Minute - final - Community Meeting 10 December 2014 Appendix 1

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APPENDIX 1
1. TRANSPORT & PARKING
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1.5
1.6
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1.11
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1.13
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1.15
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1.17
1.18
1.19
1.20
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QUESTION
Is the estimated times for parking around town based upon able or disabled people’s
access?
Of 243 spaces 82 are designated long stay, where will the additional long-stay
parking be provided to assist the loss?
Where will the coaches for tourists be provided for drop off/pick up?
Greensands car park at north of sands - what improvements will be made for vehicle
access?
Why does the Council need to purchase the existing car park on the Whitesands?
Will replacement parking provision be put in place prior to closure and removal of
existing car parks?
How many Car park places will be lost on the street?
How will existing Greensands car park be utilised during periods of events and boat
launch? What is the timescale?
What will happen to the fair?
Is the finance in place to deliver on this planned programme?
Do you want a town centre?
Does the Scottish Government know about scheme?
Why does the plan not allow for car parking on Mill Green?
What about extending park & ride to out of town?
How will street parking be policed as current system is failing?
Would the council consider through access to town centre 10am-12noon/ 1pm-4pm?
Town centre has a great deal of unnecessary double yellow lines – can this be
looked into?
Have the additional car parking spaces been identified?
Under the Community Empowerment Bill what about community right to buy for the
NCP?
Loreburn car park site – What is the proposal?
More pedestrianized access along the Whitesands – how will this affect the flow of
traffic along the sands road? Has this been factored in?
What is happening to the embankment which is protected by SEPA? (The Gravel
ANSWER
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1.25
1.26
1.27
1.28
1.29
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1.31
1.32
Bank)
Parking along length of Whitesands is primarily used by town centre employees –
can these vehicles be issued with parking permits for top of NCP car park?
Why the proposal to put additional parking on greensands! More than planned for?
How will the loss of spaces affect the town centre’s regeneration?
Tourist buses should park at Brooms Road car park – where do they actually park?
Are tourist and visitors being assessed on footfall?
Have the planners considered extending short stay to long stay?
Who owns the existing Whitesands car park running parallel to the sands road?
Does the scheme meet the Scottish Government requirement for financial
assistance?
Is it true that 80% of transport will be adversely affected by these plans?
Without survey results on visitor numbers etc how can you deliver a presentation
without full details?
COMMENTS
The current loss in street parking revenue could have gone toward meeting the plan costs!
500 more spaces needed in town centre
Misguided to do away with any green area to put car parking in place!
Abolish the one way system
The greensands should remain with limited parking
Dig away the islands
Why do people object to walking 5 mins from greensands?
People will naturally park closest to their destination!
I come into town centre because there is currently sufficient car park spaces!
2. LANDSCAPE
2.1
2.2
2.3
2.4
2.5
2.6
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2.12
2.13
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2.16
QUESTION
Glass walls, who will maintain/clean etc?
Who cleans the gates? /closes gates?
Have all permission and funding been sought?
Will trees etc be washed away in high waters?
Has Riggfoot been looked at? It’s been washed away previously.
Will DG2 be included?
It will look pretty, is it worth the money?
Who will cut the grass and how much will this cost given that the Council has
already reduced the grass-cutting budget?
No one maintains bus stop who cleans these and glass?
Are there rules in a conservation area?
Who will agree planning permissions – Council?
Can the scheme begin without planning permission?
What happened to the Ireland example for Dumfries?
How low can the wall be before the glass can go on top?
How many businesses will we lose due to construction?
Can we do the same as Dalbeattie river scheme?
COMMENTS
We are hiding our features with grass banking (river bridge etc)
Cycle path – town centre attraction – really? No one uses bikes
This is pushing cars out of the town again and pushing into residential areas
On paper it looks pleasant
Water level will be higher than Devorgilla Bridge
Country feature in town centre doesn’t make sense
No mention of landscaping Vennel/Bank Street etc lights/seats etc
It looks nice and is positive
Why go to all this bother, just protect the buildings
The Dock Park will flood
Whitesands isn’t brilliant and people are objecting
We feel cut off from our river
Thought of 2/3 metre wall is hideous
ANSWER
This will have effect on conservation area
Misleading drawings
Design seems over complicated
This will take away public space on Whitesands
Going to divide town from river
Destroys landscape – have glass wall all along
Too expensive
Let the Whitesands flood – safeguard the businesses already there
The ideal would be street level with rising glass barriers to maintain current street level
Press need to fully understand and publish both sides of this debate
This is exciting for the town
Concern re figures look at DG One/Burns Statue
Timeline
Long term will hopefully attract businesses into area
£30k plus to maintain this grass area
Cutting us off from river
Better with wall at shop end
What happens on Whitesands might have effect on Town centre
Public need to be made aware of planning procedures
3. REGENERATION BENEFITS
3.1
3.2
3.3
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3.9
QUESTION
Confirmation of timescales?
How will this affect existing businesses (compensation?)
Will the scheme protect Dock Park?
Will penalty clauses be put in place?
Maintenance of “banking”- what are the costs?
Property owners on Whitesands have right of access to the river – how will
this be dealt with?
Will Council commit resources to priorities 2 + 3 of the Town Centre
Regeneration Strategy?
Will there be two-way dialogue required with businesses throughout the
works?
Will there be access to the river?
COMMENTS
Do nothing
River is major asset, massive opportunity
Regeneration requires same amount of parking on Whitesands
Bring in more businesses, not at the expense of the High Street
No businesses left after 2 years of works
Keep greensands green
Art college is connected - it should be reopened
Massive tourist attraction, will bring life back to the town
Will link up more areas of Dumfries and its surrounds, giving more opportunity for businesses
Lighting adequate for public safety requires to be put in place
Embankment will feel like a tunnel
An enhancement to the Whitesands
Prioritise the wider master plan (charrette)
Removal of toilets from Whitesands will deter visitors to Dumfries
ANSWER
4. ENGINEERING
4.1
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QUESTION
Will protection scheme bring more business to Dumfries? How will business losses
during and after construction be repaid?
What is the impact of protection works on views of/on the river?
Concerned about impact on Devorgilla Bridge (historic monument) – has Historic
Scotland been consulted?
Has flooding fields upstream been considered as an alternative?
Has removal of silt etc from above and below Old Bridge been considered?
Is there any way that water could be held upstream until high tides lower (e.g. 2hours
before and after)?
- Divert water to Glenkiln reservoir?
- Scheme currently used in Dalbeattie.
Can it be proved that removal of islands at the Caul wouldn’t ease flooding?
Welldale residents – is it possible to retain the height BUT less wall, more glass (all
glass ideal)?
If maintaining current street level, how high can we have the self-floating glass
screens? Would they be effective?
How did Keswick and Cockermouth get schemes in place so quickly? How did they
deal with objections? Consultations? Etc
Will glass stand up to impact from trees etc?
How will floating glass barriers stand up to winter conditions?
Explore parking options on Mill Green/Deer Park?
Will the river still be seen from all areas of Whitesands?
Will a grant be given to existing buildings for an upgrade/overhaul?
How does this development tie in with the £1m Vennel development?
Are any proposals guaranteed to work? Will it be same standard as DGOne? Will it
last longer?
What will happen if a flood happens during construction?
Buccleuch Street bridge downstream by the footpath – can you clear banks/walls?
Is there adequate upstream capacitance for flood water and reduction of damming
effect of proposed plans at Whitesands? (Upstream storage)
How would the increased pressure of water impact on St Michael’s Street bridge?
How will traffic congestion with proposed bus route on Bank Street/Irish Street be
ANSWER
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4.24
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dealt with?
Can you create feature at end of Devorgilla Bridge to maintain the original steps and
create a glass platform?
What consideration has the council given to ensure the least disruptive sub-terranian
engineering methods are used before and during work?
Will sewerage issues be tackled first (Brewery Street) – 2 Artesian wells under 11
Whitesands and the Hub?
Why not dredge the river from Castledykes up?
This will have an impact at Kirkton, how will emergency services get through?
COMMENTS
Protection measures will impact on areas upstream and downstream of the Whitesands
Removal of islands at the Caul and slipway
In the1990’s/2000’s cages of granite rock were put into the river, nothing was taken out to compensate
Traffic congestion with proposed bus route on Bank Street/Irish Street
The river is a feature – should be embraced
Dumfries needs a bus station out of sight, not part of development
Important for Council to have hands on approach throughout and oversee everything
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