(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/24/78 Image Reference:0001 BOARD OF TRADE, 7, W H I T E H A L L GARDENS, LONDON, S.W.1. GOAL INDUoTHf C O ^ S ^ l O f t I c i r c u l a t e , f o r the i n f o r m a t i o n of my c o l l e a g u e s , the a t t a c h e d Memorandum by the Coal C o n t r o l l e r . The p o i n t s r e q u i r i n g C a b i n e t d e c i s i o n are (1) The d a t e from which the owners are to be charged with the increased wages. (2) The d a t e from ; h i c h an amended Agreement or new Act i s t o become operative. (3) Whether the p r o f i t s of Ocke Ovens and Bye p r o d u c t P l a n t s are to be included. (4) Whether any allowance i s to bo made f o r additional c a p i t a l expended on the mines s i n c e 1 9 1 3 . A. C. GUBBUS, 1 5 t h A p r i l , 1919. Por the Q a b i n e t . GOAL IjjHJgjg COMMISSION. i n t l r i m mm mm. Memorandum on the interpretation on the arrangements necessary to of the I n t e r i m R e p o r t and give effect to i t s r e c o m ­ raeDelations as regards the limitation of the profits of the Coal Owners. The I n t e r i m Sankey Report p r o v i d e s ­ (1) That wages are to he i n c r e a s e d by 2 / - per day f o r men and 1 / - p e r day for h o y s , which i s equal to about £3Q,00C,0CO p e r annum. (2) , That from J u l y 16th n e x t 7 h o u r s i s to be s u b s t i t u t e d f o r 8 h o u r s as t h e ' d a y ' s work making a r e d u c t i o n of which i s e s t i m a t e d t o ' r e d u c e t i e o u t p u t by 10)6. t h i s b e i n g e q u i v a l e n t t o a r e d u c t i o n of prof i t s " by £ 1 3 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 f o r 6 m o n t h s , on an o u t p u t of 2 5 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 tons p e r annum, o r a t the r a t e of £ 2 6 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 p e r annum i f the r e d u c t i o n i n o u t ­ put continue. (3) 12f/ 0t That i n o r d e r p a r t l y to meet tlie i n c r e a s e d c o s t , the p r o f i t s to bo r e t a i n e d by owners are to" be l i m i t e d to an average of 1 4 d . p e r t o n of c o a l r a i s e d , , which on an o u t p u t o f 258 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 tons i s a p p r o x i m a t e l y £ 1 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . It is e s t i m a t e d i n t h e R e p o r t t h a t the s u r p l u s p r o f i t s over the Sankey s t a n d a r d , if" the r a t e of p r o f i t for the September q u a r t e r of 1918 c o n t i n u e s f o r the y e a r 1919, w i l l " p r o v i d e £30 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 t o w a r d s t h e i n c r e a s e d c o s t . I t should be n o t e d t h a i t h e g r e a t e r p a r t of tlie s u r p l u s p r o f i t s would under the p r e s e n t F i n a n c e A c t s be c o l l e c t e d ' b y the S t a t e i n J f t c e s s P r o f i t s Duty and would t h e r e f o r e to t h a t e x t e n t not be p a i d by t h e Owners but by t h e S t a t e . The e f f e c t of t h e a d o p t i o n of tbs Sankey R e p o r t on the c o s t t o the S t a t e i s shewn" i n the Appendix to t h i s memoran­ durc. In o r d e r to c a r r y the recommendations of the r e p o r t i n ­ to e f f e c t the p r e s e n t ' C o a l Mines C o n t r o l Agreement arid Con­ £ i r a a t i o n A c t , 1 9 1 8 , w i l l have to be amended o r a new K n a c t ­ ing B i l l passed through P a r l i a m e n t , I t i s a g r e e d t h a t the Average Rate of 14d. p e r ton i s t o ba d i s t r i b u t e d among i n d i v i d u a l u n d e r t a k i n g s by r e d u c i n g t h e i r p r e - w a r s t a n d a r d s i n t h e same p r o p o r t i o n t h a t £15 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 b e a r s to the a g g r e g a t e Pre-war P r o f i t s S t a n d a r d of the whole i n d u s t r y . The d e t a i l s of t h e - m e t h o d of d i s t r i ­ b u t i o n and i t s a d j u s t m e n t s are now bein^r d i s c u s s e d w i t h the Owners and a r e nor l i k e l y to l e a d to d i f f i c u l t y . The R e p o r t i t s e l f does not give any d e f i n i t i o n of " P r o f i t s " , n o r does i t s t a t e what the 1 4 d . i n c l u d e s . I t i s h e l d by Mr. J u s t i c e Bankey to i n c l u d e t h e p r o f i t s of (Joke Ovens and B y e - P r o d u c t P l a n t s , which a r e e x c l u d e d from the p r e s e n t ' C o a l Mines Agreement, and a l s o to i n ­ c l u d e i n t e r e s t on Loan C a p i t a l and r e m u n e r a t i o n f o r Oap­ i t a l i x p o n d i t u r e on t h e Mines t h e m s e l v e s i n c u r r e d s i n c e 1913 o r p r e v i o u s l y . The f o l l o w i n g i m p o r t a n t q u e s t i o n s a r i s e f o r (1) decision;­ -The d a t e from which the Owners a r e to he charged w i t h the i n c r e a s e d wage. I t i s c l e a r l y u n d e r s t o o d t h a t a s f a r as the men are concerned i't i s t o he p a i d from J a n u a r y 9th l a s t . (2) The d a t e from which the amended Agreement or iSnact­ i n g B i l l , whichever may be a d o p t e d , i m p o s i n g the new l i m i t a t i o n of p r o f i t s "and the c o n s e q u e n t i a l a l t e r a ­ t i o n s i s to'become o p e r a t i v e . (3) Whether the P r o f i t s of Coke Ovens and B y e - P r o d u c t P l a n t s a r e to he i n c l u d e d in the new s t a n d a r d of 14d. p e r ton of c o a l r a i s e d . (4) Whether any a l l o w a n c e i s to be made f o r a d d i t i o n a l C a p i t a l expended on the Mines s i n c e 1913. The 14&. i s b a s e d oh the average p r o f i t s of t h e 5 p r e - w a r years. (1) fjti fots froty.wfe.igli to Qmm m fa k s togsA with It is contended by the Owners ­ (a) That although i t was understood, so far as the men were concerned, that any increased wage awarded was to date back to January 9 t h , they were no party to this Agreement, and were not consulted. (b) That although the Goal Controller can order any increase of wage to bo paid and charged against expense i t has not hitherto-been done without a compensating increase in the prico of coal nor has i t been done retrospectively for more than a few weeks. (c) That the Government must themselves pay this money both for the arrears and future payments and get i t back through the operations of the Goal ffimes Agreement, so far m there are profits avail­ able. It'has bees arranged with the Coal Owners that the Government w i l l provisionally advance the money without prejudice as to who i s to be liable for i t s eventual pay­ The q u e s t i o n s t o be s e t t l e d t h e r e f o r e a r o ; ­ fa) .v.re tho Government or the Owners t o bo l i a b l e for i t s e v e n t u a l payment a s from January 9th l a s t u n t i l such date as i s imposod or agreed, upon for the determination of tho p r e s e n t Agreement? 1 (b) Are the Government t o continuo paying t h i s money weekly i n future a s required and t o t r e a t i t a s an advance to bo receovorod out of any p r o f i t s i n e x c e s s of the Standard? or (c) Will tho Government f i x a date a f t o r whioh the Owners themselves must f i n d tho money and charge i t a s an orponso of the b u s i n e s s ? I t should be c l o a r l y understood t h a t from the date a t which tho now Standard becomes o p e r a t i v e i t i s immaterial whether the a d d i t i o n a l wago i s payable by tho Government"or by the Owners. Tho Owners would, i n c i t h e r o a s o , r e t a i n in the aggregate 14& por ton of o u t p u t . I t i s l i l c o l y , t h e r e f o r e , t h a t i f t h e y wore r e l i e v e d of the l i a b i l i t y for the artra wago u n t i l tho now .'greoment or ,,ot oomos i n t o f o r c e they would accopt the l i a b i l i t y from t h a t timo onwards. (2) The date from which the new Agreement or Act i s to - - - - - - come i n t o force'.'. 1 Under the p r e s e n t Agreement the Owners are e n t i t l e d to the p r o f i t s ^ t n r ^ w ? of the f i n a n c e (No.2) . . c t , 1915. Under the Cankey llo^ort t h i s standard w i l l have t o bo reuucod to TMQ u q u i v a l e n t of tho 14d. per t o n on tho a c t u a l o u t p u t , both boing a d j u s t e d i n accordance with tho p r o v i s i o n s of tho Agreement r e g u l a t i n g the guaranteed S t a n d a r d s . Tho Owners contend t h a t thoy aro e n t i t l e d to tho b e n e f i t s of tho p r e s e n t :.grooment u n t i l i t i s terminated by n o t i c e . The agreement p r o v i d e s that a f t o r a c e r t a i n dato (which has boon passed) i t can bo torminated by tho C o n t r o l l e r of Coal Kino a a t any timo without n o t i c e . The date of t e r m i n a t i o n cannot bo made r o t r o s p o c t ­ i v o except by Agreement or by ,*ot of P a r l i a m e n t . I t i s suggostod that i t would be I n o a u i t a b l o to mako tho ;.gxooment r e t r o s p e c t i v e to the 1 s t January, tho Sankoy Beport boing accepted by tho Miners o n l y on .:-.pril 1 5 t h , u n l e s s an allowance bo made to the Owners for tho period from tho 1 s t January t o the 15th A p r i l of tho d i f f e r e n c e between the Sanfcey Standard and the guaranteed standard under tho Coal L i n e s Control agreement. If t h i s be conceded i t i s b e l i e v e d t h a t tho Owners would agree to c o n t i n u o to operate tho mines under an amended agreement, pending tho d o c i s i o n of tho Government on tho l a r g e r q u e s t i o n of n a t i o n a l i s a t i o n and c o n t r o l a f t e r the Second Report of tho Sankey Commission. In considering this important question it must bo borne in mind that at present the Government take all the profits over the Finance Acts Standard (subject to an allowance of 12$ for additional capital employed in ox-cess of that employed in the., standard period), except fffi of the excess, and that by fixing the date of the application of the now Standard as 15th Aprul, instead of malting it retrospective to the 1st January, they would only suffor to the extent, approximately, of the difference between the two Standards for 3-g­ months; which would bo equal to about £3,000,000. Whether the profits of Cojra Ovens and Bye ?roftugt flanls, wCTch are part jjjTjTToIiiery ^ldo^tTlfinf.;,u are, totooinoludod in tho^l4d, joor'Toh* i (c) The Coal Industry Commission Act brings witin the terms of reference of the Commission not only the Coal Industry but any industry commonly carri^e; on in connection therewith, or as ancillary or incidental thereto. nr. Shortt stated in the House of Commons .in the Committee StaQ-e of the Coal Industry Commission Sill as follows: "The intention is that in addition to enquiring into the coaling operations of the industry the Commissi should also be able to go into the question of coking ovens and any other bye-products ancillary to the Coal industry." ..." The average 5 year pre-war profits of 1/- per - t o n upon which llr* Justice Sankey based his standard of *jr\ include the profits of such Coke Cvens and Bye-Product Hants as were then in operation, but they were net included in the estimated profits of £54,000,000 upon which he based his calculations as to the deficiency. This question has been fully discussed between Lr. Justice Sankoy, Sir Robert H o m e and Sir Tvan Jones. "JSr. Justice Sankey states that ho meant -the Profits of those Coke Cvens and ByeProduct Plants which are under the same ownership as the Coal Lines to be included as part of tho profits of coal raisod, but that this would not apply to those Plants which, although thoy may lo situated at the Colliery, would not bo under the' same ownorship. He agreoe, howover, it would b.e just that an allowance should bo made for interest on Capital o;.ponded since 1913, or expended previously, but which had not bcoome productive until after 1913, on Coke Ovens and Bye-Product Plants, as an addition to the Standard Rate of 146 por ton or its oquivalont as tho case may be. The following points should be taken into consideration:­ (a) Coke Ovens and Bye-Product Plants are dealt with as a distinot and separate industry and are separately assessed by the Inland Revenue both for the purpose of Income Tar and Excess Profits Duty. (b) The Report states that the average standard Profit of 14dist** ton of coal raisod and ii f include t^o profits of is n^t n^nr^nnrf coke ovens and bye product plants. j0 (c) The C o l l i e r i e s havingOoke Ovens would t h e r e f o r e have l i t t l e inducement t o c o n t i n u e t ? work them, a s t h e y would s t i l l be e n t i t l e d to a p p r o x i m a t e l y t h e same s t a n d a r d p r o f i t p o r ton of c o a l r a i s o d i f they s t o p p e d t h e i r Coke Ovens. (d) The g r e a t development-of Coke Oven and B y e - r r c d u c t Plai d u r i n g the Mar was p r i m a r i l y due to t h e u r g e n t v/ar n e c e s s i t y f o r t h e s e p r e d i c t s , and t h e i r e r e c t i o n and development were a c t i v e l y encouraged by t h e Government and c o n t r o l l e d i n the i n t e r e s t s of t h e ' R a t i o n . Their p o s t - w a r development i s e q u a l l y i m p o r t a n t , (e) The Coke Ovens a r e e x p r e s s l y e x c l u d e d from the Goal iiines C o n t r o l Agreement ( C o n f i r m a t i o n ) i i c t . (f) Although the P r o f i t s of the Coke Ovens f o r the 5 p r e ­ war y e a r s ' a v e r a g e wore i n c l u d e d i n the I / - p e r t o n a v e r a g e p r o f i t of c o a l r a i s e d , t h e y amounted o n l y of c o a l they r e p r e s e n t e d a b o u t 6fd p o r t o n of c o a l r a i s e d , which would be i n c l u d e d i n the p r o f i t s l i m i t e d to 14d per ton. (g) The C o a l Owners s t r o n g l y p r o t e s t a g a i n s t t h e i r i n c l u s i o n , and d e f i n i t e l y s t a t e i t w i l l k i l l the i n d u s t r y a s f a r a s t h e y a r e o o n c e r r e d . They l a y s p e c i a l s t r e s s on t h e i a o ] t h a t t h e y a r e d e f i n i t e l y e x c l u d e d from t h e Coal ,lines C o n t r o l iigreoment by a c l a u s e i n t h e A c t , and p o i n t out t h a t t h e C a p i t a l i n v e s t e d i n the Coke Ovens i s i n tho c a s e of some C o l l i e r i e s a s much, if n o t more t h a n , t h a t i n v e s t e d i n t h e Minos; and f u r t i e r , t h a t only a s m a l l p r o p o r t i o n of the t o t a l number of C o l l i e r i e s have Coke O v e n s and t h a t "in consequence a v e r y i n v i d i o u s d i s ­ t i n c t i o n w i l l be drawn a g a i n s t t h o s e Owners who had e r e c t e d Coke Oven P l a n t s . t I f i t i s d e t e r m i n e d t h a t the Co3?e Ovens and B y e - P r o d u c t s P l a n t s a r e t o be i n c l u d e d lender the new Agreement t h e amount of i n t e r e s t t o be a l l o w e d in c o n s i d e r a t i o n of t h e e x p e n d i t u r e of a d d i t i o n a l c a p i t a l s i n c e 1 9 1 3 . r e q u i r e s to be d e t e r m i n e d . Under t h e F i n a n c e A c t , 1918 the f a t e a l l o w e d f o r iixcess P r o f i t s Dutv purposes is 9$. V/Jhether any a l l o w a n c e i s t o be made f o r a d d i t i o n a l , C a p i t a l expended s i n c e 1913, * I t i s c l a i m e d by the owners t h a t i n t e r e s t s h o u l d be a l l o w e d on c a p i t a l now employed i n e x c e s s of t h a t employed i n t h e p r e ­ war p e r i o d . I n so f a r a s the c a p i t a l h a s i n c r e a s e d t h e e a r n i n g c a p a c i t y of the u n d e r t a k i n g t h o Coal u i n e s C o n t r o l -Agreement p r o v i d e s f o r i t t o be r e w a r d e d , i i o r e o v e r , i n f i x i n g l i d a s the s t a n d a r d of p r o f i t a s compared w i t h tho o r e - w a r a v e r a g e of 1 / ' - , Hr, J u s t i c e oahkey h a s t a k e n i n t o a c c o u n t t h e i n c r e a s e in t h e c a p i t a l employed i n the m i n e s . I t s h o u l d be p o i n t e d out t h a t c a p i t a l i n v e s t e d in development s h o u l d l e a d to i n c r e a s e d o u t p u t and so to an i n c r e a s e in t h e a g g r e g a t e of t h e s t a n d a r d s p r o v i d e d for by Mr. J u s t i c e Sankey, but the owners contend t h a t t h e Sankey S t a n d a r d of P r o f i t s i s n o t s u f f i c i e n t t o r e n d e r t h e i n t r o d u c t i o n of f u r t h e r c a p i t a l r e m u n e r a t i v e e i t h e r f o r t h e p u r p o s e , of m a i n t a i n i n g the e x i s t i n g o u t p u t of m i n e s o r ' f o r new d e v e l o p m e n t s . 1 As a m a t t e r of. f a c t the Sankey R e s o r t i s a l r e a d y h a v i n g a marked e f f e c t i n a r r e s t i n g d e v e l o p m e n t . In r e g a r d t o t h e G e n e r a l q u e s t i o n of t h e s u f f i c i e n c y of t h e s t a n d a r d of 14d p e r ton of c o a l r a i s e d , as recommended by t h e Sankey Report , i t i s p o i n t e d out by t h e Owners t h a t t h e p r e s e n t reduced v a l u e of money as compared w i t h t h e p r e - w a r v a l u e h a s not been t a k e n i n t o a c c o u n t and t h a t the v a l u e of 14d today c o n s e q u e n t l y b e a r s no r e l a t i o n t o the value of 14d oefore t h e w a r . To p l a c e in r e l a t i o n to pre-war years f o r every V - t h e owners on t h e same b a s i s of p r o f i t t h e rjurchasing powers of money as i n t h e i t would be n e c e s s a r y t o a l l o w 2 / - today ia 1913. EYAIf j). J0KT.S. C o n t r o l l e r of Coal Mines, 15.4.19. (6) fi'1 01 Appendix. Sankey I n t e r i m R e p o r t . The Cost t o t h e S t a t e . The Sankey R e p o r t e s t i m a t e s £ 5 4 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 as t h e p r o f i t of t h e Coal I n d u s t r y f o r 1919. This f i g u r e i s arrived a t as f o l l o w s : The p r o f i t s f o r t h e q u a r t e r e n d i n g 3 0 t h September, 1916, were e s t i m a t e d a s e q u a l t o 3 / 7 d , p e r t o n on t h e ­ a c t u a l o u t p u t of t h e whole i n d u s t r y . I t was assumed t h t ; t f o r t h e y e a r 1919 t h e o u t p u t would be i n c r e a s e d t o 2 6 4 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 t o n s which would have t h e e f f e c t of r e d u c i n g t h e c o s t p e r t o n and t h e r e f o r e increasing the p r o f i t ' p e r ton by'6d. I t ms t h e r e f o r e e s t i m a t e d t h a t , assuming t h e a v e r a g e s e l l i n g p r i c e of c o a l ( i n c l u d i n g e x p o r t e d c o a l ) was m a i n ­ t a i n e d " t h e p r o f i t of t h e w h o l e " i n d u s t r y f o r t h e y e a r 1919 would be 2 6 4 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 x ( 3 / 7 d . * 6 d . ) 4 / 1 - £ 5 4 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 . The 4 / l d , p e r t o n i s e x c l u s i v e of t h e p r o f i t s of Coke Ovens and Bye P r o d u c t P l a n t s , b u t i n c l u s i v e " o f t h e i n t e r e s t on Loan C a p i t a l . From t h e £ 5 4 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 t h u s a r r i v e d a t t h e Sankey R e p o r t d e d u c t s £ 9 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , e q u a l t o an a v e r a g e p r o f i t of 8d p e r t o n over t h e wiiole o u t p u t , f o r t h e p r o b a b l e t a i l i n g off i n t h e p r o f i t s on Coal e x p o r t e d , which might; be due ' e i t h e r t o a reduction in t h e q u a n t i t y exported or t o a f a l l i n t h e p r i c e or t o both; thus bringing the t o t a l estimated p r o f i t s f o r 1919 down t o £ 4 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 - o u t of which i t a l l o w s £ 1 5 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 t o be r e t a i n e d by t h e Owners, l e a v i n g £ 3 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 a s a v a i l a b l e t o w a r d s t h e c o s t of t h e i n c r e a s e d wage and r e d u c e d h o u r s , which t h e r e p o r t e s t i m a t e s a t £43,000,000. T h i s e s t i m a t e of £ 4 3 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 i s Me up of £ 3 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 f o r one y e a r and £ 1 3 , 0 0 0 . 0 0 0 f o r incrca$ei for increased ed c o s t i o r s i x months due t o r e d u c e d o u t p u t f o l l o w i n g the reduction i n hours, I t h a s been e s t i m a t e d t h a t a r e d u c t i o n of I2ir& i n t h e working h o u r s r e s u l t i n a r e d u c t i o n of 10& i n t h e o u t ­ p u t w h i c h . TTotild i n c r e a s e c o s t s and r e d u c e t h e p r o f i t s by about £ 1 3 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 f o r 6 m o n t h s . As the shortened hours do not come into operation until July - the report estimates as the oost for this year (i.e. up to Deo. 31st. 1919);* — - £30;000,000. Increase of wages, for 1 year Less of output for six m o n t h s - — £ 1 5 . 0 0 0 0 0 0 . £43,000,000. Less amount to he recovered by limiting profits £30,000,000. 1 - Deficiency - £13,000,000. It must be carefully noted that this is on the assurcp­ tion that the abrurmal profits ma&i in the third quarter of 1918 will be maintedned, less the 8d per ten allowed for a falling off in the profits of the Export !Erade. fhe Sankey Report speculates' (p. 11 ) on a decrease in the estimated reduction of output, and on savings by economies in production, etc. As regards the first, although in course of tins seme decrease may be looked for, it is not safe to make any allowance on this account in present calculations. As regards the second, the limitation of Profits to a fixed rate per ton While it provides an incentive to reased outputi, gives no inducement to economy in working. Since Owners can be sure of their equivalent of 14d. per ton profit, even with antiquated methods, and can in no casetretain more, the oost of production becomes immaterial, and there is nothing to induce them to expend further Capital on improved methods or even to cheok extravagance or waste, further the same effect will be produced in oomneroial transactions. The price to be obtained for the ooal will be immaterial to the seller. In order to arrive at the oost to the State which will b e involved in the maintenance of the new guaranteed standard, after providing- for the oost of the increased wages and decreased output, the figures, for one whole year will be as follows, assuming the price to the home consumer is not raised;Profit assumed by Sankey Report Deduct - Increase in wages (1 year) £45,000,000 £30,000,000 Decrease in output (1 year) £26.000,000 £56,000,000 Lose £11,000,000- Owners Guaranteed Standard £otal deficiency £15,000,000. £26,000,000. The amount which should be provided in the estimate for 1919-20 T r i l l depend on the decision as to the date when the new, Sankey Standard of Profit is to come into operation. Assuming this date is made retrospective to 1st January so as to coincide approximately with the payment of the increas ed wages, the amount should be:Increased wages - 9th Jan: 1919 to 31st Dec: 1919 " £30,000,000 1st Jan: 1920 to 31st Mar: 1920 11 7,500,000 Decrease in Output - 1st July 1919 to 31st Dec: 1919 . " " " - 1st Jan: 1920 to 31st Mar: 1920 13,000,006 6,500,000 l^ooo^oT Estimated Profits on basis of September quarter of 1918, for year to 31st Dec., 1919 - £45,000,000 Do, on f i r s t three months ' for 1920 - £11,250,000 n m £56,250,000 Less Owners Guaranteed Standard for l i years - £18,750,000 37,500,000 Amount required to meet deficiency ' ­ £19,500,000 If on the other hand it is decided that the Sankey standard shall not be applied to the omera until some subsequent date.'then for every month i t is so deferred approximately £1,000,000 must be added to the Estimate. a L These estimates are on.the assumption that the assumed Sankey Profit .*.t the rate of £45,000,000 per annum ^will be realised and they are subject to increase or decrease in proportion to any variation in this assumed profit. The cost M the State should be regarded from the point of view that the l a c k o f incentive to economy w i l l be cumulative in i t s effect, and it is not reasonable to expect that the profits w i l l be maintained at the level of 1918. On the contrary, it should be considered that the maximum profits to be retained by the Owners w i l l become the maximum prof i t s of the industry, even if they would be maintained at that l e v e l . .BVAN D. JONES.