Australian Communications and Media Authority – Safer Internet Day Radio 5 February 2013 – Interview with Wendy Protheroe, CEO Kids Helpline Australian Communications and Media Authority – Cybersmart Kids Helpline Wendy Protheroe ROSALIE Good afternoon, Wendy. Thank you very much for coming along and being part of our Safer Internet Day radio program. Um… WENDY PROTHEROE Thank you. It’s very good to be here. ROSALIE What I’d like to talk to you, today, um, about is about the Kids Helpline and the-the vital service that you provide. WENDY PROTHEROE Well, Kids Helpline’s been around, now, for twenty-two years. So, we’re not a new service, but certainly, we’re a growing service. And kids can come to us by web and e-mail or by telephone and talk to us about any issue that they wish to. So, it’s quite broad, actually, what they talk to us about. But in the cyber-world, certainly, cyber-bullying continues to be an issue that they raise with us. We’re getting growths in, um, in sexting, information questions about sexting. Kids are also… This is a good thing that they’re coming to us about… They’re coming to us, talking about being a good, um, citizen… ROSALIE Oh, okay. WENDY PROTHEROE …on the, um, on the web, which is really good. So, they’re actually saying to us, ‘What are some of the things that we need to do, so that we can show others what’s happening.’ That’s really important for us, because I think that’s a-- that’s a move we’ve been waiting to see. ROSALIE Yeah. Now, then… WENDY PROTHEROE Page 1 of 5 Australian Communications and Media Authority – Safer Internet Day Radio 5 February 2013 – Interview with Wendy Protheroe, CEO Kids Helpline So, while we get lots of problems, that’s a nice part. And of course we also, you know, kids can come to us and talk about child abuse and they’ll come to us and talk about general problems that they’re having as they try and get through their day. We get lots of kids coming to us over the web and wanting to talk about really serious issues, such as, um, self-harming and suicide. And-- And that’s why we-- we only have qualified counsellors, who’ll work. Because they can come and chat about anything and then, we’ll fit them into a counseling call, if that’s what’s needed. ROSALIE Do you find that kids come and talk to you, rather than to their mum or dad or someone else in their family? WENDY PROTHEROE You know, I don’t know how many times we talk to kids, either through Kids Helpline or directly at schools and say to them, ‘If you feel as though you’re being bullied or something’s happening to you, tell an adult that you trust. Tell your mum or dad.’ And yet, when we do all the research, we still find that it’s a really low proportion of kids who go to their parents about things. So, I think coming to us via web, what they seem to do is test us out, in some way. So, they come and they start to have a chat about general conversations, because in all the time we’ve been around, what we hear from kids most often is, ‘We just wish someone would listen.’ And that’s what they’re doing. They come to us and you’re right: They start to talk about something and if they get listened to and they get-their questions get answered with dignity, then, suddenly, they’ll open up and they’ll tell you what’s really happening for them in the world. ROSALIE And is that also, perhaps, a way of-- of talking to someone who’s not going to, perhaps, overreact or have that personal response that a parent might have? Page 2 of 5 Australian Communications and Media Authority – Safer Internet Day Radio 5 February 2013 – Interview with Wendy Protheroe, CEO Kids Helpline WENDY PROTHEROE Mm, yeah, no, I don’t know about you, but I know I’m a parent; and I know, sometimes, when the kids say something to me, I will want to react straightaway, because my emotions get involved. ROSALIE Yeah. WENDY PROTHEROE And what kids don’t like is when they say to their mum, ‘Somebody’s sending me messages over the phone I don’t want to hear’, or ‘Every time I turn on my computer, I get an e-mail about something’… They don’t want to say that to parents, because often, parents then go, ‘Well, that’s all right, we’ll take it off you.’ ROSALIE That’s right. WENDY PROTHEROE And that’s punishing the kids for trying to start a conversation. What we have to learn is nowadays, kids have made their choice. Technology is their preferred communication method. What we have to do is find a way to have that being a good and safe way of communicating via technology and backing it up with listening and face-to-face communication. ROSALIE It is important, isn’t it, that kids talk to someone. I mean… WENDY PROTHEROE Mm. ROSALIE … in just the calls that we’ve had and the research that we’ve done, there is a-- a worrying level of-- of young people who don’t want to talk to anybody, who don’t talk to anyone. But it is actually really critical that they do. WENDY PROTHEROE Page 3 of 5 Australian Communications and Media Authority – Safer Internet Day Radio 5 February 2013 – Interview with Wendy Protheroe, CEO Kids Helpline Yeah. It’s, um, it’s interesting that we almost need to be role modeling to kids that we value and respect the technology that they use, but it’s one part of communication; it’s not only the communication. There is a-- an emerging issue, that’s happening with kids, now and that’s those who are addicted to the use of technology. That’s something we’re gonna have to watch, over the next few years, that kids take themselves away from basic communication, where they can see somebody, get messages from their face, start to get some warmth about communicating; and going to a place where they only objectively talk online. So, we’ve just got to watch how we, as mums and dads and teachers… Anybody who’s caring for kids, how we make sure that we intervene and include that really important person-to-person communication. ROSALIE It is a learned skill, isn’t it, that ability to communicate and to be able to read those cues, um, that you’re not getting when you-- when you’re communicating online. Um, what’s the best way for-- for kids and for parents to contact the Kids Helpline? WENDY PROTHEROE Well, there’s a range of ways: The Kids Helpline website, as I said to you, which is kidshelp.com.au, which you can have a look at the areas that are of interest, which gives you some-- some hot topics about key things that kids will talk to us about. Um, and for mums and dads that have got primary school kids, it’s a good tool, when a primary school kid can look up and talk about going to a party and how you talk to people and get on with the people… In their age-appropriate language. ROSALIE Yeah. WENDY PROTHEROE That’s really important. If kids want to talk to a counsellor, they can ring us on Page 4 of 5 Australian Communications and Media Authority – Safer Internet Day Radio 5 February 2013 – Interview with Wendy Protheroe, CEO Kids Helpline 1800 55 1800. And they get connected through to a tertiary qualified counsellor, who will listen, then respond. If they want to come to us and use web-counselling, they come back in through that website, again or e-mail. They’ll get the addresses in there. So, it’s really remembering the number and kidshelp. ROSALIE The… WENDY PROTHEROE And we do operate twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, every single day of the year. So, the counsellors spend Christmas day here and Easter here. And it is available for kids anywhere in Australia. ROSALIE Okay, and there’s always someone to talk to. WENDY PROTHEROE Yes. ROSALIE Well, thank you very much for your time, this afternoon, Wendy, it’s been great. Page 5 of 5