MINUTES OF THE ROADS COMMITTEE MEETING – A AGENDA
HELD IN THE FIRST FLOOR COMMITTEE ROOM AT THE TOWN HALL ON
WEDNESDAY, 16 SEPTEMBER 2015 AT 9.30AM
PRESENT:
Constable S Crowcroft (SC)
Mr G Jennings (GJ)
Mr B Manning (BM)
Mr R Le Brocq (RLB)
The Very Rev R Key (Dean) (RK)
IN ATTENDANCE:
Mr C Barton (Procureur du Bien Public) (CB)
Mr P Pearce (Procureur du Bien Public) (PP)
Mr J Stievenard (Director of Technical & Environmental Services) (JS)
Mrs D East (Town Centre Manager) (DE)
APOLOGIES
Mr N Blake (NB)
Mr P Wade (PW)
OPEN MEETING
Having been previously circulated, the ‘A’ Agenda Minutes of the meeting held on 5 August
2015 were agreed.
MATTERS ARISING
218/15 WALKING/CYCLING
ROUTE - NO 32
BELMONT ROAD
Previous minute 192/15 refers
SC said the first meeting of the Cycling Strategy Working Group was scheduled for Friday 25
September 2015. RK expressed concern about cyclists travelling in the opposite direction to
traffic flow, JS said this was only legal where there was a contraflow in place eg Oxford Road. CB
expressed concern that the membership of the Group may not be balanced as a number of
members were cyclists. JS said that the remit of the Group was to try to push the Cycling Strategy
forward, as TTS did not appear to be making any progress, and the framework for the Strategy
had already been agreed by the Committee and any proposed changes would come back to
Committee for approval.
219/15 - PARKING –
VALLÉE DES VAUX
Previous minute 194/15 refers
SC said it was likely that there would be an appeal against the Committee’s decision.
AGENDA ITEMS
220/15 - TOWN CENTRE
MANAGER’S REPORT
DE presented her monthly report to the Committee, the following topics were discussed further:
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221/15 - REVISED
PARKING
ARRANGEMENTS –
CATTLE STREET
The traders groups are now meeting every 2 months;
National Customer Services Week takes place 5 – 9 October. On 9 October an ‘On the
Sofa’ event will be taking place in Broad Street where customers will have an opportunity
to meet traders;
Christmas events are already being planned including markets, the lights switch on and
window competition;
Feedback from the ‘Future St Helier’ consultation will be available in the coming weeks
and there is still the opportunity to comment.
Previous minute 79/15 refers
The Committee were asked to consider a request for revised parking arrangement in Cattle
Street which would enable The Halkett Pub, 53 Halkett Place, to have an alfresco area outside
their premises.
Plans have been submitted to extend the granite footpath outside the premises which would
enable alfresco dining yet maintain acceptable pedestrian movement north/south. The
Planning Application was approved on 21 May 2015 on condition that the single parking space
which would be lost in Halkett Place is replaced in Cattle Street. The unloading bay outside the
Caesarea Pub is large enough to accommodate three cars or one lorry plus one car and it was
deemed appropriate that reduction in the length of the unloading bay could accommodate the
lost space without adversely affecting commercial unloading.
A survey was undertaken of all business premises in Cattle Street to establish support or
otherwise, all but Island Lock & Safe Company at 5 Beresford Street support the change.
The Committee discussed the general abuse of unloading bays in the town centre and agreed
that this was a policing matter. JS said that the unloading facilities in the immediate vicinity
were adequate, eg provision in Beresford Street, and it was not felt reduction of the bay in
Cattle Street would have a detrimental effect on legitimate deliveries. It was felt that the
introduction of this alfresco area may lead to similar requests from other establishments in
Halkett Place which would have to be dealt with as and when arising. SC said the Planning
Minister had a vision to pedestrianize the whole length of Halkett Place but this was something
for the future. BM thought the wording of the questionnaire did not give opportunity for support
being given to the alfresco area in Halkett Place but not supportive of changes to the unloading
bay in Cattle Street. PP and BM felt the reduction of the unloading bay would disbenefit the
Fish Market.
The Committee agreed to the proposal to reduce the unloading bay in Cattle Street in order to
relocate the parking space lost in Halkett Place, BM abstained.
222/15 - CAR PARKING
DESIGNATION – RUE DE
TRACHY
Previous minute 61/15 refers
The Committee were advised of the results of the recent consultation exercise regarding car
parking designation on Rue de Trachy.
A total of 16 responses were received, one letter accompanied by a 77 signature petition against
any change of the current 3 hour parking restriction at the eastern end of the road, east of Old
Mont Cochon. The Committee agreed that as the strength of feeling indicated that the current
arrangements work satisfactorily that no changes would be made to the parking in this location
and the 3 hour restriction would remain.
With regard to the other locations, at the western end of Rue de Trachy, the consultation exercise
did not give any clear results and the Committee agreed to make a site visit as part of the Visite
du Branchage et Chemins on Friday 18 September 2015. It was suggested by a member of the
public that a site visit should also be made in the evening as this may present a different
scenario.
Following visitation of the site on the afternoon of Friday 18 September the Committee
agreed to introduce a 12 hour parking restriction.
223/15 - LATE NIGHT
TRAFFIC
ARRANGEMENTS –
MULCASTER STREET
Previous minute 211/14 refers
Detective Chief Inspector Chris Beechey and Inspector Mark Coxshall from the States of Jersey
Police (SoJP) made a request to the Committee to make the temporary late night traffic
arrangements on Friday and Saturday evenings, implemented because of public safety
concerns, permanent.
The arrangements had proved popular with only one complaint from a taxi driver having been
received. At present the measures can only be put in place when the situation is considered
dangerous but if the arrangements were made permanent this would make it easier for
members of the public driving around the area as they would expect the arrangements to be in
place. Permanent signage, automated if possible, would also be of benefit to alleviate the
temporary signs being put up, taken down and stored.
The Committee expressed concern that signage for some town centre events was often poorly
worded and left out too long after the event had taken place. GJ said that this was the sort of
decision that should be able to made by a Municipal Council (local government level) without
involving further consultation. It was suggested that a more permanent arrangement might lead
to requests for alfresco during the closure periods. Some concern was expressed about the
need for the arrangement to be in place during the winter months and the possible impact on
traffic if there were other temporary road closures in the vicinity eg maintenance in the Tunnel.
JS advised that if the arrangement was incorporated into the Road Traffic Order it would mean
that the arrangements would have to be put in place every Friday and Saturday evening. The
Committee agreed that although other proposals for changes had been raised, eg
pedestrianisation of Conway Street, that these would take a long time to implement and were
part of a bigger picture for the area. The permanent reversal of traffic flow in Church Street and
Library Place was also discussed but there were implications on the wider impact on the area
that need to be taken into consideration and it was agreed that this required further detailed
investigation. SoJP agreed to place advisory notes on cars parked in Library Place and Church
Street when the arrangements were implemented advising drivers how to exit the area.
The Committee agreed to support making the arrangements permanent.
PLANNING
APPLICATIONS
224/15 - ST MARK’S
ADOLESCENT CENTRE,
24 ST MARK’S ROAD, ST
HELIER, JE2 4LD
P/2015/1194
St Mark’s Adolescent Centre, 24 St Mark’s Road, St Helier, JE2 4LD
Change of use of residential home (Class J) to 2 No two bedroom flats and 1 No two bedroom
maisonette. Demolish existing extensions and construct three storey extension to north
elevation. Alter dormer to east elevation and install rooflight to north elevation. Replace door to
south elevation.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and comments as
follows:
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That the applicant submits a properly detailed and dimensioned plan showing the layout
of the car parking area. The Committee would expect to see at least one parking space
per flat being provided, each parking space is to be a minimum of 2.4m x 4.8m. The plan
shows no such provision therefore the Parish cannot support the submission.
If this application is approved by the Planning Department, the Roads Committee would like the
following items to be noted:
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225/15 - WESTAWAY
CHAMBERS, 37 – 39
DON STREET, ST
HELIER, JE2 4TR
That the refuse store and collection arrangements are agreed in detail with the Parish
Refuse Manager.
P/2015/1192
Westaway Chambers, 37 – 39 Don Street, St Helier, JE2 4TR
Convert office space to create 4 No two bedroom and 17 No one bedroom flats.
The Roads Committee does not support this application for the following reasons:
The Parish takes a pragmatic view of developments within the core retail sector of St
Helier and will generally relax its request for one parking space per unit. Whilst the
development of this site into residential units is broadly supported the provision of only
one third of the apartments with private off street parking is considered unacceptable
given the lack of nearby parking provision.
If this application is approved by the Planning Department, the Roads Committee would like the
following items to be noted:
226/15 - DE GRUCHY &
CO LTD, 14 NEW
STREET, ST HELIER, JE2
3TE
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That the requirements of the Highway Encroachments (Jersey) Regulations 1957 are
strictly complied with.
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That any windows bordering the Public Road or Footpath shall be of a type whose
opening lights do not open beyond the face of the building.
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That the refuse store and collection arrangements are agreed in detail with the Parish
Refuse Manager.
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That a refuse separation and recycling strategy is agreed in conjunction with the Parish.
A/2015/1196
De Gruchy & Co Ltd, 14 New Street, St Helier, JE2 3TE
Display 30 No fascia signs and 12 No projecting signs to west, south and east elevations.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and gives approval
provided:
227/15 - 10 LA
COLOMBERIE, ST
HELIER, JE2 4QB
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That the requirements of the Highway Encroachments (Jersey) Regulations 1957 are
strictly complied with.
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That the proposals are presented to the States Police as one or more of their CCTV
surveillance cameras are trained on the area and close up viewing may be impaired by
the sign(s).
P/2015/1205
10 La Colomberie, St Helier, JE2 4QB
Construct 1 No two bedroom dwelling to south elevation of existing dwelling with associated
roof terrace over existing extension.
Comments by Roads Committee on the previous application reference P/2010/1557 remain, as
it is noted that the issue raised has not been addressed in this application.
The Roads Committee does not support this application for the following reasons:-
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The provision of additional living accommodation within this town area without car parking
facilities cannot be supported.
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Please note that this area of town has insufficient parking provision, and adding additional
residential accommodation without parking provision will increase parking problems in the
area.
In the event that the applicant is able to address the lack of parking, the Committee would also
like to draw attention to the following:
228/15 - TELEPHONE
BOX G, BROAD STREET,
ST HELIER
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That the refuse store and collection arrangements are agreed in detail with the Parish
Refuse Manager.
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That a refuse separation and recycling strategy is agreed in conjunction with the Parish.
A/2015/1208
Telephone Box G, Broad Street, St Helier
Display 1 No digital advertising board to north east elevation.
The Roads Committee has no objections to the above submission.
229/15 - AUGRES HOUSE
AND AUGRES HALL,
OAKLANDS LANE, ST
HELIER, JE2 4JD
230/15 - HASTINGS
TERRACE, HASTINGS
ROAD, ST HELIER
P/2015/1229
Augres House and Augres Hall, Oaklands Lane, St Helier, JE2 4JD
Demolish existing two storey garage and store and construct two storey garage with store
above and basement store below, with roof terrace to north west elevation. Creation of vehicle
access to Augres Hall and alteration of existing vehicle access to Augres House. Associated
landscaping. (3d model available)
The Roads Committee does not support this application for the following reasons:
The proposed new entrance to Augres Hall will create a potentially unsafe access and
egress point from Les Ruisseaux and Oaklands Lane by virtue of its awkward angle of
approach to the highway and its lack of adequate visibility in both directions. Whilst a left
turn out of the proposed driveway to travel down Les Ruisseaux is achievable it will result
in a turning manoeuvre which requires the driver to use the opposite side of the road
(uphill traffic) which is not acceptable. Vision in both directions when exiting the site is
inadequate and the proposed entrance locality close to the corner has the potential to
cause conflict with traffic from Les Ruisseaux.
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Whilst not in the remit of the Roads Committee’s comments the adjustment of the existing
vehicular entrance will lose the symmetry and balance of its design including the loss of
mature plant growth.
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The adjustment of the current driveway appears to reduce its width from a dimension
which can presently accommodate vehicles in both directions and as this entrance
appears to provide access to nearby fields any reduction in its width is not welcomed.
P/2015/1252
Hastings Terrace, Hastings Road, St Helier
Change of use of hotel (Class F) into 10 No one bedroom and 9 No two bedroom flats.
Construct 5 No terraces and 13 No balconies to north elevation. Construct bin store to south
east of property. Demolish part of building to north elevation and construct extension to east
lower ground. Various external alterations to include installing, replacing and altering windows
and doors.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and comments as
follows:
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The Committee acknowledges that the applicant is providing 19 parking spaces for the 19
apartments, however it is noted that no visitor spaces have been incorporated into the
scheme. This should be included to meet Planning standards.
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The applicant should seek to provide bicycle parking within the scheme.
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That the refuse store and collection arrangements are agreed in detail with the Parish
Refuse Manager.
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That a refuse separation and recycling strategy is agreed in conjunction with the Parish.
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231/15 - 11 VAL
PLAISANT, ST HELIER,
JE2 4TA
That notwithstanding the above comments, this submission should be referred to the
Transport & Technical Services Department since the road in front of the property is a
States Main Road.
P/2015/1254
11 Val Plaisant, St Helier, JE2 4TA
Change of use from lodging house to 4 No one bedroom and 1 No two bedroom dwellings.
Demolish parts of building to south and west elevations. Construct various extensions to south
elevations. Construct bin store to south boundary. Various external alterations.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and gives approval
provided:
232/15 - HASTINGS
VILLAS, HASTINGS
ROAD, ST HELIER
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The applicant should seek to provide bicycle parking for occupants of the development.
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That the refuse store and collection arrangements are agreed in detail with the Parish
Refuse Manager.
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That a refuse separation and recycling strategy is agreed in conjunction with the Parish.
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That notwithstanding the above comments, this submission should be referred to the
Transport & Technical Services Department since the road in front of the property is a
States Main Road.
P/2015/1262
Hastings Villas, Hastings Road, St Helier
Change of use of ancillary part of Hotel Metropole to create 1 No new thirty five bed hotel with
manager's flat. Alterations to various vehicular access onto Hastings Road. Various external
alterations to include installation of door to south elevation.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and comments as
follows:
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Whilst the Parish supports the concept of retaining part of the existing structure of the
Metropole as a hotel concern is expressed that a total of 5 parking spaces are proposed
for the 35 bedrooms. This sector of St Helier has very few on street public parking
spaces and the nearby Green Street car park is at capacity during the daytime. Whilst it
is not expected that all bedrooms are catered for it is considered that provision for just
15% of bedrooms is unsatisfactory.
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That notwithstanding the above comments, this submission should be referred to the
Transport & Technical Services Department since the road in front of the property is a
States Main Road.
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That the refuse store and collection arrangements are agreed in detail with the Parish
Refuse Manager.
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That a refuse separation and recycling strategy is agreed in conjunction with the Parish.
233/15 - 4-6 PITT
STREET, 6-8 DUMARESQ
STREET, 21-28 CHARING
CROSS, ST HELIER, JE2
3NJ
RP/2015/1264
4-6 Pitt Street, 6-8 Dumaresq Street, 21-28 Charing Cross, St Helier, JE2 3NJ
234/15 - HILLTOR, LA
GRANDE ROUTE DE
MONT A L’ABBÉ, ST
HELIER
RP/2015/1267
Hilltor, La Grande Route de Mont a l’Abbé, St Helier
REVISED PLANS to P/2014/1497 (Construct five storey building comprising of retail, hotel
reception, cafe, office and service area on ground floor with 91 No bed hotel with restaurant
facilities, office and residential above): Increase parapet height and extent of enclosed roof
plant area.
The Roads Committee has no objections to the above submission.
REVISED PLANS TO P/2015/1486 (Construct single storey extension to north and east
elevations. Widen existing vehicular access. Various external alterations.): Omit demolition of
extension to north and amended extension to east. Construct extension to north. Various
external alterations.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and comment as follows:
235/15 - SUNNYBANK,
LES GRANDS VAUX, ST
HELIER, JE2 4GF
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That a minimum visibility of 30 metres is achieved between the driver 2 metres within the
access and drivers in the centre of the near side and off side traffic lanes. Everything in
the visibility areas so formed including gates, pillars, walls and plants growth to be
permanently restricted in height to 900 mm above road level. It is noted that the visibility
to the junction of Westhill is 40m, however there is no indication as the visibility length on
La Grande Route du Mont à l’Abbé. Applicant to indicate visibility distance for further
assessment.
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The comments raised by Roads Committee on 21 December 2012 ref: P/2012/1486
should be referred to.
P/2015/1271
Sunnybank, Les Grands Vaux, St Helier, JE2 4GF
Demolish existing dwelling and construct 8 No two bed units with associated parking and
landscaping. 3D model available.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and gives approval
provided:
236/15 - 26 QUEEN
STREET, ST HELIER, JE2
4WD
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That the refuse store and collection arrangements are agreed in detail with the Parish
Refuse Manager.
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That a refuse separation and recycling strategy is agreed in conjunction with the Parish.
A/2015/1270
26 Queen Street, St Helier, JE2 4WD
Display 1 No fascia sign, 1 No projecting sign and 1 No awning with signage.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and gives approval
provided:
237/15 - CENTURION
HOUSE, 17 BERESFORD
STREET, ST HELIER, JE2
4WN
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That the requirements of the Highway Encroachments (Jersey) Regulations 1957 are
strictly complied with.
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That the proposals are presented to the States Police as one or more of their CCTV
surveillance cameras are trained on the area and close up viewing may be impaired by
the sign(s).
P/2015/1222
Centurion House, 17 Beresford Street, St Helier, JE2 4WN
Change of use from Class A retail and Class C office to Class B restaurant to include ancillary
offices above. Install 4 No flag poles to south elevation. Various material alterations to include
installation of balustrade to second floor flat roof and replacing balustrades to south elevation.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and gives approval
provided:
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That the requirements of the Highway Encroachments (Jersey) Regulations 1957 are
strictly complied with.
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That no part of the foundations of the building may project under the public highway.
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The construction process and site servicing arrangements must be discussed with T&E
Services at development stage.
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That the proposals are presented to the States Police as one or more of their CCTV
surveillance cameras are trained on the area and close up viewing may be impaired by
the flags.
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That the refuse store and collection arrangements are agreed in detail with the Parish
Refuse Manager.
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That a refuse separation and recycling strategy is agreed in conjunction with the Parish.
238/15 - WATERLOO
HOUSE, DON STREET,
ST HELIER, JE2 4TQ
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That notwithstanding the above comments, this submission should be referred to the
Transport & Technical Services Department since the road in front of the property is a
States Main Road.
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It is imperative that this application is not determined without input from the Parish Refuse
Section. This large establishment will generate considerable waste and the storage,
recycling and collection facilities/arrangements must be discussed and agreed prior to
any permit being issued.
P/2015/1283
Waterloo House, Don Street, St Helier, JE2 4TQ
RETROSPECTIVE: Replace 5 No air conditioning units.
The Roads Committee has examined plans for the above submission and gives approval
provided:
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239/15 - ROSEDALE, 10
PATRIOTIC PLACE, ST
HELIER, JE2 3QX
The Committee would suggest that the applicant ensures that appropriate sound
attenuation is in place for neighbouring dwellings.
P/2015/1319
Rosedale, 10 Patriotic Place, St Helier, JE2 3QX
Demolish wall to create vehicular access onto Patriotic Place. Construct vehicular and
pedestrian gates with gate post to south west elevation.
The Parish has examined plans for the above submission and comments as follows:
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240/15 - DE GRUCHY &
CO LTD, PO BOX 18, 46 –
52 KING STREET, ST
HELIER, JE4 8NN
The Parish is concerned that the visibility splays to the south east (Gloucester Street) are
drawn to favour the space adjacent to No 12. It is assumed that two vehicles will be
accommodated on site and both spaces must achieve adequate vision to oncoming
traffic. The two rendered pillars reduce visibility and to achieve a satisfactory
arrangement it is considered that these should be removed and a ‘fixed’ section of gate
established at the south eastern boundary to improve vision to oncoming traffic. It should
be noted that visibility lines should terminate at the centre line of oncoming traffic. The
applicant is advised that a distance of 2.0m not 2.4m back from the kerbline is acceptable
on Parish by roads.
P/2015/1321
De Gruchy & Co Ltd, PO Box 18, 46 – 52 King Street, St Helier, JE4 8NN
New additional flagpoles and glass panel to King Street façade. Insertion of a new staircase to
the front corner of the building. Remove existing switch room. Additional plant to service De
Gruchy store.
The Parish has no objections to this application provided that the requirements of the Highways
Encroachments (Jersey) Regulations 1957 are complied with.
241/15 - 21 OXFORD
ROAD, ST HELIER, JE2
4LJ
P/2015/1364
21 Oxford Road, St Helier, JE2 4LJ
242/15 - LANDSCAPE
FARM, LE CHEMIN DES
MOULINS, ST HELIER,
JE2 4ZR
P/2015/1368
Landscape Farm, Le Chemin des Moulins, St Helier, JE2 4ZR
Construct first floor extension to balcony to east elevation. Various material alterations.
The Roads Committee has no objections to the above submission.
Construct second floor extension to north elevation.
The Roads Committee has no objections to the above submission.
243/15 - 1 DON
TERRACE, 59 DON
ROAD, ST HELIER, JE2
4QW
P/2015/1373
1 Don Terrace, 59 Don Road, St Helier, JE2 4QW
Construct two bedroom mews house to north of site.
The Roads Committee does not support this application for the following reasons:
The proposed development increases the number of units on the site with no provision of
parking facilities. Unless the applicant can show that additional parking spaces will be
created this development cannot be supported.
NEXT MEETING
The next meeting will take place on Wednesday 14 October 2015 at 9.30am in the Committee
Room, First Floor, Town Hall.