Bearing Witness a Pilgrimage An interview with Pake Hall This summer, Pake made a bearing witness pilgrimage from Gothenburg to the Bofors manufacturing district in Karlskoga. He originally planned to go alone, but others became interested and in the end it was an interfaith pilgrimage involving around forty people. We talked to Pake about his pilgrimage. Q: How did the idea for this pilgrimage come about? Q: Was there any specific inspiration for making a pilgrimage? Q: How did the typical day go during the pilgrimage? Pake: The idea took root in my mind in the summer of 2014, when I was involved in online discussions about the refugee crisis and its connection to Swedish weapons exports. The debates were very polarised, often becoming pointless slanging matches. And I realised how little I knew from my own personal experience about the things I felt so passionate about. I felt a deep need to take the time to immerse myself in the question of war, its proximity and how Sweden’s weapons exports affected me and the world I lived in. Pake: There is a soldier-turned-Zenmonk called Claude AnShin Thomas whose accounts of the peace pilgrimages he has made all over the world I find very inspiring. And I had already undertaken a pilgrimage to Auschwitz-Birkenau organised by the Zen Peacemakers Order, which seeks to combine meditation with social action. I wanted to make a pilgrimage based on their three tenets: notknowing, bearing witness to the joy and suffering of the world and doing action arising from not knowing and bearing witness. Pake: We started each day with a silent meditation circle for those joining the day’s walk (between five and fifteen people on any given day). Then we had a Council Circle, a kind of sharing and listening practice about what had come up during meditation. After that it was breakfast and packing up before we set off. We kept silence for the first half hour of walking. In the evenings, we had meetings with people who wanted to share their stories about their experiences of war, or with the arms industry. Then before we went ZENDO 2/2015 | 25 BEAring WiTnESS -A PilgriMAgE Right in the middle of his very professional presentation he suddenly started telling us about a time when a closed van approached his UN encampment from the Serbian side. Armed troops surrounded the vehicle and when they opened the back door, they saw that it was packed with small children, wrapped in blankets. Children whose parents had sent them into the arms of unknown soldiers because the alternative was even worse. As he was telling us this, he broke down in tears and said: ”Even now, when I see a small child, the only thing I can think of is that van, those children and the choice their parents had to make.” to bed, we meditated together once more and shared our impressions of the day. Q: Tell us about some of the meetings you had. Pake: On the first morning, we went to the port of Skandia and met with Port Four, historically one of the most militant workers’ unions in Sweden, whose members handle Swedish weapons shipments that pass through the port. We were expecting a defensive attitude as we asked what they thought about Sweden’s export of weapons. To our surprise, the atmosphere relaxed after the first five minutes and it was a very open, 26 | ZENDO 2/2015 vulnerable and warm meeting. They spoke of the fact that in today’s world, unions are on the back foot, fighting to retain existing rights, in contrast to the old days when they could afford to fight for solidarity and improved conditions both for themselves and for others. There were many more meetings as the days passed. We met the senior officer from the Nordic peacekeeping mission in Macedonia in 1998, who told us he had left the army and now worked to help Swedish soldiers who had served with the UN in war zones. Many of them have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and are not getting the help they need. Many of us had strong views about commercial involvement in refugee matters. We visited a big refugee home run by businessman Bert Karlsson. The place was run down and looked very depressing. We spoke to some of the people staying there and with the person in charge. Even though there was much room for improvement, we were all impressed by how many activities were offered. A pilgrim who had volunteered at a center in Stockholm run by a charity told us that the accommodation was better there, but here the refugees were being given a chance to do things for themselves. They could grow vegetables, get training, make their own food and so on. In Stockholm they were not allowed to use > The world is seldom black and white. the kitchen and no activities were provided, so a lot of the residents were just sitting around passively. The world is seldom black and white. One of the meetings which made the deepest impression was with a group of Syrian refugees in Mariestad. Some people from the local Christian congregation were there too. The atmosphere was electric and there were tears in people’s eyes as the refugees spoke of the changes the war had wrought in their lives. How suddenly there were youths selling weapons in the streets and how loved ones were dying around them. How reason slowly disappeared from everyday life and polarisation increased with the logic of war and violence. One of the men told of how he tried to protect his children from the daily nightmare of dead bodies in the street. What do you say to a four-year-old who asks you if the man with his face in the gravel is sleeping? They also told how upsetting they found the oversimplified news reporting in the West, where war is usually portrayed as good versus evil. A Kurdish man whose teenage cousin had been shot by the PKK for refusing to fight with them said: ”The Assad regime bombs, the PKK shoots, ISIS burns. Their victims are equally dead.” Something that really struck me was the absence of any talk of vengeance. They had lost their homes and families and been forced to leave wives and children in refugee camps on the way to Sweden, but said with one voice: ”The only winners in war are those who sell weapons. Everyone else loses. We just want peace.” We had been concerned before the meeting that they might feel as if they were the objects of some kind of voyeurism. But they did not feel that way at all. They told us at the end: ”When we came to Sweden it was like arriving in paradise. We had beds, food, a roof over our heads and no need to fear the police. We were filled with the desire to give something back to this fantastic country. But we have not been allowed to. Instead, we have to sit and wait. And wait. We are not locked up, but here we are in a big house in the middle of nowhere, with no money and no possibility to leave since we don’t know anyone. No one wants to listen to our stories, what we have been through. It is a kind of slow death. The fact that you want to hear what we have to say has given us life again. If you ever plan another pilgrimage, let us know so we can come too.” And after the meeting they did start to have contact with the local priest and her congregation, meeting at language cafés and that sort of thing. From one conversation and from listening, new seeds sprang up straight away. Q: The pilgrimage ended a few months ago now. Do you have any reflections on it that you would like to share? Pake: One could ask whether we got what we were looking for. But that is not the right question, since there was no specific agenda, other than to bear witness around war and Swedish weapons exports. Some of the people we met on the way found this very provoking, but now in hindsight I believe that this absence of agenda was what enabled so much to come out of it. If we had had some fixed idea of what was to be gained, it would probably have led to more separation between us and those we met on the way, and also between us and the experience of walking itself. I am very grateful that I had this opportunity to dawdle along dusty country roads beneath the blazing sun, nursing my blisters. Grateful to have been able to take my zazen off the cushion and out into meetings with people I would never have met otherwise. Grateful for the things that came out of those meetings: volunteer work with refugees on the island of Lesbos, language cafés, pilgrims writing books about the experience, renewed energy for non-violent action, pilgrimages with refugees in Stockholm and probably many other things that I have not heard about. ZENDO 2/2015 | 27