Find That Part Locating Used and New Components for Your Collector Car part numbers, model numbers or at least what vehicles were originally equipped with the missing parts. Many models were virtually unchanged from year to year and many parts were shared by a number of models within a line. However, sometimes specifications of mechanical parts changed several times in a single year. You may need to know the chassis number of your car to find the correct parts. And if your car has been around the block a few times, there is a strong possibility that it may have some incorrect parts already. Buy or borrow every book you can find about your car model including: • Restoration Guides • Historical Texts • Repair and Parts Manuals • Road Test Compilations You finally bought the car of your dreams, but it’s not exactly in dreamy condition. Maybe it needs everything from frame rails to a new engine block, or perhaps just lacks a few trim items that are long out of production. Locating parts is one of the things that collectible car owners must learn about, and the search can be as gratifying as installing the part or driving the finished car. A careful and organized approach will speed up and ease your search, but the first step is to do your homework. RESEARCH First, prioritize your wish list. For a major project you can break this down into must-have and would-like-to-have parts. For instance, you may need an engine, but you would like new armrests to replace the stained or cracked ones you have now. This allows you to prioritize your search and budget spending. Once you have a wish list, it’s time to look deeper. You’ll need to know the Once you’ve read them cover to cover, you’ll have a basic idea of what is correct for your car. However, some of the texts may disagree, so you may need to find experts to assist you. For more information about how to research your car, call Hagerty at 888-310-8020, menu option 3, to request a copy of Researching Your Collector Car. Key Point Make a complete wish list and prioritize every item. The Numbers Game Most manufacturers engrave or cast numbers on each part, but sometimes these can be deceiving. For instance, two identical alternators may have different part numbers if they were installed on both Corvettes and pickup trucks. To a collector bent on a perfect restoration this is vitally important, as it could mean the difference between first place and honorable mention at a car show. Also, the same information can save you a bundle if you just need a functional alternator for your Sunday driver. After you’ve completed your research, get a small memo book and write down your shopping list, including the part number and chassis number. Experienced parts searchers leave a copy in each of their daily drivers just in case they pass a promising salvage yard along the road. YOUR PARTS OPTIONS Sometimes you’ll have a choice between new reproduction parts, new old stock (NOS) parts and used parts. It all depends on how rare your car is and what you’re prepared to pay. New Production Parts Some parts are easier to find than others. If you have a popular collector car such as a classic Camaro, Mustang or Corvette, you’ll have few problems locating new parts. The market for these cars is large enough to encourage companies to remanufacture everything from small trim items to body panels. Many parts dealers specialize in one make or type of car, while others produce one type of part for a wide variety of cars. For instance, there are hundreds of companies, such as Ecklers™ (www.ecklers.com), which focus on Corvettes, while Bob Drake Reproductions (www.bobdrake.com) caters to flat-head Fords and Ford pickups, and others, such as Moss Motors™ (www.mossmotors. com), specialize in parts for most popular post-war British sports cars. Generalized catalogs, like those from Speedway Motors™ and JEGS™, sell thousands of performance parts for almost any racing or high-performance car. You can find these companies on the web or look for ads in car magazines from single-marque titles, including Super Chevy; Excellence, the magazine about Porsche; or Hemmings Motor News, which includes information for all kinds of makes and models. Key Point Not all new parts are created equal. Some are painstakingly reproduced and are indistinguishable from the original, while others are produced by the lowest bidder and may be both visibly and functionally different from the original. Be sure to compare new parts to old originals. New Old Stock Parts For the serious restorer, new reproduction parts are not the same as parts made at the time the car was in produc- tion. Usually an expert can tell the difference, thus leading to a strong market and high prices for new old stock (NOS) parts. These are parts that have been sitting unused in their boxes since they were new, sometimes for decades. Searching for NOS trim parts is worthwhile for authentically restored cars, but it is a waste of time and money for cars that will never be completely original anyway. If your car has already undergone an engine swap, or is a hot rod or custom, buy new reproduction parts when they’re available. Avoid using NOS mechanical parts inside your running gear, suspension or brake systems, as they may have deteriorated structurally from sitting so long. If you do use NOS mechanical parts, be sure to replace any seals or gaskets, because those will surely be past their prime. Used Parts A large number of cars that appeal to hobbyists are not well-supported by the reproduction market. If your heart lies with lesserknown machinery such as Nash Metropolitans, Hudsons or vintage Alfa Romeos, you’re going to have to do some serious searching. Even if you’re able to find new parts, you can often save a bundle by buying secondhand ones. Once you get the hang of it, you can even earn extra car money by selling or trading parts you just happened across and know are valuable. But searching for parts can be time-consuming, and if you haven’t done your homework it’s easy to end up with a pile of parts that “almost fit.” Make Your Own If you own an extremely rare model, hot rod or racing car, you may have to fabricate some parts from scratch or have them made. Skilled machinists or top restoration shops often have the skills to help you, but the price will be high. Often, with a little work, it’s possible to adapt and fit readily available new or used parts from a more popular car. Brake and suspension parts are sometimes interchangeable between makes, but damaged trim parts usually must be repaired or fabricated. It helps to find a friendly counter clerk at a local auto parts store who’s willing to help match your old parts with the store’s current stock. Independent parts stores, small local chains and many NAPA dealers are often the most willing to go out of their way for you. If they go out of their way to help, give them all your business to show your appreciation. Key Point The Internet can be a gateway to many sources of information and parts most hobbyists never had access to before. Search The Web There are many different ways to find parts, and you need to use every one of them. The best way to source parts and information for your car is to find the specific collector community that almost surely exists for your marque or model. These days most people start their parts searches by keying in a part name or car model into a browser. Using a general search such as “Buick” will return too many general links. Something more specific, such as “Buick parts” or “Buick engines” will get you closer. The internet is a great source of specialized websites where you can access historical data and chat with other enthusiasts. For best results you may want to start with the following sites: Join a Club • www.ebaymotors.com THE HUNT BEGINS Your search for used or obscure new parts will be easier if you make new friends and contacts who share your passion. There are clubs for just about every make and type of car. Single marque or model clubs also come in many shapes and sizes: • National marque clubs • Local chapters of national marque clubs • National registers or clubs for models within a marque • Internet club or discussion groups for a specific marque or model Some nationwide clubs have regional chapters where you can attend meetings and swap leads on your parts needs. You may be able to trade parts with fellow club members who are also interested in finishing their cars. Attending make-specific car club shows can be a big help, as you can inspect a number of models like yours and share information with the owners. Web-based car clubs now unite owners of rare models around the world, thus increasing the odds of finding parts and getting experienced advice from bulletin boards. Some of these cyber groups have been known to collectively have parts produced, from specialized bolts to internal mechanical components. For a directory of clubs near you, go to www.hagerty.com/resources. • www.google.com • http://groups.yahoo.com But be careful, because for every legitimate expert you’ll find a corresponding know-it-all chock-full of misleading advice. Once you’ve found a parts source on the web, be sure to ask club members and other people with a car like yours if they know of the company. You can often find parts at auctions, but try this only if you’re absolutely sure of the identity of the part. Although most live auctions focus on entire cars, some offer parts – particularly rare and high-end components. If you’re bidding on an online auction through a site such as www. ebaymotors.com, or can’t make it to the live auction, it’s easy to buy the wrong part because you can’t inspect it or compare it to your old part. Study the photos carefully and ask for more pictures if necessary. Use email to ask lots of questions, both to ascertain the condition of the part and to verify that the seller knows what he has. The odds are only about 50-50 that parts you pick up online will be in excellent condition. If you’re buying components that you intend to rebuild, the condition of the parts will be less of an issue. Don’t forget that after you buy the parts you still have to ship them home, so figure that into your total cost before you bid. Crating and shipping charges on heavy items can easily exceed the cost of shipping a rolling car. Even if the part is misrepresented, you will not normally be able to return it; so if possible, arrange to pick it up and pay in person, especially if it’s very expensive. If you can’t complete the transaction in person, using a credit card or PayPal may provide you with additional protection. Key Point Buying parts at auction is just the beginning. Remember to factor in the costs of getting them packed and shipped home. The Media The collector and hobby car market is well-served by specialized publications. One of the best is Hemmings Motor News, which features thousands of ads for cars and parts in every monthly issue. It also contains a section that lists upcoming swap meets. If you find a part that is particularly expensive or important, you may want to request photos or go see it before purchasing, or send a local friend to look it over and finalize the deal. Another good source of parts can be the Auto Trader publications available in many regions. Some publications even include “wanted” sections where you can run ads for what you’re missing. Be cautious when doing business long-distance; request photos and ask plenty of questions before sending money or giving a credit card number. Key Point Always open and inspect all parts packages immediately so you can report and return damaged or incorrect components promptly. Whether you source a part from a manufacturer, specialist or individual, open the packages immediately when parts arrive. If a part arrives and it turns out to be incorrect or of poor quality, you’ll have no recourse if you don’t check it out and return it promptly. If your restoration bogs down and you open the box three years later when you’re ready to install that radiator – too late – the supplier won’t want to hear it if the part’s been incorrectly soldered or won’t fit. Scour Swap Meets Attending a swap meet can be a lot of fun even if you don’t find what you’re looking for. You may come across a scale model of your car that you can use to test paint schemes, or pick up an old magazine with a period road test. And if you leave without having hooked up with friends or wolfed down a funnel cake or a sizzling barbeque sandwich, it’s your own fault! Locating what you need at swap meets can be difficult, so it’s best to work in pairs. Bring along a friend so you have two sets of eyes peering in every widget-laden booth. For listings of events, be sure to check either the print or online site for Hemmings Motor News (www.hemmings.com) or Old Cars Weekly (www.oldcarsweekly.com). Unlike web searches, here you can bring along your old, broken part to compare with ones that are for sale. You may find another part that does the job just as well, or that just plain looks better, and at a great price. But it’s vital that you know the market value of the parts you’re after. Whether buying at a swap meet, salvage yard or online, sellers don’t always know what they have and can overprice an item as easily as give you a bargain. Knowing the price of a new reproduction part can also help you negotiate a better deal on a used part. Be sure you know what you’re buying, as parts bought at swap meets are seldom returnable. Salvage Yards Before the days of reproduction parts, all automobile hobbyists were proficient at salvage yard hunting. A decade ago, most yards would let you roam around the rusting hulks until you found what you were looking for. Nowadays, most large salvage yards limit access to employees only and seldom have any cars more than a few years old. Once they remove the big parts they crush the rest. But outside the big cities there are still smaller yards that are friendlier to hands-on enthusiasts. Self-service yards require their customers to remove the parts themselves, so bring along any tools necessary for surgery, and be aware that they’ll inspect your toolbox on the way out. Don’t expect to get any technical advice or physical help from the employees, either. The good news is that the prices are reasonable and may even be structured. The top price allows you to return the part for your money back, while for less money you’ll only be able to exchange it for another. The bottom price includes no warranty at all. Key Point When you go to a “you pull it” junk yard, be sure to take your own tools and a friend to help you remove and carry the parts. There are also specialized yards that deal only in one make or type of vehicle. Yards that deal exclusively in Fords, Chevys, trucks, imports and collector cars are plentiful, but you have to know where to find them. • Start with an online search • Check your Yellow Pages • Try www.sweetchariots.com/boneyards.php for an online directory of yards with collector cars or www.gardenofspeedin.com/partslocguides/ index.html to purchase directories of marque specific yards. Employees at specialized yards tend to be wellinformed and helpful. You aren’t likely to find many bargains because specialized yard owners usually know what their inventory is worth, but you can save time by having them point you to what you need. As with swap meets, take your old parts and memo book with you for reference. Get Started Now Searching for parts can be the black hole of time, which is why many restoration shops charge extra if they have to locate missing items. If you do your own hunting, you can save cash and know what you’ve received for your money. It’s a skill that not only increases your pride and joy on the road, but can be a worthwhile hobby in its own right. Who knows, you may even find another project to start once the current one is finished! 2007-242 REV 11/09 Hagerty is the premier source for safety and protection information about the collector car hobby. For more information on enhancing your collector car ownership experience, log on to www.hagerty.com or call 800-922-4050. This material is for information purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice. The information is obtained from sources believed to be accurate and reliable, but no guarantee is made that it will be sufficient or appropriate for every individual or situation. © 2009 Hagerty. 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