Getting Ready for Spring
11/16/11 05:00 PM - 11/16/11 07:04 PM
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familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): Good Evening everyone!
judi19: good evening
adasignorelli@yahoo.com: Good evening!
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): How is everyone doing?
saxena275: good evening
adasignorelli@yahoo.com: Great!!
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saxena275: good heard my son had easy time registering for his next semester
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familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): My name is Alison Spannaus and I am one of the
Assistant Directors in New Student and Family Programs. On behalf of our office, I am so
pleased that you could all join us tonight. We hope to be able to hear how things are going and
talk a bit about preparing for next semester.
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familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): That's great to to hear saxena275!
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): How is registration and/or preparing to register going
for everyone else's student?
judi19: my daughter spoke to her advisor and is ready to register tomorow.
kapgator: Will we have VoiP capabilities?
mmedina: when my son asked his advisor about CLEPping Spanish, the advisor had not idea
what CLEP was.
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): judi, that's great that your daughter was proactive in
seeing her advisor. They are a wonderful resource to use to make sure students are on the
right path.
adasignorelli@yahoo.com: When is due date for spring registration?
adasignorelli@yahoo.com: When is the final date for registration?
saxena275: what is the procedure if one of the roommate leaves to go into an apartment for
spring semester how do they put another student in a double room
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familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): I'd like to welcome Mickey Howard, the other Assistant
Director here in New Student and Family Programs to our chat.
kapgator: thank you, my son had to take one web core course this semester and was charged a
web fee. I was under the impression that web fee was waived if the student is taking live
classes as well?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Hello All! I apologize for being late but I am excited
to be with all of you and talk about what is happening now and what is on the horizon.
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mmedina
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): mmedina, the CLEP policty is stated in the
undergraduate handbook at https://catalog.ufl.edu/ugrad/current/advising/info/CLEPexamination-credit-info.aspx.
mmedina: thanks
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familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): kapgator, unfortuantely there are no VoiP capabilities,
however we do post transcripts of the chat online after for those who were unable to join us.
mmedina: Does anyone know what's UF policy on CLEP
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): mmedina, I'm sorry to hear that your daughter did not
have the best experience
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): adasignorelli, your student has until the day before
classes begin (January 9, 2012 for Spring term) to register. The specific date and time that they
are allowed to register is based upon the number of credit hours that they have and varies.
saxena275: Can my son request to move into a single as the room mate is planning to move
out for spring semester
adasignorelli@yahoo.com: The sooner the better!
adasignorelli@yahoo.com: When should my daughter apply for a scholarship or any form of
financial aid?
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familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): I'd like to welcome Lou Powers, one of the wonderful
Academic Advisors in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences to our chat.
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Thanks, Alison. It's great to be chatting with you all
this evening.
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Saxena275 your student can apply for a room
change or preference at any point... however there is no gaurentee that they will be able to
accomodate the request. I would suggest having him go into the Housing office or call the
office at Phone: (352) 392-2161 for more information.
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kapgator: What is the policy please on course web fees if student is taking live classes as well?
LisaSil: I see the spring meal plan is due Friday...so soon. Is there a problem if I get the
payment in a little later?
adasignorelli@yahoo.com: Can the meal be paid by differ payment?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): adasignorelli your daughter should be receiving
more information about scholarships via an email in the next few weeks. Also I would suggest
her visit the scholarship page for her to serach for what she may qualify for. Check it out here:
http://www.uff.ufl.edu/scholarships/
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): kapgator: If there is an extra fee for a course, it is
generally listed in the schedule of courses so that a student is aware when they sign-up. Did
you have a particular course in mind?
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): LisaSil and adasignorelli, you can defer the meal plan
depending on financial aid packages. More information can be found at
http://www.bsd.ufl.edu/dining/mealPlans.asp or by calling Gator Dining Services at (352) 3922491.
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saxena275: How will they replace a room mate that is leaving a double dorm room
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Saxena275 is it designated as a double?
saxena275: yes
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kapgator: CHM 1025 stated had $25 CF for this semester. I was charged $50, I assume per
credit. But my son had to also pay separately for the course as well. I thought I read on the UF
website that that fee would be waived if student taking other courses same semester. He is
thinking of taking another web course Spring HSC3102 I believe, and that states $120 CF. Is
that per credit as well? thank u
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Then he can request a new roommate that would
like to room with him that would like to switch (he can ask his Resident Assistant about this
process) or he will have one assigned with him from someone on the waiting list or a student
that will be joining us in the spring.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): saxena275: does that help?
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saxena275: little bit can he request to move to a single as the room mate is leaving
mmedina: What is the web site with the transcripts of the chats?
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): mmedina, previous Family Chats can be found at
http://www.dso.ufl.edu/nsfp/parents/familyonline/.
mmedina: thanks
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Saxena275: he can request it but there is no
guarantee that it will be accommodated.
saxena275: Thanks Mickey
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): no problem, previous transcripts can be great to skim
over as we often have wonderful campus partners, such as Lou, join us when the topic is
relevant.
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judi19: Lou , Can the student choose to take an online class even if she doesn't need to? I'd
prefer that she not take one if she doesn't have to. She took the intro to Chem on line and
found it very difficult because she had to teach it to herself. She didn't have a choice with that.
She likes not having to get up early for a class if she doesn't need to! Are on line classes
advised for Freshmen? What is your feeling about them?
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gholl1: Are you still allowng "opt out" on housing contracts to accommodate the waiting list?
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LisaSil: Does Bright Futures cover online classes?
adasignorelli: What can you advise us to do in order for our kids to succeed this freshman
year?
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wbandetuf: My son said he spoke with his macroecon professor about his grade and his
warrington business adviser and the walk-in adviser. He was concerned because he got a D on
the first exam a C on the second exam and the grade for the class is based on four exams. He
was told that he might want to drop the class because when he figured out what he needed to
get on the next two exams he needed a 100% to get a B in the class. Apparently you can't get
a C in a universal tracking course. I spoke to other people I know and they said that doesn't
sound right. My son then learned today that perhaps you have to have a C+ average in your
universal tracking classes (all 8) but he still is unsure if that is the case. Can someone explain
this to me? Also, can he
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): gholl1 it depends on what housing says I hate to
defer the question I just want to make sure that you get the correct information. I would call
over to housing tomorrow (352) 392-2161 for more information.
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): LisaSil, as long as it is a UF class, Bright Futures will
cover onlnie classes.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Sorry for the delay--I was trying to confirm the CF
(additional course fee) for CHM 1025 (the $25 vs. the $78.71) but financial services is
currentled closed. It is my understanding that the additional fees are for the web related
materials regardless of whether a student is on campus taking other courses (or not). But I will
need to confirm that with financial services tomorrow when that office is open. Feek free to
email me directly tomorrow at lpowers@advising.ufl.edu.
LisaSil: Thanks Alison.
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wbandetuf: Part of what I said was cut off. Can my son take CLEP for the macroecon class. I'm
thinking with a little studying he can pass the CLEP and not have to waste his time taking this
class again especially if it is going to be online with the same instructor.
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kapgator: Thank you, Lou. Yes the fee for Spring has increased. My son was told by his ENT
prof that he had to wait until he had 45 credits under his belt to declare a minor. Is this
regulated differently per college? He wants to minor in ENTOMOLOGY and would like to
continue taking those courses. Can he?
saxena275: Are the grades for students posted on isis anywhere or its just given to the
students
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): wbandtetuf: Students can get C's in tracking courses
but it could make it more difficult to maintain the overall tracking GPA that they need. In
otherwords, they would need to get higher grades in other tracking courses. But this is
definitely something your student should talk with an advisor about before Monday (the last
day to drop classes) so that they can help them make the best decision with the information
they have from the professor as it relates to their particular major.
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): adasignorelli - I think the best thing that you can do
is to really balance challenge and support. These students need your help to succeed, I think
that you can be there for them and support them in their difficult questions or sticky
situations. But on the other side of the same coin you need to challenge them and tell them to
figure it out once and awhile. The point of college is to prepare them for the real world. By
balancing those times of advice and challenge it will help them grow. To much of either and it
can frustrate your or frustrate them. Balance of the two is key. (let me know if that doesn't
make sense).
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): kapgator: Yes, the university policy is that students
must have at least 45 hours before they can officially declare a minor. But they can go ahead
and start taking the courses for the minor they intend to declare before 45.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Saxena275 actually the grades are only available on
ISIS on the students screen. But students are welcome to share their access as they choose or
see fit.
gholl1
gholl1: My son is a finance major. He has 5 yrs of Spanish from high school and is considering
it as a minor @ UF. Does he have to apply to the Liberal Arts program to do this?
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adasignorelli: Thanks so much Mickey! It makes perfect sense!
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Grades will be posted on ISIS on December 21.
wbandetuf
wbandetuf: Thanks Lou. My son already dropped the class. Since his professor said that the
grade for the class would be dependent upon the 4 exams and nothing else he felt that there
was no way he could get a 100% on both exams. Also, when he spoke to the walk-in adviser
that person told him (my son) that he would be off track and that he would need to take 3
tracking courses in the spring to be back on track. My son wanted to take only two tracking
courses and then take microecon (a tracking course for business majors) at our community
college over the summer but the adviser said he would then have to pick a different major.
When my boss and I looked up this information online we found that not to be the case. So,
it's confusing as to what is supposed to happen
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familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): adasignorelli, I would also suggest encouraging your
son to step out of him comfort zone and try new experiences. One of the most wonderful
parts of attending a school the size of UF is the opportunities it provides. I find that often
students don't push themselves to try new things and that is where some of the best growth
opportunities can occur. Also, just being there for your student for when they want to talk is
one of the best things you can do. While students may not realize it now, having parents who
are there for them when needed is one of the key things that a parent can do.
saxena275: Thanks Mickey do the parents and students have different Isis screen ( sorry i am
asking maybe too simple questions) as i can go to isis but i do not know which tab has their
grades
wbandetuf: My son is supposed to register for classes tomorrow.
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): saxena275 there is no different screen and they
only post final grades on ISIS the other tracking grade information is on a different system.
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wbandetuf: Saxena 275 - There are different logins for students and parents. Your student has
to permit you to see his/her screen. I have seen both screens and the info is the same.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): wbandetuf: It sounds like your son made a good
decision since it did not appear realistic that he could get the grade he needed to be on-track
for his business major. I am not a business advisor but I do know that the tracking GPA for that
college is very high (3.0) so it would have made it very difficult for him to get back on-track if
he had gotten even a C.
adasignorelli: Thanks Alison!!
adasignorelli: Is there a special code for parents to see the grades in ISIS?
familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): wbandetuf, the best thing for your student to do is to
view the Undergraduate Catalog, which states tracking information for each major. The
Undergraduate Catalog can be viewed at
https://catalog.ufl.edu/ugrad/current/Pages/academic-programs.aspx.
kapgator: CALS requires a 3.7, I believe, to apply for the Honors college. Those students who
are currently being audited achieve that GPA or above able to apply to Honors college or do
they have to be invited?
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wbandetuf: Moderators, I have been on family chat several times now and I even looked up
last year's info as I was curious to see what parents and moderators had to say last year. So
far, I've come to the conclusion that Calculus, chemistry and engineering classes are extremely
difficult and most moderators say it has to do with the student not being able to synthesize or
conceptualize but nowhere does anyone seem to think that it has anything to do with the fact
that the teacher is not getting the info across to the students. Why is that?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): adasignorelli the only code that we know that exists
is if your student provided their log-in information. The other screen that is being referred to
is the parental log-in for payment and financial information.
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): kapgator: Each college at UF has different honors
criteria. This link describes the various college criteria:
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adasignorelli: Thanks so much.
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kapgator: FYI....ALL GRADES ARE POSTED ON SAKAI...get your child to give you the log in
gholl1: Sorry for the repeat, but I think my question got lost......My son is a finance major.
He has 5 yrs of Spanish from high school and is considering it as a minor @ UF. Does he have
to apply to the Liberal Arts program to do this?
saxena275: Thanks Mickey and Wbandetuf, so we can only see the final grade that will be
posted in Dec. and to see the other tracking grade info my son will have to give the info to me,
Is that correct?
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): sorry: honors link:
https://catalog.ufl.edu/ugrad/current/Pages/graduating-with-honors.aspx
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): saxena275 that is correct
kapgator: thank you Lou
wbandetuf
wbandetuf: Case in point, my son told me that his calculus professor told the students that he
had received a lot of emails because a certain assignment was due and the professor had not
covered the material yet. Apparently the professor did not realize this but only realized it after
receiving so many emails. My son said there were a ton of students at the broward tutoring
center trying to figure out the problems that were not explained in class. Thankfully, the
teacher extended the deadline when he realized he had not covered the material.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): gholl1: Yes, the Spanish minor is offered through the
College of Liberal Arts and Sciences. So he can apply for the minor once he has at least 45
hours but he can remain in the College of Business. Meanwhile, he can go ahead and start
taking Spanish classes. With that much background in Spanish, he should definitely talk with
an advisor about the proper placement.
Lorrie
Lorrie: My son is in engineering and having trouble with Calc 2 even though he is getting
tutoring help. He is taking 12 hours of credit. If he realizes he is not going to get at least a C in a
tracking course and chooses to drop it how will that affect his scholarships since he does not
have the 12 hours required to maintain the scholarshop?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): wbandetuf I understand that sometimes there may
seem like there is some disconnect between the professor and students. I think that your
point echoes the point home that the professor did alter his initial plan. But I also would say
that your student can always go to the college that the course resides in and let them know
about the issues that may be creating some disconnect.
karendaunn: Wbandetuf, I agree with you regarding the Chemistry and Calculus classes. My
daughter is really struggling with both classes. I purchased the "study edge" tutoring sessions,
and she still finds the class difficult.
debbihartman: who should my daughter speak with about her course track. I spoke to her
today and she seems overwhelmed
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): debbiehartman what is your daughters major?
debbihartman: pharmacy but that may change as she seems confused now
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Lorrie: which scholarship are you referring to bright
futures?
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Lorrie: The affect of dropping a course on a student's
scholarship depends on the scholarship. It is best that students speak directly with a financial
aid counselor before Monday (Nov. 21) since that is the last day to drop. They can then take
that information into consideration.
Lorrie: Thanks, Lou, I will have him do that.
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wbandetuf: I've spoken to a lot of my son's friends who are various majors (engineering,
science [they have chemistry and physics], etc) and they all say the same thing: they study like
crazy but when it comes to the exam the material they study is not on the exam; it's
something completely different. Why is that? I read a comment one parent posted last year
who asked the same question and the moderator said perhaps the student didnt' read the
text. One of the classes my son has the professor told him you don't have to read the
textbook and it's a really expensive textbook but when my son took the test he got a C
(different class than macroecon) and there was material on the exam that wasn't covered in
the web assignments, notes, or homework. How are our students suppose
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Lorrie: do you mean Pre-Pharmacy?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Here is the contact information for the PrePharmacy adviser Wanda Washington (pre-pharmacy majors)G205 Health Professions,
Nursing, and Pharmacy Building (HPNP)(352) 273-6400E-mail: wanda@ufl.edu
Nina_A: My son is having difficulty in finding a ride home for Thanksgiving, either Tuesday or
Wednesday. We live in North Port FL. He is looking to get a ride anywhere south of
Gainesville, ie Tampa, Sarasota,etc
wbandetuf: I got cut off again. How are our students suppose to excel when these things
happen?
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Bright Futures does require that students repay the
amount BF paid whenever a student drops a course. But that is really the only negative
consequence for that particular scholarship.
debbihartman: yes I did mean pre-pharmacy
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): debbiehartman: I just posted the Pre-Pharmacy
adviser information so that you can provide that with your daughter to set up a meeting to
discuss the issue further
Lorrie: Also, he has told me that even if he does understand what is covered in his calc class,
the quizzes are prepared by a TA that uses material that has not been covered in class.
Therefore, he is not getting the grades he might have gotten if the quizzes covered the
material that was covered in class.
debbihartman: Thanks I saw it.
bittare1: My (freshman) son is actually doing VERY WELL in Calc & Chemistry & all of his
classes in general. Will he have to APPLY for honors classes & housing next year, or can he just
"sign up?"
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wbandetuf: Nina _A - My son is coming home to Tampa on Tuesday. What residence hall does
your son live in? Mine is in Jennings. I'm not sure who else my son may be bringing home.
My email is wbandet@tampabay.rr.com Email me later.
Nina_A: wbandetuf Thank You. my e-mail is nia025@comcast.net
Nina_A: wbandetuf. My son is in Springs
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): wbandetuf: to the issue regarding the C that is an
average grade, and he may be use to to excelling very easily in previous classes and is just
adjusting to the rigor. As he had a second test in that course and seen any improvement?
saxena275: Congratulations bittare1 whats his secret
bittare1: He HATES the party atmosphere (really having a tough time socially!)
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): wbandetuf: I appreciate your concern about the
difficulty of some classes here at UF. Many of the students I talk with who are having troubling
in courses like chemistry, calculus and physics realize that they need to devote more time to
these types of classes and they did not do that early enough in the semester (and courses such
as these are very cummulative. We do have great tutoring services here at UF through the
teaching center www.teachingcenter.ufl.edu so I would definitely recommend they try that.
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wbandetuf: Please note that I looked up all the Bright Futures info when my son told me that
he was planning to drop one class and therefore going from 14 credits to 10 credits. Per Bright
Futures you have to have 24 credit hours in the school year which I interpret to mean Fall and
Spring. So I told my son he will have to take a minimum of 14 credit hours so as not to lose
Bright Futures. I've heard of several people losing their bright futures.
wbandetuf: He has to take 14 credit hours in the Spring so that with the 10 credit hours he
now has he will have the 24 credit hours total he needs.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bittare1: he will have to apply for both the honors
program and honors residence hall. Give me one second and I can grab the information that
your son will need.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Maybe this will help with BF questions: If you are a
Florida Bright Futures recipient, you should definitely check out SFA¿s handy renewal predictor
tool. To determine the 2012-2013 renewal criteria for your specific Bright Futures program,
simply input your Bright Futures scholarship program, your fall and spring hours for 2011-12,
and the predictor does the rest. More information: <A href="http://www.sfa.ufl.e
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bittare1: Thank you Mickey. Can you also tell me how he might be able to EARN $$ for tutoring
in those areas? (He needs a job!)
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Bright Futures continued:
http://www.sfa.ufl.edu/programs/bright-futures/renewal
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bittare1: Honors College application for lateral
admission: http://www.honors.ufl.edu/Lateral.aspx and housing is dependent on his
acceptance into the program.
wbandetuf: Thanks Lou. My son did go to a couple of the tutoring places. One had too many
students waiting in line. One had a TA that barely spoke English and seemed confused about
the material my son was trying to learn. My son decided to get help from Tutoring Zone which
helped him with his calculus and helped partially with his macroecon (he got a C which was an
improvement over the D he got on the 1st exam).
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Bittare1: Tutoring positions application https://teachingcenter.ufl.edu/_forms/employment-tutor.html
wbandetuf: He got a B on his calculus exam. The other exams I mentioned were his
macroecon.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): wbandetuf: Yes, some of the tutoring offices get very
busy this time of the semester. But I'm glad Tutoring Zone helped.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Have we missed any questions, we want to make
sure that we caught everything
bittare1: How can my student earn $$ for tutoring?
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): You guys have been asking great questions! Sorry if we
missed something.
joseealvarez
joseealvarez: Question. My son is a freshman but he came in with 54 credits. His declared
major is History but he wants to double major in Political Science or the new International
Relations major (probably the latter). He tried to take an INR class and he couldn't, we assume
that it was because of his History major. How can he get that INR class?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bittare1 I thought I sent it but here is the link to the
job application: https://teachingcenter.ufl.edu/_forms/employment-tutor.html
wbandetuf: Getting back to my original question. Can my son take the CLEP for Macroecon
once he has reviewed all his info? I noticed from the CLEP website that UF has a center where
this exam can be taken. Can he take the CLEP Jan 6 for example or are there set dates for CLEP
like there is for the SAT?
joseealvarez: He tried to declare double major but he was told that he needed 45 credits in UF
to do that.
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karendaunn: I certainly understand that some students may not devote the necessary time,
but that is not always the case. My daughter graduated from an IB program and is used to
rigorous and challenging work. She may not be a genius, but she is quite smart. She goes to
tutoring and studies quite hard. Like the other participants have stated, she has shared that
she will study for hours, attend the exam review sessions, yet when she goes to take the test,
its not what they expected.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): joseealvarez: Some departments do restrict their upper
level courses for students in their majors during advance registration to be sure the majors
have gotten in them first. But most lift that restriction next week on November 21 so he might
try again then for the upper level INR course.
mmedina: I'm also interested in wbandetuf's question regarding CLEP.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): joseelavarez: Students can't officially declare double
majors until they meet certain criteria such as tracking term 5 requirements for both majors.
But they can start taking the courses for both as early as their first semester.
judi19: What's you opinion about online classes?
karendaunn: Is Tutoring Zone a private tutoring company?
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wbandetuf: karendaqunn - I concur with you and what your daughter says. My son graduated
from the IB program too and is used to studying hard (not just memorizing since the IB
program does not promote memorization). He graduated in the top 5-10% of his class yet he
is having difficulty at UF. He clearly needs to be taught and I just wonder how much "teaching"
is actually going on especially when it comes to these online courses.
bittare1: When do our students schedule/choose their spring semester classes; does it
REQUIRE an academic advisor's guidance?
Nina_A: My son is having a hard time with online chemistry as he has never taken an online
class before.
joseealvarez: I see. Is there a document with the official requirements to declare double major
(say Political Science on top of History in this case)?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): karendaunn: I get to work with our students
everyday and if your daughter is like many others she is probably very intelligent. I think the
biggest thing is just learning the way the test will be administered. Taking a test or preparing
for a test is like preparing for a strategy game: they way the test will be formatted, what
material will be covered, and most of all the style and approach of the professor himself. I
know that sounds odd but it works. Question though has she gone to office hours to talk to
the professor?
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): CLEP questions: CLEP exams have to be taken by the
end of a student's first semester at UF (fall not summer) so the January exam would most
likely be too late. I would first suggest that your student talk with an advisor to be sure the
CLEP credit they might potentially earn would be beneficial for their major since CLEP exams
are not free. And, if so, then have them check with the Admissions Office to see if they would
still accept a January exam.
wbandetuf: Nina_A - I concur that online courses are extremely difficult especially if you have
never taken one and my son has two online courses. One he is getting an A and the other he
had to drop. Thankfully the one class involves assignments and other things and not just
exams only.
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Tutoring Zone is a private company.
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): judi19 - speaking with many students the opinion of
online classes varies. There are some misconceptions about online classes. They are just as
difficult and require a lot of self-motivation. Your student will have to schedule "class time;"
which is also the beauty that it is really felxible. If they are thinking about it make sure they
read the syllabus carefully and plan out accordingly. Does that help?
judi19: yes thank you!
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Double Major application form:
http://www.registrar.ufl.edu/forms.html
wbandetuf: The CLEP is only $77 which is far cheaper than re-taking the Macroecon at a
community college or UF. I'm seeing my son this Friday and plan to discuss CLEP with him in
detail. Thanks Lou!
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Nina_A: I know my son missed one assignment in online chemistry due to discrepancy in dates
given by the professor and the course itself, and he was told it's not going to count. He wasn't
the only one. Apparently there were a lot of other students that missed it.
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Lorrie: My son too is used to a rigorous course of study as he was salutatorian of his class, but
when he is tested on material that was not covered it is impossible to maintain the grades he
needs. I am going to make sure he contacts his professor about this as it is very frustrating for
me as a parent to hear his concerns and know that it is not just him as other parents are
conveying the same concern.
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Nina_A: Students should definitely talk with the
chemistry department if they feel there is some discrepancy.
Nina_A: Thank you Lou
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adasignorelli: My daughter is still undecided as what to study ... how can I help her?
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Lorrie: we always suggest going to the professor or
one of the TAs to discuss the discrepancy if they are not letting the people in charge know
nothing will ever get resolved or fixed.
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kapgator: May I ask which CHM course everybody is referring to and the professors name????
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wbandetuf: Sadly, students are afraid of repercussions for "telling" on their teacher. My son
also mentioned that he missed the one opportunity for extra credit in his macroecon class
because it was listed the first week and due the next week and he had not even signed on to
figure out how to do his online class. KAPGATOR- All the chemistry classes are difficult.
Thankfully my son is taking chem but his good friends are. One is a freshman and one is a
sophomore.
wbandetuf: My son is NOT taking chemistry (sorry).
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): adasignorelli: she may be unsure of what she wants
to do or what her talents are. Of course she can always go to one of the advisers over at the
College of Liberal Arts and Sciences/ Academic Achievement Center. You can also have her
visit the Career Resource Center which has personally and occupation tests. But just be a
listening ear and look for buzz words such as "I like this" or I am good at this" and encourage
her to pursue those passions/ what she is good at. I hope that helps.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): adasignorelli: We have one of the highest ranked
Career Resource Center in the country so I would definitely tell your student to start there.
They have great resources to help exploratory studetns. They also have a lot of on-line
services if students prefer to do self-assessments on-line: www.crc.ufl.edu
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Lou and I were on the same page and they were
actually just rated number 1.
Lorrie: Thanks, Mickey, I will make sure he follows through with contacting the professor or
TA.
saxena275: what i feel is during school the students get lot of spoon feeding from teachers and
being home it helps them to have the comfort and in college all of this gets taken away and
they have to mature so the first semester is going to be tough for lot of the students but they
will get to grow and figure out.
bittare1: When/how do our students schedule/choose their spring semester classes; does it
REQUIRE an academic advisor's guidance?
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Nina_A: saxena275 - My son made this comment that they are being babied in high school and
not prepared for college. He is very frustrated.
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): bittare1: Advance registration for Spring is going on
now. Most colleges/majors do not require that students see an advisor every semester (the
exception is Engineering) but I think it is always a good idea for them to meet with an advisor
prior to their appt.
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adasignorelli: My daughter has benefit from the Career Center very much. Thanks Lou.
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wbandetuf: adasignorelli - I can email you a link which I emailed my son last week. It's a 3
hour survey he said (questions and you have to provide answers) and helps identify your
child's strengths and what might be a good career choice. It is thru the UF Career Counseling
center. My email is wbandet@tampabay.rr.com Email me later.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Nina_A and All: I think the biggest difference
between high school and college is that the resources seek the students and in college the
students have to seek the resources.
bittare1: Appt? Is it up to the student to schedule an appointment? With who? (He is a Physics
major)
adasignorelli: Thanks so much wbandetuf!
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familychatmoderator(UF NSFP Alison): Unfortunately, I have to exit, but it has been wonderful
chatting with all of you this evening. Enjoy the rest of your conversation!
Nina_A: Mickey, yes, I agree with you.
saxena275
saxena275: once enrolled for spring semester , can they add or drop classes before the
semester begins or they do during add and drop period which is the first week of classes
wbandetuf
wbandetuf: Moderators, does anyone from the UF administration sit in on professor's classes
or checks with students while they are currently taking the class to see how the professor is
doing? I know the students can grade the teachers after the fact (after they have dropped the
class or finished the class). However, is there anyway of finding out how professors are doing
while the class is in session? e.g. late Oct/mid Nov
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): bittare1: Students are assigned a registration
appointment date/time. They will find it on isis under registration prep if they are not sure.
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bittare1: Thank you Lou (my son is very smart, but not always "on top of things!")
wbandetuf: Does the Dept Chair sit in on the class to see if the professor is explaining to
students the material that is to be covered?
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): wbandetuf: Students are given an opportunity to
evaluate professors at the end of each semester. Evaluations from prior semesters are
available online so that students certainly have access to that info before signing up for
classes. I'm sure if a department heard there was a problem with a particular class, they would
send someone in to observe.
wbandetuf: I know we had a math teacher at my son's school that many parents and students
complained about because she was not "TEACHING" the students. It took 2 years before the
teacher was moved to a different area (other than the upper division math class she was asked
to teach). I know she also 'TAUGHT' lower division math and apparently had a difficult time
doing that.
adasignorelli: Thanks so much for these great chats as usual!! God bless you all! Until next
time!!
bittare1: If my son wants to room in Beaty Hall (with the same roommate) again next fall,
when does he APPLY?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): wbandetuf: Our professors and faculty are pretty
autonomous when it comes to their courses. That may have worked in a high school setting
but the rules that govern college are very different.
joseealvarez: Where can they see past teacher evaluations? We have used the popular
ratemyprofessors.com but it would be great to have an official one.
wbandetuf: The exception to that is when the teacher is not listed for the class which was the
case for Macroecon. Also, it's my understanding that this teacher is new at teaching this class.
I'm not sure what he taught before but the long time professor that used to teach Macroecon
is no longer teaching it. My boss had Denslow 20+ years ago and said he was great. Why
couldn't his video continued to be used for the current students?
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): josseealvarez: UF student evaluations can be found on
www.isis.ufl.edu
joseealvarez: Thanks!
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bittare1: here is a neat guide for the housing
process http://www.housing.ufl.edu/liveon/re-contract.pdf
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bittare1: that is the returning student guide.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): are we missing any questions?
saxena275: yes i had asked about add and drop
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): once enrolled for spring semester , can they add or
drop classes before the semester begins or they do during add and drop period which is the
first week of classes - is this the one saxena275?
saxena275: yes
debbihartman: is there a way to see follow this chat at a later time?
judi19: thank you for your time and information. My daughter has been going to study zone
and it has helped her on the calc tests...
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wbandetuf: Lou and Mickey - This is merely a suggestion but my boss who graduated from UF
with an accounting degree told me she doesn't understand why Denslow's video couldn't
continue to be used. I know Denslow is still on campus. I have to go but I hope you will check
into the possibility of this or do you know why it can't be used?
judi19: Have a nice holiday everyone!
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): debbiehartman: all of our scripts will be available
on our webiste here: http://www.dso.ufl.edu/nsfp/parents/familyonline/
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): saxena275: students can register (drop/add) for Spring
up until December 20. Advance registration then reopens on December 22 (after fall grades
are posted) and stays open until January 5. Students can also adjust their Spring schedule
during the first week of class (January 9-13). Hope this is the info you needed.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): debbiehartmann: our next chat will be on
November 30, 2011 at 5:00pm until 7:00pm concerning finals and anything else you would like
to talk about.
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wbandetuf: Thank you for moderating this chat, Lou and Mickey (and Allison). I'll check back in
a few days to see what I missed on the chat. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
saxena275: yes thanks lou
bdjdlarsen
bdjdlarsen: This is a question regarding returning students applying for housing: If my son
wants to live on campus again next year (his sophomore year), is he guaranteed a spot or is
there a lottery system for returning students?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bdjdlarsen: if he pays the deposit he is usually
gaurenteed a spot. There is a lottery for location though. Here is the re-application process
information http://www.housing.ufl.edu/liveon/re-contract.pdf
wbandetuf: Good point. Before I leave, I am curious about the housing question also. I know I
have the FL Pre-Paid Dorm plan for two years so will my son be guaranteed a spot for next
year (his sophomore year)?
Lorrie: These chats are very informative and I thank you all. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): wbandetuf: in that same guide it provides some
addtional information about pre-paid.
bdjdlarsen: Is it like the freshman contract process in that the earlier you pay the deposit the
sooner you get to choose a room in the process? He would really like to remain in his current
dorm (Riker).
wbandetuf: Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Happy Thanksgiving to you all, as well.
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karendaunn: Happy Thanksgiving!!!
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bdjdlarsen: it is a complete lottery system and it
does not matter when you pay as long as it is by the deadline.
gmaer: HI, has there been any discussion about fraternity housing second semester, and
prepaid dorm already signed up for ?
gmaer: Sorry, odd phrasing. Wasn't sure this was still ongoing chat. Son wants to move into
frat house, we have prepaid dorm for this yr. How do we deal with this?
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): gmaer: it sure is still going
gmaer: I am glad I didn't miss it! We have been trying to figure out how this fraternity housing
works.
gmaer: Any tips?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): gmaer: unfortunately that is definately a question
for the housing department. I do not want to give you the wrong answer so I would have your
son or you call over to them and ask that question. Here is the number: (352) 392-2161. Sorry
to defer but when money is involved I want to get it right.
saxena275: if its FL prepaid call them they were helpful in giving me info about changing
housing options
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): saxena275 that was going to be my second option
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gmaer: Ok, I wrote that down for tomorrow. Is Fla Prepaid number the same as the housing or
do I call the State of Fla number?
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): State of Florda number would be the best option
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bdjdlarsen: Will my son be assigned a date and time to sign on to the housing portal like his
freshman year to select a room? If it's a lottery, how will their lottery number be assigned?
gmaer: Thanks; Here is a perhaps indelicate query: is administration aware of underage
drinking on campus, just looking the other way until ...
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bdjdlarsen: it is actually completely random. They
will be put into a lottery generator by the last four digits of their UF ID (just the system used)
and then it will just spit out the numbers in random order.
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): gmaer: UF takes this very seriously. In fact, before
students can register for Spring semester, they have to complete an Alcohol Eduation Tutorial.
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LUVIOLA: MY SON DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT HIS MAJOR FOR NEXT SEMESTER...
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bdjdlarsen: And that lottery number will be the order in which they get their room request?
gmaer: I would not like to be the one to suggest campus police police frat houses for booze
paid for by frat dues. Parents thus are subsidizing this alcohol consumption, and if disagree,
son does not get accepted into frat.....
LUVIOLA: ANY SUGGESTIONS?
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): gmaer: also our wellness folks really do a great job
of trying to educate students about the dangers associated with drinking alcohol and the
repercussions. Check out their website:
http://www.counseling.ufl.edu/cwc/parentsandfamilies.aspx
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familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): Luviola: Definitely have him complete some of the
online assessments at www.crc.ufl.edu as a place to start. We also have advisors in the
Academic Advising Center that work specifically with exploratory students.
saxena275: do the advisor inform them that they have to take the alcohol tutorial or do they
get email if they not done it as my son registered for spring already and i do not know if he
took it
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bdjdlarsen: yes... after the generate the order your
student will be assigned a time when they can log into the portal and select a room.
gmaer: When is deadline for spring registration for classes?
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): saxena275: there is a block (hold) on their advance
registration until it is completed.
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bdjdlarsen: Do most returning students who want to live on campus get to? The upper
classmen on his hall said they usually do. Is that true?
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): gmaer: Students are registering for Spring now. They
can continue to adjust their schedule until Dec. 20 and then from Dec. 22 until the last day of
drop/add for Spring (January 13).
saxena275: thanks Lou
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): gmaer: back to the fraternity comment here is
some more information on how to get in contact with the Sorority and Fraternity Affairs Office
for some of those concerns:
https://www.studentinvolvement.ufl.edu/SororityFraternityAffairs
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): Just about 5 minutes remain so get those last
minute questions in
gmaer: thanks, I appreciate these chats. Happy Turkey day to all.
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): gmaer thanks for stopping by
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bdjdlarsen: Yes, I asked if my son's chances of living on campus again are high or low?
saxena275: thanks for all the help here in the chat and also with our kids
saxena275: happy thanksgiving
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): bdjdlarsen: chances vary each year but pretty
good.
adasignorelli: Happy Thanksgiving to all!
bdjdlarsen: Ok, thanks. I guess he'll figure it out.
saxena275: one last question why do you have a game the weekend of thanksgiving making it
a difficult choice for kids
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): saxena275 we do not set the schedule it is just the
way the calendars fall each year.
familychatmoderator(UF Advisor Lou): It was been great chatting with you all. Thank you for
your great questions.
saxena275: just kidding good night and thanks
familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): hahaha thanks for coming
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familychatadministrator(UF NSFP Mickey): All right folks I think that is all the time we have. I
just want to thank you all for joining us for this chat remember you can find this transcript and
all past transcripts at http://www.dso.ufl.edu/nsfp/parents/familyonline/. Our next chat will
take place on November 30, 2011 at 5:00 pm est. If you have any lingering questions please
feel free to contact me Mickey Howard at michaelh@dso.ufl.edu. Thank you everyone for
coming. Happy Turkey Day!