Some of you want to know information
So feast on this
the good stuff is below after the 14th amendent- Unacceptable Payments and
more
Constitution Article one section 10- No State shall, make anything but gold
and silver coin a tender of debts, or law impairing the obligations of
contracts.
AMENDMENT XIV
Section 4. Validity of public debt. The validity of the public debt of
the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of
pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion,
shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall
assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or
rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation
of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held
illegal and void.
You can not argue the validity of Public Debt. The US nor the States are
responsible for the repayment of the debts. Who is left? People! Incurred in
aid of insurrection- that is what the Federal gov did. They attacked the
constitution by this very Amendment- The 13 and the 14th amendments are an act
of rebellion against the Republic- Democracy is born. And the people died.
The national debt too big- stop your whining- the debt shall not be
questioned. Cant see congress balancing the budget?- they don't have to- they are not
responsible for repayment of the debts. People are, without gold and silver,
how are they to repay the debt. How? Property? Signature? Life? That which
we consider precious, more so then gold and silver- always has been.
3.8.45.4.9 (01-01-2010)_Unacceptable Payments
1. Unacceptable Payment of Taxes are items that the Depository Bank
will not accept as payment. Any of the following items found in the Payment
Perfection Unit must be returned to the taxpayer using letter 2689, 2690 or
3270. _Note:_If these items are not returned immediately, they must be stored
in a locked safe. __
Gold
Silver
So it is illegal? unlawful? for the people to pay the debt that the people
must pay for the debt of the US gov and states? Or is it that Taxpayers are
not people, they are subjects. And only people have gold and silver and they
do not owe taxes, but none gold and silver people are subjects- They are
NOT Taxpayers!
Public Law 73-10. it states in part: “...every provision contained in or
made with respect to any obligation which purports to give the obligee a right
to require payment in gold or a particular kind of coin or currency, or in
an amount in money of the United States measured thereby, is declared to be
against public policy.†•
Cant pay the debts?
IRM 3.8.44.4.2 (01-01-2010)_
Taxpayer (personal check or money order) Now is this saying personal checks
and personal Money Orders? or Money Orders and PErsonal Checks? But in the
accept or reject area it says- Accept if taxpayer has endorsed. Reject if
taxpayer has not endorsed.
When have you ever endorsed the back of a personal check? or a Money order.
Yet the AFV we endorse the backs- typically endorsement is on the back.
The over stamp/Endorse area of this IRM section states: Endorse "For
Deposit Only - United States Treasury" below last endorsement.
I make my AFV always deposite to US Treasury. Seems to support that idea.
But we are not done yet
3.8.45.4.2 (01-01-2010)_Remittance Perfection
3. If payee is IRS only, CASH or blank, stamp United States Treasury on
payee line.
4. Money orders must have either the name of the taxpayer or TIN. If
not present, enter taxpayer's TIN as it appears on the accompanying source
document.
So How do I make my AFVs out? Payable to US Treasury
some people have had success when it's not an IRS issue making it payable
to the company, I use Pay to US Treasury. Now it must have the TIN number on
the source document- not on the MO! I mean it can be, but why dont they
say the MO must have the TIN? The accompanying source document- The AFVs have
the source doc and a MO with TIN/SS#.
Looking like we are doing it correctly so far.
12 U.S.C. § 411 : Issuance to reserve banks; nature of obligation;
redemption
Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to
Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set
forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be
obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member
banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other
public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury
Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of
Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank.
We went back to the FRNs they are suppose to be equal- or shall we say
dollar for dollar? Isn't this what HJR192 claimed? Do they do it? No it is
against public policy- see 73-10 above
TITLE 31 § 5118
(a) In this section(1) “gold clause  means a provision in or related to an obligation
alleging to give the obligee a right to require payment in(A) gold;
(B) a particular United States coin or currency; or
(C) United States money measured in gold or a particular United States coin
or currency.
(2) “public debt obligation  means a domestic obligation issued or
guaranteed by the United States Government to repay money or interest. (Like
FRNs)-[See the 14th amendment section 4]
(b) The United States Government may not pay out any gold coin. A person
lawfully holding United States coins and currency may present the coins and
currency to the Secretary of the Treasury for exchange (dollar for dollar) for
other United States coins and currency (other than gold and silver coins)
that may be lawfully held. The Secretary shall make the exchange under
regulations prescribed by the Secretary.
(c)
(1) The Government withdraws its consent given to anyone to assert against
the Government, its agencies, or its officers, employees, or agents, a
claim(A) on a gold clause public debt obligation or interest on the obligation;
(B) for United States coins or currency; or
(C) arising out of the surrender, requisition, seizure, or acquisition of
United States coins or currency, gold, or silver involving the effect or
validity of a change in the metallic content of the dollar or in a regulation
about the value of money.
(2) Paragraph (1) of this subsection does not apply to a proceeding in
which no claim is made for payment or credit in an amount greater than the face
or nominal value in dollars of public debt obligations or United States
coins or currency involved in the proceeding.
(3) Except when consent is not withdrawn under this subsection, an amount
appropriated for payment on public debt obligations and for United States
coins and currency may be expended only dollar for dollar.
(d)
(1) In this subsection, “obligation  means any obligation (except United
States currency) payable in United States money.
(2) An obligation issued containing a gold clause or governed by a gold
clause is discharged on payment (dollar for dollar) in United States coin or
currency that is legal tender at the time of payment. This paragraph does not
apply to an obligation issued after October 27, 1977.
So obligations such as taxes? So AFV is in response to Obligations claimeddebts? But it's all debts not just taxes. All debts- but whom do you send
it to? Treasury or their accoounting department- IRS!
In fact FRNs were only used for book keeping before they became the money
of the land - it was traded between banks- hummm does that mean you are a
bank? Moderrn Money Mechanics claims the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank-says the
FRNs deposits for book entries.
Giving a Note (FRN) does not constitute payment - Echart v Commissioners 42
Fd2d 158
The use of (FRN) note is only a promise to pay - Fidelity Savings v Grimes
131 P2d 894
Legal Tender (FRN) Notes are not good and lawful money Raines v State 226
SW 189
This is saying FRNs are worthless! as you can not exchange them dollar for
dollar
So when you purchase anything- they demand gold or silver (lawful money)
and you give them worthless notes! How can you owe- whatever. They asked for
US Money- gold and silver! you gave them nothing- you violated the contract!
UCC § 1-204. Value.
Except as otherwise provided in Articles 3, 4, [and] 5, [and 6], a person
gives value for rights if the person acquires them: (1) in return for a
binding commitment to extend credit or for the extension of immediately available
credit, whether or not drawn upon and whether or not a charge-back is
provided for in the event of difficulties in collection; (2) as security for, or
in total or partial satisfaction of, a preexisting claim; (3) by accepting
delivery under a preexisting contract for purchase; or (4) in return for any
consideration sufficient to support a simple contract.
AFV Rules
§ 3-104. NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT.
(a) Except as provided in subsections (c) and (d), "negotiable instrument"
means an unconditional promise or order to pay a fixed amount of money,
with or without interest or other charges described in the promise or order, if
it:
(1) is payable to bearer or to order at the time it is issued or first
comes into possession of a holder;
(2) is payable on demand or at a definite time; and
(3) does not state any other undertaking or instruction by the person
promising or ordering payment to do any act in addition to the payment of money,
but the promise or order may contain (i) an undertaking or power to give,
maintain, or protect collateral to secure payment, (ii) an authorization or
power to the holder to confess judgment or realize on or dispose of
collateral, or (iii) a waiver of the benefit of any law intended for the advantage or
protection of an obligor.
(b) "Instrument" means a negotiable instrument.
(c) An order that meets all of the requirements of subsection (a), except
paragraph (1), and otherwise falls within the definition of "check" in
subsection (f) is a negotiable instrument and a check.
(d) A promise or order other than a check is not an instrument if, at the
time it is issued or first comes into possession of a holder, it contains a
conspicuous statement, however expressed, to the effect that the promise or
order is not negotiable or is not an instrument governed by this Article.
(e) An instrument is a "note" if it is a promise and is a "draft" if it is
an order. If an instrument falls within the definition of both "note" and
"draft," a person entitled to enforce the instrument may treat it as either.
(f) "Check" means (i) a draft, other than a documentary draft, payable on
demand and drawn on a bank or (ii) a cashier's check or teller's check. An
instrument may be a check even though it is described on its face by another
term, such as "money order."
(g) "Cashier's check" means a draft with respect to which the drawer and
drawee are the same bank or branches of the same bank.
(h) "Teller's check" means a draft drawn by a bank (i) on another bank, or
(ii) payable at or through a bank.
(i) "Traveler's check" means an instrument that (i) is payable on demand,
(ii) is drawn on or payable at or through a bank, (iii) is designated by the
term "traveler's check" or by a substantially similar term, and (iv)
requires, as a condition to payment, a countersignature by a person whose specimen
signature appears on the instrument.
(j) "Certificate of deposit" means an instrument containing an
acknowledgment by a bank that a sum of money has been received by the bank and a
promise by the bank to repay the sum of money. A certificate of deposit is a note
of the bank.
So I hope this helps
§ 3-501. PRESENTMENT.
(a) "Presentment" means a demand made by or on behalf of a person
entitled to enforce an instrument (i) to pay the instrument made to the drawee or a
party obliged to pay the instrument or, in the case of a note or accepted
draft payable at a bank, to the bank, or (ii) to accept a draft made to the
drawee.
(b) The following rules are subject to Article 4, agreement of the
parties, and clearing-house rules and the like:
(1) Presentment may be made at the place of payment of the instrument and
must be made at the place of payment if the instrument is payable at a bank
in the United States; may be made by any commercially reasonable means,
including an oral, written, or electronic communication; is effective when the
demand for payment or acceptance is received by the person to whom
presentment is made; and is effective if made to any one of two or more makers,
acceptors, drawees, or other payors.
(2) Upon demand of the person to whom presentment is made, the person
making presentment must (i) exhibit the instrument, (ii) give reasonable
identification and, if presentment is made on behalf of another person, reasonable
evidence of authority to do so, and (iii) sign a receipt on the instrument
for any payment made or surrender the instrument if full payment is made.
(3) Without dishonoring the instrument, the party to whom presentment is
made may (i) return the instrument for lack of a necessary indorsement, or
(ii) refuse payment or acceptance for failure of the presentment to comply
with the terms of the instrument, an agreement of the parties, or other
applicable law or rule.
(4) The party to whom presentment is made may treat presentment as
occurring on the next business day after the day of presentment if the party to
whom presentment is made has established a cut-off hour not earlier than 2
p.m. for the receipt and processing of instruments presented for payment or
acceptance and presentment is made after the cut-off hour.
§ 3-502. DISHONOR.
(a) Dishonor of a note is governed by the following rules:
(1) If the note is payable on demand, the note is dishonored if
presentment is duly made to the maker and the note is not paid on the day of
presentment.
(2) If the note is not payable on demand and is payable at or through a
bank or the terms of the note require presentment, the note is dishonored if
presentment is duly made and the note is not paid on the day it becomes
payable or the day of presentment, whichever is later.
(3) If the note is not payable on demand and paragraph (2) does not
apply, the note is dishonored if it is not paid on the day it becomes payable.
(b) Dishonor of an unaccepted draft other than a documentary draft is
governed by the following rules:
(1) If a check is duly presented for payment to the payor bank otherwise
than for immediate payment over the counter, the check is dishonored if the
payor bank makes timely return of the check or sends timely notice of
dishonor or nonpayment under Section 4-301 or 4-302, or becomes accountable for
the amount of the check under Section 4-302.
(2) If a draft is payable on demand and paragraph (1) does not apply, the
draft is dishonored if presentment for payment is duly made to the drawee
and the draft is not paid on the day of presentment.
(3) If a draft is payable on a date stated in the draft, the draft is
dishonored if (i) presentment for payment is duly made to the drawee and
payment is not made on the day the draft becomes payable or the day of
presentment, whichever is later, or (ii) presentment for acceptance is duly made before
the day the draft becomes payable and the draft is not accepted on the day
of presentment.
(4) If a draft is payable on elapse of a period of time after sight or
acceptance, the draft is dishonored if presentment for acceptance is duly made
and the draft is not accepted on the day of presentment.
(c) Dishonor of an unaccepted documentary draft occurs according to the
rules stated in subsection (b)(2), (3), and (4), except that payment or
acceptance may be delayed without dishonor until no later than the close of the
third business day of the drawee following the day on which payment or
acceptance is required by those paragraphs.
(d) Dishonor of an accepted draft is governed by the following rules:
(1) If the draft is payable on demand, the draft is dishonored if
presentment for payment is duly made to the acceptor and the draft is not paid on
the day of presentment.
(2) If the draft is not payable on demand, the draft is dishonored if
presentment for payment is duly made to the acceptor and payment is not made on
the day it becomes payable or the day of presentment, whichever is later.
(e) In any case in which presentment is otherwise required for dishonor
under this section and presentment is excused under Section 3-504, dishonor
occurs without presentment if the instrument is not duly accepted or paid.
(f) If a draft is dishonored because timely acceptance of the draft was
not made and the person entitled to demand acceptance consents to a late
acceptance, from the time of acceptance the draft is treated as never having
been dishonored.
§ 3-602. PAYMENT.
(a) Subject to subsection (b), an instrument is paid to the extent
payment is made (i) by or on behalf of a party obliged to pay the instrument, and
(ii) to a person entitled to enforce the instrument. To the extent of the
payment, the obligation of the party obliged to pay the instrument is
discharged even though payment is made with knowledge of a claim to the instrument
under Section 3-306 by another person.
(b) Subject to subsection (e) a note is paid to the extent payment is made
by or on behalf of a party obliged to pay the note to a person that formerly
was entitled to enforce the note only if at the time of the payment the
party obliged to pay has not received adequate notification that the note has
been transferred and that payment is to be made to the transferee. A
notification is adequate only if it is signed by the transferor or the transferee;
reasonably identifies the transferred note; and provides an address at which
payments subsequently can be made. Upon request, a transferee shall
seasonably furnish reasonable proof that the note has been transferred. Unless the
transferee complies with the request, a payment to the person that formerly
was entitled to enforce the note is effective for purposes of subsection (c)
even if the party obliged to pay the note has received a notification under
this paragraph.
(c) Subject to subsection (e), to the extent of a payment under subsections
(a) and (b), the obligation of the party obliged to pay the instrument is
discharged even though payment is made with knowledge of a claim to the
instrument under Section 3-306 by another person.
(d) Subject to subsection (e), a transferee, or any party that has acquired
rights in the instrument directly or indirectly from a transferee,
including any such party that has rights as a holder in due course, is deemed to
have notice of any payment that is made under subsection (b) after the date
that the note is transferred to the transferee but before the party obliged to
pay the note receives adequate notification of the transfer.
(e) The obligation of a party to pay the instrument is not discharged
under subsections (a) through (d) if:
(1) a claim to the instrument under Section 3-306 is enforceable against
the party receiving payment and (i) payment is made with knowledge by the
payor that payment is prohibited by injunction or similar process of a court of
competent jurisdiction, or (ii) in the case of an instrument other than a
cashier's check, teller's check, or certified check, the party making payment
accepted, from the person having a claim to the instrument, indemnity
against loss resulting from refusal to pay the person entitled to enforce the
instrument; or
(2) the person making payment knows that the instrument is a stolen
instrument and pays a person it knows is in wrongful possession of the instrument.
(f) As used in this section, "signed," with respect to a record that is not
a writing, includes the attachment to or logical association with the
record of an electronic symbol, sound, or process to or with the record with the
present intent to adopt or accept the record.
§ 3-603. TENDER OF PAYMENT.
(a) If tender of payment of an obligation to pay an instrument is made to
a person entitled to enforce the instrument, the effect of tender is
governed by principles of law applicable to tender of payment under a simple
contract.
(b) If tender of payment of an obligation to pay an instrument is made to
a person entitled to enforce the instrument and the tender is refused,
there is discharge, to the extent of the amount of the tender, of the obligation
of an indorser or accommodation party having a right of recourse with
respect to the obligation to which the tender relates.
(c) If tender of payment of an amount due on an instrument is made to a
person entitled to enforce the instrument, the obligation of the obligor to
pay interest after the due date on the amount tendered is discharged. If
presentment is required with respect to an instrument and the obligor is able
and ready to pay on the due date at every place of payment stated in the
instrument, the obligor is deemed to have made tender of payment on the due
date to the person entitled to enforce the instrument.
Tender-payment of a debt or satisfaction of an obligation- isn't that
settlement?
Settlement- the adjustment to the account!
a resolution of differences
Well I hope this helps you understand AFV is not just a loophole but the
proper way to settle accounts- the only way available for the people to settle
the debts of this country. This isn't about 1099Cs, OIDs, A, INT etc....
This is ACCEPTED or ACCEPT FOR or AS VALUE or VALUABLE
Accepted for Value Accept as valuable
Settle your debts- you can't pay them.
Ohh and there is SOOOOO much more, But I am done!