K C Saksena & Venus in PurvaBhadrapada
A ‘Thy Experiments Towards Truth’ Series
By
Saptarishis Astrology
T
he Late astrologer K C Saksena, who was well known for possessing some secrets
of Bhrighu astrology wrote only one book in his life titled ‘Venus In Astrology’,
this was the result of 30 years of taking notes on just one planet Venus. Only
true scholars have appreciated this magnum opus work and unfortunately not a single
astrology writer has been able to replicate the success of this book to creating such
Magnum opus on other planets inspite of so many Organizations and Schools in
astrology. The need of the hour is to create individual books on each planets, houses and
signs to enlighten the students further. It has to be done by a great predictor, well
travelled and very well read man like K C Saksena as he was all three combined.
On Page 91 Chapter 7 titled ‘Venus in Various Constellations’ he writes that Venus in
PoorvaBhadrapada gives the following results – ‘He is a philosopher and poet. He is witty and
may become known for his humorous writings.’ Before we test this on several charts let’s see
the common sense approach which is the need of the hour.
Common Sense Approach
a) This kind of verse looks like it has been taken probably from a Rishis book or an
ancient authority or a rare astrologer, Saksena ji has not given the source for this
statement though at various parts of the book he has quoted many rare classics some
of them not found today making his work a must read before you die.
b) It is obvious that all who are born with Venus in PoorvaBhadrapada will not become a
poet or a humorous writer or a philosopher but why do authors or Rishi presents such
statements in their work, if you get the answer to this you would be the chosen few who
do not follow double dichotomous attitude of criticizing every article of any modern
author yet praising works of Rishis. This double standard and hypocrisy will stop and
your heart chakra will open out more thereby enabling more knowledge to come in.
In all our travels in India we have found only 2-3 who have been able to unravel this
very simple query.
c) Understand that each statement by a Rishi or Ancient Writer which looks like a
dictum is only a Clue, a Hint, a Building Block to make you piece together several
such clues and blocks and come to a conclusion after taking into account several
parameters. This ancient or modern writer will not emphasize on the Clue Gathering
Attitude as he expects everyone to have learnt this attitude from a Guru. Think why
did the Rishi or Ancient Writer not do statistical testing or present his technique via
statistical presentation, was he incapable of that, did he not have 30 charts in his
possession after so many years of existence. Was he not afraid of critics? Did you
ever notice one ancient writer ever criticizing the technique of another writer in his
writings? Did they have more good manners than our modern writers or did they
come from better family background than the present authors/forum
writers/facebook astrologers?
d) The last 100 years of Astro journalism has seen a particular fanatic mode of scientific
testing, which has ruined astrology. For e.g. if the above rule of Venus in
Poorvabhadrapada is seen in few charts of poets, then what has happened in the last 100
years is that all astrologers after reading such a statement or article, have taken the
charts of All The Poets In The Word and seen if Venus is in P.Bhadra and if they found
it only in 2 charts and not in other charts of poets they concluded that the
technique/article is bogus or not working. This method of thinking has ruined
astrology; we have never seen a true predictor ever use such kind of attitude to learn
astrology. What is to be understood that the Rishis gave several combinations and
parameters for each aspect of life like poverty, wealth. The Rishi did not give just one
parameter knowing full well the Law of Building Blocks & Supreme Creativity of the
Creator. The student would take one technique come to one small conclusion (Block)
and then when he sees several such clues that point to one direction, only then he
would piece together all the Blocks, Build it and Predict finally.
The reason the above Common Sense Approach has been written is since we have seen
stalwarts in astrology not use the Common Sense Approach. Learnt this from the Late C
S Patel ji so must acknowledge him here. So what you do is after you see this technique
working on the below 10 odd charts, just keep it in your memory that the next time you
see Venus in Poorvabhadrapada, see if there are other combinations in the chart for poet,
humorous writing, philosopher, does the dasa sequence in life support it and then come to
a conclusion. Also remember that there would be other results apart from the ones
mentioned by Saksena ji for Venus in poorvabhadrapada. If you do not have a copy of this
book Venus in Astrology, go to your nearest book shop and buy one, as this is the only
work of Saksena ji left, since unfortunately those astrologers who knew him in Delhi,
have not revealed the secrets they learnt from him. This happens in every city/village of
India, sharing is the biggest sin as per our Gurus and Shastras but we love to read what
others have shared, this is our double dichotomy. One old man summed it up and blamed
it to human nature, saying that astrologers are like ordinary men, they do not want to
exhibit their wives beauty but love to see beauty of other men’s wives.
Technique
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enus in PoorvaBhadrapada gives the following results – ‘He is a philosopher and
poet. He is witty and may become known for his humorous writings.’
a) Venus is a planet of beauty and art & represents bringing things to the
forefront as it rules Libra
Poorvabhadrapada is ruled by Jupiter, a planet of wisdom and philosophy
Poorvabhadrapada comes 75% in Aquarius and 25% in Pisces, one final earthy &
kama sign and other final watery & moksha sign, giving it a blend of great
combination of grounding and ether element. Saturn brings some amount of deeper
understanding into the miseries of life and also melancholy element. But Rahu the
planet of mystery will come more stronger as the co-lord of Aquarius.
Our limited observation has been that this Venus in P.Bhadrapada can sometimes be
found in esoteric/metaphysics or religious writers or in the case of
astrologers/occultists some very important planet would be in this nakshatra like
that of Late C S Patel’s Jupiter in the 8H in Poorvabhadrapada and he brought out
some rare gems out in public.
Readers are requested to see the end of this article for results of each pada of
P.Bhadrapada from ancient tamil palm leaves.
Part A – Poets, Writers, Humorists
Chart 1: Pasolini, Pier Paolo
Venus is in P.Bhadrapada in Gemini navamsa. He was a poet as conformed to what K C
Saksena wrote. This is what ADB says:Italian actor and director of radical films, best known for controversial films about people
in conflict with the mainstream society. A virtual Renaissance man who was "poet,
novelist, scholar, film critic and theorist, reforming zealot and creator of large scaled
visual spectaculars. Poetic and literate, a Marxist yet bourgeois in his efforts to be
socially correct, he died under circumstances as perverted as those seen in some of his
films.
Chart 2: Angelou, Maya
Venus is in P.Bhadrapada & in D9 it is in 3h of writing and singing in Gemini navamsa
with 3 more planets, making her capable of many talents.
American performing artist and prolific writer, a poet and autobiographer, author of over 12
best-selling books, and much-loved American sage.
Her friendship with Oprah Winfrey and her appearances on the popular Oprah Winfrey
daytime TV show have brought her face and her spirit into the American home She won
a Grammy in 2003 for Best Spoken Word Album for her recording of her book “A Song
Flung Up to Heaven” and that same year participated in a production of a gospel music
CD.
Chart 3: Duncan, Lois
Venus is in P.Bhadrapada in Gemini Navamsa and the navamsa dispositor of Venus who
is Mercury is in the 3H of writing in Navamsa.
American writer, magazine photographer and instructor in the department of journalism
at the University of New Mexico 1971-'82. The winner of many awards, she is a lecturer
at writer's conferences.
Prolific, she wrote under her own name and under the pen name of Lois Kerry, children,
youth and juvenile novels, mystery, suspense and the supernatural, and poetry, with over
500 articles and stories to periodicals. Her work included "I Know What You Did Last
Summer," 1973, later made into a film.
Chart 4: Worden, Alfred
Venus is in PoorvaBhadrapada in Cancer Navamsa in the 3H of writing in D9. Note the
symbology of Cancer – 4H-Earth & lord is Moon and note the titles of his book.
American astronaut, selected by NASA in April 1966. He served as command module
pilot on the fourth manned lunar landing mission. His experiences in space prompted
him to write a book of poetry titled "Hello Earth: Greetings from Endeavor," 1974 and a
children’s book called "I Want to Know About a Flight to the Moon," 1974.
Chart 5: Bombeck, Erma
Venus is PoorvaBhadrapada in Cancer Navamsa in 7H in D9, note apart from being a
humorist confirming to Saksenas view, see what she wrote on.
American journalist and humorist, the author of 11 books and a column read by millions in
700 cities. Her books include "The Grass is Always Greener Over The Septic Tank," "If
Life is a Bowl of Cherries, What am I Doing in the Pits?" and "A Marriage Made in
Heaven... Or Too Tired For An Affair."
A newspaper reporter before she quit work to care for a husband and three kids, she
began writing a humor column in 1964 and was syndicated the following year. With a
mischievous smile and an exuberance of spirit, Bombeck knew that she wanted to be a
humor writer from the age of 14.
Chart 6: Bertolucci, Bernardo
Venus is in PoorvaBhadra in Taurus Navamsa the sign of eyes, owned by Venus, so it
becomes a double Venus, aspected by Mars the 3L of Navamsa in D9. Apart from a
movie director he was also a poet.
Italian director, one of the most accomplished of his generation. A poet as a child, he was
published before he was 12. His passion for film began in his teens, and he dropped out of
college in 1961 to become Pasolini's assistant director. The following year, he directed his
first film, "The Grim Reaper." He had two outstanding films in the '70s, "The Spider's
Stratagem" and "The Conformist." His "Last Tango in Paris," 1972, was deemed both
obscene and an erotic masterpiece.
On 4/11/1988, he won the Best Director Oscar for "The Last Emperor," a film that swept up
awards in nine categories. The $23.8 million epic was shot in China from 1984-1987 with a
crew of 100 from Italy, 20 from England and 150 Chinese. There were 60 actors from six
countries and 19,000 extras. There were 30 or more interpreters working at all times as
they shot inside Beijing's Forbidden City. The film was released in November 1987.
Chart 7: Bee, Jaymz
Venus is in Poorva Bhadrapada in Taurus Navamsa, the sign of voice, apart from being a
singer he also authored a humor book.
Canadian singer and leader of "The Look People" who sold approximately 10,000 albums.
They performed as the house band of the TV Ralph Benmergui Show. In his solo career
he did parodies of lounge music with the Royal Jelly Orchestra. Bee is the author of a
humor book, "Cocktails for Dummies."
Chart 8: Vigny, Alfred de
Venus is in PoorvaBhadrapada in watery navamsa of cancer. In Rasi and Navamsa it is
aspected by Saturn from the 9h and as the 9L in D9
French romantic poet, one of the most thoughtful and philosophical of the romantic writers.
He is noted for his plays and a diary, "Journal D'Un Poete," 1867. Vigny's best poems were
published posthumously in a volume entitled, "Poemes Antique Et Modernes," 1882.
Chart 9: Bataille, Henri Felix
Venus is in P.Bhadra in Taurus Navamsa aspected by creative Moon in D9. French poet,
dramatist and painter. He was attracted to painting as a youth and entered the Ecole des
Beaux Arts in 1890, but, essentially a romantic, he soon turned to writing verse and drama.
Part B – Esoterics, Occultists, Metaphysics
Chart 10: Shirley MacLaine – Hollywood Actress & Spiritualist
There is a particular book of hers titled The Camino: A Journey Of The Spirit, ohh
what a book that is, you would fall in love with it, a must read, if you want to understand
soul secrets, it is superbly written and no doubt she is such a best seller. The most
striking combination in her chart is Venus Saturn (see the note below) in 6H & Sun
Mars in 8H, these 4 influencing her debilitated Mercury. Her Venus Saturn can be badly
judged with the open marriage and affairs she had but that’s what pseudo astrologers of
India would do, you have to read Chandra Kala Nadi, Page 220 and understand deeper
spiritual meaning of Venus Saturn combo.
Venus is in Poorvabhadra associated with Saturn in D1, D9 and D60 where this
Venus is exalted. Venus is the 9L in the 6H of pending karma with a spiritual planet
Saturn who is the 6L. Many a times it has been seen that 6L in the 9H or vice versa often
takes one into some form of the mystic or interest in mystical/ancient sciences.
American dancer, actress, writer and metaphysician. She has won the Oscar for best
actress along with many other awards. She also has nine best-selling books, all by the year
2000.
An excellent dramatic actress, comedienne and dancer, she turned to writing while waiting
around on movie sets. Her first book, "Don't Fall Off The Mountain" was published in
1982, followed by "Out On A Limb," published May 1983 and spending 15 weeks on the
best seller list. From the time she wrote her first book, Shirley was the butt of much
teasing for her belief in reincarnation and metaphysical views. Shirley first felt that she had
lived before at age seven with a moment of insight. In her 20's she went to India, already
convinced of reincarnation and sharing past-life experiences with people.
Venus Saturn Combinations
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n order to remove this enigma of Venus Saturn conjunctions and the straight off
half truth1 about this conjunction we must intercede in this article and create a small
monologue on it.
When we learn astrology if our knowledge is limited to only articles/ lectures via
our teachers/ gurus then we are totally dependent on how far the teacher or writer of that
article has gone. Unfortunately 99% of astro students read only what modern writers
have written and do not venture into published classics of astrology and hardly 100 might
hunt deeply into the unpublished classics. Most think that Venus Saturn conjunction
often gives a homosexual tendency. This might be true in the case of Arnold or it might
not be true. This scribe lists down the few results any of which can manifest depending
on the Asc and the influence of other planets. Some of the results are from classics, some
from old authors and some of this scribes experience
a) Saturn signifies people from low income group who are especially doing manual work
like labourers, maids. At the same time Saturn signifies elderly people and most
important if the combination associates with a ‘More Karmic’ house then woman/man
from a very ‘Dramatic’ Past life. So Venus Saturn combo can indicate relations with
maids, servants (see chart of Arnold Schwarzeneger and his affair with the housekeeper) or
people from low income groups doing manual work, it can also indicate relations with
elderly lot and at times if it happens in the 6H, 8H, 12H it can indicate relations with
1
Real secrets of Yogas and conjunctions have never come out, each combination has a positive and negative side. E.g for
thousands of years we believe Gajakeshari Yoga or an Exalted Jupiter or a planet aspecting its own house to be giving good
results but this is only half truth and most misleading but then real astrology has never come out, powers in Metro Cities like
Delhi and Bombay see to it good astrologers never come out. - SA
someone from very dramatic past lives where the karma is pending and might cause
hurt or create a story akin to ‘Bridges Of Madison County’.2
b) If this Venus Saturn combo in the (6/8/12H or associated with their lords) gets the
association of a 3rd powerful planet then it gives result of an Immortal Casablanca, a
triangle love story. Sometimes the combination is simple like Saturn Venus together
in 12H aspected by 6L of pending karma Mars and sometimes you have to use it with
intelligence like in the case of Marilyn Monroe and see the triangles play out creatively
and not just the text book rule. See chart of the lovely yesteryears actress Ingrid
Bergman, then read point (g) below and co-relate her personal life triangle with
Roberto Rossellini and also the triangle in the greatest movie ever made ‘Casablanca’
which even after decades makes everyone cry. Similarly see the chart of her co-star
Humphrey Bogart and see the play of Saturn –Venus and Saturn Mars Venus in D1,
D9 and D60 and you would see why he was God’s chosen one for Casablanca and why
no one else could do it with that coldness (Saturn) and nostalgia melancholy
combination (Saturn).
c) Ven-Saturn can show perversion in sexual activities. It can also show perversion or
heightened sex especially mental sexual thoughts for a Gemini Asc like that of
Arnold.
d) If this Venus –Saturn combines in the 12H with aspect of Mars then ancient palm
leaves (nadi) says that this native will have curse of spouse from a previous life and at the
same time blessings of a Goddess3 – somehow this scribe has been able to test it on the
chart of a very close friend and found it working to the T including the hint of the
blessing part.
e) Chandra Kala Nadi an ancient book quotes at several places another ancient book titled
Vriddha Parasaryam stating that this Venus Saturn combination will cause a liking for
saints. One will perform penance and will reach the heavens after discarding his mortal coil. –
ref Chandra Kala Nadi (Deva Keralam), Page 220 Verse 4964. Understand the basic
meaning behind this verse and see the chart of the Hollywood actress Shirley Maclaine
and her achievements in understanding true spirituality.
f) Saturn Venus opposition or trines can create high sex and at times scandalous, like in the
case of Marilyn Monroe, Tiger Woods, Madonna and in case of Nehru Saturns
Infact at times we have found that actors who play strong roles in epic romantic sagas also have astro combinations
which get reflected in their screen roles. You can see how Clint Eastwood’s Saturn Venus plays out in D1, D9 & D60. 2
SA
3
This rule was published in an article titled Secrets from Nadi Leaves in 90s, around that time in Star Teller magazine, Chennai.
Trying to recollect from memory the aspect of Mars must not have been mentioned. - SA
aspect on Venus from 2H creating and the same in case of a famous Spiritualist who
was accused and proved in US court to have fathered a child and in case of JFK
Saturn Venus conjunct in the 12H of sex in the 9th harmonic.
g) It has been found that at times even Saturn’s sextiles, 3 rd aspect to Venus, can create a
form of sex scandal or a minor sex scandal depending on the strength of the planets.
Any form of Saturn Venus association can also give cheating issues, especially if
Rahu comes into play. In the case of Hillary Clinton one can find it working in the
9th Harmonic (D-9) which Indians use it for marriage issues. In the case of her
husband Bill Clinton it works in the main chart and also in the 9th harmonic with the
10th aspect of Saturn. Obviously the 10th, trine aspect cannot be ruled out, no doubt
this brings in more parameters but only if we knew how many marriages are faithful
we can make a true judgement of this technique.
h) Sage Pullipani in Pullipani Jothidam says ‘If Venus and Saturn join together wife will be
disobedient (wife who will not give him respect.)’
i) Another classic Saravali says ‘Venus and Saturn together – Marriage may be delayed –
wife will be disobedient and uncontrollable4 – Government officer or employee – favour
from Government officer – Artist – finance related job – trader in timber – Puthira
(Bad Effects in area of Children) Dosham – not affected by success or adversity.
j) One old village astrologer from Maharashtra, India told us that this can also be a
combination for man/woman allowing their spouses to have open marriage or allow
spouse to do it with others.
k) If Saturn is in the fixed star Algol 5 in this Saturn Venus conjunction and the house or
lordship associates with some limb of the body then it can create possibility of
physical disability. This was seen in charts of Vietnam veterans who lost their limbs
in the Vietnam War.
Late K C Saksena in his book ‘Venus in Astrology’
l) If a weak or afflicted or ill placed Saturn aspects or in association with an ill placed,
afflicted Venus, the native will taste the bitter fruits of kemudruma yoga (poverty
combination). We have seen a chart where both Venus Saturn affliction and
Kemudruma yoga is present and the native has poverty issues in life.
4 Found this working very well on many charts - SA
5 Algol is one of the most dreaded fixed stars. - SA
m) Venus Saturn combo definitely meets with some kind of misfortune in life.
n) This has also worked in few charts – according to Brihat Jataka conjunction of Venus
and Saturn indicate that the native is Alpoechaksha (a man with small eyes)
o) Late Saksena says ‘Ven-Sat conjunction may probably give an impression that it only
indicates a life of disappointment, frustration, responsibilities and sacrifice. In fact this
is not true and in a number of horoscopes of most successful natives this conjunction
raises the native to a high position provided he is under one of the six signs Taurus,
Libra, Gemini, Virgo, Capricorn or Aquarius (basically signs of Venus, Mer and
Saturn)’. He then goes on to describe results of this conjunction in all 12 houses.
Readers would find some rare results mentioned by him in regard to this conjunction
in his book as he has devoted several pages to Venus-Sat conj.
Chart 11: Adamski, George
Venus is in PoorvaBhadrapada along with the 3L of travelling/flying.
Polish-American author of "Flying Saucers Have Landed" and "Inside the Space Ships."
He became a pioneer and cult leader of the UFO culture with his claim that he met and
conversed with a citizen from Venus on 11/20/1952, 1:00 AM, Indigo, AZ.
Chart 12: Cannon, Delores
American hypnotherapist and past-life regressionist, author and lecturer. She states that
she contacted Nostradamus through one of her subjects and wrote a book of his
interpretations of the quatrains, with radical earth changes that included maps.
Cannon also writes material that she says comes from Jesus and other people from out of
history whom she claims come to her from the past lives of patients.
Conclusion
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n Part B, in total there are 8 cases where esoteric/mystic writing has come out.
Many of them are not listed. Readers can access astrodatabank.com and check the
charts of Abd-Ru-Shin, Keyes Ken, Leadbeater Charles, Oken Alan & Dr. Elaine
Pagels.
After finishing this article, it was posted to our Respected Associate Editor Shri
Yenbeeyes. These were his comments
Dear Sir,
I went through the article KC Saxena & Venus in Purvabhadrapada. I must definitely appreciate the efforts you
have put in behind this article.
Incidentally I have a Tamil book on Nakshatras (Mr Yenbeeyes has already sent an article on Krittika Nak in
2010 from this rare work which would be published soon this year) in which for each planet some results are given
pada-wise which is based on its position in Navamsa.
Dr. Pulippani Sundara Varadachariar who has published in Tamil three volumes titled as ‘Natchathira
Chinthamani’ published by Saraswathi Mahal Library.
There are certain leaves (Commonly called as ‘Suvadi’ in Tamil) available in Saraswathi Mahal Library situated
in Thanjavur in Tamilnadu. My write up on Krittika nakshatra is based on those leaves only. I have found
reference to Nakshatra in the following leaves:
1. Marana Kandikai (Ref. No. 1500)
2. Natchathira Soodamani (Ref. No. 850)
3. Natchathira Malai (Ref. No. 722)
4. Natchathira Pada Palan (Ref. No. N.K.R.)
5. Natchathira Nigandu (Ref. No. 888)
So I referred that book after reading this article. For Purvabhadrapada the following are found there.
Pada 1 - Aries Navamsa - Here it is taken like this - Venus-Saturn-Jupiter-Mars - Venus is the planet we are
considering; Saturn is the house lord in Rasi chart where Venus is place; Jupiter is the Nakshatra Lord and Mars is
the Navamsa Lord. Since none of them are enemies the results will be good. Such a person will be learned, will be
affectionate to his parents. He may be engaged in research activities. He will be undertaking frequent travels to
distant and foreign places. He may even settle down in a foreign country.
Pada 2 - Taurus Navamsa - Venus-Saturn-Jupiter-Venus - Best position for Venus in Aquarius. He will be a poet
or a singer and will be well versed in different kinds of arts. He will be affected by skin diseases, dropsy or dental
problems.
Pada 3 - Gemini Navamsa - Venus-Saturn-Jupiter-Mercury. Native may be a social worker. He may be an
architect or an interior decorator. He may also do business in skins and hydes or may be engaged in the processing
of them.
Pada -4 - Cancer Navamsa - In this case the Navamsa position is not good for Venus. The combination is VenusJupiter-Jupiter-Moon. He will always be thinking of his wife. He expects his wife to be well educated and should
be equal to him. He may be a doctor also.
When I compared this with the charts above I find Charts 1, 2, 3 - Venus is in 3rd pada; For Charts 4, 5, 8 - it is in 4th pada;
For charts 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12- it is in 2nd pada.
So majority of the charts are in the 2nd pada which as per the Tamil book they are poets/writers etc. For others it is quite
possible some other combinations/aspects etc must also be responsible.
Just like this it is given for all the 108 padas. This is just for your information.
Regards
Yenbeeyes