** Meeting summary notes ** Fall 2009 North America Risk Management Council Yountville (Napa), California September 9-10, 2009 Risk Management Council Members in attendance (alpha order): Steve Allison, The Shaw Group, Inc. Dan Baldwin, Leggett & Platt Mike Bergines, eBay David Binder, Nestle USA Tim Bunt, CB Richard Ellis Vince Coffey, Novelis, Inc. Mark Davis, Constellation Brands, Inc. Manny DiFilippo, George Weston Limited Howard Edelstein, Sealed Air Corporation Paula Gentile, MGM Mirage Greg Hoff, ServiceMaster Leslie Lamb, Cisco Glenn Peterson, EWI/Contran Dora Pisano, Illinois Tool Works, Inc. Stacey Regan, General Electric Company Debbie Rodgers, Aramark Scott Sanderson, Koch Industries, Inc. Alain Simard, Saputo Inc. David Spruance, Republic Services, Inc. Claudia Temple, Kraft Marty Timpano, SYSCO Corporation Heidrun Toben, Alstom, Inc. William Zachry, Safeway Zurich attendees and presenters (alpha order): Chris Barnes – Chief Claims Officer, Global Corporate Valerie Butt – EVP, Customer Relationship Management, GCiNA Robert Curtis – Head of Strategic Risk Solutions Group, GCiNA JP Fowler – EVP, Customer Relationship Management, GCiNA Monique Hesseling – Chief Marketing Officer, Zurich Global Energy Daniel Hofmann - Group Chief Economist, Zurich Financial Services (via teleconference) Paul Horgan - CUO, GCiNA Mike Kerner - CEO, GCiNA Brenda Lombardo - SVP, Head of Marketing, GCiNA Lisa Jablonski – Chief Administrative Officer, GCiNA Greg Maguire – Head of Customer & Distribution, GCiNA Kevin McCracken - EVP, Head of Casualty, GCiNA Bob Peretti – Broker Relationship Leader, GCiNA Jason Schupp – Head of Regulatory Affairs, Zurich North America Joe Tocco - EVP, Head of Property, GCiNA Urs Uhlmann - SVP, Head of Corporate Business, Global Corporate Canada Mario Vitale - CEO, Global Corporate Sherif Zakhary – Head of Corporate Life & Pensions, Zurich Global Life Welcome new members: Steve Allison, The Shaw Group Inc. Dan Baldwin - Leggett & Platt Mike Bergines – eBay Dora Pisano – Illinois Tool Works Inc. Stacey Regan – General Electric Company Alain Simard – Saputo Inc. David Spruance – Republic Services, Inc. Claudia Temple – Kraft William Zachry – Safeway Key messages While many challenges remain in the marketplace, Zurich's has had a very positive result so far in 2009. Zurich continues to manage risk conservatively to ensure financial strength and stability and to be there for customers when they need our help. Zurich's culture of customer centricity is embedded throughout the organization and is totally focused on delivering what matters to our customers. Zurich is on a journey of organizational transformation that will ultimately deliver a consistent customer experience everywhere in the world. Zurich's talent management philosophy is having the right people in the right places. Among our key emphases for profitable growth are international program property & casualty business, marine and foreign casualty. We will continue to rely heavily on a market-leading relationship leader model for managing and strengthening our customer relationships. Greg Maguire, Head of Customer & Distribution Management, GCiNA – Welcome and Overview of RMC Welcome Best-attended RMC meeting to date – 23 members in attendance.. Introduce special guests: o Sherif Zakhary o Jason Schupp o Daniel Hofmann Welcome new members: o (See list above) Thanks to retiring members. Thank you for your involvement & feedback and taking the time to join us. Greatly value relationships we've built both individually and through the Council. This is YOUR COUNCIL! We are here to speak frankly with you and to listen to what you have to say. We will take away your recommendations, ideas, criticisms, etc., and we will act on them! Why the RMC? Encourage constructive dialog between large corporations and Zurich. Establish two-way communication between Zurich senior management and industry representatives on economic, regulatory and social issues which may affect our industry or our customers' industries. Create an understanding of Zurich and of its customers' product and service needs so as to align our respective operations to meet these needs. Provide Risk Managers an opportunity to exchange information. Seek collaborative development of tangible solutions Reminder to members… Be sure to consult the RMC Members Only site often! Your site is now also an embedded link within your Zurich Virtual Concierge! Zurich Virtual Concierge preview Click around and "Hunt for the Golden Bell." Familiarize with your personal ZVC. Check out the Zurich Virtual Literature Rack, also a link from your ZVC. The VLR is a state-of-the-art catalog of Zurich information, solutions and services Mission statement, objectives, terms of service, membership criteria. Mario Vitale, CEO, Global Corporate – Opening remarks First face-to-face meeting in a year; supported expense reduction goals. We appreciated members' support. Still nothing better than face-to-face. No one could have imagined the events of the past 12 months and the impact on the economic environment. Let's review ZFS results; state of the market; customer centricity activities. Zurich results: o ZFS fared better than competitors. o Spent much of the first half of 2009 visiting customers. o 26 straight quarters of profitability; three quarters of increasing profitability since crisis hit in September 2008. o Impact on financials – top line with local currency adjustment up 2 percent. o Grew policyholder surplus by 14 percent. o Combined ratio flat; a good result in this environment. o Again, fared much better than everyone else; stock rising. o Zurich managing risks well; strong risk management program in place. o Axel Lehmann, Group Chief Risk Officer, Zurich Financial Services, has managed well and taken right actions on investment portfolio; well-managed approach that helped us during first half of year. New CEO o Jim Schiro did a fabulous job of managing financial operations; now retiring. o New CEO promoted internally; Martin Senn. o Martin has played major role in strong Zurich result; managed investment portfolio. o Martin's approach will be to maintain consistency of our approach in the coming years, good news for all of us. Global Corporate focus o Our focus is on the delivery of our value proposition. o 13,000 customers in 190 countries. o Zurich number 2 worldwide. o Focus is to grow business, grow profit and improve loss ratios/expenses. o Difficult to measure market share. o o Customer exposures were shrinking due to economy, but Zurich's position remains strong. Managing improvement in loss ratio; less catastrophes; managing expense ratios. State of the market – Challenges o Despite financial stresses, competition strong and industry results not good. o Capacity shrinking. o Zurich working to be responsible; strong balance sheet. o Continue to invest in our businesses; $40 million in improvements to make us more efficient and effective. o Technology updates: Underwriting Workstation tool to assist underwriters around the world; pricing accuracy, etc. o Zurich guided by your need for 100 percent transparency. o Increased regulatory actions will have many implications; global issue. o Increased governance will raise costs to insurers and may be reflected in rates. o Insurance and banking. Be compliant Consult with regulators Keep costs down Customer centricity o "Delivering to you when it matters" – what does that mean? o How do you feel we are doing in the journey that we are on? o The commitment to be customer centric is more than just wanting to run an ad campaign. o We take the feedback you give us and measure how we are doing on the journey; the journey will require action on our part. o Customer centricity embedded in our culture. o Global Corporate can be Number One: Financial stability critical Operational stability critical Value proposition/global network Transparency/consistency Professional claims and customer services – how we respond and how fast Risk engineering – worldwide, second-to-none, strongest o Relationship Management Model Delivered seamlessly around the world Model that others are trying to copy Zurich delivers on its promises Worldwide team – refining & growing Six reasons why Global Corporate is best positioned to meet customer needs o Financial and operational stability o Global network o Transparency & consistency o Professional claims & customer service o Risk engineering expertise o Relationship management model (To RMC members) How are we doing? Are we being successful? What needs to be improved? o Question – Manny DiFilippo – We have some lines of business with AIG and a lot of business with Zurich; what is your view about what went wrong at AIG and what is Zurich doing differently? Vitale – Great question. Zurich practices holistic risk management approach. Zurich's approach to risk is a spectrum of "keep/transfer/mitigate." Jim Schiro got Zurich out of credit default swaps years ago. Zurich manages our risk and balance sheet in a way that makes a great deal of difference. Kerner – Difficult question (AIG). The internal model we use is one in which we manage our risk to maintain an AA rating. Some of the banks didn't accurately assess the 2,000-year event. o Question – Manny DiFilippo – Is Zurich's philosophy part of Swiss culture? Is it just that there is a different tolerance for risk? Vitale – Yes, it is a philosophy and a culture. Leadership is conservative; seriously manage risk, even the risks of our investment portfolio. o Comment – Heidrun Toben – Financial products were badly understood; insurance is a different matter. Situation we saw was similar to what Lloyd's went through in the late 80s and 90s with the spiral. Surprised the press didn't pick up on that. o Question – Paula Gentile – What is Zurich's definition of market leadership? Vitale – Zurich wants to be the most relevant market for customers; ultimately the number one choice; maintain strong balance sheet. Mike Kerner, CEO, GCiNA – GCiNA results and outlook In 2009, Global Corporate in North America has faced a lot of challenges. Tough year: o Hurricane Ike o Interest rate issues o Reinsurers raising rates We knew we needed to get own house in order. At this point, took a lot of the right actions. We have great confidence going forward. Grew our business according to our strategy. Underwriting margin improvement Four key components o Pricing strategy– taking a differentiated approach o Targeted new business writings that meet our target returns o Technical Excellence o Generate greater fee income through selling more value added service Strategies/Priorities for 2009 Operational transformation Profitable growth Customer centricity Talent management Delivering what customers need Feedback from customers. Remain a strong financial partner. Pass along Zurich efficiencies to customers. Deliver One Zurich experience for customers around the globe. Be a market leader and consistent performer. Employer of choice and actively seek young talent. Target for growth – International business IPB Property Foreign casualty Global Corporate Transformation Program Globally integrated approach Some approaches need to remain local and regional Need to be consistent in approach either way Delivering the proposition sales materials; products/propositions Consistent approach Zurich Virtual Concierge & Virtual Literature Rack Two revolutionary, online tools Developed to enhance our communication with you In summary Good year so far in 2009 Many challenges Strategy in place to achieve the right returns and the right margins Operational transformation – right people doing the right things Question – Howard Edelstein – Who gets better treatment when it comes to rate actions – long-term customers or new and potential customers? Kerner – Zurich's underwriting Technical Price applies to both. Comment – Steve Allison – I would like to know more about your people strategy; I've had five underwriters in four years. Kerner – Zurich is working hard to attract good people; an increasing number of people want to join Zurich; Global Associate program helping with the development of our best people. Comment – David Spruance – We can help you define your market strategy; need consistency; focus on us; we want you to be there in five years; our focus is not on market growth but on whether you will be there for us in five years when we need the consistency. Comment – Manny DiFilippo – Canada & US seamless; we funnel our business through Urs; we have trust and leverage; we get what we need; it just happens, whether US or Canada. Comment – Kevin McCracken (Zurich) – Our underwriters know if it is a relationship account and provide special treatment; it's working, good feedback. Question – Heidrun Toben – How much clout does the relationship leader have? Does it break down silos? Kerner – Broadly; there is an underwriting chain of command, but the relationship leader is influential, especially in Whole Account View; relationship leaders have underwriting expertise but do not have authority; free to come to Paul Horgan anytime. Comment – JP Fowler (Zurich) – Mario and Mike have specific expectations about RLs: Senior Zurich executive Living the brand High credibility Ability to escalate Jason Schupp, Head of Regulatory Affairs, Zurich North America – U.S. regulatory trends Traditional insurance model for catastrophes: o Funds to respond exist before catastrophe o Private markets compete to establish risk and price o Insurance pricing sends clear message to buyers about their risk o Buyers incented to take steps to mitigate risk. Emerging government debt-based catastrophe model: o Funds borrowed to respond after CAT o Borrowed funds paid back in part with policyholder assessments o Liquidity to pay for event immediately from pre-event debt o Risk-price signals distorted o Cost of risk externalized from risk takers o Cost of risk shifted forward in time Debt-based programs have exploded – Texas, Mississippi, North Carolina. Zurich opposes post-event, debt-based financing. Zurich favors improving existing facilities; impressing upon customers the real cost of risk. Encourage state facilities to purchase reinsurance. Zurich actively works with customers to help them reduce exposures. CAT modeling will continue to take larger role. Suggested that Zurich connect more closely with customers in addressing issues and challenges that affect all of us. Engage both Zurich and customer voices in dialogues with regulators and legislators over issues that affect the practice of risk management. Consider developing a section of the Virtual Concierge dedicated to regulatory issues. Greg Maguire, Head of Customer & Distribution Management, GCiNA – NA Customer Satisfaction & Loyalty Survey Conducted a pilot Customer Satisfaction & Loyalty Survey polling 105 of 400 North America Relationship Customers, along with 80 Market Customers. Thanks to the 14 RMC customers who participated; your group was well represented. Survey conducted by professional research firm – TNS. Process undertaken to gain understanding across all business divisions about how customers see us, where we rate in their estimation and what we can do to improve areas where improvement is needed. Currently, research firm has no insurance industry benchmarks; used North American Corporate Banking which has similar characteristics; business-to-business, etc. Scale of 1-5, with 1 = poor; 5 = excellent. Four overarching questions: o How would you rate overall performance of Zurich? o Would you recommend Zurich to a colleague or another company? o Would you repurchase coverage from Zurich? o Does Zurich give your business advantages that you could not get from one of our competitors? QUESTION 1: How would you rate overall performance of Zurich? o TNS survey result: Zurich 4.1 versus benchmark 3.8. QUESTION 2: Would you recommend Zurich to a colleague or another company? o TNS survey result: Zurich 4.5 versus benchmark 3.9. QUESTION 3: Would you repurchase coverage from Zurich? o TNS survey result: Zurich 4.5 versus benchmark 4.1. QUESTION 4: Does Zurich give your business advantages that you could not get from one of our competitors? o TNS survey result: Zurich 3.5 versus benchmark 3.3. Some additional questions were segmented into a number of attributes: o "Overall experience" (28 distinct attributes) – Z Index of 90. o "Claims experience" (15 attributes) – Z Index of 89. o "Transaction experience" (11 attributes) – Z Index of 90. Zurich's overall index from all four questions was 90, which places us in the Top 10 percent of the High Retention category. Survey is a good starting point on Zurich's journey to address areas that are of importance to our Customers, and that which require us to improve our performance. Goal is to enhance the relevance of our products and services and the quality of our relationships. Sherif Zakhary, Head of Corporate Life & Pensions, Zurich Global Life Corporate Life & Pensions brings together a wide range of corporate professionals from Zurich businesses across the globe. Our team can work across international boundaries to create and coordinate innovative employee benefit solutions that deliver valuable efficiencies Committed to the employee benefits market and are investing to be a global leader We believe in long-term relationships and an in-depth understanding of your business International presence and network delivers seamless integration across borders Our products and services include: o Pensions and saving o Life and disability o International solutions, i.e. international retirement and group life benefits for expatriates and highly mobile workforces o Accident & health Developing approaches that will allow us to assist a growing number of customers in using their captives in the delivery of employee benefits Many customer advantages to using captives Zurich is already a strong player in the captive area Combined with Global Life capabilities, a natural leader Will come to market with a top-level product that will deliver on the Zurich brand and name. We don't have the structure built yet; lots of different components. Want you (RMC members) to know what is coming down the pike and ask for your assistance. Comment – "The problem we run into is that the Benefits area sees Risk Management as the competition and they kick our recommendations to the side." Comment – "Many companies view benefits as a function of employment, not risk management; idea of self-insuring a long-term disability case is alien to them." Comment – "Sometimes dealing with a union makes it more difficult; Benefits is the area in front of the union, not risk management; they have to be there or the unions will tell you where to go." Daniel Hofmann, Group Chief Economist, Zurich Financial Services – Stepping back from the abyss We are indeed stepping back from the abyss; things are in much better shape. Task now is risk assessment going forward. Three factors could upset the recovery now underway: Number One – Final demand may stay depressed o Unemployment could rise over 11 percent; much uncertainty for American households, which have seen a dramatic decline in net worth. o Savings up, consumption down. o Capacity remains at historic lows. o Could be that production will not be sustained into 2010, resulting in a "Wshaped: recovery. Number Two – A "credit-less" recovery o Between 2007 and 2012, banks may see 4.1 trillion in write-downs. o Initial estimate for subprime losses a year ago was 150 billion; now over that by factor of 10. o Future credit growth likely to be constrained, which will affect growth. Number Three – Reversal of global trade o Much of the recovery in Europe and Asia depends on exports. o The world not likely to see a major uptick in exports; not at levels to support growth. o Initial estimate for subprime losses a year ago was 150 billion; now over that by factor of 10. o Future credit growth likely to be constrained, which will affect growth. Taking all of these things together indicates to me that we should be very cautious and be prepared for a potential setback in 2010. Concerns growing over possible inflation. Increases in government debt to stabilize the system and jumpstart the economy. This will drive up interest rates, which tends to erode the debt, something that governments often do to reduce debt – and easy out. So, no Great Depression 2 in the wings, but stock market will take some time to recover. JP Fowler, EVP, Customer Relationship Management, GCiNA – Economic pressures faced by risk managers today Zurich's consistent challenge is to be relevant. Talk to us about the economic pressures you are facing, challenges in how you buy insurance and also risk management dynamics. Has it resulted in reduced headcounts and resources? We are trying to understand your business to be more relevant. To deliver when it matters. Risk Manager comments re: economic pressures "I've had to buy price more than ever before." "Our Insurance buying strategy has not changed; maintain our level of insurance and keep the costs down." "Hard for senior managers to see prices of everything else declining; why aren't insurance costs?" "My budget has been cut, my staff has been cut. Capital for ERM is not there. Quite bluntly we have been treading water. Not able to make what we think are continuing ERM and robust programs that we would like to maintain." "Operations people all about cost containment. Binding premium does not add to the top line. Cut costs to invest in new product lines. Don't recognize the risk versus reward of risk management expenses." "We have to convince our operations people what needs to be done." "Insurance is more relevant due to the access to capital issue these days. It's all about liquidity now. More aware of the impact a large loss can have." "Premium payouts don't bring you revenue. Every expense line being reviewed." "Risk Management trying to be easier to work with. Reaching out to project managers." "A lot of people assume there is enterprise risk management and traditional risk management and never the twain shall meet. That's really missing a great opportunity. If you want to differentiate yourself, you have to differentiate your offering." "We've gotten away from enterprise risk management. Enterprise sounds too lofty. What can Zurich do? Are you ready to commit resources? How do you get paid for that? By the hour? By the project? That's what you have to start thinking about. If you really want to help your clients advance risk management, maybe you build it into your fee. Another thing we did was we started with pilots to show the board that this works." "There is no metric for $100,000 sprinklers. There is no way to calculate the return on that capital investment." Lisa Jablonski, Chief Administrative Officer, GCiNA – Policy delivery commitments Previous RMC feedback included request for policies within 30 days of the effective date. The focus of a recent RIMS convention event was on timely policy delivery. The State of New York issued a circular requiring all insurers to mail policies to the broker (or customer if direct) within 30 days of the effective date. NY requirement effective next month. Impairments to timely delivery in the past: o Manuscript wording – scripted and approved by all parties o Underlying primary policies not received timely – required to issue excess policies o Program option is not decided at binding o Exposure and other information required is not provided at binding We will continue to follow the developments related to NY’s contract certainty requirement. We are interested in any communications you might receive on this topic from your brokers. Please let us know if you would like to receive more information about this topic. Chris Barnes, Chief Claims Officer, Global Corporate – Claims trends & developments Property losses – Wind o Traditional approach to property conservation has been to prevent fire. o o Recently, windstorm losses have greatly outpaced fire. Following Katrina (2005), Zurich launched Alternative Dispute Resolution program. o Zurich has also introduced a program for pre-event contact – Zurich Catastrophe Action Team (ZCAT). o Zurich CAT team response earned Texas honors. Combustible dust trends o Less frequent but high severity. o Zurich working with customer on housekeeping issues and risk inspections. Imported product exposures o Liability risk of products you import and market in the US. o Zurich developing effective "imported products" strategy. Fraud o Poor economy fostering fraud, i.e. staged accidents, slips and falls, premises liability. o Zurich Special Investigative Team helped postal inspectors to thwart phony insurance claims. o Customer training on slips, trips and falls and preventing fraudulent claims. Joe Tocco, EVP, Head of Property, GCiNA – Supply Chain Insurance Zurich pioneering a new supply chain insurance product to help you identify risks and exposures associated with key supplies/suppliers/ management controls. Conduct assessment through a series of interviews and workshops. Evaluate scenario-based (EML/PML) financial impact of disruption. Time required for assessment of this type will depend on information available, number of suppliers, complexity and commitment. Very positive customer reaction: o Six customers in risk assessment and promising discussions with around 100 customers in total. SCI responds to a problem they face, particularly in current economy. Zurich, as a member of the Supply Chain Risk Leadership Council, is working to create the ISO standard on best practice in supply chain risk management, including risk assessment and business continuity concerns. Plan to launch product in North America by year end. Paul Horgan, Chief Underwriting Officer, GCiNA – International Strategy & Global Network Zurich's Global Network and Multinational Insurance Proposition (MIP) compliance protocol are the keys to our international strategy and value delivery. Zurich’s Global Network is represented in 190 countries. Each country depends on Zurich MIP for the design of comprehensive and compliant insurance programs. Multinational Insurance Application (MIA) contains the most up-to-date, critical Regulatory information for over 200 countries. o Current International Premium Tax data ensure local tax transparency requirements are met. o Detailed information outlining compulsory coverages and limits in each country. Claims data captured through Zurich’s International Program System (IPS). IPS supports premium payment management. Dedicated staff of experts manages multinational program administration. Our goal is to significantly grow this segment of our portfolio. General RMC Member feedback Business issues Most of the results of the TRi*M survey regarding the Zurich customer experience resonated with the RMC audience. Speed of decision-making on underwriting and claims remains an issue. The proprietary nature of silos, especially for specialty coverages, remains a concern. Members questioned whether there was full alignment within all parts of our organization in support of the Relationship Management model. Customers want to understand better how we are pricing their risks; some still do not feel there is enough transparency. We need to develop renewal strategies well in advance of the renewal date and communicate early and frequently. We need to do a better job of providing relevant content in the sales / renewal process to better anticipate customer needs. Members indicated that we need to be more proactive in delivering risk insights. They define the term broadly (one example was from a customer who wants us to bring in our EPLI expert to talk about best practices on corporate processes and procedures). Relationship Management Customers believe that we have an industry-leading Relationship Management program, which differentiates Zurich from competitors. Risk managers would like more clarity regarding how the Relationship Leader engages the rest of the Zurich team to develop the individual customer strategy. Some customers would like to develop a more complete understanding of the role of the Relationship Leader within the organization and how they execute the strategy, i.e. more transparency of the Relationship Leader's role. Further, some risk managers would like to maintain more frequent dialogues with their Relationship Leaders between renewal cycles. Risk managers would like to get more information and knowledge regarding the Zurich Customer Relationship Model, including Customer Understanding Workshops, Strategy Development, stewardship, etc). Risk managers would like to know more about Zurich's people and talent management strategy, including how we recruit, train and retain. Our customers believe they can help us with our marketing strategy by helping Zurich improve its offerings and better differentiate ourselves in the marketplace. Action items: Valerie Butt and Mike Golden will address business process issues raised by RMC members regarding broker-company relationships, placement strategies, broker remuneration and related matters and report back to the full Council during its next inperson session. Mike Kerner will collaborate with Council members to develop an agenda subcommittee prior to the next meeting. We will continue the process of validating the findings of the Customer Satisfaction Survey; Greg Maguire will continue to reach out to RMC members to discuss/validate findings. Give members more opportunity for input on future meeting topics. Conduct interim teleconferences to maintain robust dialogue on issues between inperson meetings. We will develop a Zurich Virtual Concierge section for regulatory issues and reforms and engage risk managers that want to participate. Share concrete examples of risk insights during the next RMC meeting. Vet the agendas of future RMC meetings with members in advance. Supplement twice yearly RMC in-person meetings with conference calls, including calls to gather agenda suggestions for upcoming meetings. Provide members with advance pre-reading material. Do deeper dives on some issues, such as broker relationships, regulatory issues, etc. Provide more information on a smaller number of topics. Try to schedule Daniel Hofmann to speak in person at the next off-site meeting. Allow risk managers to present their own case studies. Perhaps do more frequent Webcasts on topics such as economics, etc. Devote more time to a subcommittee process, i.e. breakout sessions. For next RMC, we agreed to explain the Relationship Leader process, tools, performance metrics, interaction with brokers, etc. We will make details about our Customer Relationship Management (CRM) process available through the Zurich Virtual Concierge so that all customers will better understand their roles in the process.