Chartered Application Presentation
(Brisbane EA office, 15th November 2012, 1.00 pm)
S. VIGNAESWARAN
B. Eng (MONASH, AUSTRALIA)
MSC. BIS (KEELE, UNITED KINGDOM)
MIE(Aust) EA NO: 3393786
This presentation is based maximally on the Brisbane experience, and has
been supplemented with Malaysian experience where it is unavoidable.
Agenda for today’s presentation
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GENERAL INTRODUCTION
COMPLIANCE TO EA REQUIREMENTS
MACRO VIEW OF PROJECTS DONE
K E Y V E R I F I C AT I O N A R E A S
C A B L E S I Z I N G S O F T WA R E
C O N V E Y O R B E LT D E S I G N
A U S T R A L I A N S TA N D A R D S
 S U S TA I N A B I L I T Y
 ENGINEERING ETHICS
My electrical (electrical
automation) engineering
experience.
Project
Location
Category
Details
Role
University campus
Saudi Arabia
Building Services
AUD 2.2 billion
Consultant
Coal Seam Gas
India
Oil & Gas upstream
AUD 10 million ++
EPM / Designer
Power plant
Malaysia
Utility
AUD 700,000 ++
DPM /Site Engineer
Renewable / Energy audit
Malaysia
Utility
AUD $20,000
Design Consultant
Wilson Transformer
Victoria, Australia
OEM
Transformer design
Designer / Trainee
ELCOM
Sydney, Australia
Quasi-Govt
Power station EIA
Designer / Trainee
Bitumen plant
Malaysia
Private sector
AUD 100 million ++
EPM / Designer
100 ++ tenders
(international)
Malaysia
All segments
Up to AUD 130 million
Designer / Estimator
Distribution SCADA
Malaysia
Utility Automation
$100 million ++
Specialist vendor
Mineral Mining plant
Brisbane, Australia
Mining
AUD 100 million ++
E&I Designer
currently
Malaysia
Utility
On-going
Utility designer
Points to note:
 Varied projects
 International
 Multi-market segment
 Large scale projects
 Multiple roles & scope
 22 years of experience
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Submission reference: item A- K
5 years
10 years
Design
Site work
6 years
Management
1 years
others
Compliance reference: C1.1 – C1.3
What I have done to maximize my chances of being a chartered engineer ….
Shared values
My practices to date
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Ethical behavior
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I have indirectly fulfilled this with my signed CV and by the
comments in the ethical slides
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Competent performance
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I have published 3 international and numerous career related
papers and have fulfilled the CPD requirements in 1 year
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Innovative practices
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This will be elaborated later in the standards, conveyor design
and cable sizing slides
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Equality of opportunity
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I have worked with employers from all background and under
varied circumstances in Saudi, India and elsewhere, like EWB.
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Social justices
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I have supported and made a difference by undertaking work in
developing and needed areas like CSG and renewable energy
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Sustainable development
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This will be elaborated later under the sustainability slide
The learning process is as important as the knowledge which is acquired
Compliance reference: C1.1 – C1.3
Projects that I have been involved (in Australia)
 MAK – copper/molybdenum project E&I specifications
 Velta – Arc furnace plant electrical (green field) design
 Ernest Henry, Mt. Isa Magnetite plant
– E&I expansion / upgrade (brown field) design
Covered areas:
Greenfield, Brownfield, Standards, Design and Engineering Office Practices
Compliance reference: C2.1 – C2.6, C3.1 – C3.6, E1B.1 – E1B.8, E4B.1 – E4B.4
MAK project
Three areas of concern:
COMPREHENSIBLE list
of applicable standards
for CB, Tx, cables etc?
Can the common and
specific standards be
referenced separately?
Can I sign the
specification
documentation prior to
being a chartered?
Specifications referring Australian standards
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080-I610-0001_0
AS / NZS 3000
AS ISO 15745
Project Specification for Process Control Systems.pdf
Electrical installations
Industrial Automation Systems and Integration - Open Systems
Application Integration Framework
Industrial Automation Systems and Integration - Integration of
Industrial Data for Exchange, Access and Sharing
Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP Code)
Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC)
Functional Safety of Electrical/Electronic/Programmable Electronic
Safety Related Systems
Programmable Controllers
Functional Safety - Safety Instrumented Systems for the Process
Industry Sector
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AS ISO 18876
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AS 60529
AS 61000,
AS 61508,
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AS IEC 61131,
AS IEC 61511,
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080-I610-0002_0
AS 2381
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AS 3000
AS 60529
Project Specification for Nucleonic Instruments.pdf
(All parts) – Electrical equipment for explosive gas atmospheres –
Selection, installation and maintenance
Electrical installations
Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP Code)
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080-I610-0003_2
AS/NZS 3000
AS/NZS 60079
AS/NZS 60529
AS/NZS 61000
AS/NZS 61241
IEC 60534
ISA 5.1
ISA S75.01.01
Project Specification for Control Valves.pdf
Electrical installations
Electrical apparatus for explosive gas atmospheres
Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP code)
Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC)
Electrical apparatus for use in the presence of combustible dust
Industrial-process control valves
Instrument Symbols and Identification
Flow Equations for Sizing Control Valves
Compliance reference: C2.1, C2.4, E1B.8
Velta arc
furnace design
Detail of electrical design
logistics;
● reliability of source
● redundancy for S/S
● cable routing logistics
● power harmonics and dips
Gaining confidence in the
transferred knowledge is as
important, if not more than the
transfer of knowledge itself
= technology absorption
Greenfield design
Compliance reference: C1.4
Xstrata Mt. Isa Magnetite plant capacity expansion project
Existing
drawing
Client
standards
highlighted
to Client
Inconsistency
check
Client
approval
Internal
design
process
Electrical
(conveyor)
design
process
Operations & maintenance
Existing
design
guidelines
Component failure
Contingency
consideration
Power failure
Australian
standards
Cable design
process
Automation failure
Client
approval
Brownfield design
New
drawings
Applicable
standards
Revised
guidelines
Compliance reference: C2.1 – C2.6
Electrical design software challenges
( standardize electrical design activities)
No flexibility /
traceability in its use
Electrical
cable design
No guidelines in its
design usage
PowerPac
Pro
Software
issues
(slides)
Constraint in time
and resources
PowerCAD
design software
Costly to purchase /
no vendor support
Use demo version
for initial design
Verify the
output
Sample test
calculations
Field side
verification
Electrical design office administration
AS 3000
guidelines
Submit for
Client approval
Use Excel
spreadsheet
Format cable design
presentation in Excel
Finalize cable
size calculation
Compliance reference: C3.1 – C3.6
PowerPac
software issues - 1
An upstream breaker of
16 Amps was chosen
with a specific let
through energy.
Cable size : 25 mm2
Compliance reference: E4B.1 – E4B.4
PowerPac
software issues - 2
A larger upstream
breaker was chosen
with its corresponding
let through energy
Cable size : 35 mm2
Compliance reference: E4B.1 – E4B.4
PowerPac
software issues - 3
A much larger breaker
size with a comparatively
smaller let through
energy
Cable size : 25 mm2
Do we accept this on the basis that
a RELIABLE 100% fast trip will be
required to limit the let through
energy?
Does this software address
copper clad aluminum (CCA)
cables?
Does the standards address
copper clad aluminum (CCA)
cables?
Why do cable short circuit
calculations? Worst case = costly
cable size
Does the software establish the
boundary of design accuracy? kV?
Compliance reference: E4B.1 – E4B.4
CONVEYOR BELT
PULL WIRE
SWITCH DESIGN
Pullwire
This active logic circuit
carries continuous
current at 110Vac which
is energy inefficient.
The contacts can weld
under continuous
current at 110Vac
The pullwire logic can
be implemented by
‘negative logic’ circuits
as in the Oil & Gas field.
Compliance reference: E4B.1 – E4B.4
Australian
standards
This compliance
flowchart refers to
electronic switches while
the prior one refers to
electro-mechanical
switches.
Standards referenced
determine application or
visa versa?
Need to search
compliance at Clause
level to introduce cross
segment good practices.
Do we introduce SIL
and redundancy of
power supply?
Compliance reference: E4B.1 – E4B.4
Sustainability -
The need to fulfill current needs without adversely
impacting future options or needs.
Non-sustainability
Sustainability
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Using a cable one size larger to cater for
future loads
Placing plant equipment and building
with a contiguous future growth space
Using electrical design software with
systematic design approaches
Considering environmental issues and
co-ordinating with the other disciplines
for a holistic design approach
Energy saving approaches as in the
conveyor design issues
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Sizing the cable exactly for the current
load capacity
Placing plant equipment randomly
and/or with no usable space
Doing design calculations on paper
without traceability and/or verifiability.
Consider only E&I issues and set design
responsibility battery limits
Accept current practices and not
consider possible improvements or
enhancements
To have the same privileges or close to the same benefits in the future as a result of our present action
Compliance reference: E1B.1 – E1B.4
Engineering ethics
This can be summarized into 2 key
words;
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Judgment
Judgment is making an
informed decision as what is
contextually right and wrong.
(why)
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Ethically wrong but legally right circumstances in engineering
practices …
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Charging Client for research work while doing Client’s project
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Not highlighting possible operational and maintenance
impact of design decisions
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Not requesting for additional resources to carry out a
comprehensive plant design
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Not finding international jobs when the local jobs are limited
or to gain exposure
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Not changing specialization or moving out of comfort zone
when the circumstances require to do so.
Transparency
Transparency involves
disclosure of the whole issue
over the period in concern, to
all the stakeholders.
Stakeholders involves all
those affect by the issue now
and in the future.
Disclosure involves discretion
(or it is whistle blowing)
“ The world needs more smart, intelligent and tech savvy engineers and less of
cunning, devious and legally savvy practitioners ”
Compliance reference: C3.1 – C3.6
Chartered Application Presentation
(Brisbane EA office, 15th November 2012, 1.00 pm)
The End
Why I Should be a Chartered Engineer
Outcomes
Activities
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I have been a professional in my field
My EA submission is based on 1 year in
Australia
I had limited opportunities to fully comply
I have adopted continuous learning process
I am sharing my knowledge with my peers
I need to share my knowledge with my
juniors in a recognized manner
I need to legally contribute to the Australian
engineering arena
I intend to work and live in Australia
permanently
Completed CPD and Stage I requirements
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I have had no adversities throughout my career
The focus was on my Australian experience only
A full project life cycle was not possible due to
current global economic circumstances
Learning flow chart highlighted in the slides
EA project management presentation and
international papers presented
I have 22 years of validated international
engineering experiences to share
CPEng is required to practice in QLD and a
valued asset elsewhere in Australia
CPEng is a necessary recognition to provide
designer services, increase job and career
opportunities
Currently working in Malaysia as an Electrical Utility Designer