Short notes of ECCP meeting II 26 and 27 April 2007 by Anne-Marie Warris for IETA and ETG Attendance was good though less Member State Representatives this time The level of presentations were very high and there were some interesting issues Permit et al sessions reporting frequency - voice for more frequent and voice for status quo. Not clear which way European Commission (EC) will go site visits - I think we agreed MRG as Regulation not really supported although I detected a sort preference in EC smaller emitters we agreed they need to be treated separately but I think we recognised that there were small simple emitters and small complex emitters. IT big push Jos Delbeke (Chair) summary of first session: o importance of MRV and permit need better implementation across EC so more 'rules' but respecting subsidiary o cleared delineation of responsibilities within scheme o common system of accreditation for verifiers o support for common EC Agency (EU or Commission) to maintain and collect data etc o small installations Shipping - being studied but too early to tell and they are looking at a range of options Jochen outlined policy options of other gases and activities - nothing new I think except MRV will be centrally decided for opted in installations not up to MS Verification and accreditation session: Marco Lopreno very keen on control by EC and what he calls better institutional arrangements As far as Jos was concerned the issue of a centralised body for accreditation was premature to decide they may work with EA. The implication for what was said and from talks in the corridors as well as a question from Jochen is that EC wants to control and develop their own accreditation standard, their own verification standards and their own process. The Finnish model of competent authority (CA) issuing permits to verifiers and requesting additional material and information from verifiers as well as information such as mandays etc was to a degree approved of Verification keeps been beaten for all the ills of the scheme, which are more down to the large variation in verification scope, understanding of reasonable assurance and materiality. Clear support from EC, but not member states and others, for a central accreditation body controlled by EC and where procedures for verification and its accreditation would be controlled The USA SOx model was received with great attention many seemed taken with the 'simplicity' and 'elegance' of the model. Despite EPA Reid Harvey admitting that for installations it was more expensive but for the community at large it was cheaper Wolfgang Seidel added the voice that said verifiers should not forever be allowed to work with same company / site technical capacity of verifiers questions in terms of installation knowledge and also skills associated with statistical interpretation and analysis as required under fall back approach Jos summary: o learnt a lot o bridge work between Directive and other documents /activities o better implementation is the place to start and they will do so within 6 months o CA central but very different in each MS o o using same standard, how he will get there he did not specify. EC will look into this regular checks on Accreditation Body activities needed