People... We hit a topic which required either that George was with us or more research. George wasn't there so I did the research! It is only outline but should give you some idea of the situation. George can correct me as and if necessary The question was about the antiquity of writing - context being Moses and the first five books Moses (1600-1300BC depending on dating you accept) and a modern perception that there was little or no writing at that period - this is just a brief note lifted and summarised from several articles on writing and scripts which shows that writing is far older than that. I hope you find it helpful EGYPT - HIEROGLYPHS and PAPYRUS Egyptologists refer to Egyptian writing as hieroglyphs , today it is seen as one of the world's earliest known writing system. The hieroglyphic script was partly syllabic, partly ideographic. Then came 'Hieratic' which is a cursive form of Egyptian hieroglyphs and was first used during the First Dynasty (c. 2925 BC – c. 2775 BC). Then the term Demotic (in the context of Egypt) came to refer to both the script and the language that followed the Late Ancient Egyptian stage, i.e. from around 2000BC until its marginalization by the Greek Koine in the early centuries AD . After the conquest of Amr ibn al-A'as in the 7th century AD, the Coptic language survived as a spoken language into the Middle Ages . Today, it continues to be the liturgical language of the Christian minority. For many years, the earliest known hieroglyphic inscription was the Narmer Palette, found during excavations at Hierakonpolis (modern Kawm al-Ahmar) in the 1890s , which has been dated to c.3200 BC . However recent archaeological findings reveal that symbols on Gerzean pottery, c.4000 BC, resemble the traditional hieroglyph forms Also in 1998 a German archaeological team under Gunter Dreyer excavating at Abydos (modern Umm el-Qa'ab uncovered tomb U-j which belonged to a Predynastic ruler, and they recovered three hundred clay labels inscribed with proto-hieroglyphics dating to circa 33rd century BC Beginning from around 2700 BC , Egyptians used pictograms to represent vocal sounds -- both vowel and consonant vocalizations. By 2000 BC, 26 pictograms were being used to represent 24 (known) main vocal sounds. The world's oldest known alphabet (c. 1800 BC ) is only an abjad (consonantal) system and was derived from these uniliteral signs as well as other Egyptian hieroglyphs The hieroglyphic script finally fell out of use around the 4th century AD (most recent datable script is AD396). Attempts to decipher it began after the 15th century and were aided by the discovery of the Rosetta Stone (around 200BC – has the same text in 3 languages - Hieroglyphic, Demotic Egyptian and Greek) As an example of the available Literature c. 1800 BC : Story of Sinuhe (about 4000 words in translation) and Ipuwer papyrus (about 6350 words in translation) c. 1600 BC : Westcar Papyrus (3 stories - may be more than 1000 years old when written down in this papyrus - about 2800 words in translation) c. 1600 BC: Edwin Smith Papyrus (may be as early as 1750 - 22 pages of medical text) c. 1600 BC : Eberus Papyrus ( extensive medical text of 110 pages - dated varyingly 1650 to 1300 but probably before 1350) I stopped there in searching - for with even the early date for Moses we have a papyrus of 20 odd pages, and for the late date one of more than 110 pages. I believe that preparation and use of papyrus was still at this period restricted to the Pharoahs. If so; it is part of God's provision that Moses was bought up in the Pharoanic household adopted by Pharaoh's daughter. I am not saying that Moses wrote in Hieroglyphic - although he could have - merely that papyrus scripts long enough for the books of the Pentateuch existed in his time. ----------------------------The texts found in Canaan of the Mosiac period are either different hieroglyph scripts similar to Egyptian, or a cuneiform script similar to those of Babylonian origin, or a Canaanite linear script thought to be the precursor of both Hebrew and Greek ( it is thought to be a Semitic version of Phoenician) and a couple of other different scripts *** NB. Semitic here refers to descendents of Shem, not merely Hebrews1 What is or is not ‘Canaanite’? Within the general group of the NW Semitic languages and dialects is biblical Hebrew and the W Semitic (The Tel el Amarna tablets can correctly be termed ‘S Canaanite’) along with Moabite and Phoenician. Separate but related are Aramaic and Ya’udic. Between these two groups comes Ugaritic. Some think that Ugaritic is Canaanite to be classed with Hebrew, etc. Ugaritic itself betrays historical development linguistically, and thus the Ugaritic of the 14th/13th centuries BC is closer to Hebrew than is the archaic language of the great epics. Hence it is possible to view NW Semitic as including S Canaanite (Hebrew, etc.), N Canaanite (Ugaritic) and Aramaic. ----------------------------As it is quite reasonable that the Semitic origin of Israel (Abraham came from Ur) might lead to a Babylonian based script then I looked at Cuneiform. Biblical Hebrew Script is clearly derived from a 'cut into stone' or 'drawn onto clay' alphabet. (see Job 19:23-24) BABYLON CUNEIFORM and TABLETS The cuneiform script is one of the earliest known forms of written expression. Created by the Sumerians in the late 4th millennium BC, cuneiform writing began as a system of pictographs. Over time, the pictorial representations became simplified and more abstract. Cuneiforms were written on clay tablets, on which symbols were drawn with a blunt reed called a stylus. The impressions left by the stylus were wedge shaped, thus giving rise to the name cuneiform, "wedge-writing" Cuneiform pictograms were drawn on clay tablets in vertical columns with a pen made from a sharpened reed stylus. Cuneiform tablets could be fired in kilns to provide a permanent record, or they could be recycled if permanence was not needed. Many of the tablets found by archaeologists were preserved because they were baked when attacking armies burned the building in which they were kept. Cunieform was first used by the Babylonians and later on was adapted and used by the Assyrians. Invented by the Babylonians to record the Sumerian language, cuneiform was 1 In Genesis 10:21-31 Shem is described as the father of Aram, Asshur, and others: the Biblical ancestors of the Aramaeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Sabaeans, and Hebrews, etc., all of whose languages are closely related; the language family containing them was therefore named Semitic by linguists. However, the Canaanites and Amorites also spoke a language belonging to this family, and are therefore also termed Semitic in linguistics despite being described in Genesis as sons of Ham (See Sons of Noah). Shem is also described in Genesis as the father of the Elamites and the descendants of Lud, whose languages were not Semitic. (by contrast; anti-Semitic almost always means anti-Jewish) subsequently adopted by the Akkadians, Elamites, Hittites and Assyrians to write their own languages and was widely used in Mesopotamia for about 3000 years (from about 3000BC) , though the syllabic nature of the script as it was refined by the Sumerians was unintuitive to the Semitic speakers. Most later adaptations of Sumerian cuneiform preserved at least some aspects of the Sumerian script. Written Akkadian included phonetic symbols from the Sumerian syllabary, together with logograms that were read as whole words. Many signs in the script were polyvalent, having both a syllabic and logographic meaning. When the cuneiform script was adapted to writing the Hittite language, a layer of Akkadian logographic spellings was added to the script, with the result that we no longer know the pronunciations of many Hittite words conventionally written by logograms. The complexity of the system prompted the development of a number of simplified versions of the script. Old Persian was written in a subset of simplified cuneiform characters, that formed a simple, semi-alphabetic syllabary, using far fewer wedge strokes than Assyrian used, together with a handful of logograms for frequently occurring words like "god" and "king." The Ugaritic (a city in Canaan) language was written using the Ugaritic alphabet, a standard Semitic style alphabet (an abjad - consonants only) written using the cuneiform method. -----------------------------------Written Hebrew as we know it is more difficult - the earliest known text is just pre-exilic (say about 620BC certainly after 800BC) and even that is described as 'paleo-hebrew script' - even Christian resources doubt the existence of written Hebrew as we now know it much before that time. So we do not know what Moses wrote in. I would guess a cuneiform script rather than hieroglyphics - but we must remember that he was brought up in Egypt - we just do not know. However, what is beyond dispute is that writing in the area of the Middle East had existed for at least 1000 years before Moses - if not nearly 2000 years; and that extensive writings on papyrus were known at least 400 years before Moses Just to put it into context: Earliest pictograms are Sumerian Cuneiform (3400BC although stylised shapes for manufactured articles on Sumerian Pottery go back to 6000BC and for farm produce to 9000BC) Earliest Hieroglyphs in Egypt are around 3300BC although some proto-hieroglyphs are known from about 4000BC Formalised Chinese script dates from around 221BC but the Earliest Chinese pictograms are from around 1600BC Mayan and American pictographical scenes may date back about 1500 years to say AD400 (certainly later than Moronai's gold sheets!!) (see Mormonism) Written Sanskrit was in well established form when the earliest of the Vedas - the RigVeda - was written between 1500-1300BC -consisting of more than 1000 hymns in 10 books (mandalas) little is known about the development of the written language but a book of that length implies the probability of several cenuries of development = Note, it is thought that indo spoken languages are the root-source of most, if not all, of our european spoken languages