, as long as the
heavens & earth exist, and on you Ham for delivering his greeting. Summon your needs to us.
[the man] said: My need is that Allah keeps you for your Ummah and take a good care of them,
and bless them with supporting your appointee after you [depart]. The past nations have
indeed perished due to their disobedience to the appointees. I would like also for you to teach
me some chapters of the Qur’an for the purpose of reciting them in my prayers.
The Messenger [saw] said to Ali: Teach al-Ham and be nice to him.
Ham said: O Messenger of Allah, who is this man that you’ve assigned me to? For we, the Jinn,
were ordered to follow none but a Prophet or an appointee of a Prophet.
The Messenger [saw] said: O Ham, who is it do you find in the scriptures to be the appointee of
Adam?
[Ham] said: Sheth.
[The Messenger] said: And who was the appointee of Noah?
[Ham] said: Sam.
[The Messenger] said: And who was the appointee of Hud?
[Ham] said: John bin Hanan, the cousin of Hud.
[The Messenger] said: Who was then the appointee of Ibrahim?
[Ham] said: Ismael, and the appointee of Ismael was Isaac.
[The Messenger] said: Who was the appointee of Moses?
[Ham] said: Jashua bin Noon.
[The messenger] said: And who was the appointee of Jesus?
[Ham] said: Simon bin Hamoon al-Safaa, the cousin of Maryam.
[The Messenger] said: Why were those made appointees for the Prophets?
[Ham] said: Because they were the most ascetic people on earth, and the most desirous of the
hereafter.
[The messenger] said: Who do you find in the scriptuures the appointee of Muhammad?
[Ham] said: In the Torah, he is [supposed to be] Elia.
The Messenger [saw] said: This man is Elia, he is Ali, my appointee and my brother. He’s the
most ascetic person on earth, and the most desirous for the hereafter.
Ham then greeted Ali, and asked the messenger [saw]: O Messenger of Allah, has he another
name?
[The Messenger] said: Yes, He’s Haidara.
Ali then tought him few chapters of the Qur’an.
Ham then said: O Ali, O Appointee of Muhammad [saw]: Should what you’ve tought me of the
Qur’an be sufficient for my prayers?
[Ali] said: Yes, the little of the Qur’an is already a great bunch.”
[al-Kharaa'ij wal-Jaraa'ih, The Grand Muhaddith & Mufassir Qutbud-Deen al-Rawandi, vol.1]
Well !!!! what an interesting piece of myth lol But the Shi3i brain loves it and accepts it.
Ali showed to his people heaven and hell
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Salam alaikum.
Ali ibn Yunus al-Amuli in his book “as-Siratal mustagem” 1/105, said:
‫ إن موسى وعيسى كانا يريان المعجزات فلو َريتنا شيئا لنطمئن إليه فأراهَ عليه السالم‬:‫قال له َصحابه‬
‫ سحر وثبت اثنان فأراهَ حصى مسجد الكوفة ياقوتا فكفر‬:َ‫جنات من جانب وسعيرا من جانب وقال َكثره‬
‫َحدهما وبقي اآلخر قيل وهو ميثَ التمار وقيل عمرو بن الحمق‬.
And his (Alis) companions said to him: Moses and Jesus use to show miracles. (Could) you show
us something also, so we can be calm. Alaihi salam showed them heavens from one side and
hell from the other. Majority of them said that it was magic. (Only) two of them been steady.
And (Ali) showed them stones of Kufian mosque as a ambers. One of them fall into kufr, other
stayed. And it was said that it al-Meytham at-Tammar, and it was said Amr ibn al-Ahmaq.
Points to discuss:
1) Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) showed to his companions hell and heaven.
2) Only two of his companions believed to him, and rest of his shias accused him in magic.
Fuzz from angels, another shia fairy tale
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“Kafi” by Kulayni, H 1025, Ch. 97, h 3
From abu Hamza al-Thumali who has said the following. “Once I went to see Ali ibn al-Husayn (a.s.)
and I became confounded in the room for an hour then I went inside the house while he was picking
up things and would give to someone behind the curtain. I then said, may Allah take my soul in
service for your cause, What was that thing that I saw you picking up?” The Imam (a.s.) said, “The
fuzz from the angels when they come to meet us and we use it amuse our children.” I then said,
may Allah take my soul in service for your cause, do they they come to you?” The Imam (a.s.) said,
“O abu Hamza, they become crowded over our furnishings.”
Ayatullat Sayd Abdulla ibn Muhammad Rza ibn Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Ali Alavi Husayni Musavi
Shubbar in his book “Al anwarul lamiya fi sharhi ziyaratul jamiya” on page 20 wrote narration is
saheeh.
The 30 signs of a divine leader
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Salam alaikum.
Grand master of rafidha shaikh al-Qummi in his “al-Khisal” narrated:
‫ َخبرنا َحمد بن محمد بن سعيد الكوفي‬:‫حدثنا محمد بن إبراهيَ بن إسحاق الطالقاني رضي هللا عنه قال‬
:‫ عن َبي الحسن علي بن موسى الرضا عليهما السالم قال‬،‫ عن َبيه‬،‫ حدثنا علي بن الحسن بن فضال‬:‫قال‬
‫ وَسخى‬،‫ وَشجع الناس‬،‫ وَحلَ الناس‬،‫ وَتقى الناس‬،‫ وَحكَ الناس‬،‫لالمام عالمات يكون َعلَ الناس‬
‫ وال يكون لـه‬،‫ ويرى من خلفه كما يرى من بيـن يديـه‬،‫ ويكون مطهرا‬،‫ ويولد مختونا‬،‫ وَعبد الناس‬،‫الناس‬
‫ وإذا وقـع على االرض من [بطن] امه وقع على‬،‫ظل‬
‫ ويكون محدثا ويستوي عليه درع‬،‫وتنام عينه وال ينام قلبه‬،َ‫ وال يحتل‬،‫راحتيه رافعا صوته بالشهادة‬
‫ وال يرى له بول وال غائط الن هللا عز وجل قد وكل االرض بابتالع ما‬،‫رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه وآله‬
‫ ويكون َولى الناس منهَ بأنفسهَ وَشفق عليهَ من‬،‫ويكون له رائحة َطيب من رائحة المسك‬،‫يخرج منه‬
‫ ويكون آخذ الناس بما يأمرهَ به وَكف الناس‬،‫ ويكون َشد الناس تواضعا هل عز وجل‬،َ‫ وامهاته‬،َ‫آبائه‬
‫ ويكون عنده سالح‬،‫ ويكون دعاؤه مستجابا حتى لو َنه دعا على صخرة النشقت نصفين‬،‫عما ينهى عنه‬
‫ ويكون عنده صحيفة فيها َسماء شيعته إلى يوم القيامة‬،‫رسول هللا صلى هللا عليه وآله وسيفه ذوالفقار‬
‫ ويكون عنده الجامعة وهي صحيفة طولها سبعون ذراعا فيها‬،‫وصحيفة فيها َسماء َعدائهَ إلى يوم القيامة‬
‫ ويكون عنده الجفر االكبر واالصغر إهابماعز وإهاب كبش فيهما جميع‬،‫جميع ما يحتاج إليه ولد آدم‬
‫ ويكون عنده مصحف فاطمة عليها‬،‫العلوم حتى َرش الخدش وحتى الجلدة ونصف الجلدة وثلث الجلدة‬
‫السالم‬
21-1 Abul Abbas Muhammad ibn Ibrahim ibn Ishaq al-Taleqani – may God be pleased with him –
narrated that Muhammad ibn Sa’id al-Kufy quoted Ali ibn al-Hassan Ibn Fadhal, from his father,
from Abil Hassan Ali ibn Musa al-Reza (alaihi salam), “There are certain signs designating the Imam.
He is the most knowledgeable, the wisest, the most pious, the most patient, the bravest, the most
generous, and the person who worships the most among the people. He was born circumcised. He is
pure and clean. He sees the back as well he sees the front. He has no shadow. When he fell out
of his mother’s uterus onto the ground, he fell onto the palms of his hands and loudly declared
the two testimonial declarations. He has no nocturnal pollution. His eyes go to sleep, but his heart
will not go to sleep. He is inspired. The armor of God’s Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa
salam) fits him. His urine and feces cannot be seen since the Almighty God has appointed the
Earth to swallow whatever he excretes even though it smells like musk. He has power over the
people, although he is kinder to them than their own parents are. He is the humblest of all people
before the Almighty God. He acts upon what he advises the people to do more than anyone else. He
abstains from what he admonishes the people against. His prayers are accepted such that if he
wishes a rock to be divided into two parts, it will. He has the weapon of the Prophet of God
(sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa salam). He has his sword – the Zulfuqar . He has a list of the names
of his followers up until the Resurrection Day. He has a list of the names of his enemies up until the
Resurrection Day. He possesses Al-Jame’a – that is a nearly thirty-five meter long text which
encompasses all of the needs of the human beings. He also possesses the Jafr-i-Akbar and Jafr-iAsqar that are a goat-skin and a ram-skin which include all knowledge – even the punishment for a
scratch or one, a half or a third of a crack of a whip. He also possesses the Blessed Fatimah’s (alaihi
salam) Mushaf”.
Miraj happen 120 times. Shia books say.
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Salam alaikum
Shaikh of rawafidh al-Qummi in “al-Khisal”:
‫ حدثنا‬:‫ حدثنا الحسن ابن متيل الدقاق قال‬:‫حدثنا محمد بن الحسن بن َحمد بن الوليد رضي هللا عنه قال‬
‫ عن َبي عبد هللا عليه السالم‬،‫ عن صباح المزني‬،‫ عن يونس‬،‫ عن منيع بن الحجاج‬،‫سلمة بن الخطاب‬
‫ عرج النبي صلى هللا عليه وآله مائة وعشرين مرة ما من مرة إال وقد َوصى هللا عز وجل فيها النبي‬:‫قال‬
‫صلى هللا عليه وآله بالوالية لعلي واالئمة عليهَ السالم َكثر مما َوصاه بالفرائض‬.
26-5 Muhammad ibn al-Hassan ibn Ahmad ibn al-Walid – may God be pleased with him – narrated
that Al-Hassan ibn Matil al-Daq’qaq quoted Salma ibn al-Khat’tab, on the authority of Muni’a ibn alHaj’jaj, on the authority of Yunus, on the authority of Sabah al-Mazny that Aba Abdullah as-Sadiq
(alaihi salam) said, “The Prophet (sallalahu alaihi wa ala alihi wa salam) ascended to Heaven onehundred and twenty times. Every time, the Honorable the Exalted God recommended the love for
Ali (alaihi salam) and the Immaculate Divine Leaders (alaihuma salam) more than He recommended
the obligatory deeds.”
Birth of imam. Narrated by Majlese
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Source: The book of
occultation
Chapter: His birth and story of his mother
Compiler: `Allamah Muhammad Baqir al-Majlisi
Translator: Hassan Allahyari
Publisher: Ansariyan Publications -Qom
First Edition 2003-1424-1382
Al-Husain Ibn Hamdān and another reliable Sheikh narrated to me from Hakīma Bint Muhammad Ibn
‘Ali al-Redhā (alaihi salam) narrated that she used to enter upon Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam) and
pray for him that Allah may give him a son. She said, I entered upon her and said to him what I used
to say and prayed as I used to pray. He said, “Aunt, as for your prayers that may Allah give me a
son, it will happen tonight.” It was a Friday eve, three nights left from Sha‘bān of the year two
hundred and fifty seven. “Have your iftār with us.” “Who is this blessed boy going to be born from,
my Master,” I asked. “From Narjis, aunt.”
I said to him, “There is not one amongst your bondmaids more cherished to me than her.” I rose
and went to her. When I entered upon her, she did to me what she always did. I bowed on her
hands and kissed them and did not allow her do what she always did. She called me her lady; I
called her the same. She said, “May I be your ransom,” she said. “I and the whole world be your
ransom,” I returned.
She turned that down. I said to her, “Do not turn down what I did. For Allah will grant you in this
night a boy, a Master in this world and the hereafter. He will be the relief of the believers.” She
was bashful.
I looked at her closely but did not see any sign of pregnancy. I said to my Master Abu Muhammad
(alaihi salam), “I do not see any pregnancy in her.” He smiled and said, “We the congregation of
successors are not carried in the abdomens, but rather, we are carried on the sides. We do not
come out from wombs, but rather from the right leg from our mothers. Because we are the
Divine light to which impurities do not reach.” “My Master,” I said, “you just informed me he will
be born in this night. In which time?” He said, “At dawn-break, the dignified before Allah will be
born insha’Allah.
Lady Hakīma says, I got up and made iftār and then slept near Narjis. Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam)
slept at the front deck of the house in which we were. When the time of nightly prayers arrived, I
got up. Narjis was asleep. There was not any sign of parturition in her. I began my prayers and then
performed the watr prayers. As I was in the watr, it occurred to my mind that the dawn has come.
As doubts came to my heart, Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam) called out from the deck, “Aunt, dawn
has not come.” I finished the prayers fast and Narjis moved. I came near her and pulled her to me
and mentioned the name of Allah on her. “Do you feel anything?” I asked her. “Yes,” she said. A
faintness overwhelmed me that I could not hold my person and it put me to sleep. The same
happened to Narjis. I did not wake up but by feeling my Master the Mahdi and hearing the call of
Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam), saying, “Aunt, bring my son to me.” I kissed him and removed the
veil from my Master. There he was, prostrating, reaching the earth with his forehead, palms,
knees, and toes. There was transcribed on his right arm, The Truth has came and vanity has
perished, verily, vanity is ever perishing. I pulled him to myself and found him to be pure and
clean without need to any attention. I wrapped him in a cloth and carried him to Abu
Muhammad (alaihi salam). He picked his son and sat him on his left palm and placed his right
palm on his back. Then he entered his tongue into the blessed baby’s mouth and touched his
hand against the baby’s back and ears and joints. Then he said to him, “Talk, my son.” He said,
“I bear witness that a deity other than Allah is not, and I bear witness that Muhammad is
Messenger of Allah and that ‘Ali, the Prince of the Believers, is the Wali of Allah.” Then he kept
counting the Master Imams, one after the other, until he reached himself. He beseeched relief
for his devotees on his hands and then with great awe stopped.”
“Aunt, take him to his mother,” said Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam), “so he greets her. Then bring
him to me.” I took him. He greeted his mother and then I returned him to his father. Then the like
of a veil was erected between me and Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam) and I did not see my Master. I
said to him, “My Master, where is our lord?” He said, “Took him someone who is more nearer to him
than you. When it is the seventh day, come to us.” On the seventh day, I came and greeted him
and sat down. He said, “Bring my son to me.” I brought my Master, who was in a yellow dress. His
father did the same things to him like the first time and put his tongue into his mouth and then said
to him, “Talk, my son.”
He said, “I bear witness that a deity other than Allah is not.” Then he praised Muhammad by
beseeching blessings for him and the Prince of the Believers and the Imams one after the other
until he stopped by mentioning his father. Then he recited, In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the
Compassionate; And We desire to confer kindness upon those who have been enfeebled on earth
and make them Imams and make them heirs and give them power on earth and show Pharaoh and
Hāmān and their armies from them what they have been averting.
Then he said, “Read, my son, from the books that Allah has revealed upon his prophets and
apostles.” My Master began with the book of Adam and read it in Assyrian; he read the book of
Idrīs, the book of Noah, the book of Hūd, the book of Sālih, the pages of Abraham, the Torah of
Moses, the Psalms of David, the Evangel of Jesus, and the Qur’ān of my grandfather Muhammad
(alaihi salam). Then he narrated the stories of the apostles and messengers until his own time.
After forty days, I went to the house of Abu Muhammad (alahi salam) and suddenly saw that the
Master of the Age was walking about the house. I had never seen a face more beautiful than his,
nor heard a tongue more eloquent than his. Abu Muhammad (alaihi salam) said to me, “This is the
boy dignified before Allah, the Exalted.”
I said to him, “My Master, he is forty days old and I see him like this.” He said, “My aunt, don’t you
know that we the congregation of legatees grow in a day so much that the others grow in a week,
and grow in a week so much that the others grow in a year.” I rose and kissed his forehead and
returned. I came back and looked him but did not see him. I said to my Master Abu Muhammad
(alaihi salam), “What has our Master done?” He said, “Aunt, we entrusted him to the one mother of
Moses entrusted her son to.” Then he said, “When my Lord granted me the Mahdi of this Ummah,
He sent two angels, who carried him to the Pavilions of the Throne (Sarādiq al-‘Arsh), so much so
they stood him in front of Allah, the Glorified. He said to him, ‘Blessed be you My servant for the
support of my religion and manifestation of My command and guidance of My servants. I have taken
an oath that through you I will seize, through you I will grant, through I will forgive, through you I
will punish. Return him, O’ two angels, return him. Return him to his father like a friend of Mine is
returned. Convey to his father that he is in My accord of protection, in My security, and in My eyes
until I establish through him the truth, until I perish through him vanity, and until the religion is for
Me forever.’”
She said, “When he fell from the abdomen of his mother on earth, he was found kneeling on his
knees, raising his forefingers. Then he sneezed and said, ‘All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the
worlds. And may Allah bless Muhammad—a humble servant, neither proud nor arrogant—and his
household.’ Then he said, ‘The oppressors have presumed that the Hujja of Allah has perished. If I
were given permission, this doubt would perish.’”
I don’t think that i need to comment anything. These words of imam: We do not come out from
wombs, but rather from the right leg from our mothers. U can also find in the “Madeenatol
majaiz” by Said Hasheem Bahrane 8/22.