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LadyOfWisdom: shalom
BEHANU: hi
eliana batyah: shalom
ty
angel and lady
BEHANU: explain
the lingo again please isibel
Isibel: This is one more ladariko song
Isibel: like sephardic yiddish
Isibel: ladino is most common
Isibel: but each jewish community added the local language as well
Isibel: this song is from Turkey
Taz_Aharon: are
Isibel: Its
there turkeys in turkey
a mixture of hebrew, arabic, spanish and in this case, Turkish
eliana batyah: shalom
Taz_Aharon: hi
bruce
SHeMABruce: hi
Isibel: This
bruce
one is from morocco
speel
Isibel: i cant
Isibel: LOL
Taz_Aharon: i
think thats right
Isibel: Sephardic
BEHANU: Shalom and
welcome to our Derech Hashem class on the fundamental
principles that underlie the Torah as brought down through the Jewish people from
Mt. Sinai. Details are at www.yashanet.com/derech
Isibel: music
BEHANU: I like moroccan music and FOOD
Taz_Aharon: do
they have morrocan pizza?
BEHANU: Isibel
makes this killer moroccan fish dish
I HATE fish
BEHANU: And
Taz_Aharon: hi
marci
Marciyah: hi\
sherryr: is
morrocan spicy?
Isibel: Not
hot
eliana batyah: shalom
Isibel: its
marci
a complex blend of spices but not hot
BlkPraiseAngel: I
can't take that room any longer.
BlkPraiseAngel: Shalom to all
Isibel: I
LOVE sephardi cooking
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
Isibel
Isibel: esp morrocan and yemenite
BEHANU: not spicy hot just lots of great
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
sherryr: yes
BEHANU: like
spices
LadyofWisdom
the name Morrocan makes me think of spice
yemeni or iranian cuisine
eliana batyah: i
love spices
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom Behanu
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom Sherryr
BlkPraiseAngel: did I lose voice?
BEHANU: ONE
MORE TUNE!
BEHANU: Stay
tuned .....
BlkPraiseAngel: ok
BEHANU: invite
BEHANU: we
your pals
will start after 1 more song
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
Taz
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
Yehoshua
Taz_Aharon: shalom
sherryr: Shalom
BPA
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
David
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom Sparkle
BEHANU: Sephardic
Moroccan tune coming
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
Bruce
BEHANU: here
be
BEHANU: tzfat
would like this
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
BlkPraiseAngel: shalon
Isibel: One
MarciYah
Tstudy
more song while I get ready
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
Adam
tstudy84: Shalom
A D A M_3: shalom
BEHANU: we will start after this
Alert: An admin left the room: David_42
A D A M_3: isibel......
sherryr: Adam,
please sing slower......im eating
Bat Chesed: Thanks
pain again.
sherryr: Yes,
\
I went to see Book of Eli, very interesting
A D A M_3: especially
A D A M_3:
song
the last part?
Adam. I was just on my way, but paltalk is being a
lolol
BEHANU: we will start after this song
A D A M_3: take what you learn at the
iguana_8: shalom
BEHANU: starting
last and go back over the movie....... interesting
after this song
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
4alltruth
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom Iguana
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom Zipporah
zipporahreshel_com: shalom
Bat Chesed: errrrr!
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
LevEchad
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom Bat Chesed
BEHANU: Everyone be ready - rumor as it teacher is gonna ask questions
zipporahreshel_com: shalom to all my friends... too many to list..
Bat Chesed: lol
behanu
BlkPraiseAngel: lol
A D A M_3: <<
dont know how to cook
eliana batyah: shalom
zipporah
Bat Chesed: good
evening all. Not sure how long pal will let me stay
Bat Chesed: 1
zipporahreshel_com: shlm
achoti
BEHANU: 1
eliana batyah: 1
SHeMABruce: 1
Isibel:
sparkle_zzirf: good evening - yes
BEHANU: volume ok everyone?
I can hear you
eliana batyah: 1
zipporahreshel_com: fine
tstudy84: volume great
Alert: An admin joined the room: David_42
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
Toni Bella
BlkPraiseAngel: wb David
David_42: shalom
BEHANU: We cal also
post an email address for people to send questions during the
week - we can answer in the next week's room etc ??
Toni Bella: shalom
after the class to derech@yashanet.com.
David_42: using a bluetooth headset with my laptop
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom
Ms Janice
janice64: shalom
janice64: ((blkpraiseangel))
sparkle_zzirf: glad
Strider_100: hey
to hear that
guys ... nice to see such a good crowd
eliana batyah: hey
strider
strider
BlkPraiseAngel: shalom Strider
BlkPraiseAngel: wb iguana
janice64: hey
SHeMABruce: To
be honest, i don't think much understanding is possible of
the subjects. I feel that at best it should incite enough interest in
people to prompt them to undertake their own study so they can arrive
at a true understanding of the IMMENSE value of the subjects.
Isibel: go
ahead
SHeMABruce: meaning...not
Alert: An admin left the room: Isibel
possible in such a limited setting
eliana batyah: 1
janice64: 1
SHeMABruce: true
SHeMABruce: oh
BEHANU: i
wow. ADAM is a definite Tanya prospect.
am of persuasion that everyone needs a teacher for kabbalah,tanya etc
SHeMABruce: haha
Isibel: I
Isibel:
was listening
Taz_Aharon: i
Isibel: I
think we should have a discussion night, topic being the soul
would like to I have some good sources
Isibel: Thank
yu
all have a path true, but we all need a guide
BEHANU: We
Isibel: you
sparkle_zzirf: yes
BEHANU: ive
in sync
had a number of those paradigm shifts over the years
BEHANU: If I had a pair of dimes for every paradigm
A D A M_3: yes ,,,,,kicking down the doors and open our
BEHANU: It is a combo of learning in a
BEHANU: Same as with other subject.
inner eyesw
class and independent research.
BEHANU: s
sparkle_zzirf: but
we are here
- amen
BEHANU: spearkle
Taz_Aharon: good
thing i got all these books
Taz_Aharon: lol
A D A M_3: if
A D A M_3: 1
you get a small point...... your have accomplished a lot
LevEchad: yep Taz, lol (me too)
BEHANU: We have a recommended
reading list at:
http://www.yashanet.com/reading.htm and free resource list at
http://www.yashanet.com/resource.htm
SHeMABruce: i
got that CD.
sparkle_zzirf: what's
BEHANU: She
it called again?
did NOT like them - I can attest
SHeMABruce: right
A D A M_3: the
BEHANU: a
woman had a V-8 moment
lightbulb went off ... i believe it was an energy efficient one too
SHeMABruce: As
a christian, I sometimes heard a sermon or read a book
that caused me to be awestruck. That rather infrequent feeling I felt
then occurs constantly now as I read and study this stuff. I wish more
people could understand how truly valuable the material is.
janice64: are
we reading tonight
richard 9: hello
SHeMABruce: Steinsaltz
is considered a true "sage" of our time.
BEHANU: Tonight
we are doing a little supplemental reading and discussion from
another text which is a commentary on the Tanya, another critical text.
richard 9: isebel how tall are you?
janice64: oh
ok behanu
richard 9: im
nin the wrong room
A D A M_3: richard.....
richard 9: sorry
this is a study
SHeMABruce: nefesh
BEHANU: "nefesh"
= soul in general or more specific meaning
yechida
BEHANU: nefesh, ruach, neshama, chaya,
BEHANU: from 'low' to 'higher' order
eliana batyah: ty
Bat Chesed: so
behanu the nefesh existed as Adom and hashem breathed
into it and it became a ruach, yes?
BEHANU: hold
that q for a moment - it is a good one
BEHANU: and ask the instructor
A D A M_3: is the nefesh absolute.... always true to its purpose?
Bat Chesed: he accept the mission to work to cause tikkun haolam for the whole world
Bat Chesed: accepted
A D A M_3: bat.....can you use med type print..... please
Bat Chesed: np Adam. The new build erased all my settings.
Bat Chesed: is
a darker colour better too Adam?
BEHANU: Adam - hold that Q as well - good one
A D A M_3: your color was great......and different
Bat Chesed: ok, I switched back to it
A D A M_3: k
janice64: i
you beat me to it
thought G-d breathed the neshamah and adam became a
nepesh
Bat Chesed: welcome
janice64: hey
stan
Stan
BEHANU: BAT
go ahead
Bat Chesed: Adam, you go first
BEHANU: ADAM ok
BEHANU: Gentlemen's Night at the bar
SHeMABruce: kelipah
Bat Chesed: Q:
soin essence the nefesh existed as Adom and hashem breathed into it
and it became a ruach, yes?
SHeMABruce: resha
Bat Chesed: their nefesh
A D A M_3: i can wait
is true to itself, their yetzer hara is not content to be that
SHeMABruce: i thought neshama
SHeMABruce: inner space
Taz_Aharon: the
was like a forceful exhale
ruach is like wind
is like the breathe down the neck
Taz_Aharon: neshama
SHeMABruce: ruach
is the breath moving through the pipe
is the breath as it exits the mouth
SHeMABruce: i think
SHeMABruce: from his "lungs"
SHeMABruce: neshama
Taz_Aharon: ruach
is the link
BEHANU: good way to say
SHeMABruce: the nefesh is
SHeMABruce: "at
rest"
it taz
the air in the glass
Taz_Aharon: glassblower
is on page 19
BEHANU: In
comparison, nefesh is associated with the physical world, the neshama
with the heavens and the ruach would be the 'ladder' connecting (i.e. Jacobs dream)
Taz_Aharon: neshama
BEHANU: See
is a closer intimacy
chart at http://www.yashanet.com/studies/judaism101/chart.htm
Taz_Aharon: with
hashem
Taz_Aharon: ruach is a lower intimacy
BEHANU: ruach
would be the 'crossover' point between a person's psychological and
spiritual 'selves'
BEHANU: (another
way to put it)
Taz_Aharon: ruach
is the wind blowing down from Gods breath
is the vessel
Taz_Aharon: neshama
janice64: is
anyone on the mic
BEHANU: yes
BEHANU: re enter
room
A D A M_3: good sound
SHeMABruce: no matter
how hard you try, you can't clean a white sheet while it is
immersed in mud. Our souls cannot be fully manifested in the mud of this world.
Bat Chesed: better
janice64: yeah
SHeMABruce: hi
janice
bat
Marciyah
Bat Chesed: which page now please Isibel
A D A M_3: bat......she is reading additional
Bat Chesed: thanks
Bat Chesed: yes thanks
material\
Adam
A D A M_3: its about time
BEHANU: at the moment we're
BEHANU: from
reading and discussion some supplemental material
Adin Steinsaltz commentary on the Tanya
A D A M_3: olive is just
Bat Chesed: hello olive
doncote: hey Stan o
doncote: been a bit
a late starter
man, be a bit
BEHANU: at
the moment we are reading and discussing some supllemental material
from Adin Steinsaltz commentary on the Tanya
olkee_1: ok shalom all
Bat Chesed: R. Shapiro says as Israel is the land bridge between Africa and Asia, so the
jewish people are the bridge between hashem and the fallen world.
janice64: shalom
olkee
BEHANU: Neat analogy Bat
SHeMABruce: imho, the exalting
of the "jew" in judaic literature is wrong. The focus
should be on the mission not the missionary.
olkee_1: is
stan here?
SHeMABruce: it
it.
BEHANU: I
keep studying the material in spite of the ultra-semitism, not because of
wouldnt 'exalt' anyone, but there is a distinction
SHeMABruce: I keep...
Bat Chesed: without the
people their would be no carrying on of the mission. The
difference in neshama is specifically for the purpose of fulfilling the mission
sparkle_zzirf: got it
janice64: well..if
anyone has built a relationship with G-d the jews have
SHeMABruce: i am as against ultra-semitism as i am anti-semitism.
Bat Chesed: the patriarchs and their stories are the archtype of all people
and from
Avraham we see the villains and the hereos
BEHANU: Even for those who believe in the NT, Paul says the Jew has an advantage due
to their relationship with G-d
sparkle_zzirf: but what defines a Jew?
SHeMABruce: but
its because of the advantages they had to aquire that relationship, not
because of who they are
tstudy84: I
dont see it as "ultra-semitism" but as safeguarding against outside
influence especially hellenism
BEHANU: Born of a Jew for one
Taz_Aharon: paul
also says, their all one in messiah
BEHANU: I disagree Bruce
sparkle_zzirf: no such thing
BEHANU: The
from birth.
as a spiritual Jew (not physical)?
Jew has an advantage and relationship separate from others in humanity
Taz_Aharon: whats
a spiritual jew?
A D A M_3: << closes eyes........so i can hear better
Bat Chesed: Me too Behanu. The jewish people were
chosen out for a purpose and the
torah is their story
SHeMABruce: that's
ok. I simply despise arrogance however it is presented. I can't
accept exalting one ethnicity over another.
janice64: without
sparkle_zzirf: A
BEHANU: Not
the jews we wouldn't have the covenants or the bible
jew at the level of the heart
exalting ... just clarifying
Taz_Aharon: behanu,
Taz_Aharon: so...
SHeMABruce: to
african, etc.
Hashem is a respecter of no persons
me "jew" is a purely spiritual thing. A jew can be japanese, chinese,
Bat Chesed: that's
not correct Taz. He obviously chose out people over others. He
allowed Yosef to go into bondage to prepare the way when he could have chosen any
of the brothers or any other person
Taz_Aharon: we
also see in Torah that a stranger could join the circimsition
its in scripture
Taz_Aharon: bat,
BEHANU: Anyhow, let's remember we're all 'in class' now
SHeMABruce: i agree taz. But that's a NT passage, and some
Bat Chesed: yes
Taz_Aharon: ah
here reject the NT.
... join the circumcision by conversion not by wishful thinking
Bat Chesed: Taz,
gotcha
it's in the NT
Taz_Aharon: there
SHeMABruce: and
wasnt a conversion to a religion in torah, bat
taz, that's actually one reason they reject the NT. Some don't like
equality being suggested.
Taz_Aharon: interesting
Bat Chesed: Taz,
yes there was although not in the fashion of today.
let's listen and keep that for later
Bat Chesed: however,
BEHANU: Lets
hold off on the 'who's a jew' thing for after class
Taz_Aharon: bat,
Taz_Aharon: ok
a jew in torah is one of blood, not religion
sparkle_zzirf: ok
Taz_Aharon: both
jew AND gentile have a nefesh
Taz_Aharon: freewill
Taz_Aharon: etc
Taz_Aharon:
janice64: i
would like to hear shemabruce's goal for the jewish people
SHeMABruce: same
as the goal for every human
SHeMABruce: simple
BEHANU: ok
janice64: ok
but lets hold on
behanu
A D A M_3: what
the heck is a neeanderthou?
luminous_spirit: lol ADAM
SHeMABruce: neanderthal
Taz_Aharon: lol
A D A M_3: oh like
tstudy84: lol
sherryr: lolol
my daughters boyfriend?
ADAM
BEHANU: Please
try to keep the Qs topic related
Isibel: LOL
BEHANU: Adam - the first
Isibel: www.classicsinai.com
BEHANU: not my fault ...
sherryr: lolol
is like an ape-man guy. Kinda like some of my neighbors.
Adam said that
Behanu
BEHANU: great
BEHANU: By?
site
BEHANU: Spiro?
BEHANU: Kellemen?
BEHANU: who is the lecturer isibel?
BEHANU: of the education audio
BEHANU: i
can find it
BEHANU: Motty BergerBEHANU: first audio on that
page
(answer when you feel best) but how do we know "Neanderthal" didn't
speak or contemplate hashem and the relationship with him?
troy_gs: i think the beasts are evil
troy_gs: what about a dog that attacks a person?
after the class to derech@yashanet.com
Bat Chesed: that's often instinct or illness troy
Bat Chesed: Q:
A D A M_3: bat...like
i asked......what the heck is a neanderthal........?
BEHANU: That dog is not making a 'moral' decision to bite you
Bat Chesed: Adam, for me it's man's best guest of what people
were like in one of the
last earths
BEHANU: he mayjust think you're a mailman
troy_gs: actually i think the animals have a mind and can discern between good and
evil at some level
sherryr: I
once heard an interesting theory that if man lived to 500-700
years, he would look like an neanderthal
janice64: neanderthal
had very big heads
troy_gs: i've read in the bible
A D A M_3: oh...... ok bat....
SHeMABruce: Adam,
thing
SHeMABruce: but
Bat Chesed: troy,
about evil beasts
if you believe i evolution, neanderthal was an early humanoid/ape
i reject evolution
yes animals have a mind, however they do not have an elevated level
of soul to discern evil and good
BEHANU: evolution and creationism can be another night's topic -- that could be
intersting
janice64: wow
sherry..interesting
janice64: neanderthal are believed to be prehuman
BEHANU: temp side bar ...
Bat Chesed: well, judaism does
teach that there were other earths before this one Adam
troy_gs: well Bat Chesed, i'm not so sure about that
Bat Chesed: ok troy, that's up to you. However the teaching
of the night is that animals
have a nefesh but do not have a neshama
A D A M_3:
BEHANU: the
best to be quiet and keep learning
question to always ask is 'why do i believe what i believe' (about any
topic)
Bat Chesed: Egypt
was the spiritual antithesis of Israel
Bat Chesed: and yet highly spiritual
Taz_Aharon: egypt is cursed
Bat Chesed: Adam,
Taz_Aharon: heh
it's conditioning
SHeMABruce: bedtime.
troy_gs: sorry
BEHANU: Highly
goodnight.
cultured scum
sherryr: Shalom
Bruce
Bat Chesed: Taz,
my point is that in the torah there is different archtypes for all of
creation and that includes Egypt which was HIGHLY spiritual but not connected to
hashem
A D A M_3: << been
luminous_spirit: lol
conditioned to bring in the news paper in the morning
Taz_Aharon: of course bat
Bat Chesed: that would be
a waste here Adam, the paper comes twice a week in the
afternoon
A D A M_3: dont
pervoke me woman....... im listening
BEHANU: lol
BEHANU: "woman"
Bat Chesed: resist the yetzer hara young jedi, resist .... lol
Bat Chesed: which is why each mitsvah a jewish person undertakes
is attributed to the
whole nation
A D A M_3: free will
Bat Chesed: leprosy of
the house is interesting
BEHANU: and clothing
BEHANU: Shalom and welcome
to our Derech Hashem class on the fundamental
principles that underlie the Torah as brought down through the Jewish people from
Mt. Sinai. Details are at www.yashanet.com/derech - Feel free to also email questions
after the class to derech@yashanet.com
A D A M_3: i think its time for me
Bat Chesed: lol Adam, go ahead
A D A M_3: im
to inneract with this bottle of wine..... just a glass....
looking for its spirit
Bat Chesed: it's
spirit will open your spirit
A D A M_3: ineresting.......
good idea
luminous_spirit: spirited drink always knocks my spirit clean out
Isibel: http://odeo.com/episodes/22541302-Education-vs-Conditioning
Bat Chesed: sends
mine to the hospital
LevEchad: thank
you so very much Isibel, love this class
A D A M_3: its spirit relaxs my spirit
A D A M_3: puts a smile on my face too
BEHANU: we
can keep discussion going a while ... only 10:30 est
LevEchad: lumi
haha
luminous_spirit: mine too ADAM .. REALLY relaxed zzzzzzzzzzz
Bat Chesed: and babel was a good example of how dangerous
Isibel: Thus
that power could be?
we have the shema
Isibel:
BEHANU: Torah
is heart medicine
Isibel: Yes
tstudy84: loved
the class Isibel
here...thanks so much, same time next week
Bat Chesed: take care Lev
LevEchad: phone
shalom all
luminous_spirit:
eliana batyah: shalom
sherryr: Shalom
luminous
luminous
BEHANU: can u
sparkle_zzirf: If
mention next weeks topic(s) a bit?
the soul cannot manifest in this world (you said before) then where is
the next world?
BEHANU: yay
Bat Chesed: sparkle, at this time
Bat Chesed: the neshama manifests in the olam haba, the world to come
sparkle_zzirf: where is the world to come?
Bat Chesed: my understanding is here
sparkle_zzirf: then the soul can manifest here
BEHANU: "the kingdom of G-d is amidst/within you"
BEHANU: manifest?
sparkle_zzirf: so why say it cannot manfiest here
A D A M_3: when you are HIS.......always look
sparkle_zzirf: where is the world to come?
with in.
Bat Chesed: but
not here at this time.
took these notes while Isibel was talking "the soul is not allowed to
manifest in this world - we have the spiritual organs like lungs in a womb, but will
not manifest until one is born into another world"
Bat Chesed: another world doesn't mean another planet; perhaps another epoch is
better for understanding. A reborn earth
sparkle_zzirf: I
A D A M_3: which level of
sparkle_zzirf: after death
the soul..... sparkle?
sparkle_zzirf: many say this world
sparkle_zzirf: the time it is to be revealed
A D A M_3: our
fallen state
Bat Chesed: sparkle
there is a concept taught by some sages in judaism that this is not
the first "incarnation" of this world - but the 6th
sparkle_zzirf: yes
A D A M_3: world
or age?
Bat Chesed: so my understand
sparkle_zzirf: spiritual world?
awlthroear: so
YehoshuaBA: 2
is that the olam haba is the 7th "world"
where does Yeshua fit here?
Bat Chesed: this
age, is the preparation for the messianic age which each jewish person
looks for and has been working toward
BEHANU: that depends on what you believe awlthroear
A D A M_3: awlth....... where do you
A D A M_3: ...that is your choice.
A D A M_3: in
want YESHUA to fit?
your own life
awlthroear: hmmmm
BEHANU: agreed
sparkle_zzirf: after the resurrection
Bat Chesed: sparkle, the last world
janice64: which
is the next world
is soon bat
sparkle_zzirf: bat?
BEHANU: You got the
'path' to walk down now and figure that out
next 150 years
things by level of soul
Bat Chesed: probably best to remember that neither the Ramchal nor other sages
quoted saw Y'shua as the messiah and certainly the last 2000 years have not be
considered the messianic age
sparkle_zzirf: next world could be our next highest level
sparkle_zzirf: even in this world
BEHANU: http://www.yashanet.com/studies/judaism101/chart.htm - see this for levels of soul
and more
Bat Chesed: and the torah shows us that women have a different connect to hashem
than men do. Men look outward; women focus more inwardly
Bat Chesed: janice yes, sometimes within the
sparkle_zzirf: different people mean different
A D A M_3: yet
a man can look inwardly
A D A M_3: if he chooses
A D A M_3: <<< made that
Bat Chesed: Adam,
choice
not in the same way exactly. We see in the stories of the matriarchs
that the female archtype is different from the male
Bat Chesed: just as israel is different from the 70 nations
A D A M_3: as i see it......looking within is
Bat Chesed: perhaps there is no marrying
looking within...
or giving in marriage in the olam haba
because mankind is again united as one being male and female together
Bat Chesed: Isibel, that actually leads into a question I was hoping you could address
....
Isibel: Ok
BEHANU: go for it
Bat Chesed: the concept of Teshuva miyireh,
Bat Chesed: teshuva because of fear of hashem
BEHANU: translate for all ...
BEHANU: ok
BEHANU: 'repentance'
A D A M_3: explain
fear
BEHANU: =teshuvah
Bat Chesed: yes,
BEHANU: fear is
sorry behanu
'awe'
BEHANU: at the higher level
Bat Chesed: Adam, it's a specific phrase of the sages so that's why I asking
A D A M_3: awe
is good.........
BEHANU: fear is scared at a lower level
Bat Chesed: Many times Israel made repentence
hashem might take
because of it's fear of the actions
BEHANU: it
goes: lower fear, lower love, higher love then higher fear (spiritual
evolution of a person)
A D A M_3: hey....im
BEHANU: im
somewhere on that list
in the mezzanine level
Taz_Aharon:
Taz_Aharon: kinda
Taz_Aharon: but
Taz_Aharon: lol
like a husband and wife
greater
tstudy84: lol
BEHANU: i better stop
BEHANU: with PMs
doing that
tstudy84: lol
sherryr: Hmmm, good analogy Isibel
Taz_Aharon: hehe
Taz_Aharon: they got the golden calf worship from egypt
BEHANU: they were focused on the judgmental (power)
aspect of G-d as they 'needed'
that to get through the desert
BEHANU: this is what the calf/bull represents
Bat Chesed: they may have got the idea to make a physical representation but their
need had nothing to do with Egypt.
BEHANU: it was less egyptian than symbolic of gevurah - power of G-d
BEHANU: but it is grave sin to 'separate' G-d as such
BEHANU: G-d is one
awlthroear: seperation from Yah has no life
Taz_Aharon: thats true
BEHANU: it is not so much
"separating G-d"
separating FROM G-d - they were not doing that - they were
Taz_Aharon: we shouldnt be able to connect to him at all
Taz_Aharon: but he loves us
Bat Chesed: so it doesn't matter so much the reason
and proven?
BEHANU: dividing up G-d so to speak
BEHANU: and focusing on 1 aspect separately
behind teshuva, but that it is made
Taz_Aharon: man, my text is small
Taz_Aharon: hehe
BEHANU: similar to sin of Aaron's sons btw
Taz_Aharon: yes
Taz_Aharon: right
awlthroear: Very true Beh
YehoshuaBA: you can change the size of that Taz
Taz_Aharon: its almost more than one type of teshuvah
BEHANU: brb
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Taz_Aharon: repentance out of fear
Bat Chesed: but that kind of repentence would probably
same situation that caused the sin in the first place
Taz_Aharon: repentance out of love
Taz_Aharon: i know yehoshua
Taz_Aharon: heh
Taz_Aharon: i put it this way
YehoshuaBA: ok
Taz_Aharon: not all woman like rings
Taz_Aharon: haha
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Taz_Aharon: diamonds!
Taz_Aharon: lol
not survive being placed in
BEHANU: spyware
attack
Isibel: not lawnmowers
BEHANU: be careful all
Isibel: LOL
A D A M_3: have to go isibel...... thanks for room.
Taz_Aharon: i told my with once i planned on getting her a ring for our anniversary
Isibel: Shalom ty
Taz_Aharon: and she told me
tstudy84: ha ha lawnmowers....
Taz_Aharon: thats stupid, dont waste the money
sparkle_zzirf: spyware from Paltalk?
BEHANU: if you get a screen regarding this dont hit the cancel button
Taz_Aharon: wife once*
BEHANU: best to leave PT and sign back on
awlthroear: Shalom
BEHANU: done through
as it will launch it
paltalk
Bat Chesed: in class today R. Ken said,
sparkle_zzirf: ok thanks for the info
G-d is like the ultimate jewish mother ....
Isibel: LOL
Bat Chesed: he knows ALL your faults, but cares about you anyway
Taz_Aharon: lol
Bat Chesed: and enough to tell you things like "I told you not to do that.
listen."
You NEVER
Isibel:
Taz_Aharon: good thing YHVH has both males and female aspects
Bat Chesed: of
course he said it with a bad yiddish accent and a screechy voice
Isibel: LOLO
Marciyah: thanks
for the room
Marciyah: shalom
Isibel: Thank you
very much
Isibel: Shalom
Taz_Aharon: cya marci
sparkle_zzirf: Is the lesson
Taz_Aharon:
Isibel: Well,
Isibel: ty
over now?
good study tonight
no new questions
taz
BEHANU: open
Isibel: Yes
forum for Qs
BEHANU: longer room coming next week
Taz_Aharon: of course rabbi isibel
tstudy84: Learned alot today Isibel - hope
Taz_Aharon:
Taz_Aharon: lol
Bat Chesed: thanks
someone is recording
Isibel. It was really nice of your to hold class while I had to reinstall
paltalk
YehoshuaBA: --sherryr: Thank
you Isibel, shalom all
Isibel: LOL
Isibel: Shalom Sherry
Taz_Aharon: i gotta write all my geneology stuff in my stone chumash
Taz_Aharon: haha
iguana_8: thanks isibel
Taz_Aharon: i thought that was super cool
Bat Chesed: Isibel, do you think knowing
the archtype represented by each patriarch
and matriarch is important?
Taz_Aharon: it has that
sparkle_zzirf: thank you Isibel
Isibel: I would love to, yes
Isibel: Thank
for the lesson
you sparkle
Taz_Aharon:
Taz_Aharon: im suprized bruce left soo early
Taz_Aharon: he must have to get up early
Isibel: Yes
Taz_Aharon: i gotta get up at 3am
Isibel: OUCH
Bat Chesed: maybe
Isibel: why?
so Taz, I hope he rests well
tstudy84: yikes
Taz_Aharon:
Taz_Aharon: i work at 4am
Isibel: Oh
Bat Chesed: that's an early shift Taz, what time zone are you
Taz_Aharon: as long as i get around 5 hrs
Taz_Aharon: im good
Taz_Aharon: pacific
YehoshuaBA: nothing like getting up at half-past stupid in the morning
Isibel: I like the 11-7am thing I do
Taz_Aharon: yeah
Taz_Aharon: i gotta get another job
Bat Chesed: oh ok, so you could get a good 6 hours if you go to bed soon
Taz_Aharon: hashem willing
Taz_Aharon: if i wanted
Isibel: I could play more ladino music
Taz_Aharon: but i never do
Isibel: LOL tha
then
Isibel: that will put you to sleep
Taz_Aharon: lol
Taz_Aharon: i like eastern music
Taz_Aharon: all types pretty much
Isibel: I do too
Isibel: mororccan
Isibel: esp
Isibel: and turkish
Isibel: ladino
Taz_Aharon: especially the indian and arabian music
tstudy84: I like the melodies on Azamra
Bat Chesed: Isibel,
last week I finally had the biopsy and I was really uneasy about it so
before I went I played Dan Nichols Hashkeveinu over like 10 times.
BEHANU: you could play that tune
BEHANU: that is nice
Taz_Aharon: i hate going to the doc
Taz_Aharon: ive had too many scacres
Taz_Aharon: scares
Bat Chesed: Taz, for 10 months I have
had a progressively larger mass on my abdomen.
They say all the blood tests show an infection but it's not responding well to
antibiotics so I allowed the biopsy but he did such a shallow thing I have no hope it's
going to show anything
Bat Chesed: in
the meantime the swelling is even worse and I can hardly walk with it.
Plus it's quite painful.
Taz_Aharon: im sorry to hear that
YehoshuaBA: 2
Bat Chesed: no sound Isibel
BEHANU: can u play dan nichols
Taz_Aharon: ill pray that YHVH will help
YehoshuaBA: 1
Bat Chesed: no we hear typing
Isibel: Oh
Bat I didnt know that was happening to you
Bat Chesed: now even sigh
Bat Chesed: hot mic Isibel
YehoshuaBA: your mic is on Isibiel
Taz_Aharon: last week when i hurt myself, i felt completly healed on the 7th day
Isibel: No sound?
Taz_Aharon: i thought that was interesting
Isibel: Music?
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Bat Chesed: she's just showing off her typing skills
Taz_Aharon: just your breathing
Bat Chesed: yes there is typing but no music
Taz_Aharon: and typing
Taz_Aharon: and sniffinh
Taz_Aharon: sniffing
Taz_Aharon: no music
Taz_Aharon: haha
BEHANU: yes play nicols
Bat Chesed: I have been on 6 antibiotics and one of them twice at double strenght
Taz_Aharon: bat, keep praying to hashem
Taz_Aharon: meditate
Bat Chesed: not to worry Taz, of course. I have also asked some friends to daven with
and for me
Isibel: anything?
Taz_Aharon: nothing
Bat Chesed: the biggest
problem is my husband gets really angry over it right now and
because he's bipolar it's causing big problems in the home
Taz_Aharon: doesnt show you on mic
David_42: mic not on
Bat Chesed: she will be right back
Bat Chesed: 1 David
Taz_Aharon: oh bat
BEHANU: 2
Isibel: no?
BEHANU: 2
Taz_Aharon: 1
Taz_Aharon: 2
Bat Chesed: Behanu go down stairs and fix it for
Taz_Aharon: 2
Isibel: how about now?
Bat Chesed: no nothing
Taz_Aharon: isibel, your nt on mic
Taz_Aharon: your not even showing that your on mic
Taz_Aharon: hmm
Isibel: how about now?
Bat Chesed: 2
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