AA-T/AS-T - Cabrillo College

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The AA-T Train
Time to get students on
board!
Information for instructors, counselors &
other transfer personnel
 AKA: “STAR Act”: Student Transfer
Achievement Reform
 CEC §66745-49 (“Ed Code”)
 Goals:
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Increase CCC transfers with associate degrees
Increase number of associate degrees awarded
Reduce units/cost before & after transfer
Smoother path to transfer to a CSU
Guaranteed Admission to the CSU System
Guarantee of just 60 units to complete a Bachelor’s
Degree
Ed code §66745-49
updated to state:
 All CCCs must offer associate degrees for transfer (to
CSU)
 Degrees include
o 60 semester CSU-transferable
o Completion of IGETC or CSU GE-Breadth
o Minimum 18 semester units in major
o No additional local requirements allowed – for Cabrillo, No
Multicultural course requirement
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Academic Senates (CCC and CSU)
CSU and CCC Chancellor’s Offices
C-ID
Curriculum chairs
Articulation officers
Transfer Center Directors
Discipline faculty
Counselors
Administrators
112 colleges develop
unique degrees in
each major. . .
OR
A concerted,
statewide,
intersegmental
Transfer Model
Curriculum (TMC)
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1. Faculty discipline groups:
• identify common lower division major preparation (TMC)
• define content for courses (C-ID course descriptors)
2. Discipline groups are intersegmental (CSU and CCC)
• some UC involvement, too
3. Draft TMCs are vetted statewide (www.c-id.net) & faculty determined.
4. Drafts of Course descriptors (C-ID) vetted statewide
5. CCCs develop TMC- aligned degrees (AA-T/AS-T) and submit them
to the CCCCO for approval.
 Each CSU determines if the TMC is similar
 “Similar” means- if a transfer student arrives with the
AA-T/AS-T degree:
 Includes the TMC coursework (major)
 All lower-division GE
THEN the CSU campus can deliver the baccalaureate degree in
60 units. (60 + 60)
 Some options/concentrations within majors may not be considered
similar.
 Upper-division GE must be part of the CSU 60 units. Any missing lowerdivision major preparation or American Institutions requirements may be
included in the CSU 60 units
AA-T/AS-T
Major
Preparation
CSUGE or
IGETC
Electives,
AI
60 units
CSU Major
coursework
60 units
= BACHELOR’S DEGREE
CSU
General
Education
(upper
division)
The “Similar Degree
Determination Process
 CCC campuses build/modify a proposed degree which
fits within the TMC template = AA-T/AS-T
 CSU campuses review the TMC templates to determine
whether the undergraduate preparation would allow a
student to successfully complete the bachelor's degree
within 60 additional units.
 Campuses have been given strategies to get more
majors and options into the “similar” category
 Departments at each CSU determine
“similarity” of each TMC to degree options
 Some “similar” majors are limited to specific
major concentrations or options.
 Official repository for “similar” majors:
www.sb1440.org
 Streamline student transition from CCC to CSU
 Earn AA-T or AS-T for completion of CSU GE-Breadth or IGETC and 18 units in
major in the TMC-aligned degree
 No other local CCC graduation requirements.
 Enhanced CSU admission opportunities
 Guaranteed priority admission with junior status to a CSU campus with
“similar” major
 After transfer to CSU, guaranteed degree completion within 60 semester units at
the CSU
 Lower cost to students and taxpayers
 Access to out of area CSUs
 GPA bump for impacted majors and/or campuses (Note: student may need to be
more competitive)
 New degrees are called Associate in Arts or Science in <major> for
Transfer: AA-T or AS-T  Degrees include
o 60 semester CSU-transferable units
o Completion of IGETC or CSU GE-Breadth
o Minimum 18 semester units in major
o No additional local requirements allowed
 Chancellor’s Office says that based on curriculum offered at your
college in alignment with the TMC, CCCs will need to offer many
more degrees
A “Degree with a Guarantee” …
What’s the Guarantee?
(the fine print)
1. A student who completes an Associate’s Degree for Transfer at a California
Community College is guaranteed admission to the California State
University
No guarantee to any particular campus or program.
2. The student is required to complete only 60 units at the university
to achieve their Bachelor’s Degree
As long as they do not change their major or concentration or
veer from the “roadmap”.
What’s the Guarantee?
2. AA-T/AS-T graduates who are admitted to a CSU program that has been
deemed similar to the Associate’s Degree for Transfer will be able to
complete the Baccalaureate Degree in the similar option in the discipline
within 60 semester or 90 quarter units
 As long as the student successfully completes each required course without
repeating them.
 Or supplementing instruction with additional courses for minors or areas of
emphasis.
 Continuous enrollment in the same academic major is required unless the student
is on an approved leave of absence.
 To maintain the guarantee, continuous enrollment in the same academic major is
required unless the student is on an approved leave of absence.
 After enrollment at a CSU campus begins, the guarantee is not transferable to
another CSU campus.
 C-ID = Course Identification Numbering System
 Administered by the Academic Senate for CCC
 Facilitates the identification of comparable courses (“common course
numbering”) & increases articulation across all systems of higher
education
 Provides the infrastructure for TMCs & course substitution.
 Replaces the old “CAN” system.
 We articulate to course descriptors, not course to course ( a different way
to articulate). AOs send all your courses in new degrees to C-ID.org
 When a college has a C-ID approved course, then they have agreed to
accept all others with the same C-ID number.
www.c-id.net
 We cannot submit for an AA-T/AS-T unless we have at least submitted for
C-ID numbers for all CORE and LIST A courses on our proposed degree
 C-ID approval usually requires changes to our Course Outlines of record.
 If only a text book update is required, we can work outside the regular
curriculum deadlines and calendar
 Other significant changes must happen within the regular curriculum deadlines
and calendar
 THUS, it can take a between 6 months and 1 year to have a course ready to
submit or re-submit for a C-ID number.
 The approval time for the C-ID number once submitted can take up to 2 years!
(we have History courses submitted for review in Fall of 2011 that have yet to
be approved …
www.c-id.net
 C-ID facilitates the identification of comparable courses (“common course
numbering”) & increases articulation across all systems of higher
education
 For example: Students can take a C-ID identified course at another community
college and use it toward our degree.
 Students can take one of our C-ID courses and use that course toward a
degree at another community college
www.c-id.net
 Criminal Justice
(Administration of Justice)
 Art History
 Business Administration
 Communication Studies
 Early Childhood Education
 English
 Geography - submitted
 History
 Kinesiology
 Mathematics
 Music
 Psychology
 Philosophy - submitted
 Physics
 Political Science
 Sociology
 Spanish
 Theater
 As of January, 2014
 Anthropology
 Elementary
Education
 Studio Art
 Journalism?
College considering
 New ASCCC statement on Reciprocity,
Course Substitution and Credit by Exam—
in light of AA-T and AS-T degrees
 Counselors and evaluators can use C-ID for
comparability.
 External Sources of Credit (AP, CLEP, IB)
 Credit by Exam
 Guaranteed admission to CSU system as a junior
 “The California State University shall grant a student priority
admission to his or her local California State University
campus and to a program or major that is similar to his or her
community college major or area of emphasis“
o “similar” major determined by CSU facultywww.sb1440.org
o CSU cannot require students to repeat courses similar to
those completed at CCC
 AA-T and AS-T students admitted to CSU in a “similar” 120-unit
BA/BS program are guaranteed to complete BA/BS in 60
semester units
The new 2013 law (SB 440)
says. . .
• If a CCC has offers a transferable degree in a discipline
which has an approved TMC, the CCC must develop an
AA-T/AS-T in that discipline
• The CCC has 18 months from the time said TMC is
approved to develop the AA-T/AS-T
• TMC’s for “Areas of Emphasis” are coming
• The CCC must market these degrees to students
Too Many Units ->60:
 Computer Science
 Chemistry
 Biology??
Don’t have all the
courses required for
Core:
 Geology
 Journalism ?
1. Know whether Cabrillo has a degree in place,
or is developing a degree in your discipline.
 Criminal Justice
(Administration of Justice)
 Art History
 Business Administration
 Communication Studies
 Early Childhood Education
 English
 Geography - submitted
 History
 Kinesiology
 Mathematics
 Music
 Psychology
 Philosophy - submitted
 Physics
 Political Science
 Sociology
 Spanish
 Theater
 As of January, 2014
 Under-development:
 Have Issues:
 Anthropology
Too Many Units ->60:
 Elementary Education
 Computer Science
 Studio Art
 Chemistry
 Journalism? College considering
 Biology??
Cabrillo doesn’t offer all the courses
required for Core:
 Geology
 Journalism ?
2. Understand the “similar major” piece
Students will benefit from these degrees only if they CSU
they attend accepts the major as “similar”
 This may include CSU majors that are not in the same
discipline, e.g.
e.g. “Similar” to many Concentrations within a major
e.g. “Similar” to major(s) across discipline
 This degree can work for anyone targeting a CSU
o Still need to use ASSIST.org AND see a Counselor!
 The List B and C areas of these degrees have choices of
courses for students … a student must choose the course
that aligns with ASSIST articulation for the major at the
CSU(s) to which they are applying.
 It gets complicated!
Degree works especially well for students who…
oWant to earn AA/AS and prepare to transfer
However . . .
EVERY STUDENT FROM CABRILLO WHO IS
TRANSFERRING SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO
ACHIEVE A DEGREE, i.e. GRADUATE
o May be a Liberal Arts and Sciences degree
AA-T/AS-T Degrees also work for students who:
oAre applying to a (non-local) CSU
oAre applying to a CSU which has no articulation
with your CCC (e.g. Fresno State)
oAre applying to a CSU with “similar” major
oAre applying to impacted CSU (campus or major)
May also be strong preparation for other universities, e.g. Students
attending a UC can achieve an AA-T/AS-T, as long as they have also
completed all the requirements for the UC.
How are AA-T/AS-T degrees
considered in admission?
CSU Campus Admissions
Impaction Status
No Impaction
Similar Degree
Local Applicant
Similar Degree
Non-Local Applicant
Priority Admission
Min. 2.0 GPA
(Ed. Code 66745)
Campus Impacted
Priority Admission
Min. 2.0 GPA
(Ed. Code 66745)
Supplementary GPA
Requirement
Additional .20
GPA Point
Program Impacted
(Any CA Student)
Supplementary GPA Requirement
Additional .10 GPA Point
(20 seats or more)
Campus & Program Impacted
(Any CA Student)
Supplementary GPA Requirement
Additional .10 GPA Point
(20 seats or more)
 A student at your college wants to study
Communication at CSULA. Questions:
 Is the AA-T in this major offered at your
college?
 Is a similar major offered at CSULA?
 Is the major/campus impacted?
 Is your college in CSULA’s local admission
area?
What other ideas do you have
for marketing these degrees?
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 More TMCs and local AA-T/AS-T degrees being
developed
 Agricultural Plant Sciences
 Health Science
 Information and Communication Technologies
 Areas of Emphasis Degrees
QUESTIONS?
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