FEATURES
Model
IP 54 PROTECTION
AMI A 180
Declared
Housing protection IP54 real
IP42
IP 5.. Protected against dust:
Dust penetration is not totally excluded but the quantity of dust which can penetrate will not obstruct good functioning of material.
IP.. 4 Protected against water jet:
Water spraid on the cover from all directions must not cause harmful consequences.
IP 54 PROTECTION
Terminal board connection
Stator
Limit switch
230V power supply
PROTECTION COVER
The protection cover manufactured in this way and not fitted with gaskets presents a very low protection on all the reduction group.
ELECTRICAL LIMIT SWITCH
Electrical limit switch only in opening, IT WORKS ONLY IN MOTOR
PHASE, PROTECTION LEVEL IP20.
There is no indication regarding limit switch in the instruction manual: its use is not mentioned and neither its setting range
MANOEUVRE SCREW
The manoeuvre screw is made of normal steel and has been normally burnished as a proctective treatment.
This kind of treatment is to be used only for components which are in the internal part of products. Moreover such treatment is usefull only for storing phase before the assembling phase.
A functioning test has been carried ou on gate LP001 - leaf of 2 meters - weight of 360 kg.
Date of beginning: 23-09-04
Date of proof end: 25-10’04 after 26.510 cycles
The operator is not functioning because the front bracket get broken.
Not only the bracket get broken but also the complete reduction group. Replacement of all the operator is necessary.
Alternatively, we have to disassemble all the front part in order to replace the motor cover opening the operator???
FEATURES
Model
IP 54 PROTECTION
ATI A3/5000
Declared
Protection degree IP54 real
IP43
IP 5.. Protected against dust:
Dust penetration is not totally excluded but the quantity of dust which can penetrate will not obstruct good functioning of material.
IP.. 4
.
Protected against water jet:
Water spraid on the cover from all directions must not cause harmful consequences
IP 54 PROTECTION
MOTOR CABLE CONNECTION AND
RELATIVE TEARING RESISTANCE
Normative laws expressly request that “the devices must be fitted with cable fixing devices in order to enable that conductors are protected against traction and torsion force … …” . Above rules have not been followed in
ATI product. In this case, the cable has been put inside the fusion making some curves in order to obtain a certain resistance to traction. ABO
VE
PRODUCT IS NOT CONFORM TO THE RULES.
Moreover, motor cable connection is not mentioned in the CAME instruction manual; there is only a diagram for terminal board connection
Cable entrance cable exit
MOTION TRANSMISSION BETWEEN ROTOR
AND EPICYCLOID RIDUCTION
Motion transmission between rotor and epicycloid through gasket made of plastic and
NOT WITH THE PROPER
DIMENSIONS
ELECTRICAL LIMIT SWITCH
Electrical limit switch that operates, in 230V version, on MOTOR
PHASE, PROTECTION LEVEL IP 20.
CAME does not mention in any documentaion that actuators for
230V version are fitted with limit switch in opening.
Whereas it seems that in 24 V version the actuators are fitted with stop and slow-down limit switch in opening and only slow-down limit switch in closing ( we know it from the instruction but we have to investigate this matter)
MANOEUVRE SCREEW
The manoeuvre screw is made of normal steel and has been normally burnished as a proctective treatment.
This kind of treatment is to be used only for components which are in the internal part of products. Moreover such treatment is usefull only for storing phase before the assembling phase.
Functioning test has been carried out on LP011 gate, 4-meter leaf,
weight: 250 kg.
Date of beginning: 1st test on 17-12’04
End of test
22-12-’04 after 2.217 cycles after GASKET
BREAKING
We have purchased the spare parts and resume the test on internal gate LP002 with 2,5-meter leaf and weight kg. 210 ( NB. We did not use the external gate because it was in use for other UT test)
Date of beginning 2nd test on 04-03’05
End of test 07-03-’05 after 1.350 cycles after GASKET
BREAKING
NB. The proof will be repeated in April with ATI A3000 actuator in order to check if the GASKET BREAKING is due to a production defect
Mode
FEATURES
Housing protection
IP 54 PROTECTION
FAST 7001
Declared
IP54
Real
IP33
Terminal board connection
Inside part of reductor
MOTOR CABLE CONNECTION AND
RELATIVE TEARING RESISTANCE
Normative laws expressly request that “the devices must be fitted with cable fixing devices in order to enable that conductors are protected against traction and torsion force … …”
Above rules have not been followed with FAST product; a rubber membrane is used and it does hold the cable
We have carried out a functioning test on LP001 gate with 2-meter leaf and weight 360 kg.
Date of beginning 16-09-03
Date end of test 16-12’03 after 61.000 cycles
The tow pin got broken
FEATURES
Model
BXA - BXB
Declared Real
Housing protection IP54 IP43
Coupling of the two covers does not assure any air or water seal; moreover control board is not protected
Model
FEATURES
BXA kg. 400
Decl.
real
Falcon 5
BXB kg. 800**
Decl.
Real Decl.
Real.
Falcon 8
Decl.
Real.
Housing protection
Frequence
IP54
30%
IP43
10%
IP44
30%
IP44
30%
IP54
30%
IP43
10%
IP44
** BXB model is declared to be for residential use with 600-kg leaf
HOW COULD IT BE POSSIBLE WITH A FREQUENCE OF 10% ??
40%
IP44
40%
FUNCTIONING PROOF IN CONTINUOUS DUTY
POWER SUPPLY 230V -- AMBIENT TEMPERATURE +25 ° C
BXA KG. 400
3’ 50”
Falcon 5 kg. 500
10’ 30”
BXB KG. 800
5’ 17”
Falcon 8 kg. 800
Oltre 22’
Limit switch not protected
Stator not protected
Painting has not been done
Beginning of corrosion during proof IP44
24 hours of normal rain
Beginning of corrosion after proof IP44
Control board with few functions, the only two important features are the pilot lamp and the electric lock
IT DOES NOT HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL FUNCTION
IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY INPUTS FOR PHOTOCELLS IN OPENING
AND CLOSING
IT DOES NOT CONTROL THE SEPARATED THRUST BETWEEN
THE TWO MOTORS
IT DOES NOT HAVE THE FUNCTION “SEPARATED WORK TIME
BETWEEN THE TWO MOTORS”
IT DOES NOT MANAGE DECELERATION
IT DOES NOT HAVE THE PARTIAL OPENING
IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY INPUTS FOR ENCODER
IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY INPUTS FOR LIMIT SWITCH
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO CONTROL INVERSION STROKE AND
OVER PUSHING STROKE WITH THE ELECTRIC LOCK
ONLY ONE COMMON FOR SEVERAL CABLES IN INPUT
MAXIMUM MOTORS LOAD: 320W
TRANSFORMER MUST BE PURCHASED SEPARETELY
IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY INPUT FOR
PHOTOCELLS IN OPENING AND CLOSING
It has only one input for the photocells; it works only with the following logic: reopening during closing phase of leaves without any other logics available.
Otherwise photocells must be connected to stop input: in this case, it stops the leaves motion.
IT DOES NOT MANAGE THE SEPARATE
THRUST BETWEEN THE TWO MOTORS
It is not possibile to set the separated thrust in presence of two motors
There are only 4 levels of force setting: to be made moving the faston on the transformer
IT DOES NOT HAVE SEPARATE WORK TIME
BETWEEN THE TWO MOTORS
It is not possible to set separate work time on the two leaves
IT DOES NOT MANAGE
DECELARATION
It is not fitted for decelaration in opening and closing
ONLY ONE COMMON FOR SEVERAL INPUTS
The connection of two motors and flashing lamp must used the same “W”
All the accessories must be connected to a sole input “2”
This control board can be compared to Brain 574 model and surely not to Brain 592 model
Series of separated inputs such as “opening push button”, “closing push button”, “partial opening push button” and input 2-7 for transmitters for automatic logics management.
It is possibile to have safeties both in opening contact
C-1 and in closing contact 2-CX (in this case 2 logics can be selected through dip-switch 8 “Re-closing during opening and Partial stop”).
Separate input of Stop 1-2
Output for electric lock
Compared to Brain 574
IT DOES NOT MANAGE SEPARATE THRUST BETWEEN THE TWO
MOTORS
IT DOES NOT HAVE WORK TIME SEPARATED BETWEEN THE
TWO MOTORS
IT DOES NOT MANAGE THE DECELERATION
SETTING LEAF DELAY IN PARTIAL OPENING PARZIALE CON UN
SOLO TRIMMER TR2M
ONE SOLE COMMON FOR SEVERAL CABLES IN INPUT
MAX MOTORS LOAD 600W
TRANSFORMER MUST ALWAYS BE PURCHASED SEPARATELY
Further details if compared with Brain 592
IT DOES NOT HAVE INPUTS FOR ENCODER
IT DOES NOT HAVE INPUTS FOR LIMIT SWITCH
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO MANAGE INVERSION STROKE
This control board can be compared to
Brain 592 model
ZM2 control board is almost identical to
ZA3 model, in addition :
Separate inputs for the limit switch
ON-OFF function of autotest on the safeties; to use this function, photcells must be connected through a certain diagram
Addition of a dip-swith with two inputs in order to increase some functions such as partial opening and pedestrian opening
Compared to Brain 592
IT DOES NOT MANAGE THE SEPARATE THRUST
BETWEEN THE TWO MOTORS
IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SEPARATE WORK TIME
BETWEEN THE TWO MOTORS
IT DOES NOT MANAGE THE DECELERATION
SETTING OF LEAF DELAY AND PARTIAL OPENING
WITH ONLY ONE TRIMMER TR2M
ONE SOLE COMMON FOR SEVERAL CABLES IN
INPUTS
MAX. MOTORS LOAD 600W
TRANSFORMER MUST ALWAYS BE PURCHASED
SEPARATELY
IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY INPUTS FOR ENCODER
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO CONTROL THE INVERSION
STROKE
A grid has been put for air circulation but it can not guarantee the IP 54 protection
The two covers are closed with only two screws on the hole
No gasket along the edges
H2O
Quality of the container is quite low and its IP42 protection degree, against a IP54 declared degree, causes functioning problems for the control boards
The closing with only two thread screws in the bottom part: it is not enough to guarantee the tightness.
Morevorer, it is hard to garantee a IP54 degree, protection against water jet from all directions, putting a grid on the container for air ventilation.
Besides, there are no gaskets.
IP 54
Protection against dust:
Dust Penetration is not totally excluded but the quantity of dust which can penetrate will not obstruct good functioning of material.
Protection against water jet:
Water spraid on the cover from all directions must not cause harmful consequences
Model
FEATURES
Protection degree
Decl.
Real
IP43 IP42
A 4- mm piece can be easily fit inside the casing
The first value, which refers to solid pieces, states level 4 “Protected against solid pieces larger than 1 mm thin tools,thin threads”; as shown in the pictures the chink is larger than 1 mm being around
4mm: therefore real level should be 2 instead of 4. Besides the chink causes the water penetration; therefore the second value “Protection from liquids” should be also at level 2
MANOEUVRE SCREW IN NORMAL STEEL
The manoeuvre screw is made of normal steel and the protection is guaranted with only grease with which it is lubricated initially (we remind you that the manoeuvre screws used by Genius (for external use) are only made of
STAINLESS STEEL)
PLUTO
WINGO
MOBY
THE EXCLUSIVE Nice RELEASE EASY
TO OPEN
The exlcusive Nice release is surely easy to use but unfortunately it must always stay up. But it is not good for water tightness. In order to assure water tightness, release must be closed at each movement.
Position that release should have when it is open
PLUTO
M
O
B
Y
WINGO
LIFE PROOF ON PLUTO PL 4005
Functioning test carried out on LP011 gate with 2,50 m-leaf and weight 200 kg
Date of beginning 15-09-03
Date of end proof 05-12’03 after 54.800 cycles after breaking of lead bracket
Functioning test carried out on gate LP011 leaf 2,50 m weight
200 kg
Date beginning 04-02’04
Date end of proof 09-06’04 cycles 45.000, operator still functioning
We note an increase of noise and increase of slack in the lead nut: this model is the most performing among the three models
Functioning test carried out on gate LP011 leaf 2,50 m weight
200 kg
Date of beginning 05-12’03
Date of end proof 02-02’04 after 26.425 cycles after breaking of lead bracket
The carter is closed with only two rear screws. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE to guarantee tightness
The closing screws of the two aluminium covers do not have the right dimension; infact, the two covers can moove causing the wear of the gasket
Functioning test carried out on gate LP001 leaf of 2 mt weight
160 kg
Date of beginning 17-12’03
Date of end 07-01’04 after 11.343 cycles for breaking of aluminium COVER
Model
FEATURES
Protection degree
Frequence of use
ROBO 1010 real
IP43
30%
Falcon 5 real
IP44
30%
Falcon 8 real
IP44
40%
FUNCTIONING PROOF IN CONTINUOUS DUTY
POWER SUPPLY 230V -- AMBIENT TEMPERATURE +25 ° C
Falcon 5 kg. 500
10’ 30”
RO1010
15’ 30” Falcon 8 kg. 800
Oltre 22’
Position of capacitor
Protection of stator
FURTHER QUALITIES ABOUT NICE
Position of capacitor
Protection of stator
Limit switch
FURTHER QUALITIES ABOUT NICE
Board cover
Gear motor fixing with only two screws
Max. load accessories 200 mA - Genius 500 mA
IT CAN NOT MANAGE ENCODER
Pedestrian opening/partial opening on with additional board PIÙ
One input for photocells/safety edge in opening
(Genius: separated inputs for photocells in opening, closing and edge)
Photocell in closing: optional only with board PIÙ
Only one common with difficulties to connect several accessories (Genius: several inputs for each common)
FAILSAFE optional, managed with board PIÙ
The PRINCE 24 PLUS connected to electronic board KS2 24V enable to obtain a antiintrusion alarm system ABIS (patented): this system detects each attempt of opening the gate with force from ill-intentioned people. The board detects the attempts of forced opening of the gate and it operates automatically the motors in closing in order to resist to movement. Simultaneously it puts into action an alarm siren (optional) in order to signal the intrusion attempt
RIB presents this solution like a EXTRA feature but it is the only solution since the
PRINCE operator
IS NOT IRREVERSIBLE as it is stated in the price list, but it is REVERSIBLE .
In fact, it is a epicycloid reduction with direct drive, in which the shutdown is obtained through the board making a bu-pass on the motor; this solution does not assure the stop and it compells the reduction gears to support all the thrust load causing big problems of functioning
RIB was obliged to use with this operator a control board which enables leaf block: and then the idea of alarm anti-intrusion ABIS system came out.
THIS SYSTEM DOES NOT FOLLOW THE SAFETY STANDARDS
Safety standards state that the maximum thrust, under 500 mm of space, must be 400N for 0,75 sec and then going down to ZERO within 5 seconds.
LET’S IMAGINE THAT A CHILDREN, WHILE
PLAYING, PUSHES THE CLOSEN LEAF. THE
LEAF GET OPENED OF FEW CENTIMETERS, HIS
FINGERS STAY BETWEEN THE TWO LEAVES
AND THE ACTUATOR STARTS PUSHING WITH
ALL THRUST. THE TRAPPED CHILDREN CAN
NOT TAKE OFF THE FINGERS BECAUSE WHEN
HE TRIES TO OPEN THE LEAF, THE ACTUATOR
MAKE RESISTANCE WITH MAXIMUM THRUST.
SIMPLIFIED INSTALLATION, NO NEED TO SET …. THE
LIMIT SWITCH POSITION
•
•
IT DOES NOT REPEAT THE
POSITIONING ON THE STROKE
FIXED ADJUSTMENT OF THE
STANDSTILLS
REPEATIBILITY
BECAUSE THE
SYSTEM DOES NOT ENABLE THE
ONLY ONE VERSION: NO RIGHT AND
LEFT MODELS
Positioning of two opposite beams
Positioning of two opposite beams
Internal release and external release
In the normal functioning, all the problems of oxidation have to be considered:
torque spring: it is not protected and it is made of steel
output shaft: it does not have any O rings and the water can enter the kinematic motion
NB. The product functioned for two months only in
Laboratory without being esponed outside, as it should be for its normal use
SENSIBILITY OF POWER SENSOR
The sensibility of the power sensor which is indicated for all the operators without encoder , appears to be not very functional with problems of calibration since it is not an ajustable value.
In fact, the adjustment, which has to be made in programming phase, settles (through a Trimmer) the sensor at the minimum DL3 switch off, when the operator arrives to the end of its stroke, you have to rotate the trimmer in counterclock wise until the DL3 led switches on.
.
From the proofs we have carried out, it comes out the the sensibility is two high: a light movement or oscillation is considered like an obstacle; it is NOT possible to adjust the value rotating the trimmer because in this case when the operator arrives at the end of its stroke,
DL3 led does not switch on and then nothing is functioning any more.
Nb. We remind you that the Genius/FAAC board has 4 degrees of sensibility
The encoder sensibility in the obstacle detection does not have any levels/threshold, but it learns from the default value and IT IS NOT POSSIBLE to modify the value.
It can not manage the limit switches
Pedestrian is optional using Expander board
No separate inputs for safety in opening and closing, Optional with Expander board
Circuit for battery charge not integrated in the board but supplied separately
When only one leaf is used, you have to cut a jumper; then, in order to come back to the use of two leaves, you have to weld the jumper or to change the board ( Genius manages without any problems the use from single leaf to double leaf )