ASEAN ARCHITECT
SURVEY ON PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE (Based On Information Received Up to April 2013 and presented at the AAC 16 Meeting.
1. ABOUT MEMBER STATE
MEMBER STATE
NAME OF PRA
PRA WEBSITE
ADDRESS
PRA Email address
PRA Address
Postal Address
Malaysia
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Indonesia
Board of Architects Malaysia
Professional Regulation
Commission (PRC)
Board of Architects
Singapore
Architect Council of
Thailand
Lembaga Pengembangan
Jasa Konstruksi (LPJK) /
Construction Services
Development Board (CSDB)
http://www.lam.gov.my
www.prc.gov.ph
www.boa.gov.sg
info@lam.gov.my
prc.iad@gmail.com;
prciad@yahoo.com;
lrdlouis@yahoo.com
boarch@singnet.com.sg
17th Floor, Block F, JKR
Headquarters
Jalan Sultan Salahuddin
50582 Kuala Lumpur
1. Dato’ Sri Ar. Haji Esa
Mohamed
2. Datuk Ar. Prof. Amer
Hamzah Mohd Yunus
3. Ar. Tan Pei Ing
4. Ar. Zuraina Leily
Awalludin
5. Ar. Saifudin Ahmad
6. Ar Boon Che Wee
7. Ar. Mohammad Hafiz
Hashim
8. Ar. Assoc. Prof.
Mustapha Mod Salleh
9. Ar. Saari Omar
10.Ar.Yong Razidah Rashid
MONITORING
COMMITTEE
P. Paredes St. Cor. N.Reyes
St. Sampaloc, Manila,
Philippines 1008
P.O.Box 2038 Manila
ASEAN Monitoring Committee
on Architectural Services for
the Philippines (AMCASP)
1. Chairman:
Professional Regulation
Commission, (PRC)
Commission Proper
Representative
www.act.or.th
office@act.or.th
12 RAMA 9 Rd, (soi 36)
Huamark Bangkapi,
Bangkok
Thailand 10240
Balai Krida 2nd floor
Jl. Iskandarsyah Raya no. 35
Kebayoran Baru
Jakarta 12160 - Indonesia
1. Ms. Rita Soh
2. Mr. Ng Lye Hock, Larry
3. Mr. Theodore Chan
4. Mrs. Koh-Lim Wen Gin
5. Ms. Wo Mei Lan
6. Mr. Tan Shao Yen
7. Mr. Khoo Peng Beng
8. Mr. Chan Sui Him
1.Dr.Pongsak
Vadhanasindhu
2.Mr. Nitis Sthapitanonda
3.Mr.Sathirut Tandanand
4.Mr.Nitisak
Chobdomrongtham
5.Dr.Chalay Kunawong
Indonesia Monitoring
Committee on Architectural
Services:
1. Mr. Endy Subijono
2. Dr. Bambang
Soemardiono
3. Dr. Andreas Suhono
4. Mr. Tateng Kurniahadi
Djajasudarma
5. Mr. Aca Ditamihardja
6. Ms. Ati Nurzamiati
2. Member:
Professional Regulatory
Board of Architecture
(PRBoA) Representative
Address:
Pusat Pembinaan
Kompetensi dan Pelatihan
Konstruksi
Jl. Sapta Taruna Raya
Kompleks P.U. Pasar Jumat
Jakarta 12310 Indonesia
Tel: +62 21 765 6532
Fax: +62 21 751 1847
Email: secretariat@imc.or.id
Website:
http://www.imc.or.id/architect
Malaysian Institute of
Architects [PAM]
United Architects of the
Philippines (UAP)
Singapore Institute of
Architects [SIA]
The Association of
Siamese Architect s
Under Royal Patronage
http://www.pam.org.my
5/F UAP Headquarters
53 Sct. Rallos St.,
Bgy. Laging Handa
Diliman, Quezon City,
Philippines
79B Neil Road
Singapore 088904
www.sia.org.sg
The Association of
Siamese Architects Under
Royal Patronage
248/1 Soi Soonvijai 4 (soi
17), Rama IX Road,
Pertubuhan Akitek Malaysia,
Wisma Bandar, Level 11,
No.18, Jalan Tuanku Abdul
Myanmar
Ministry of Construction
Ministry of Construction
moc.gov.vn
www.ministryofconstruction.gov.mm
www.ministryofconstruction.org
Bxd-vp@hn.vnn.vn
5. Member :
United Architects of the
Philippines (UAP)
Representative
PROFESSIONAL
INSTITUTE
Postal Address
Website Address
Cambodia
Brunei
Darussalam
myanmar.aac@gmail.com
lpjkn@lpjk.net
5 Maxwell Road
#01-03 Tower Block
MND Complex
Singapore 069110
4. Member:
Commission on Higher
Education (CHED)
Representative
NAME OF
PROFESSIONAL
INSTITUTE
Lao PDR
Moc.gov.vn
3. Member :
Professional Regulatory
Board of Architecture
(PRBoA) Representative
Names of
Members in MC
www.lpjk.net
Viet Nam
Ikatan Arsitek Indonesia (IAI)
(Indonesian Institute of
Architects)
Ikatan Arsitek Indonesia (IAI)
Jakarta Design Center Lt. 7
Jl. Jend. Gatot Subroto Kav.
53
Jakarta 10260 - Indonesia
Ministry of Construction
37 Le Dai Hanh str.
Hanoi, Viet Nam
PROFESSIONAL REGUATORY
AUTHORITY
(ARCHITECTURE), MYANMAR
Ministry of Construction,
Office No. (40), Nay Pyi Taw,
Myanmar
Vietnam Monitoring
Committee for
implement of ASEAN
MRA on Architectural
Services
1. VUONG ANH
DUNG
Chairperson of
MC-MOC
2. NGUYEN VAT TAT
Vice-Chairperson of
MC – Association
of Vietnam
Architects
3. LE TRONG BINH
Member –
Association of
Vietnam
Architects
4. NGUYEN TO
LANG Member –
Hanoi Architectural
University
5. LE HONG KE
Member –
Association of
Vietnam Urban
Planners
6. NGUYEN THI HA
ANH Member –
Secretary, MOC
7. PHAM THUY HIEN
Member – Vietnam
Institute of Arch.
And Urban
Planning
Monitoring Committee
(Architecture) Myanmar
Hanoi Architecture
University
Association of Myanmar Architect s
Hanoi Architecture
University
Km 10, Nguyen Trai
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
U Win Zaw – Chairman of
MC
Daw Htoo Htoo Ngwe
Dr. Su Su
U Aung Naing Chit
Daw Tin Tin Kyi
U Zaw Zaw Oo
U Than Tin Aung
U Maung Thaw
U Sun Oo
Daw Aye Aye Myint
U Kyaw Min Htay
U Aung Myint Myat
Daw Hlaing Maw Oo –
Secretary
Daw Moe Moe Lwin –
Additional Secretary
No. 228-234, 4th Floor, Department
of Human Settlements and Housing
Development, Bogyoke Aung San
Road, Botahtaung Township,
Yangon, Myanmar
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Rahman, 50100, Kuala
Lumpur
http://www.united-architects.org
Bangkapi, Huay Kwang,
Bangkok 10310
THAILAND
www.iai.or.id
Road, Tranh Xuan
District, Hanoi, Vietnam
Hau.edu.vn
amarchitects2001@gmail.com
www.myanmararchitects.org
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2. NUMBER OF ARCHITECTS
MEMBER
STATE
Item
1
2
Type of
Membership
Professional
Architect
[registered]
Graduate Architect
(Associated
Architect)
Malaysia
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Indonesia
As at June 2013
As at Dec 2012
As at 2013
As at 2012
As at Dec 2012
1,844
all practicing
~30,000 registered
9,645 registered &
licensed
1227 (practicing cert)
486 (no practicing cert)
~2,600
2,679
(practicing cert.)
3150
~16,000
Approximately 14,000
(members of IAI, not
included those are not
member)
N/A
1,732
NA
NA
Viet Nam
Loa PRD
Cambodia
Myanmar
As at May 2013
413
3
ASEAN Architect
31
39
33
none
4
APEC Architect
16
12
-
none
-
-
Interior Designers 508
5.
Brunei Darussalam
not registered
Others
Registered
Building
Draughtsmen - 174
3. TYPE OF PRACTICE
MEMBER
STATE
Item
Type of Practice
Malaysia
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Indonesia
Viet Nam
No. of practice
No of practice
No of practice
No of practice
No of practice
n.a
1,078
No data
402
245 company
NA
n.a
about 70-100
No data
57
NA
NA
n.a
registered at AMA (33
design firms)
Loa PRD
Cambodia
Myanmar
1
Sole proprietorship
2
Partnership
104
3
Body Corporate
(Architectural)
229
No data
116
NA
NA
n.a
not yet
4
Body Corporate (Multidisciplinary)
38
No data
98
NA
NA
n.a
not yet
Brunei Darussalam
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4. ARCHITECTURE EDUCATION
MEMBER STATE
NUMBER OF
SCHOOLS OF
ARCHITECTURE
LIST OF
SCHOOL/PROGRAMME
OF ARCHITECTURE
RECOGNISED BY PRA
Malaysia
accredited
schools
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Indonesia
Viet Nam
149 (2010)
08
Loa PRD
Cambodia
Myanmar
Brunei Darussalam
6 fully accredited
2 part 1
71 – list to be attached
later
2
20 schools
6
24 non-accredited
1. Universiti Teknologi Malaysia
(UTM)
a) Bachelor of Architecture
2. Universiti Teknologi MARA
(UiTM)
a) Bachelor of Science
(Architecture)
b) Master of Achitecture
(Hons.)
3. Universiti Sains Malaysia
(USM)
a) Bachelor of Housing,
Building &
Planning
b) Bachelor of Architecture
4. Universiti Malaya (UM)
a) Bachelor of Science
(Architecture)
b)Bachelor of Architecture
5. Universiti Islam
Antarabangsa (UIA)
a) Bachelor of Science
(Architecture)
b) Bachelor of Architecture
6. Universiti Putra Malaysia
a) Bachelor of Design
(Architecture)
b) Bachelor of Architecture
7. Taylor’s University
a.) Bachelor of Science in
Architecture (Part 1)
8. UCSI
a) Bachelor of Architectural
Technology (Part 1)
1. National University of
Singapore (NUS)
Master of Architecture
1.Bachelor of Science in
Architecture
2. Singapore University of
Technology and Design
(SUTD)
Master of Architecture
715 as at 2008/2009 – Part 1
AVERAGE NUMBER OF
STUDENTS / YEAR
1.Chulalongkorn
University
2. King Mongut’s Institute
of Technology
Ladkrabang
3. Thammasat University
4. Silapakorn University
5. Khon Kaen University
6. Kasetsart University
7. Rangsit University
8. King Mongkut’s
University of
Technology Thonburi
9. Kasem Bundit
University
10. Sripatum University
11. Rajamangala
University of
Technology
Thanyaburi
12. Rajamangala
University of
Technology Isan
13. Naresuan University
14. Rajamangala
University of
Techonology Lanna
15. Mahasarakham
University
16. Vongchavalitkul
University
17. Chiang Mai
University
18. Assumption
University
19. Rajamangala
University of
Technology Tawan –
ok (Uthenthawai
Campus)
20. Phranakhon
Rajabhat University
See attached list
1. Hanoi Architecture
University
2. Architecture
University of HCM
City
3. Hanoi Construction
University
1.
Yangon
Technological
University
2.
Mandalay
Technological
University
3.
West Yangon
Technological
University
4.
Technological
University
(Mandalay)
5.
Technological
University
(Hmawbi)
6.
Technological
University
(Thanlyin)
4. Dong Do University
5. Da Nang University
6. Hue University
7. Nguyen Trai
University
8. Chu Van An
University
Data to be given later
150
Approximately 1,000
/year
8,858 (as at 2009/2010)
Data to be given later
100
Approximately 1,000
/years
5,102 (as at 2009/2010)
1.500
Approximately 450 / year
? as at 2008/2009 – Part 2
AVERAGE NUMBER OF
GRADUATES PER
YEAR
COLLATERAL
EDUCATIONAL
ORGANISATIONS
BODY/BODIES THAT
ESTABLISH
THE EDUCATION
? as at 2008/2009 (for Part 1)
1.400
Approximately 450 / year
172 as at 2008/2009 (for Part
2)
COHAS (Council of Head of
Architectural Schools) Malaysia
Board of Architect Malaysia/
Council of Accreditation &
Architectural Education
Malaysia (CAAEM)
Professional Regulatory
Authority,
APTARI (Asosiasi
Pendidikan Tinggi
Arsitektur Indonesia)
Indonesian Association
of School of
Architecture.
Commission on Higher
Education (CHED)
1. Ministry of Education
2. Board of Architects
Singapore
1. Ministry of Education
2. Architect Council of
Thailand
3. Higher Education
Ministry of Education &
Culture
Association of Myanmar
Architects
Ministry of Training and
Education
1.
Ministry of Science
and Technology
2.
Professional
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STANDARDS
DURATION OF
STUDIES
[recognized by PRA]
Commission


Varies from 5 to 6 years:


5 years for A Level
equivalent
6 years for O Level
equivalent
5 years
5 years (full-time, on
campus)
120 credit hours for Part 1
160 Modular credits (MCs)
BA(arch)
60 credit hours for Part 2
40 Modular Credits (MCs)
MArch
Total Credit Hours
1:15 for design studio (core
subject)
Subjects Groupings
Vary from _5_
to_6_years

5 years; until 1980
< 5 years; 1980 2009
4 years + 1 year
Professional
Education; 2009-now
Varies from 5 to 6 years:
Vary from 05 to 05
years


5 years previously
6 years from 2013
1:7 for Department of
Advanced Science and
Technology
1:15
1:8- 1:15
1:36 for Department of
Technical and Vocational
Education
Lecturer to Student Ratio
Minimum 3 registered
architects as full time academic
staff in the Architectural
Department
1. Design Studio
2. Technology and
environment
3. History and cultural
context
4. Communication
5. Management, Pratice and
Law
Regulatory
Authority
(Architecture)
1. Architectural & Urban
Design
2. Architectural Practice
3.Building Technology
4Contemporary Theories
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5. INTERNSHIP & PROFESSIONAL REGISTRATION
MEMBER STATE
NUMBER OF YEARS OF
INTERNSHIP
BODIES THAT DEFINE
AND / OR CONTROL
INTERNSHIP
PROFESSIONAL EXAM
PROFESSIONAL
REGISTRATION
Renewal
Malaysia
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Indonesia
Viet Nam
2 years
2 years, equivalent to
3840 hours
2 years
In the Processing
Min. 2 years
02
Board of Architects
Malaysia
Yes
Professional Regulatory
Board of Architecture
Board of Architects
Singapore
Yes
Yes
Every 3 years
Annually
Annually
Compliance with
mandatory for Continuing
Professional Development
(CPD) requirement – 10
CPD Points annually
Cambodia
Myanmar
Brunei Darussalam
2 years
In the Processing
Ikatan Arsitek Indonesia
(IAI)
(Indonesian Institute of
Architects)
Yes
every 5 years
ADDITIONAL
REQUIREMENTS TO
PRACTICE [if any]
Loa PRD
Certificate of Membership
to Professional
Organization (UAP)
Continuing Professional
Development (CPD) Points
Ministry of Construction
Association of Myanmar
Architects
In the Process to be
controlled by Board of
Architects, Myanmar
Yes
No
Every 3 years
Every 5 years
In the Processing
3 years
 No violation of
professional ethics
and code of conduct
 CPD – 35 points
annualy
No
Continuing Professional
Development (CPD)
Points
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6. THE PROFESSIONAL REGULATORY AUTHORITY
MEMBER STATE
Malaysia
Board of Architects
Malaysia
Philippines
Professional Regulation
Commission (PRC)
(Government)
Singapore
Board of Architects
Singapore
The PRA have The
Architect Act B.E.2543,
operates through ACT’s
Committee of 20
members
15 members
20 members
GOVERNING BODY
NUMBER OF MEMBERS
IN PRA
17 members
 Registration of
Architects, Graduate
Architects, Interior
Designers and Building
Draughtsmen;
 Registration of
architectural
consultancy practices;
 Regulation of their
conduct and ethics;
 Conducting
examinations for
admission to the
profession;
 Accreditation of
architectural
programmes;
 Development and
Promotion of the
profession;
 Representing the
architectural profession
in any matter at local
1 Chairman
2 Commissioners
The PRA (PRC) is a
statutory body under
the Republic Act No.
8981 (PRC
Modernization Act of
2000) which is
responsible for the
administration,
implementation and
enforcement of
regulatory policies on
the regulation and
licensing of various
professions and
occupations under its
jurisdiction.
and international levels.
FUNCTIONS OF PRA
MANNER OF
COMPENSATION
SOURCE OF
OPERATIONAL FUNDS
Self Funding
Annual registration fee,
the fees imposed under
Architect Act.
Thailand
Viet Nam
Loa PRD
Cambodia
Myanmar
Brunei Darussalam
In the process of
authorizing Board of
Architects as an authorized
agency of the Professional
Regulatory Authority (
Architecture ), the Ministry
of Construction
Lembaga Pengembangan
Jasa Konstruksi (LPJK) /
Construction Services
Development Board
(CSDB)
-
 to keep and maintain a
register of practitioners
and a register of
licenses
 to hold or arrange for
the holding of such
examinations as the
Board considers
necessary for the
purpose of enabling
persons to quality for
registration under this
Act
 to establish, maintain
and develop standards
of professional conduct
and ethics of the
architectural profession
 to promote learning
and education in
connection with
architecture, either
alone or in conjunction
with any other
professional body
 to hear and determine
disputes relating to
professional conduct or
ethics of registered
architects or arbitrator
to hear and determine
those disputes
 to appoint arbitrators
for the purpose of
hearing and
determining disputes
between registered
architects or licensed
corporations or
partnerships and other
persons
 to license corporations
or multidiscipline
partnership which
intend to supply
architectural services in
Singapore; and
 generally to do all such
acts, matters and
things as are
necessary to be carried
out under the provision
of this Act.
Honorarium
 to promote the
education, research
and practicing of the
architectural
profession
 to promote harmony
and conciliation
among its members
 to promote the welfare
of and to honor the
members
 to control the behavior
and operation of
persons practicing the
controlled
architectural
professional in
compliance with the
standards and
etiquette of the
architectural
profession
 to support ,advise,
disseminate and
service academic
subjects for the
people and other
organizations in
connect with
architectural science
and technology
 to provide
consultation or advise
for the government
relating to
architectural and
technological
problems and policies
 to act as a
representative of
persons practicing the
architectural
profession in Thailand
 to perform any other
activity as prescribed
in the ministerial
regulations
32 members (boards)
14 members (MC)
-





Registration of
Architects and
Engineers
Renew registration of
Architects and
Engineers
To assist
development and
promotion of
construction services
Registration of foreign
expertise in
construction services,
include monitoring &
evaluation

National Budget / Selffunding
Monthly honorarium
Grant from Ministry of
National Development,
registration fee, practicing
certificate renewal fees,
Registration of
graduate
architects,
architectural
technicians
Registration of
License
Architectsf, Sr.
License
Architects
-
National Budget
National Budget
Indonesia
Subsidy from Ministry of
Interior, member
registration fee, the fees
imposed under Architect
Registration and Reregistration fee, Other fees
imposed under
National Budget / Annual
Registration fees
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TENURE OF MEMBERS
2 years
Professional Regulation
Commission (PRC)
(Government)
licensing fees and other
fees imposed under the
Architects Act.
3 years
Act.
Government regulations
3 years
-
4 years
4 years
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7. THE LAW
MEMBER STATE
EXISTING LAW ON
ARCHITECTURE
Malaysia
 Achitects Act 1967
(Act 116)
 Architects Rules
1996,
 Guidelines as issued
to members
Philippines
Republic Act 9266
(Architecture Act of 2004)
Singapore
 The Architects Act 1991
 The Architects Rules
1991
 The Architects
(Professional Conduct
and Ethics) Rules
 Architects (Investigation
Committees)(Revocation
) Rules 2005
 Architects (Election of
Board members) 2005
 The Schedule (Code of
Professional Conduct
and Ethics) Part I
 The Schedule (Code of
Professional and Ethics)
Part II
 The Third Schedule
Thailand
ACT B.E.2543
Indonesia


Viet Nam
-
Undang-Undang Jasa
Konstruksi
(UU
18/1999)
Undang-Undang
Bangunan
Gedung
(UU 28/2002)
Loa PRD
Cambodia
Myanmar
Brunei Darussalam
Architect Council Law to
be approved
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8. THE LICENSURE EXAMINATIONS
MEMBER STATE
LICENSURE EXAMS
REQUIRED FOR
PRACTICE
TYPE OF EXAM AND
SUBJECTS GIVEN IN
EXAM
Malaysia
Yes
1. Log Book (min 104
weeks) & Case Study
Review
2. Oral Interview
Examination
3. Written Paper 1 & 2
1. Professional Legislation
and
Professional Bodies
2. Professional Architect’s
Role
in Society
3. Professional Architect’s
Practice
4. Building Legislations and
Regulations
5. Building Contract
Administration
NUMBER OF DAYS GIVEN
1.Oral Interview
Examination – 1 day (0.5
hrs/candidate)
2. Written Exams Paper 1 &
2 – 3 hrs each
Philippines
Yes
1.
2.
3.
Singapore
Yes
History, Planning,
Theory of Design,
Professional Practice –
multiple choice
Utilities, Structural
Conceptualization,
Building Materials and
Technology – multiple
choice
Architectural design –
previously drafting,
now multiple choice
2 days , Friday and Sunday
1 rest day in between
1. Case Study & Log Book
Review
2. Written Paper 1 – Law
& The Architect (Multiple
Choice Questions and
Structured Questions)
3. Written Paper 2 –
Professional Practice
(Multiple Choice
Questions and
Structured Questions)
4. Oral interview
Examination
Written Papers 12 – 1 day
(7hrs)
Oral Interview Examination
– 1 day (0.5hrs)
MANNER OF CHECKING
Administered and carried
out by the Examination
Panel.
NUMBER OF EXAMINEES
Approximately 200 persons
per year
AVERAGE PASSING
RATE
Approximately 30%
Answer sheets read by
optical mark reader- no
human intervention
~1800-2000, 2 x / yr (local)
~ 400- 500 / yr (Middle East)
Range from 30% to 51%
Administered and carried
out by the Examination
Panel
Approximately 70- 100 per
year
Approximately 50%
Thailand
Yes
(multiple choice, drafting,
interview)
Classified to 4 subjects for
Associated Licensed
Architect
1. Planning and Design
knowledge skills
2. Technology Knowledge
in each division
3. Knowledge on
professional architect
4. Communication skills
4 days
Multiple Choice : Checking
by Checker Machine
Drafting: Checking by The
Expert in each Subject
Interview: Consider by The
interviewer
(elected by The committee
for
Interview test )
Approximately 1,800
persons/year
60%
Indonesia
Yes
 Passing diploma of
professional ethics
and code of conduct
workshop held by IAI
 Written paper and
application forms
covering basic
competence
requirement for
Architects
 Invited for oral
interview as
considered necessary
by the Examination
Panel
Viet Nam
Loa PRD
Cambodia
Myanmar
Brunei Darussalam
Under Consideration
Membership
Qualification
Log book
Portfolio of works
done
Interview
Professional ehtics
and Code of Conduct
Myanmar National
Buidling Codes
Regional and
Municipality by-laws
??
 Open submission for
written paper and
application forms
(depends on
applicants – 4 times
pre-scheduled
assessments
annuallly)
 Oral interview: 1 day
Administered and carried
out by the Examination
Panel (Team of
Assessors, national
and/or provincial level).
Under Consideration
Approx. 80-100 per year
Under Consideration
60%
Note:
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Record of revision – updated on Thailand , Cambodia details as per email received on 7 March 2011(after AA7 Meeting)
Record of revision – updated on Indonesia as per email received on 23 February 2011 (after AA7 Meeting)
Record of revision – updated on Malaysia and Thailand as per email (before AAC 13 Meeting)
Record of revision – updated on Philippine and Indonesia as per email (before AAC 15 Meeting)
Record of revision – updated on Singapore as per email (before AAC 16 Meeting)
Record of revision – updated on Malaysia and Myanmar as per email (before AAC 17 Meeting)
AAC/SURVEY/JAN 2011