Charles Hohl
July 18,1.912
Art
TOPIC
~Ci,i...
Oldest
Describes
Mining
Jobs
Alumni of Tech
1
Tech
.1
Operations
2
2,9
No.5
Tamarack
Saftey hazards
One-man drill
Shaft
3
3
3
Copper Strike
How Names got changed
Nationalities
get along-Mining Captains mainly Cornish
3,11
4
4
descent
4,9
Benefits
given
to Communities
from Mines 5
Personal
History
-5
Company furnished
Hospitalization
and
Doctors.
5
World War I 'and the Mining
Industry
6
Hobbies
and Spare time
6
Lenght
of Work"Days
.,
Transportation
:'7
First
Automobile
- 1914
Politics
Mines aid Education
Religion
Saloons
Depression.
Life Accomplishments
Geological
Work
Mines closed - could no longer negotiatelO
TourismCopper Country's
Future
Life Today for Mr. Hohl
Tech'- s Change and Growth
7
8
8
9
9
9
9
10
11:
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12
Puot1nen
Interview with Charles Hohl
by" Art Puotinen
~:
I thlDk
it's
a real
honor to t~
1/1.8/72
to one of the oldest
alumni of'Michigan
Tech.
One of' the oldest!
Yes, you are just about the oldest, ae*r I wonder if you could d~scribe something of
your first
few days at Mi~san
Tech,wA8lYOU came to the Copper Country fram~
b~~"-.-e,
-~~ Ohio, isn't that correct?
t.
Chas.
Yes
Art:
What vas it
.J Chas.
'98.
going
-~d.
18
like
to be a freshman
at Tech
give much thought
work.
~;.I didn't
on my college
in~
-*-.
to being
.,..
'.7
in
a freshman,
18981
I merely
wanted
to
get
as . ~Qepe'tiMa. :,-::'".:.,
~ow old were you at that time'l
~
years.
A11d\lhat
18.
type of progr~
did you enroll
in?
I wanted to take up mining engineering.
:ABd:
-* vas .largetl because a e~
tormer
classmate ot mine in Ohio had described Michigan Tech, -.d ~s description
was very
interesting
and induced me to came to Houghton.
Rec~ing
that
weH: ed:Chas.
WeJ.J., I was
first
year.
how did your progress
soJ.eJ.y determined
not
to
f'ail
in
go?
any
I didn't do ~~~g
but my coJ.J.ege work. I didn't
and conf'inect-~1i-£tr~J.y to college work.
Art:
Chas.
Art:
At that
time were ~
the students
~ar"'".
singJ.e
+.ho
subject
take part
OJ.888
that
'l"Q:"= went
QG~
year "that
first
in any outside
activities
o~ Tech. men?
Yes
~
'M-a.-,-ew...
your
summer
those
early
years.
did
you
work
at
ail
with
a mining
Chas. I didn't
understand
Art:
'Jere you ever employed by one of' the 1.ocal mining
or as a summer job?
oBi
~
~"-,
training
As part
Chase
Yes
Art:
MG;::~
of
as part
ot
that.
Chas. No.
For summer jobs I did work tor Michigan
I instructed
in surveying.
Art:
canpany
work?
that
work
and part
of
your
College
companies as part
of' Mines as it
of' your
was then known;
clusvork
hd you go into the mines at that time?
Chas. Yes. At that time the freshmen students had periodic trips t like c~s
periodic trips into various mines. oh. probably halt-dozen mines .~that
first
time I had ever been underground.
: had
was the
2
ARt:
Can you remember the first
time you vent underground?
Chas. Yes
What was it
like!
1111
~: Chas. Oht~t
c..fJ
what I had expected. i~~~ first trip V&SAthe Atlantic
Mine near Houghton~
~
!hey had some enormous oaken stokes underground that Burprisi~stOOd
without
caving and that impressed me.
)
Did)'"Ou visitor
talk with
any of the miners when you went down?
.1~ -I~
Chas. No. very little.
Usu~y
those classes are about 15 or 20, and there wasn't
opportunit7
to talk to any individuals.
Art :
~
~
that
you
time?
We~.
it
where
they
describe
~.')o
briefly
what
the
mining
operation
was like
of how the mining
you have any recollections
was just
about
wanted
an
what
I had
opening
and
expected.
charged
the
~e
miners
holes
with
simply
much
in that
mine
was actually
drilled
explosives
and
the
holes
blew
out
at
taking
place?
the. rock.
As simple as that!
y~
OK. You mentioned that
went to Pittsburgh.
I
Art:
vent
to
How long
Pittsburgh
following
after
I
your teaching
or your instruction
at Tech. you
graduated.
were you there?
).~
Chas.
6 months.
relatively
~/Y:
Art:
~ months.
It
That
was short
Oh. I see.
was a/short
because of ~
wiIaTI-
time;""
wife's
So when you returned
homesickness.
~
She wanted to cane back to Houghton.
what type of work did you take up?
I took up general engineering work and continued general engineering work. surveyi~c.-f'c1
and so forth in Houghton area for several years,.8ft8: I didn't
get a pe~ent
job until
1906 -- when I came to Tamarack as chief engineer of the big ~,~~-_:._plants.
Big
included Tamarack. Osceola. Isle Royale. Ahmeek. Seneca. ~~ere
were one or two other small ones.
Art:
That certainly
was a very responsible position.
a8d~ those early d~s,
some of the main concerns or problems that you faced in your work?
Cbas. We11 t most of them were prob1ems in surveying.
The underground surveying
to prevent the openings fram going on to the neighboring
property.
Art:
Were ~-I-~.~
the
Were they very deep?
Wi'
.,.s
Q8eB that
you were in
charge
of,,-eie
~~
extremely
what were
t
for
deep?
instance
t
u4J
3
Oh, ye&(~~~agk
was a vertical
Art:
So when the
~
shaft.
miners
No.5
went
Tamarack
down,
they
Shaft
reaUy
was 5,008
did
go down
feet
deep at that
time:
into
the
It
pit,
didn
that
they?
Chas. Yes, they did, and the thing that impressed me most was the t~perature
change.
The underground temperatures were practic~ly
constant and openings and increased as
you went down, at about 75 feet the ground teaperature remainR constant the year-around
here, then from that point on down, there's a constant, steady increase in temperature
as you go'" down; the, in the Tamarack Mine, the bottom at that time was around 88 or 90
degrees temperature.
That's the air temperature at that time and the rock t~perature,
drilling
sever~ feet into the rock and taking the temperature, the rock temperature
was sever~ degrees higher.
ARt:
So as the miners worked, it
the miners.
{Pefl8G~~
~~)
Chas. Hot,~,
Art:
many of them worked without
In those
early
were
some of
for
the
And
the
safety
It vas hot to work :for
them. t~ ~~~
any shirt.
was mining particularly
d8;y's,
Chas. Much more so than now.
What
was qui te w~
men
then
hazards
dangerous tor these men?
regarded
that
these
it
as
dangerous..
men might
have
faced/
~sides
heat~
aae:-
~.ss~
Chas. Well, going back on ~-..'c
explosions,
going back too soon, being caught on the delayed
explosion, that vas about the worst one.
Waa tb8~8 ~e!:~Bi~i~~c..:t.e,-~.il,
Fve tried to get a little
background~ I'm not
an engineer..
~-:
R~- i 8m _e~ m! __-g8_- - - , ¥-~~
or that well versed in mining
practice.
Gut I've done a little
bit of~pading
around the time of the copper strike.
~~ ~
&DR Just
prior
to that
time,
I believeifhe
one~
drill
vas instituted.
~
What sort of' impression do you have about the one-man drill
Was it an effective
help in production?
Chas.
I felt
that
the miners didn't
act very
~st
of them"pro~ably
opposed the one~
wisely
drill
that
used at that
in opposing o~ the one~
on the idea that i t wo~d
time?
drill.
decrease
~
employment.
Oh. I
see.
The one-man drill
and required
fully
Art:
And it
vas very much lighter
two men» the
one~an
than the old drill»
drill
could
be operated
the old drill
was heavy
by one man and was success-
operated.
vas
used
then
in
your
mines.
too'
Chas.~
We~ t since
because the
what
the strike~hat
vas a pretty
important
I mentioned
strike
recollections
do you
have
of
stands out in your mind about it!
the
I
s a question
development
strike?
Is
there
that I gener~7
ask of everybody
in the life
of the Copper Country;
anything
in
particular
that
4.
o~ that 1t was a very unreasonable thing.
way of settling it.
~re
should have been some other
happened t do you have ~
As you look back on the w&¥ things
have been done?
ww-- ~~.
~
How co~d it have been~~..
idea about what sho~d
settled?~
(~rlJ.j
w..£w
probably a c~ttee
of miners working t
s same representatives
the campany~ to make changes wherever necessary or desireable.
Art:
In other words, ~
Chas. ~.
.
ARt:
1t
or mediation,"
was very unreasonable
Do you have any recollections
a mixed
Chas.
arbitration
group,
in
terms
for the miners to continue
of the
of
of
mining
i,nationalities,
employees
weren't
with
no change.
themselves?
They were kind
of
they?
Yes, ~
the~
were.
~ ~ne amusing incident
was f4
that time records
of the men
were not kept very clearly,
aRd for
the m~
who applied
for work,
a new manz.often
times
he had a very
complicated
name.at*i'the
timekeeper
~d
sq,
you~1:
n~e
is
Smith,...
'0 he went under the name of Smith then.
ABt'that
name was apparently
adopted
outside.
(laughter)
So a lot
Chas. Bow~that
No, no.
ot people had their
doesn't
How did
work together
names changed
tor
practical
reasons.
occur.
these
different
nationalities
get
&long with
each other?
Did
they
fa1'f'~y well?
Chas
Very vell
Art :
Even though they spoke different
Chas.
k
Art:
Did they learn
languages?
They got along very nicely.
learning
English
each other's
so he could
aDd t.h~ ~.n~
,
Chas.
They
as fast
Art:
As they could.
tried
to
---=-=-
~~tyt!
language> or vas
manage?
~'" --"~Q
as they
Were most
e.f
i~ ,& ~tt~.
(Mp~A't"~.I
T 8&ia.
~~..'\the_Cro~~ian
0: ~~e ~nn
aia
.~e
":.8::'~~-
Me 'efte 1--:.nn
-or
co~d,
of' the~
D~l:'Y'"'ee ~Q-~
VA"'-
8=-~d
shift
bosses
~v
M
"'~U.l#
1~_t..~~a.I...s
~u~,,-
~-
Cba,8
6btfb
bvgg~~'
Vol. ...fufu~
'-Ql!bftu
Art:
w~~~~t
Chas.
Oh yes,
ARt:
Because tBe, t~m hsd .met?
~.
Cornish descent then?
most
of
them
were
at
that
time.
ifi-ey had had more experience
in mining~.
Chas. Well. they came across frCD CornwaJ.l.. EngJ.and,~eir
parents were miners and they were
anxious to continue the same l.ine of work. they were not very anxious to l.earn anything
el.se.
I;)W
Art: ~
the mines in which you were empl.oyed,ve_- -:=.f part of C&H'l
c/
5
Bo.
Bot
at
that
time,
because
it
was an entirely
separate
organization
Art:
ca..
a::a.¥~
Art:
1W-as this
ebss.
Chas.
WQO
.L"
lfu~a~a,
;y=
a practice
-.ftl~
also of the mines in which you were employ~?
I
done
by your
mines'J
the company that
you represented?
Was this
also
CIl, yes.
houses.
All the companies did about the same thing in regard to renting
Most of the miners ,~11
ved in company houses.
.bY
~
, you have any recollections
of your canpany
land to churche~~ ~ schools or some othe~
(o~,,~~~~~~~
Chas They were very
or
Art:
welfare
cooperative
organization.
that
improvement
60 there was a pretty
of
community.
good spirit
for
land
or leasing
.,
They would 1ease the 1and tor
respect.
Was it
What was the reason for this'
Bec &USe of
ARt:
in
giving
their
any church
improvement of the community?
~<.
of cooperation
at that
point,
Chas.
- ~eArt:
Let me
turn you
to a
little
different
of married,
question. were
When
you
were'1"--.'
i&--~
that
time,
and
your wife
were type
already
you
not?
emPlo~t
. -- '.
Where did you live?
Chas. I lived in a company house. company furnished
reasonable rent:
the rent was very low.
the house and charged a very.
It you ever had any kind of' problem as f'ar as illness
you do?
Chas.
In
my case
fUrnished
the
hospital
was across
hospi t~ization
the
and doctor.
Art:
Do you remember any of "those early
Oft_.
¥ee. tae R~e8 ef 'bbem?
APt .
!'s ,
:from. where
I lived
would go. what would
and the
ce~8e
company
doctors?
Chas. W&l, there vas Dr. Gregg..~
Art:
street
or sickness
very
at Tamarack"/'and Dr. Lovin< and Rt1odi.~
They were in the company employ then. ~
Chas. The company employed them and the company collected.
they
That's
collected
quite
a dollar
a bit
a month per
different
than it
fmni1.y.
And that
is tod8¥,
isn't
~en
I first
covered
it'
the
came with Tamarack,
physician
and hospital.
6
to $2 a
~en.di,-~,that
Chas. I don 't
EfVArt:
take placet
~all.
do you recall?
when that
just
was
Well. we talked a little
bit
to the mining industry here?
about the copper strike,
Was there any significant
~at happened during World War I
change that you recall?
:t
Chas. Yes. as I remember it .there were restrictions
placed on freedom of employees to go
fbout the properties.
Apparently the company was afraid of damage being done. ~
~nly a few days ago I ran across a badge that I had to wear. my picture was in the
badge and that was for identification
purposes so that an outsider couldn't go
freely about the properties..
Art:
How about
the
production
of
copper?
Did it
because of the war.
.!lfter
the
war things
slowed
down very
increase
during
much
Art:
And how did people weather those hard times?
What did
were you able to stick
it ou~~w?
~"H~ftg ~t£eee-
Gaa8o~
lie.
Chas. It
~~
World War I signitic~tly
people
do when that
happened,
.ot.;:;:"
d~'t
affect
me personally
affect
some foremen;
reduction
of salary.
because I was on a fixed
some formen
were
discharged,
salary.
I don't
know
~Jut
of
any case
it
did
of
natural
in finding out where same of the people went to when the7 had to move
tram the area~because same of them were laid off. I'. ae~~fDg.
I 1m interested
I can't
tell
you much abou1;;that
because I didn't
follow
them.
Chas. I don't know. I don't remember now whether they both increased at the same time,
or both decreased at the same time. I don't know whether that was true or not.
What personal
hobbies
tied up in your york?
~Chas.~}/h~~
I first
did
you have in those
days?
pl~
and fish
came to Tamarack, the hours were long so there
men,
bridge,..8d-1he
play
to
used
very imPO,1:~t.
women)
the
they did ;nothing
and
that
groups
things
different
had different
groups,
Chas.
Art:
Let me ask you now a little
different type of q~~ption, I've been talking to you pretty
much about mining and your involvement in that. ~at did you and your wife and family
do in your spare time? What were you active in? What did you do?
~)maIl
Art:
;e
or were you pre~ty
wasn't much tiae
'7
outaide
of working
time.
When you say long hours
how many hours
t
a day does that
amount to!
And you started work about-~~e
men started work .bout 1
So that
was
Sunday
a long
day.
off?
Chas. Nof worked Saturdays.
There wasn't
any work on Sund8¥ unless !~
was necessary.
~:
Chase It '8 pretty
h~
to recall
Chas. There was no automobiles
Art:
How did
~J.'
~~
people
"";fP~.
get
aroun
now what I did dQ
in those da;ys.
~
superintendentS
'n those
foremen
days.
of
Was there
~
~
e ~ning
a s~~_t
4- J
~
companies
-
T
car?
..L..
&
J~"~
were
supplied
by the companies t horse and buggy~
superintendent
simply
Chas. Well
.Art:
or
phoned the
t
I see,
foreman
barnj and the
I never rode a horse,
you
rode
wa&~-had
with
I
make a trip
had
supply
..Where he needed
him with
a horse
automobile?
When did you get your ~irst
t
~p
Chas. That I don't recall
now
'CoL.Y
~
~~""'.
u~--
And the roads, I SUppose, were pretty rough, too, veren't
~QO
Art:
rougn,
~
he
and buggy.
e. buggy.
Chas.
W~
~en the
a horse,
a bugg)'".
Do you remember when you got your first
:...
-';:; I
1 1J..J
with
horses
t
to
barn man would
always
~
they?
car?
Chas. No.
Art;
Were you
active
in
politics
in
any way?
Chas. Other than just being a~:~~:~~~...t;9.
,:AII;t
~=~~~::::==:~~~-~--=~
Chas. I was a delegate
J:-8I88 ,-
to a county convention
~
*8 08i~
for
just
you have any recollections
one year
of loc:8.l politics
in those early
days?
Chas. No.
Were the mining
Yes
t
company captains
pretty
active
in politics?
charge
o~ some o~ the
most o~ them were Republican.
-Md 'fere
they
and in
supervisors
important
positions?
CABS. Supervisors?
~
Art:
were they township
Chas. The organization
Art:
supervisors
was not
so very
and
different
:from what it
is now
In terms of the public
schools in those days. do you have any rememberances about them?
constant
Chas. Only that there 'WEa/effort
on the part-usually
that was under the control of the
mining canpanies,.-d~ey
usually tried to do what they could to improve education.
They were very good in that respect.
I'm sure part of that vas through ta.xes, of course. the
of the tax base for the schools, didn't
it?
mining company provided
much
Yes,
Did the c~&nies
bring
in school teachers?
Chas. They didn 't.~e
companies didn't take much interest
as long as the teachers
,- . - C?ar,~y, selected and canpetent. the companydidn it interfere.
How about the sports
Chas.
ft.:.!:!:
There
was very
li t'tle
doi~
in
that
1)) :"Q~ 6;;'-.-e ~"
...~"'.. tt:~
Q-.""...e
~A&t
line..
. ¥8..
(;:na.D. '11__- ~--
-~.,
~
fi-therp
~Q-
program ot the schools?
were
'tvu. !JJ.c~,"'bft
'I.I.~:
.
-'- ...\,.~...":M.
VQ,R
VA~r
1
~~~~e Sfl8P'S
aQ~~¥~ty?
¥8.
I,&il.
8fr.
Do you
?
9
~.e..
Chas
have any recollections
mind'?
life.-~~ly
and
pretty
that
type
Yes,
either
l've
been
strict,
of'
about
their
were very strict
in regard to church
especi~
on Sundays
personal
behavior
like
smoking
and drinking
thing?
very
to1d
too,
Do any stand out in your
or any ministers?
Cornishmen were Methodist.
A8a~y
attended church very religiously
Most 9{~he
Were they
of church li~e
good or else
that
there
very
were
bad.
quite
Very
(laughter
a few
saloons
or
taverms
li~tle
in
in-between.
those
early
days
Yes t there were many.
Art:
Was
Chas
It
£+-Art:
that
a big
didn't
problem
for
the
comwlni
ty'
No more than at the present
seem to be, no.
time.
'n"i&Q'u
-ee~
;5.8~at
about sane of the Finns J -the Finlanders.~ What recollections
do you have about them?
Did you have any kind of contact with them?
Chas. Very little.
other than was necessary in for to keep the work going.
who were ~~
Were there any Finns
trammers, a.nd
all
w~-~
miner~ ~
/
Chas. Most of the mining captains
I suppose the b~
foremen or were they mostly
There were a few Finns in lower positions.
were Cornish.
of them,then/were
regular
laborers~~
Chas. ~
'(Art:
Chas. Well,
time,
I d - .. ~
can't compare it to outside work because from 1906 on to the present
~
I've been connected only with the Copper Country.
Art:
c.-.
!_-ot.?
_11- "_8
no
Chas. Oh,!I wouldn't
say that
they were tough at any time.
w~
ADA
yoU linJ.~
.I)" you 1.ook back at your 1.ite and it ts been a very 1.ong and
~
1.ife, what wo~d you s8¥ has been your biggest accomplishment? What one thing or
thi~s
~hat you tve done. or said, sort of stands out in your mind as very important?
'-!Jet
Chas.
Well.
there
Tamarack
viously
that
orrice
been
anything
engineer
that
really
or the ~~~Al~~.7
stands
L
on I worked
bought
course~
as a geologist.
up these
other
mines
they didn't
want to
was closed
J and
that
engi
It
was
out
very
sharply.
I
started
in
mines.
I Damed same or those mines prea'L-.-=-~.~ I ~'.=£ .=.~
about 1912 and :from
and I worked as a mining engineer until
time
& Hecla
.-.fJr
hasn I t
as chier
around
1912 .titttle
later,
and consolidated
them with
their
maintain
two engineering
orf'icers
neer i ng work vas
that
Calumet
own operation.
so thej_~I.rJ,,"I~1oJ
taken care or by C&Horrice
then ...
.
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my-own case, the general manager offered me the job of organizing a geological
department.
up to that time there had been no geological department, -.d so I spent
the next 6 or 8 years getting together geologic al info~ation
regarding the district.
~1then
about 1920, Calumet & Hecla instituted
a very intensive
geologiCal survey of
the district.
They brought in 6 or 8 very high ranking geologists
from Harvard University
and conducted a very intensive
survey, geological
survey of the district
for
several years.
That resulted in 2 of the geologists who went with the U. s. G~logical
SUrvey being assigned the duty of writing
a report based on the work that was being
done by Calumet
& Hecla.
And you cooperated
And that
report
was published
and was a very
good report.
on the report?
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Chas. Yes
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So that
Chas.
's
one
of
your
major
accomplishments
then
geologist
~
that
project
Yes
Did you
Chas.
been
8ft&. j-eQ remai~
as the
until
retired?
Yes
problems that you encountered
Were there any special
the later
years?
in the mining
industry.
s~.
in
Chas. Later years you mean?
Like say the '40's
or the
'50's.
how did your geological
work differ.
say, fram the
'20's?
Chas. The 8raduate who was in charge~
came from Harvard.j8d I remember that u
;;:--~
when we were ~dergroundJ
several times he m~-e the remark "wel,ll liek this thing
very ~ickl~'
~at is J the solution of how the copper was deposited and how we co~d
discover those deposits of co~rT&8d ~e was very certain that that wo~d be aco~plished
but it was not accaliplished, "he end of that work came~well
it
went ~ong without
our knowing just
J
how the copper came into
it really
never ende~ but
the district
it was deposited~ ~y it was deposited in certain places and not elsewhere
where condit4.ons seemedto be about the same.
~¥~~.
and how
B.~~
...t
~--
As we trace developnent of the copper industI1'r to the present time, how would you
assess the present situation?
Is th~jor
reason why we're not in operation,
is it
due to production costs, or labor problems or lack of technology?
It was labor ditfic~ties
that closed the mines here at Calumet s and
the local union headss every time they got together with Cam~ representatives s they
had added new demandsand finally got to the point where the companysimply, would,. -
Chas. Labor problems.
no longer
~
negotiate
and announced that
they were closing.
that
11..
these local
authorities
were
union heeds in" their
they
Art:
demanded many things
~
~at
."te.k1~
a} very
unreasonable
stand ~POSed
demands~aae."f:r1eir demands were very much greater
that
White
Pine.
tor
instance.
specitic&1ly","",,:;-,;)
y}.;."t were some ot these
why I'm asking.
vas not
things?
the
than
local
-.
"g-~~"
paying.
I don't
know that
much
about it ~ that's
Chas. We~. I'm not familiar
fran time to time.
M"Art:
Chas.
Fram your vantage point, what ~
think that's
a possibility?
~-
f';-; 8~Ree.heB
-~-
going again~ew
Art:
with the labor
~~
take to start
but they haven't
~rspective
there's
still
And not only finding
~
Art:
them; how to mine it,
fair'.,
W-~~.8
._~here
better methods.
's same~weak ~epositB
Do you think
that
the future
of the
re-opened.
or do you see same other
Chas. It doesn't look that
replace it.
Art:
1)0 you think
Chas. At the
Chas.
that
present
Do you think
~;
it
succeeded in accanpUshing
there,
it
that's
still
copper deposits
that
possibly
Copper Country
possibility?
looks
manner.
could be mined if
hinges
as though the tourist
anything.
in the district.
I suppose, in an efficient
upon
the
industry
mines
we had
being
is starting
to
be tourism?
seems to be
the feeling
of most of the local
citizens?
I think so.
Well, that cert ainly would boost the economy,:ivouldn 't 1t.
going.
Chas.
Do you
right?
the hope of the Copper Country/voul.d
time,
what I absorbed
the mines going again?
cop~r
Chas. Oh, yes.
I 1-~.ersonally
~ think there's
But we don't know how to :rind them.
Art:
It' s just
either.
A:uumber of things have been done to try- to get them
organization~
From a geological
it
end of it
That strike
was a very unreasonable
heading
the union.
And you probably
fo~ow
these
union
leaders
regardless
thinking
for
if' we could get more tourism
thing.
And it
is due to very
incompetent
realize
how many of the members of the
of what the demands were;
they didn't
heads
union
would
do any
themselves
'tof,;.~L
Art :
Yes
Let
life
Chas.
'~e
me close
today?
that'
with
s
~.$'Ea one of
just
of life
,.
w
to
:t' d like
..;
I do.
'idently
~more
What are your
your philosophy
T_Y.
Chas.
I
t
the major
problems.
questions:
How does
feelings
now;
if
11 V8 a few years
you enjoy life
about
life
in
you can put it
more
a great
deal
a man of
general?
93 years
of
In other
in a few words~
aae
words
look
t
at
what t s
12.
What type of' activity
Chas. Well,
Art:
are you involved
in now, in your retirement
I stay home most of the time now but I enjoy it
the same.
O~ _e: ~h~ finally,
what Bort of impressions do you have about a project such as
this, to go out and talk to older persons about their memories, what type of feeling
do you have about that?
CRee. 'i,~R'+
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16~+ ~8e aPife
efl ebs~ ~~egb!:on
.
?
Well,
Chas. Oh
Art:
just
~ar8?
Well.
before
I don't
know whether that
I think
that's
a fair
we see what we get.
to
wi~
accomplish much or not
We'11. have to
assessment.
wait
ilDtil
it
's
finished
Chas. yH
Is
there
anything
Chas. No t I think
Irt:
that
that
you
covers it
think
of
that
maybe
we shouJ.d
have
talked
about?
prettY' well
I think we'll cl.ose now. We covered your mining quite
much &bout ~ech. I shoul.d have asked you a little
bit
contact with Tech ~i te a bit?
a bit;
more.
I didn't
ask you too
Do you still
keep in
No I don't,-
No.
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e'1"
Chas. But other graduates
of Tech
but in my case, myse~,
Art:
can
TeQh Q~8 &*-98'
hasn It it?
here in the Copper Country do keep in touch with Tech
I haven't.
eme:-~e~ 88 1i8e--Tech
has become almost
a major
industry
in the
area,
Chas. Yes. yes,
Chas.
,
"~when I entered Tech there were o~y
buildings
Ar'b :
~Ie~.
are gone;
seed.. ~ ~ai-
what is
on the
2 buildings
campus now is
~J81~
(end
new.
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