Jane Austen Discussion ideas Ideas to discuss Etiquette of the time (social conventions Primogeniture & the Estate Friends and Family: importance Importance of virginity & modesty (lace) Mr. Bennet’s improprieties (ex. He does not escort his family to the ball) Town vs. city Trade (Bingley) vs. inherited wealth (Darcy) Social rank & inheritance money. Also, how Lady Catherine fits in. Lord and Lady Lucas, but only Miss Charlotte Importance of Rumors (news): Is it different today? Show Geneology from Rutherford to show Anglo-Saxon melding into Normal names Historical landscape (Napoleonic wars/marrying well) Discuss p. 149 117 “You shall not, for the sake of one individual, change the meaning of principle and integrity, nor endeavor to persuade yourself or me that selfishness is prudence and insensibility of danger, security for happiness.” Discuss Mr., Bennett as father p. 151 last para. 119 The Gardners p. 153 120-1 The custom of Ladies’ “at homes” 162 127 Where does discretion end and avarice begin? P. 168 131-2 Lizzie’s criticism of travelers who don’t know what they are seeing. [. 170 133 The importance of place: Hertfordshire, London, Devonshire, Longbourn, Rosings, Pemberly, Lucas Lodge, Gracechurch street, Grovenor street Sir William – absurd 170, 176, 178, 183 136,7,9,143 Mr. Bennett ever sardonic 328 250 The woman’s dowry & settlement. 332 253 Mrs. B’s joyous reaction to news of Lydia’s marriage 335-6 255-7 Discuss important background on Mr. and Mrs. Bennett & his profligacy. 338-40, 258-260 Discuss this chapter. He would jeopardize his other daughters’ futures for his own ease. Lady Catherine’s bad manners 180, 184, 190 140-4 , 148 Charlotte is clever. P. 184 143 Great satire on Lady C and the poor 185, 144 Is Darcy shy? 192, 150 Lizzie likes an informed mind p. 198 154 p. 199 Last sentence: What does “patronage in the church” mean. p. 214 166 Paper is a precious commodity Key to Lizzie’s prejudice 229 176 Good traveling companions defined 264 202 Visiting grand houses 265 203 Mr. Gardiner redefines “class” for Darcy 277-8, 212-3 Good definition of love 290 222 Proof of family weakness. Discuss why Lydia’s elopement would diminish Elizabeth’s hopes w/Darcy. 303 232 Gratitude and esteem vs love at first sight. Discuss a sound basis for falling in love. 304 233 Read & discuss chapter, 1st para. 307, 235 ; also 308 add remark about Mr. Benett to above discussion. Discuss renewed satirical tone re. Mrs. Bennett & Mary 315 (who is a prude/puritan remnant. Discuss Lydia’s letter 318 243 Mr. Bennett another failing 321 246 Typical human nature satirized 322 247 Discuss Mr. Collins’ letter 324 248 Lydia’s lack of virtue clearly derives from Mrs. B. 344 262 Is Lydia immature, selfish, redeemable, understandable, pitiable Chapter 51, p. 345-on 263-on Chapter 52 Discuss the concept of honor Humorous comment about them being sportsmen p. 374 285 p. 374 Mrs. B reads too much into good humor & common politenss. Jane Austen Discussion ideas Predictable bitchery of gossipers p. 339 Discuss passion stronger than virtue assertion 342 261 “Are you lost to every feeling of delicacy and propriety? (Lady C: irony) 392 298 A great rejoinder from Elizabeth that will make your ladyship…” 393 299 Mr. B is clueless. He never guesses Mr. Darcy’s role in saving his family & misinterprets both Darcy & Lizzie. 401 304-5 Key to the tone of the novel. For what do we live but to make sport for our neighbors and laugh at them in our turn. 402 305 The key to Darcy –he is stung by her noting before “Had you believed in a more gentlemanlike manner: 406 209 Lizzy wisely knows that Darcy can’t yet take a joke aimed at him.” 411 312 Mr. B truly does not do credit to Lizzy’s character” 416 313 Typically, he is selfishly glad to hear that Darcy paid for Lydia’s marrying because he will not have to repay him 418 317 Why does Austen have Lizzy enumerate the reasons darcy fell in love with her? 421 Sir Wm Lucas silly to the end 425 323 Austen’s real view of Mrs. Philips 425 323 Mr. B. delighted in going to Pemberly, especially when he was least expected” 426 324 Lydia- has she changed at all? 428 324-5 Why does she end with the Gardners? 430 326 Sir walter Scott” “That young lady had a talent for describing the involvements, feelings & characters of ordinary life, which is to me the most wonderful I have ever met with.” p. 377 287Funny bitchy comment by Mrs. B about Mrs. Long Irony: Mr. Bennett cannot abide presumption or folly. P. 381 290 Wickham, Lydia were all forgotten. Jane was beyond competition her favorite child. Mrs. Bennett & Philips are sisters in spirit as well as breeding and more satire on neighborhood gossip. 387 294 Lady Catherine’s very bad manners over & over again. 388-9, 295 The importance of “interest” monetary concerns. 392 298 p. 394, 300 Full middle paragraph Mr. C’s perception of Christian virtue. Ironic. 401 304-5 Discuss the way Austen handles love scenes 405 208 Discuss her line “think only of the past as the remembrance gives you pleasure” Jane & Lizzy’s very modern viewpoint on love in marriage 413 314 A key slip for Mr. B: “My child, let me not have the grief of seeing you unable to respect your partner in life.” 417 316 What is a special license. 419 318 Mr. B’s REALLY! Insultingly apt final (brief) letter to Mr. Collins. 424 319-20 The Collinses not in favor with Lady C. 424 322 Chapter 61 Written by Austen as persona (323) Even Bingly and Jane have to get away from Mrs. B. What does it mean that Lydia “retained all the claims to reputation which her marriage had given her?” 428 325 Austen’s “interest was in life’s little perplexities of emotion and conduct; her gaze was steadfastly ironical” p. 434 Jane Austen Discussion ideas Interesting characterization/themeatic quotes: Sir William Pride Men & Women (Jane & Bingley) What points does Austen make about men and women? Darcy wants conversation over dance and frivolity Miss Bingley! & the book! History of Mrs. And Mrs. Bennett Seriousness of a “little trifling cold” City vs. Country Value of books Bad manners Discuss all the ways/instances of bad manners Differences between Darcy and Bingley Key to the book “Follies and Nonsense” Mr. Collins is not included with the gentlemen Women’s accomplishments Pride & Virtue delineated Discuss Jane’s character Mary Dance etiquette: do NOT introduce self to person of higher social rank. & Do not leave last Mr. Collins opinion of women Mr. Collins’ living Mr. Collins’ proposal Elizabeth is either very brave or headstrong in dooming her family to poverty Charlotte, her mother, the Lucas family Discuss validity: “There are few people…merit or sense 17 19, 61 21-22 18, 50 25 23 27 24 58-9 48-49 28-29 25-27 37 & 45 32 & 38 39 34 46-49 39-41 55-56, 109-111 45-47, 87-89 50-54, 41-45 61 50 82 60 41 89 72 93 74-5 95 75-6 114 90 85-86 112 88 116, 91-92 119 94-95 135-6 148 117