Interview: Professor Malcolm McDonald Malcolm McDonald on Marketing Planning Steve Macaulay Today we are going to interview Professor Malcolm McDonald about his book entitled Malcolm McDonald on Marketing Planning. Now Malcolm, I wonder if you could give me some background on this. Malcolm McDonald The background goes back a long, long way Steve. I did a PhD, a doctoral thesis, here at Cranfield some thirty years ago – it might have been thirty two years ago. And I think I was one of the very few students in the world to be studying marketing planning as a process, as a physical, managerial process. And there wasn’t much written on the subject. And when I did my doctoral thesis I discovered why, because it was quite a complex domain. It involved organisational structure, organisational processes; it involved forecasting and budgeting; it involved strategy making and all of that. And nobody had appeared to have nailed that particular jelly to the wall. So I set about it in my PhD thesis. And when I had done that and got my doctorate, I became Doctor Malcolm McDonald, I thought well now I have done all that work, I might as well set it down in a book and share it with the world because the world was struggling with it. And what I had done during the book was to look at global best practice; I have looked at the best companies in the world and what they were doing – which incidentally is how theory is developed anyway. You look at best practice and you generalise it and then you promulgate, it either by lectures or by books or by articles and papers. I decided to promulgate it in all of those ways by writing papers, lectures, I started a programme here – a course which is still running called Marketing Plans, would you believe. It is probably our oldest and one of our most successful courses. It’s always full of people who want to come along from a complex world of business and learn how to put together marketing plans. So that is how it started. Steve Macaulay So let’s have a look at what exactly is a marketing plan because some people might think this is just an operational plan, but it’s much more than that isn’t it? Professor Malcolm McDonald Malcolm McDonald Well the first thing is the obvious – the blindingly obvious one of the difference between tactics and strategy. Most of the world is, I am afraid, tactical. Most of the world is pretty poor at strategy. There was a very recent – I think it was last year, I can’t remember the exact edition, but it was Harvard Business Review last year and this author he said that most directors in America, and this is in 2008, most directors in America – most directors, not some, most – don’t even know what the components of a strategy are and it causes confusion and chaos and short termism. So even my book and all the work we have done at places like Cranfield, we haven’t been particularly successful in communicating the core notion of strategy before tactics. Because it is easy to do tactics because we know our businesses, we know how to answer the phone, we know how to price a product etc. It is much more difficult in a complex, overcrowded world to find ways of differentiating yourself. Steve Macaulay Now you have a structured recipe for marketing planning that seems to work very well; can you describe what that is? Malcolm McDonald Yes. Any organisation, any board and the people who report to that board, who can’t actually spell out their market, that is the first thing, understanding their market. Because most companies today still talk about their markets in terms of products – the things they make – rather than the benefits and the needs that people have out there. So for example, IBM they nearly went bankrupt about fifteen years ago because they described their market in terms of mainframes which was clearly a nonsense. Gestetner did go bankrupt because they defined their market in terms of duplicators, and so on and so forth. It is a nonsense; you have got to define your market in terms of market needs. That is the first part of it; it’s understanding the market. The second bit of it is understanding, obviously, your competitors. So you understand the market, you understand the users, the consumers, the users in that market; you understand your competitors. You understand your own strengths and weaknesses compared with what is required in the market, and having done the really hard work, you can then go on to Knowledge Interchange Podcast Page 2 Professor Malcolm McDonald start developing offers or products or services to meet those needs better than your competitors. That is the process. Now obviously when you get that far you have got to start putting the numbers in and thinking about how much it is going to cost you and what the revenues are going to be and what the costs are. But you have got to do it over a period of at least three years. When I started marketing plans it was five years, but now most organisations in the world use three year strategic plans as the basis of their commercial enterprise. But I would say that the book on which it is based, the Marketing Plans text book, which has been out now for thirty years, has sold almost half a million copies worldwide; it is still selling like hot cakes because it’s simple, it’s doable. The one thing that differentiates, I think, my books from many others, not all books, is the fact that you take complex processes like that and make them doable, make them implementable. And that is what people like about the Marketing Plans book. Steve Macaulay And this is a complement to that, it’s a very much a how to guide? Malcolm McDonald The book, The Malcolm McDonald on Marketing Planning book is a slimmed down version of the main book because the main book has in it lots and lots of stuff for teachers around the world; people who teach marketing planning in universities. So it’s got DVDs, it’s got case studies, it’s got tutor’s guides and all those kinds of things. The Marketing Plans book that you are referring to is a slimmed down version for practising managers so that they can pick it up. It’s got templates in it, they can get 90% of the way there fairly quickly without having to plough through a 650 page long book that is more geared towards the academic community. Steve Macaulay So if you would like to leave people with a single message from the book, what would it be? Malcolm McDonald It would be if you cannot explain to your people why the market out there, having defined it, should buy what you are offering, rather than what somebody else is offering, then I would have failed and they haven’t read the book properly. Steve Macaulay Malcolm McDonald, thank you very much.. Knowledge Interchange Podcast Page 3