Engineering 10
Engineering Students
Next Steps
Bruce Mayer, PE
Licensed Electrical & Mechanical Engineer
BMayer@ChabotCollege.edu
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Associate in Science Degree
Degree-Requirements and Suggested Course Sequence
FRESHMAN YEAR
FALL
SPRING
Engineering 25 (Computational Methods
for Engineers and Scientists) ................................................... ........................ 3
Chemistry 1A (General College Chemistry).................................5
Mathematics 1 (Calculus I) ...........................................................5
Mathematics 2 (Calculus II).................................................................................... 5
Physics 4A (General Physics I)............................................................................... 5
SOPHOMORE
FALL
SPRING
Engineering 36 (Engineering Mechanics - Statics).......................3
Engineering 43 (Engineering Circuit Analysis) ................................. ........................ 4
Engineering 45 (Materials of Engineering) .............................................................. 3
Physics 4B (General Physics II)....................................................5
Plus One (1) Course from the following:
Biology 2A1 (Principles of Biology) ............................................5
Chemistry 1B2 (General College Chemistry ........................................................... 5
Engineering 10 (Introduction to Engineering) ..............................2
Engineering 223 (Engineering Design Graphics) ..........................3 ......................(3)
Mathematics 44 (Elementary Differential Equations) ...................3
Mathematics 6§ (Elementary Linear Algebra) ........................................................ 3
Physics 4C (General Physics III) ............................................................................ 5
Total ................................................................................................................................40-43
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New as of 27Oct08
ENGINEERING
Associate in Science Degree
Degree-Requirements and Suggested Course Sequence
New as of 27Oct08
ENGINEERING
General Education Units for A.S. Degree ....................................................................19
For specific A.S. General Education courses refer to catalog section on A.S. Graduation Requirements
General Education Courses (Areas A-E)......................................................... 16
Engineering GE Requirement: ......................................................................... 3
Complete a minimum of 3 units from:
Business 40 (International Business)
Computer Science 14 (Intro to Structured Programming in C++)
Economics 1 (Principles of Microeconomics)
Speech 1 (Fundamentals of Speech Communications)
Total minimum units required......................................................................................60
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Bio Engineering, Biomedical Engineering, and Biomechanical Engineering majors should take Biology 2A.
Chemical Engineering and Materials Engineering majors should take Chemistry 1B.
3
Civil, Industrial, and Mechanical Engineering majors should take Engineering 22.
4
Engineering Science majors, and students interested in applied-mathematics, should take Mathematics 4 and 6.
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ASEngineering – Degree Plan
Fall: Course Title
Course No.
Units Spring: Course Title
Course No.
 Plan for CE, ChemE, IE, ME, others
Year 1
Calculus-I
Reading & Composition1
General Chemistry
Fall: Course
TitleDesign Graphics
Engineering
Weight Training3
Calculus-I
MTH 1
5
Calculus-II
ENGL 1A
3
General Physics I
CHEM 1A
5
Structured Programming in C++2
Course
No.22 Units3 Spring:
Course Methods
Title
ENGR
Computational
PHED2WT
MTH
1
5 1 Calculus-II
1
Year 1
Reading & Composition
ENGL 1A
Total UnitsCHEM 1A
General Chemistry
Engineering Design Graphics
ENGR 22
3 Title
Fall:
Course
Course No.
Weight Training
PHED2WT
MTH 2
PHYS 4A
CSCI 14
Course
ENGRNo.
25
MTH 2
PHYS 4A
CSCI 14
ENGR 25
3
General Physics I
2
Units
5 17 Structured ProgrammingTotal
in C++
3
Computational Methods
Units
Spring: Course Title
Course No.
1
Year 2
MultiVariable Calculus
MTH 3
5
Elementary Differential Equations
MATH 4
4
General Physics IITotal Units
PHYS 4B 17 5
Architectural Drafting Total
Principles
ARCH 4A
Units
5
Engineering Mechanics - Statics
ENGR 36
3
General Physics III
PHYS 4C
American History6
HIST 7
3
Engineering Materials
ENGR 45
Fall: Course Title
Course No. Units Spring: Course Title
Course No.
7
Critical Think/Write
ENGL 7
3
Engineering Circuit Analysis
ENGR 43
Year 2
MultiVariable Calculus
MTH 3
General Physics II
PHYS 4B
Total Units
Engineering Mechanics - Statics
ENGR 36
6
American History
HIST 7
7
Critical Think/Write
ENGL 7
Total Units
5
Elementary Differential Equations
5
Architectural Drafting Principles4
19
Total Units
3
General Physics III5
3
Engineering Materials
3
Engineering Circuit Analysis
19
Total Units
MATH 4
ARCH 4A
PHYS 4C
ENGR 45
ENGR 43
Units
5
5
4
Units
3
5
5
17
4
3
Units
3
3
17
5
3
Units
4
3
3
18
5
3
4
18
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Chabot GE Requirement A.1 for English Composition (A.2 for Communication and Analytical-Thinking Satisfied by MTH 1; B for Natural Sciences Satisfied by
PHYS 4A)
2
Satisfies the Program-based General Education Requirement
3
Chabot GE Requirement E.2 for Wellness
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Chabot GE Requirement C for the Humanities
5
Satisfies A.S. Degree Elective Requirement
6
Chabot GE Requirement D for Social and Behavioral Sciences
7
A second English Composition course is required by almost all California University Colleges/Schools of Engineering
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Mayer,
PE Satisfied by
Chabot
GE Requirement
A.1 for
English Composition (A.2 for Communication and Analytical-Thinking Satisfied by MTH 1; B Bruce
for Natural
Sciences
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PHYS 4A)
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Satisfies the Program-based General Education Requirement
3
Chabot GE Requirement E.2 for Wellness
Calculus, Calculus, Calculus
 MTH1 (Calculus) is a
Prerequisite to TWELVE (12)
other Science & Engineering
Courses in the Engineering
TRANSFER-PATH
 Engineering Students Should Get
to MTH1 Absolutely as SOON as
Possible
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ENGR 10 Global Wrap Up
 Hopefully by Now Everyone in the Class
Has a Good Idea About
• What Engineers Do In Practice
• The Skills, Techniques, and Motivation
Needed to Successfully Complete The
Engineering Academic Preparation
– i.e., To Receive the Baccalaureate Degree
 Also Hopefully Many In the Class have
Chosen Engineering as a CAREER
• It’s NOT a Job, it’s a Professional Career
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The Instructor’s Best Advice
 For Everyone Who Has Decided on
Engineering as:
• A Course of College/University Study
• A Working LifeTime Career...
Take AS MANY COURSES
AS POSSIBLE at the
COMMUNITY COLLEGE
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Why Community College?
 1 Big Reason; Several Smaller ones
 Biggest Reason → As GOOD, or
Even BETTER, Instruction For Lower
Division CourseWork (1st Two
College Years)
• Applies to ALL Academic Disciplines
– e.g., Math, Science, English, History, etc.
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Recall Visit by UCBerkeley Dean
 Fa08 Guest Speaker R. Giomi of UCB’s
College of Engineering noted
 81% of Freshmen graduate from the
UCB CoE
 91% of Freshmen graduate from UCB
 93% of TRANSFERS graduate from the
CoE
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ClassRoom Performance  GPA
CC Transfers
2.97
UCB Natives
Student Track
UC Berkeley College of Engineering 3rd Year GPA • 03-04
3.12
0.0
0.5
Salary-Survey-2009_0907.xls
1.0
1.5
2.0
2.5
3.0
3rd Year GPA ar UCB CoE
3.5
src = R.Giomi of UCB
• Per R. Giomi, Asst. Dean At the
UCBerkeley College of Engineering
– Grades Earned for 3rd & 4th Year Students are
Statistically INDISTINGUISHABLE Between
Native & Transfer Students
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Why Community College? Cont.
 Other Reasons
• Reduced Cost (see next Slide)
• Smaller Class Sizes
• More Personal Atmosphere
• Enhanced Support Services
• Generally More Convenient
• Much Greater Flexibility
– UC’s Often have “progress” Requirements
 To Take Fewer Than 12 Units May Require
a Special Waiver
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College/University Costs • 2008-2009
Chabot
College
$626
College or University
CC Average
NationWide
 Chabot is about the
BEST Educational
Value on the Planet
$2,761
CalState
East Bay
$3,810
San Jose
State Univ.
$3,992
CalPoly
SLO
$5,043
UC
Berkeley
$8,932
UC
Davis
$9,484
$0
$1,000
$2,000
file = Salary-Survey-2001_0307.xls
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$3,000
$4,000
$5,000
$6,000
$7,000
$8,000
Annual Tuition and/or Fees
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$9,000
$10,000
Transfer Prep – NEED to Have
 Take ALL ADVANCED MATH Courses
• Math: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6
 Take ALL Sci/Engr PHYSICS Courses
• Physics: 4A, 4B, 4C (and Possibly 5)




Chemistry: 1A (and Possibly 1B)
Computer Sci: 14 (and Possibly 15)
English: 1A & 4/7
SPEECH: 1 (Required by CSU)
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Transfer Prep – NEED to Have
 Engineering
• All Disciplines: 10, 11, 22, 25, 36, 43, 45
• ENGR22 May Be Omitted
in Certain Cases for
These Disciplines
(chk w/ Xfer Univ)
– EE
– MSE
 American Cultures
• e.g; HIST7 or HIST8
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Transfer Prep – GOOD to Have
 Organic Chemistry
• Chem: 8 or 12A
 More WRITING; e.g., ENGL 4, 7, 11
• Almost Every Engineer Can CALCULATE
and DESIGN
• Good Writing Skills will DISTINGUISH you
From your Less Capable Colleagues
 Public Speaking; e.g., SPCH 3
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Transfer Prep – GOOD to Have
 Manufacturing Processes: one of
• MTT 70 – Intro to Machine Shop
• MTT 60A – Machine Tool Tech-I
• WELD 70 – Intro to Welding
• ESYS 52 – Electronic Systems Fabrication
Techniques
• ESYS 53 – E-Systems Measurements
 The Above are Usually Not Transferable
to UC
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Chabot ENGR Class Prep
 ALL ENGR Classes
• Strong Interest in the Field Because it is
WAY-COOL
• Willingness To THINK and STUDY like an
ENGINEER
– Recall Lecture on Study Skills
– Also in Labs, Use All the Equipment, Be the
First to Volunteer
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Chabot ENGR Class Prep cont
 ENGR22 – Engineering Design
Graphics (AutoCAD Software)
• Nice to Have
– MATH 36 or 37
– ENGL 1A or 52A
 ENGR25 – Computational Methods
(MATLAB Software)
Qo (slpm-TEOS/Slpm-N2)
Vapor Output From TEOS Bubbler
• PreReq = MATH 1
• Nice to Have = CAS8 or CSCI8
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Qmin = 0.0186
Qmax = 0.2132
0.2
0.15
0.1
0.05
0
85
80
750
75
650
550
70
450
65
T (°C)
60
350
250
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Phs (Torr)
Chabot ENGR Class Prep cont
 ENGR11 – Design and Analysis
• Nice to Have
– MATH 36 or 37
– ENGR 22 (REALLY Nice to Have)
 ENGR36 – Engineering Mechanics →
Static Structures
• PreReqs
– ENGR 25
– Physics 4A
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Chabot ENGR Class Prep cont
 ENGR43 – Electrical Circuit Analysis
• PreReqs
– ENGR 25
– PHYS 4A
1:3
1

j2
+
j1
Vs
• Good to HAVE
(may be Concurrent)
1

-
Ideal
Figure P8.59
– MATH 4
– MATH 6
– PHYS 4B
 Particularly Helpful
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Chabot ENGR Class Prep cont
 ENGR45 – Materials of Engineering
• PreReqs
– CHEM 1A
– PHYS 4A
– ENGR25
• Good to HAVE
100%
(may be Concurrent)
– CHEM 1B
– MATH 2
– PHYS 4B
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Concentration Profiles
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Year 1
Transfer-ONLY Education Plan
Fall: Course Title
Course No.
Calculus-I
Reading & Composition1
General Chemistry
Engineering Design Graphics
Introduction to Engineering
Weight Training3
MTH 1
ENGL 1A
CHEM 1A
ENGR 22
ENGR 10
PHED2WT
Total Units
Year 2
Fall: Course Title
Total Units
5
3
5
3
2
1
MTH 3
PHYS 4B
ENGR 36
HIST 7
ENGL 7
Course No.
Calculus-II
General Physics I
Structured Programming in C++2
Computational Methods
Engineering Design & Analysis
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Course No.
MultiVariable Calculus
General Physics II
Engineering Mechanics - Statics
American History5
Critical Think/Write6
Units Spring: Course Title
MTH 2
PHYS 4A
CSCI 14
ENGR 25
ENGR 11
Total Units
Units Spring: Course Title
Elementary Differential Equations
Elementary Linear Algebra
General Physics III4
Engineering Materials
Engineering Circuit Analysis
19
Total Units
5
5
4
3
2
19
Course No.
5
5
3
3
3
Units
MTH 4
MTH 6
PHYS 4C
ENGR 45
ENGR 43
Units
3
3
5
3
4
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 SUMMER Term Possibilities
• ENGL 1A & 7, MTH1, HIST7
Mayer,Sciences
PE
Intro
Engineering
ChabotEngineering-10:
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for to
English
Composition (A.2 for Communication and Analytical-Thinking Satisfied by MTH 1;Bruce
B for Natural
Satisfied by
PHYS 4A)
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Satisfies the Program-based General Education Requirement
1
3
Xfer Planning  ASSIST.ORG
• UCDavis Mechanical Engineering
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Calculus, Calculus, Calculus
 MTH1 (Calculus) is a
Prerequisite for TWELVE (12)
other Science & Engineering
Courses in the Engineering
TRANSFER-PATH
 Engineering Students Should Get
to MTH1 Absolutely as SOON as
Possible
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Bachelors Degree Field
Fitness/Recreation
Psychology
Communications
Hospitality Services
Teacher, 9-12
Foreign Language
Political Sci
Agricultural Mgmnt
Criminal Justice
Marketing
Business Admin
Nursing
Accounting
Human Resources
Logistics/Matl-Mgmnt
Finance
MIS/DP
Civil Engineering
Construction Mgmnt
Aero Engineering
Electrical Engineering
Computer Science
Mechanical Engineering
Computer Engineering
Chemical Engineering
34.2
NACE
34.9
Bachelor's Degree
35.0
New-Grad Salaries
35.4
Jul2009
35.9
36.5
Engineering
38.8
40.7
is THE BEST
43.2
Compensated
43.6
of the Major
45.8
Bachelor’s
46.7
48.3 Degrees
49.2
49.3
49.8
51.0
Engineering
51.8
Noted in
53.6
56.3 GREEN
57.6
Color
57.7
58.7
61.0
65.4
0
5
10
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15
20
25
30
35
40
45
50
55
Average Starting Salary ($k/yr)
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60
65
70
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Sp10: “HeadsUp” to ENGR11 Students
 The REALLY GOOD TextBook Went out
of Print UnExpectedly in Fall 2009
• The BookStore Will NOT Carry it
• BUT the SP10 Edition of ENGR11 WILL
STILL USE it
 Please buy OnLine Used Copies
 Rudolph J. Eggert, “Engineering
Design”, Prentice Hall, 2004,
ISBN13: 9780131433588,
ISBN10: 0-13-143358-X
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Final Exam Notifications
 122 Questions &
Problems Total
 Exam: Tue/15Dec,
10am-11:50pm
 Questions: Quantity
and Form
 Please for the Exam
• 12 True/False
• 68 Multiple Choice
• 32 Short Answer
• 10 UNIT
CONVERSION
Problems
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• Be ON TIME
• Bring a
CALCULATOR for
Unit-Conversion
Problems
• Send me an eMAIL if
you want to know
your Exam & Course
Score/Grade
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Final Exam Content
 The Final Exam is
SEMIcomprehensive
• 90+% of content is
taken from Material
Covered AFTER the
MidTerm Exam
 Define “Engineering”
 What is the main
difference between
SCIENCE and
ENGINEERING?
• The Remaining
portion will cover
BROAD themes
developed Over the
entire term
 List two projects that
an INDUSTRIAL
Engineer might work
on.
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– Some Examples of
these “Broad-Based”
Questions might be
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Suggested Study Strategy
 CAREFULLY Review all PostMidTerm
Class (BMayer) Lecture Presentations
• On ENGR10 WebPage
 CAREFULLY Review all PostMidTerm
Guest Lecture Material
• Presentations
• BioGraphies and/or Resumes
 Review TextBook Material that is
directly Related to the HW assignments
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Final Note
 My Personal Thanks to Everyone in
ENGR 10 for His/Her:
• Time
• Attention
• Effort
• And, Most Significantly:
– The Courtesy Afforded ALL of the GUEST
SPEAKERS who VOLUNTEERED Their Time
to Educate Us About An Aspect of Engineering
Practice or Education
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All Done for the COURSE
See You
in
ENGR11
 The ENGINEERING
DESIGN Pyramid
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