ResearchProjectFeedback Rachel – tumbling Rocks - Let's take a closer look at power needs - good comment from Bret - AC or DC? ************************* Monica, Ken, Ben B - car charger - 34 kWhr per year? how many kW?, Meter 21448 kWhr per yr (which one?) Need to know how many kW = POWER needed Ken - can build charger for $1500 - wind + solar + battery + inverter (and tie into grid) FB- PSE will have to tie into grid campus solar lamppost costs $5000 - how much power? Amazon wind + solar $1500 - 150W HAWT vs VAWT - 4 ft diam HAWT 72 W/hr, less for VAWT - easy, educational, can be made with recycled materials - anybody can make these we DO have enough wind. There's more inside the trees than on top of buildings (X) PV: monocrystallin expensive, higher efficiency, black, lasts longer polycrystalline looks shattered, lower e, doesn't last as long film PV experimenta Wind - Cape Wind Project - people worried about bird and bat mortality - Audubon says more are killed (not by cars, but by fossil fuels) Ben on wind - 2 m/s from the south not ... continuous - best on the coast Wind Power Resources 0.61 km/hr. "Sustainable wind speeds". What does that mean? William - not convinced wind speeds are adequate. Units quoted are not consistent. Z: yes, William is quite right, about both units and wind speeds. Cite solar systems' POWER (kw), not energy (kw-hr). Power tells you the strength. Energy depends on the time over which the system operates. ******* Tashina and Jeff - Sustainable dog feces disposable? Wolf haven - bio fence - give wolf feces to rranchers to discourage wild wolf packs Could we compost dog feces on campus? Jeff - dog waste has issues - various nutrients - some plants could take over - pathogens - runoff can affect shellfish - TC advises against composting pet waste Tashina - Use it for landscaping, potted plants, mulch gas powered dog waste composter at Landfill Alaska dog mushers compost waste - need 3/4 lb per day, can reduce volume by 50% They BURN the feces? NO, they compost hot (if done right – this is not easy). Q - minimum number of dogs per day required for hot compost? Q - Monica Szarvas - how would you collect it? T - plastic collector bins? Do a survey first? Choose the highest concentration locations? Q - NK - observe where people run their dogs... - kiosks with biodegradable bags - educational component Q - does disposal area get contaminated? Gotta cook the compost Talk with SWWAB - is this legal in Thurston County ******* Water Turbines and that Pesky Rain - Jess, Megan Lande, Shania Micro-hydro - convert stormwater runoff to energy Can be efficient, cost-effective, low-maintenance Megan - financially sustainable? low energy producers... - good Q&H Pluvia gutter system - from UNM students - pump pushes water thru gutter system - pump requires too much electricity Evergreen experience - Andrew Cannard - ideas to improve - bigger building, better wheel... Downspout - little power, because we don't have downpours Megan - CRC (gym) or CAB (Greenery) - have big roofs Budget - but what's your idea? You just said none of these ideas were good? They propose to construct turbine Q - Brian - how can we figure out if it's financially sensible? Nick - how about redirecting the flow, and concentrating it? Shania - yes, they did that at our HW William - could maximize energy output with multiple turbines, conform to shape of gutter, have more flags Z - let's find that turbine that Andrew Cannard's group bought. Think about using rooftop tank, as WZ suggested earlier Bret - flywheel can store energy (Z - in lots of mechanical systems) ************* Urban forest - C sequestration - TREES Monica Szarvas, Bethany, Sarah W, Julia M, Elise V, Fletcher K CS - removal from atmosphere and held in liquid or solid form UN Declaration of Human Rights - put it in eerspective Clean Air Act 1970 authorized EPA to establish Nation clean air standards Evergreen's Carbon Neutrality by 2020 proposal Goal 3 - offsets and sequestration - we can help! Q: How effective are trees on campus in sequestering C? Old, young, diverse... Can more effective trees be planted on campus? H: - about species H - Consider ages and growth rates (z) MAP - create a planting plan - Species report 2007 Different kinds of CS - biogeochemical, manufactured, and BIOTIC Bethany - trees do it by creating rings (Z - wood!) - we want to make this more effective BUDGET - wait, how are you going to do this? What are you going to do? Fletcher - do trees sequester more carbon in their native environments? - levels of ecosystem productivity - urban trees in smaller groups - mycelium and communication Downed trees - how much C goes into atmosphere? how much into ground? Z - TIME - growth rates and CS rates of old and new trees now survival rates in the future Brian - ivy? slow killer Monica - would you consider planting non-natives? maybe, but nott invasives Dex - any tax benefits from CS? McKinzie - concern about mycelium? Fletcher - good answer, Monica S - doug fir needs mycelium to germinate - Beth - symbiotic relationship, repeat answer William - diff between trees Sean - difference between micorrhizal relations with difference trees Bret - whole tree is C - eventually gets returned - you want trees to grow forever Z - no more doug firs here in 50 yrs? what should we plant? See UW CIG (Climate Impacts Group) tree projections