The Metropolitan Corporate Counsel Volume II, No. 3 © 2003 The Metropolitan Corporate Counsel, Inc. March 2003 Panel: The Capitol Hill Agenda - Working with Republicans in Washington The Editor interviews four leading Republican lobbyists with extensive ties on Capitol Hill and with the Bush Administration all of whom work for Preston Gates Ellis & Rouvelas Slade Meeds LLP: Slade Gorton, Gorton Of Counsel, Roger A. Morse, Senior Government Affairs Analyst, Dennis Stephens, Government Affairs Counselor, and Steven R. Valentine, Partner. Editor: I know each of you has literally decades of experience in Republican politics. Tell us about your backgrounds. Gorton: I was a United States Senator from Washington State for 18 years. I served on a number of committees including: Appropriations; Budget; Commerce, Science and Transportation; and Energy and Natural Resources. During my time in the Senate I chaired Appropriations Subcommittees on Interior and Aviation, and the Commerce Subcommittees on Consumer Affairs and Aviation. I also was a member of the Republican leadership as counsel to the majority leader. Before being elected to the Senate I served as the Attorney General of Washington State. I was recently appointed to the Commission investigating the September 11th attacks. I have been with Preston Gates almost two years. Valentine: Before joining Preston Gates, I had a 16-year Federal government career. I am a veteran of the Reagan and first Bush Administrations, where I served as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General at the Justice Department. I also served in the Senate as Legislative Director and General Counsel for Senator Bob Smith of New Hampshire. I also was Chief of Staff to Roger A. Morse Dennis Stephens Senator John East of North Carolina and Chief Counsel of the Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittees on Courts and Separation of Powers. Stephens: I have been at Preston Gates for over seven years. I began working in Washington in several departments of the Reagan Administration including the Presidential Personnel Office. I then worked on Capitol Hill for former Majority Leader Dick Armey as his top tax and budget staff person. I also worked for several other Republican Members of the House. Morse: I worked for 19 years in the House. I was Majority Leader Tom DeLay’s Legislative Director and also worked for Representatives Frank Wolf of Virginia and Van Hilleary of Tennessee. At Mr. DeLay’s request I also headed up the Republican Study Committee and the Conservative Staff Meeting, a group of 100 conservative House staff that develops action items on conservative policy matters. I also was privileged to lead a team of Republicans to Florida to help in the recount fight. Editor: The Republicans now control both Houses of Congress as well as the Presidency. First the Presidency. What does this mean for corporate America? Gorton: Even though the election showed we still have an almost evenly divided electorate, the shift in the political landscape was dramatic. This Administration, at this time, will be developing and proposing much of the national agenda. I can tell you from extensive personal experience that this President is Steven R. playing an extremely acValentine tive role in pushing for legislation to advance that agenda. Obviously Congress will shape and add to whatever they send to the Hill. But then post enactment, it’s back to the Administration to implement the law – to fill in all the myriad details that can have dramatic consequences for companies. Stephens: Corporate counsel need to understand that the pro-business Republican leadership in the Administration and the Congress provides an enormous opportunity for companies to get important issues resolved. This is the time to reach out and get involved in Washington. Editor: What about Republican control of Congress? Morse: In the House the Republican leadership can and will play an important role in making sure that priority legislation gets passed. I would say that that the emphasis will be on governmental reforms that will permit corporations to move ahead and succeed. Gorton: In the Senate the Republicans control the Committees and schedule the votes. That is a significant advantage. Valentine: Because the Democrats have the power to filibuster, the Republicans will ordinarily need 60 votes to pass legislation. But the Democrats can’t filibuster every bill, or even very many bills, and the Republicans have procedural weapons at © 2003 The Metropolitan Corporate Counsel. This article is reprinted with permission from The Metropolitan Corporate Counsel. their disposal as well. Editor: Are taxes really a hot issue for the 108th Congress? Gorton: Absolutely. A tax bill will pass. The portion of the tax debate generating the greatest interest is whether dividends should be largely tax-free on the basis that the corporation has already paid a tax. Valentine: This is a great example of how the Republicans will use their power to consider the tax bill under rules that will prevent a filibuster. Republicans will need only 50 votes – with Vice President Cheney available to cast the tie-breaking vote – to pass a bill. Stephens: Over the years whenever Republicans wanted to cut taxes, we always went for capital gains, and the reactions of the various interest groups were fairly predictable. The dividend proposal caught a lot of people off guard. I heard someone say recently that the reason the White House picked the dividend proposal is that in 1980 30% of the voters owned stock and in 2000 70% of those who actually voted owned stock. Morse: The White House is well aware that there is some reluctance on the dividend proposal right now, but they feel they will be able to push the debate the way they did in 2001. Corporations should pay close attention as the details of this proposal unfold and get involved early so that they can play a role in shaping the final version. For example, the proposal is to end double taxation of dividend income. But that means a corporation may have to apportion dividend income based on the percentage of its income that avoided taxation. There will be an opportunity to help shape the definition of the dividends that will be exempt from double taxation. Editor: So, corporations should carefully think through their position on the dividend proposal and other aspects of the tax package. Gorton: Thinking about it is one thing, doing something is an entirely different one. Companies and individuals need to be proactive on tax issues. They need to influence Members of Congress before a bill is introduced, and then they need to deal with all the details as they work through the legislative process. We have a complicated situation today with the tax bill. Agreements are still being made that will have profound effects on particular businesses. Gorton: I spent a great deal of my career advocating broad product liability tort reform, which historically fell to trial lawyer inspired filibusters. This Congress is more likely to focus on particular areas of abuse rather than broad based reform. It also is likely that this approach will see some successes. Stephens: Plugging into Washington is something that can benefit every company. A lot of companies see Congress as productive of nothing but trouble. This doesn’t have to be the case. If you get involved in the process early and educate the people on Capitol Hill, they will have the information they need to make helpful decisions. Morse: I agree that we will see product liability come up again with possibly a better chance of enactment. It certainly will be a priority among House leaders. Bankruptcy reform is almost assuredly going to pass and there is still an opportunity to make changes. Editor: How can corporations that want to achieve a specific result get plugged into Washington with help from Preston Gates? Valentine: There are those in Washington who are in a position to make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who say “what happened?” You can’t score if you are not in the game. This is true for legislation, regulation and administrative action. Morse: We advise our clients on what is currently on the table, what other issues are likely to be considered and what they can do to affect outcomes. Then we help them get it done. For example, a client may have an issue that is not being considered as part of a bill. We develop and implement a strategy for getting that issue considered and successfully resolved. Gorton: Remember, the legislative process – and rulemaking too — can open up opportunities. Don’t just play defense. We find that pending legislation can provide an opportunity to include provisions that can provide a positive benefit or correct an existing inequity. Too many businesses look on government as an undisguised enemy on every level. The government can help them, but it needs to know what is required to provide that help. Editor: What other issues should be on corporate radar screens? Gorton: Energy will be a major issue. Congress did not come close to passing a major energy bill in the last Congress, but the fact that Republicans control the drafting of the bills in both the House and the Senate probably improves the opportunities for energy legislation. Some of your readers’ corporations will be energy producers. Every one of them is an energy user. This legislation will have an impact on all of them. Valentine: Another issue is asbestos litigation reform. Senator Hatch has already announced that he will kick off the effort with a hearing next month. The Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman, Senator Hatch, has already announced that he will kick off the effort with a hearing next month. Stephens: Across the country, doctors are involved in demonstrations and even suspensions of medical service. Two thousand doctors recently protested outside the New Jersey State Assembly in favor of liability reform. I cannot remember doctors protesting anything. Somebody has clearly explained to the doctors that they have to behave in a grassroots fashion. They effectively dramatized the issues. The political system is going to feel that stimulus and respond. 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