Week 3: Internal Controls, Cash, Shortterm Investments and Accounts Receivables - Discussion Trade Credit - Accounts Payable (graded) The ability to extend trade credit is a benefit to both sides of the transaction. The seller can increase sales while the buyer can conduct business without spending cash immediately. (For example, imagine you own a business the sells wood to construction companies that build homes. Using trade credit, the construction company can purchase the wood without spending cash immediately and you as the owner have more sales!) It sounds like a perfect relationship and it would be if people were not involved. Let’s take a look beyond the obvious and discuss the pros and cons of Accounts Receivable. Why do companies offer trade credit, and what are the problems? Responses Response Trade Credit Accounts Payable Author Dimitra Arrieta Date/Time 9/13/2012 10:47:24 PM An arrangement to buy goods or services on account, that is, without making immediate cash payment is Trade credit. For many businesses, trade credit is an essential tool for financing growth. Trade credit is the credit extended to you by suppliers who let you buy now and pay later. Any time you take delivery of materials, equipment or other valuables without paying cash on the spot, you're using trade credit. When you're first starting your business, however, suppliers most likely aren't going to offer you trade credit. They're going to want to make every order c.o.d. (cash or check on delivery) or paid by credit card in advance until you've established that you can pay your bills on time. While this is a fairly normal practice, you can still try and negotiate trade credit with suppliers. One of the things that will help you in these negotiations is a properly prepared financial plan. When you visit your supplier to set up your order during your startup period, ask to speak directly to the owner of the business if it's a small company. If it's a larger business, ask to speak to the CFO or any other person who approves credit. Introduce yourself. Show the officer the financial plan you've prepared. Tell the owner or financial officer about your business, and explain that you need to get your first orders on credit in order to launch your venture. Depending on the terms available from your suppliers, the cost of trade credit can be quite high. For example, assume you make a purchase from a supplier who decides to extend credit to you. The terms the supplier offers you are two-percent cash discount with 10 days and a net date of 30 days. Essentially, the suppliers is saying that if you pay within 10 days, the purchase price will be discounted by two percent. On the other hand, by forfeiting the two-percent discount, you're able to use your money for 20 more days. On an annualized basis, this is actually costing you 36 percent of the total cost of the items you are purchasing from this supplier! (360 ( 20 days = 18 times per year without discount; 18 ( 2 percent discount = 36 percent discount missed.) Cash discounts aren't the only factor you have to consider in the equation. There are also late-payment or delinquency penalties should you extend payment beyond the agreed-upon terms. These can usually run between one and two percent on a monthly basis. If you miss your net payment date for an entire year, that can cost you as much as 12 to 24 percent in penalty interest. Effective use of trade credit requires intelligent planning to avoid unnecessary costs through forfeiture of cash discounts or the incurring of delinquency penalties. But every business should take full advantage of trade that is available without additional cost in order to reduce its need for capital from other sources http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_companies_offer_trade_credit#ixzz26PtP2IdE Trade CreditAccounts payable Marie Roberts 9/18/2012 12:28:19 PM Companies may offer trade credit to encourage more or frequent buying. And it also encourages higher volume purchasing.It can also be good for small companies who may have limited cash on hand. Trade credit would allow these small companies to purchase such things as inventory on a regular basis. A few problems that may be associated with trade credit are growing interest fees and late payment fees for those who are extended the credit, those who extend the credit take on the risk of bad debt when having to write off unpaid accounts,and even accounts that go unpaid for long periods can have negative effects because the one extending the credit has to wait on their cash which they probably need to pay their own bills. RE: Trade Diangelo Miller 9/20/2012 5:15:49 PM Credit Accounts Payable Modified:9/22/2012 8:55 AM the pros are you will be making money like if I created something and walmart wanted to buy they might tell me to make a 100,000 of the item but they going to pay me three years from now walmart being a big business i will not say no. cons can if a company goes bankrupt while owing the money depending on the type of business you may not recieve the money for the work. RE: Trade Credit Diangelo Miller Accounts Payable 9/22/2012 8:58:02 AM pro with trade credit you do not have to pay for something at the moment you receive the good or service. con is with trade credit you pay more then you suppose to then if you had cash. RE: Trade Credit - Quintavious Mapp Accounts Payable 9/24/2012 9:40:03 PM Credit is paying for the now until money starts to flow in. Pros and Cons of Accounts Receivable Dimitra Arrieta 9/21/2012 10:37:22 AM Pros of Factoring Companies that don't use factoring must bill customers on their own, and it can take several months to receive payment. In some cases, a customer may never pay his bill, and the company must write the account off as a bad debt. When a company uses factoring, however, it can receive payment for all of its accounts receivable immediately. Factoring also eliminates the need for a billing department, thus allowing the company to focus its efforts elsewhere. Cons of Factoring Though factoring allows a company to receive money for its accounts receivable quickly, the company typically won't receive the total amount the customers owe. Most factoring companies pay only a portion of the value of the account. In some cases, a factoring company may pay a large percentage of the value upfront and a small percentage later if it is able to collect on the accounts, but all factoring companies charge a fee for their services. http://smallbusiness.chron.com/pros-cons-accounts-receivable-financing-34107.html Pros and Cons of Accounts Receivable Dimitra Arrieta 9/21/2012 10:38:14 AM Pros of Factoring Companies that don't use factoring must bill customers on their own, and it can take several months to receive payment. In some cases, a customer may never pay his bill, and the company must write the account off as a bad debt. When a company uses factoring, however, it can receive payment for all of its accounts receivable immediately. Factoring also eliminates the need for a billing department, thus allowing the company to focus its efforts elsewhere. Cons of Factoring Though factoring allows a company to receive money for its accounts receivable quickly, the company typically won't receive the total amount the customers owe. Most factoring companies pay only a portion of the value of the account. In some cases, a factoring company may pay a large percentage of the value upfront and a small percentage later if it is able to collect on the accounts, but all factoring companies charge a fee for their services. http://smallbusiness.chron.com/pros-cons-accounts-receivable-financing-34107.html RE: Pros and Cons of Bruce Burbank Accounts Receivable 9/23/2012 7:00:14 PM Dimitra, What is your opinion on the two, which are you in favor of? RE: Pros and Cons of Dimitra Arrieta Accounts Receivable 9/23/2012 11:46:25 PM My opinion which I favor is the con factor. I say that because a company may pay a large percentage of the value upfront and a small percentage later but I least they would not have a charged off account at the end. Pros vs. Cons Bruce Burbank of AR 9/21/2012 9:30:26 PM Companies offer trade credit as addressed above to grow business by allowing companies to get supplies without have to pay cash immediately . This allows more product to be moved and shows credits on the company's general journal as revenue. This is positive until it's time to collect from companies who can not pay for supplies received. This can cause most companies profit to suffer because of lost revenue and uncollectible debt. Also companies have to hire personnel to collect and track these transactions, this can be costly if your business isn't able to collect on the debt. Most companies anticipate a percentage of lost, but if they exceed that number it could bankrupt a company. RE: Pros vs. Professor Thomas Cons of AR 9/26/2012 8:08:10 PM This is a great point Bruce! Estimating what will go bad is a science ... but at the end of the day it is still an estimate. If a company experiences higher losses than they estimate, it may leave them in a financial bind! RE: Pros vs. Amirah Howard Cons of AR 9/27/2012 7:48:12 AM Great point, would you see yourself using this? Trade CreditAccounts Payable Marvalyn Richards 9/21/2012 9:43:09 PM Trade credits are offered mainly to expedite delivery of goods and to form good long-lasting business relationships. Instead of calculating and writing checks to prepare for purchasing, one can just order and do that later. It also increases sales. The problem is some people just order with no intention of paying, while some genuinely had intentions of paying but either the company is not making profits as anticipated, while others will be able to pay but just have unethical business habits. Reason why credit checks should be done before credit is offered, though even then problems could still arise. industries? Professor Thomas 9/21/2012 9:54:53 PM can anyone give an example of an industry where it is common that accounts receivables (trade credit) is offered to customers and one where it is not common? RE: industries? Bruce Burbank 9/22/2012 12:58:51 PM One company that always offer trade credit is a GMAC finance company, they are in the business to extend credit to individuals who are in the market to purchase a new or used vehicle. In most cases people don't have the cash for a major expense such as vehicle purchase. One industry that doesn't extend credit often is retail grocery stores, there aren't any 100% only grocery stores that extend credit, because they have to pay various suppliers of the items sold and extending credit to customers would be detrimental to business operations. RE: industries? Marvalyn Richards 9/25/2012 8:14:08 PM Furniture companies and large- appliance stores I believe normally offer trade credit. Supermarkets and gas stations do not offer credits to individuals, but some gas stations offer credit to compaines like UPS, Fed Ex, and The American Red Cross. RE: industries? Professor Thomas 9/26/2012 7:18:56 PM Great observation. I never thought about how gas companies offer credit to shipping companies. Does anyone have any thoughts on if this would be beneficial for a gas company, given the changes in oil/gas prices. Trade Credit Accounts Quintavious Mapp 9/22/2012 12:21:07 PM Payable Companies offer trade credit because some small companies don' t have a lot money to pay at once and the problem is that the buyer is not paying an immediate cash payment. RE: Trade Credit Marvalyn Richards Accounts Payable 9/26/2012 9:06:00 PM Yes, but I believe its more of a trust issue that a money issue. Companies will be quicker to offer established companies trade credit than a small struggling company. They do credit checks on these companies before offering them credit. They basically have no concern about anyone's financial situation, its just about them and their money. RE: Trade Credit - Edward Steward Accounts Payable 9/27/2012 7:40:43 AM Marvalyn, I was jut thinking the same thing. If your a small business just starting out, not to many companies will offer credit with no history. I think even if your credit is good they may not extend trade credit to your company, you just starting out and if you have never been in this type of business before who to say you'll make it. Trade Credit Amirah Howard 9/25/2012 9:48:07 AM Some companies may offer trade credit to companies so they may buy more and also build a business relationship with the company. May be they are buying for each other to build business. The problem can be the companies may not pays as agreed with the other company and if the business was to go under the other company would be looking at a lost. RE: Trade Credits Edward Steward Modified:9/25/2012 9:12 PM 9/25/2012 9:07:41 PM Trade credit simply means that a vendor extends you credit terms, giving you extra time to pay or giving a discount for early payment. Commercial transactions are different, most clients ask their suppliers to deliver services immediately and then to invoice them for the work, payable 30 days later (also known as offering net-30). In effect, clients ask their suppliers provide them with "trade credit" for 30 days. Although suppliers don't like offering trade credit, most have accepted it as an industry standard and have learned how to operate and live with it. In fact, some suppliers have even mastered how to offer trade credit and use it to better position their companies with leading clients. Large creditworthy customers, such as the government Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/25477 Problems: 1. You are unable or unwilling to pay them 2. You are reported to the credit companies 3. No one will extend you more credit 4. Credit terms require payment in less than 30 days 5. High interest rates if you are late