Personal Finance: Another Perspective Classroom Slides: Family 1: Money and Marriage Updated 2014/03/26 Note: Most of the ideas from this section are from Gordon B. Hinckley’s “Proclamation on the Family” and Bernard E. Poduska, For Love and Money: How to share the same checkbook and still love each other, Brooks/Cole Publishing, 1993. The book is a great resource, but out of print. It can be purchased at Amazon.com or ebay.com. 1 Objectives • A. Understand the key principles of money and marriage • B. Understand why money may be an issue in relationships • C. Understand a few recommendations for money and marriage 22 Personal Financial Plan • Section XI. Money and Relationships • If you fill out TT21 - Questions on Money and the Family you will fulfill all the requirements for this section. It covers family and finances including: • How did your family handle their finances? • How did they teach you financial responsibility? • How did they prepare for missions and education? • Action Plan • How will you handle finances in your family? • How will you teach your children finance? • How will you save for your children’s education and missions? 33 A. Ten Key Principles of Marriage and Money • Are there principles of marriage and money that can help us to be happier and wiser stewards over our blessings? • • Yes Are there only ten? • No • But these will at least give you something to think about as you ponder this topic • You will likely have many more than ten principles 44 Principles Marriage (continued) 1. The family is ordained of God • From the Proclamation on the Family (1995), it states: • The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. • President Hinckley said: • We must work at our responsibility as parents as if everything in life counted on it, because in fact everything in life does. If we fail in our home, we fail in our lives. No man is truly successful who has 55 failed in his home (“Each a Better Person,” Ensign, Principles of Marriage (continued) 2. Your spouse has priority • President David O. McKay said: • Let me assure you, Brethren, that some day you will have a personal priesthood interview with the Savior, Himself. . . I will tell you the order in which He will ask you to account for your earthly responsibilities. First, He will request an accountability report about your relationship with your wife. Have you actively been engaged in making her happy and ensuring that her needs have been met as an individual? [From Notes of Fred A. Baker, Managing Director, Department of Physical Facilities], as quoted by Robert D. Hales, BYU Devotional, 15 March 1988. 66 Principles of Marriage (continued) 3. Marriage partners are equal • • From the Proclamation on the Family, it states: • By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. (Proclamation on the Family, 1995) Equal partners means both have equal responsibility and equal say in financial matters 77 Principles of Marriage (continued) • Control of money by one spouse as a source of power, or failure to be a part of financial management are both inappropriate. Elder Marvin J. Ashton wrote: • Management of family finances should be mutual between husband and wife in an attitude of openness and trust. Control of the money by one spouse as a source of power and authority causes inequality in the marriage and is inappropriate. Conversely, if a marriage partner voluntarily removes himself or herself entirely from family financial management, that is an abdication of necessary responsibility. (Marvin J. Ashton, “Guide to Family Finance,” Liahona, Apr. 2000, 42) 88 Principles of Marriage (continued) 4. Marriage partners should seek the “best interests” of the family • From the LDS Family Relations manual it states: • When a husband and wife work together to manage their finances, they become unified in an important effort to set their home in order. Some of the most serious problems in marriage arise when financial resources are not managed carefully and in the best interest of the family. (LDS Church, Marriage and Family Relations Instructor’s Manual, A: Strengthening Marriages, 8: Managing Family Finances, Purpose, 2000, 35.) • We should follow the example of Christ. Nephi said: • He doeth not anything save it be for the benefit of the world; for he loveth the world. (2 Nephi 26:24) 99 Principles of Marriage (continued) • 5. Financial problems are usually behavioral problems, not money problems • The Lord shared a parable in which explained: • For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country. . . and delivered unto them his goods. And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one … But he that had received one [talent] went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord’s money. (Matt 25:14-18) • All three had the same opportunity. It wasn’t money, but the use of that money that made the difference. The Lord expects more from us! 10 10 Principles of Marriage (continued) • 6. Change is necessary • If you always do what you have done, you will always get what you have always got! • For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Galatians 6:7 ) • If you: • Continue to spend instead of save, you will continue living from paycheck to paycheck. • Continue to borrow to support a lifestyle, you will continue to get further and further into debt • Continue to save and invest wisely, you will likely continue to achieve your goals 11 11 Principles of Marriage (continued) • 7. Money spent on things you value leads to satisfaction and accomplishment • In Matthew 6:24, 31-33 it states: • No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. . . But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. • If you know your goals, you will spend your money on those things that you value. If you do not, you will scatter your resources (and your time) trying to determine what is important to you. 12 12 Principles of Marriage (continued) • 8. Financial freedom is more the result of decreased spending than increased income • In Psalms 21:20 it states: There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spendeth it up. • There is a difference between financial independence and financial freedom • Financial independence is the acquisition of enough wealth to enable you to sustain a high standard of living without further effort • Financial freedom is having enough discretionary income to enable you to make the financial choices that are important to you 13 13 Principles of Marriage (continued) • 9. Spouses are to leave their parents and become one • Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. (Genesis 2:24) • Spouses are to leave the things their parents did, including the things their parents did incorrectly • They are to work together to become one; one in purpose, one in unity, and one in goals 14 14 Principles of Marriage (continued) • 10. The best things in life are free • Nothing is more important than eternal life • Seek not for riches but for wisdom, and behold, the mysteries of God shall be unfolded unto you, and then shall you be made rich. Behold, he that hath eternal life is rich (D&C 6:7, 11:7). • The things which are truly the most important to us, and that will make a difference in our lives are not those things which cost money • They are those things which bring us closer together as families and communities, both temporally and spiritually. 15 15 Principles Summary • 1. The family is ordained of God • 2. No one or nothing is more important than your spouse • 3. Partners are equal • 4. Partners should seek the “best interests” of the family • 5. Financial problems are usually behavioral problems, not money problems 16 16 Summary (continued) • 6. Change is necessary. • 7. Money spent on things you value leads to satisfaction and accomplishment • 8. Financial freedom is more the result of decreased spending than increased income • 9. Spouses are to leave their parents and become one. • 10. The best things in life are free 17 17 Questions • Any questions on the 10 key principles of Marriage and Money? 18 18 B. Understand Why Money May be an Issue in Marriage • Elder James E. Faust commented: • Money itself seems neither to make a couple happy, nor the lack of it, necessarily, to make them unhappy, but money is often a symbol of selfishness (James E. Faust, “The Enriching of Marriage,” Ensign, Nov. 1977, 9). • To minimize money problems in marriage, we should learn the potential problem areas and understand how to eliminate them • What are the potential problem areas in marriage? 19 19 Why Money May be an Issue (continued) • • In a survey conducted by Worth magazine: • Couples admitted to fighting about money more than anything else. • A staggering 57% of those surveyed agreed with the statement, “In every marriage, money eventually becomes the most important concern” (Eric Tyson, Personal Finance for Dummies, IDG Books Worldwide, 2000. p. 10). Why do you think this is the case? • What do you think are the major reasons money is such an issue in marriage and relationships? 20 20 1. Lack of Financial Knowledge • Why the lack of knowledge regarding personal finance? • Ignorance • They truly don’t know about personal finance • Carelessness • They know, but don’t want to put it into practice • Compulsiveness • They know, but can’t discipline their spending • Pride • They know but don’t do, because how they look to others is more important than how they look to God 21 21 Lack of Knowledge (continued) • What can be done? • Ignorance • Learn about finance. Finish this series. Make learning a lifelong process. • Write out your personal and family goals, and complete your personal and financial plan • Carelessness • Become exact in all you do • Keep good records and keep learning • Get and stay on a budget • Be accountable for your spending 22 22 Lack of Knowledge (continued) • Compulsiveness • Learn to live a disciplined life • Ask “Does this action get me closer to or farther from my personal / family goals?” • If it brings you closer, do it. • Pride • Put God first in your lives • Ask: “Does this action bring me closer to God and obedience to His commandments?” • If it doesn’t, don’t do it. 23 23 2. Lack of Communication • Why is communication between spouses so critical? • Communication is a sign of respect between spouses • Be willing to understand, discuss, and reconcile attitudes early in a relationship • Resolve misunderstandings before they escalate • Implement family processes that promote trust and mutual discussion 24 24 Lack of Communication (continued) • What can be done? • Develop a regular communication plan (weekly, monthly, quarterly, annually) • Ideally, a weekly finance/inventory meeting where you discuss finances, budget, investments, etc. should be one of your most important meetings (after church meetings, FHE, temple attendance and weekly dates) 25 25 3. Differences in Financial Personality Types and Family Baggage • How have family rules and personalities shaped your attitudes and beliefs about finances? • Think how you were brought up • Your spouse was likely brought up differently 26 26 Financial Personality Types (continued) • Miser • • • • Dad/mom pays cash for everything Mom/dad pays the bills and kept the books The family never talks about money The family never knows where they are financially • Spender • Dad/mom’s motto is shop ’til you drop • Mom/dad always feel that things will work out • There is no budgeting or planning for major purchases, and no planning for the future • If I can’t take it with me, then I’m not going! 27 27 Financial Personality Types (continued) • Unequally Yoked • Mom/dad only gives spouse a little money each week—spouse has to ask whenever they want anything else • Mom/dad has the final say—the purse is power • Mom and dad are not equal partners • Selfish Provider • Dad/mom said since they earned the money, they would decide where the money went • Mom/dad has to ask when they need money • There are no goals, no budget, or plan for large purchases, future retirement, or education 28 28 Financial Personality Types (continued) • Sleeper • “Disasters and crisis happen to others, not us.” • “We pay tithing--its like guaranteed insurance. . .” • We don’t have to plan, because things always work out • The Wise Steward • • • • We pay the Lord first, and ourselves second We save part of everything we earn We share basic financial information as a family We are wise stewards over all we have 29 29 Financial Personality Types (continued) • What can be done? • Recognize that you and your spouse grew up differently • Accept it! Work it out together • While you cannot control how you were brought up, you can control how you work together • Work together as equal “Christlike” partners • A “helpmeet” is an equal • Work through communication and the development of common goals • Know what you both want to accomplish in life, then work toward those goals 30 30 Financial Personality Types (continued) • Elder Robert D. Hales said: • If the example we have received from our parents was not good, it is our responsibility to break the cycle. … Each person can learn a better way and in so doing bless the lives of family members now and teach correct traditions for the generations that follow (“How Will Our Children Remember Us?” Ensign, Nov. 1993, p. 10). 31 31 4. Lack of Shared Goals • Why does the lack of shared goals result in so many problems in marriages? • • • • • • Marriage Family Friends Service Missions Worthy causes 32 32 Lack of Shared Goals (continued) • What can be done? • Individually write down your personals goals • Then as a couple, discuss each others goals with the goal solely to understand • You do not evaluate or criticize their goals • As a couple, write your Family Financial Plan incorporating both family and personal goals together • Develop family goals, then prioritize your family goals • Work toward what you think are your most important goals 33 33 Lack of Shared Goals (continued) • Then write your other goals: • Starting a family • Educating your children, helping them during school, and helping them during and after college • Charitable giving • Owning a business • Saving for a big purchase (a car, a trip to China, etc). • Recreation and vacations 34 34 Lack of Shared Goals (continued) • Remember to always keep your priorities in order • • • • • Pay the Lord first, with an honest tithing and generous fast offerings Pay yourself second and invest your money wisely. Live on a budget and stay out of debt Prepare for emergencies, with cash reserves, food storage, and adequate insurance Save for retirement, and then education and missions for your children Allocate funds wisely for other personal and financial goals 35 35 5. Lack of Gospel Maturity • Why do problems arise when we do not live our lives consistent with the way we know we should live? • As we study, ponder, pray, and live the gospel, we live worthy of the influence of the Holy Ghost. • We then can have the strength and inspiration from the Holy Ghost to help us understand where we are, to recognize our weaknesses, and to know what we need to do • Then, with that knowledge, we can work so that our weaknesses can be made strengths with God’s help (Ether 12:27). 36 36 Gospel Maturity (continued) • Gospel maturity is doing those things necessary to bring us back to our Heavenly Father. King Benjamin gave us the method for becoming mature in the gospel: • For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father (Mosiah 3:19). 37 37 Reasons Money may be an Issue (continued) • What can be done? • Remember your ultimate goal, which is exaltation with your spouse • Behold he that hath eternal life is rich (D&C6:7) • Remember your ultimate interview with the Savior. • Work on those things that will be asked first • Remember your stewardship over your blessings • You will have to give an accounting • Remember to choose wisely • For you are His steward and are accountable for your choices 38 38 C. Recommendations for Money and Marriage • Following are a few ideas which have been helpful in my marriage • Please note that I am not a family therapist or expert in family matters. I just have seven kids, 2 married, 2 sons-in-law, 3 grandchildren, 2 extra kids, and am still married • I am only a teacher with a few ideas (and ideas can be very dangerous!!!) 39 39 Recommendations (continued) • 1. Delegate Action, but Share Responsibility • It's not unusual for one spouse to play the primary role in managing the finances, but it is critical that both are involved and aware • Make sure both are involved • If one has more knowledge, it is their responsibility to teach the other • Switch responsibilities each year or so • Be certain you can clearly articulate all assets and liabilities and locate the necessary back-up documentation. • Hide no spending from each other 40 40 Recommendations (continued) • While some decisions may be delegated, major decisions must be agreed on beforehand • Set a limit over which purchases must be discussed, i.e. $20, except groceries • Remember that managing the various dimensions of your partnership is a shared mutual responsibility • If both are not on the same page financially, help each other learn about financial responsibility • Teach your spouse, because once you are gone, your spouse will have to do the work by themselves 41 41 Recommendations (continued) • 2. Develop family goals as a couple • Develop and work on specific family goals • Agree on and write down your family goals • Saving should be a weekly activity • Opinions should be discussed freely and openly without fear of ridicule. • We must agree to disagree agreeably • If you have concerns about your partner's spending, financial decisions or your delegated role in managing money, make sure you express those thoughts and opinions in a “Christ-like” manner • Memorize and live D&C 121: 34-46. 42 42 Recommendations (continued) • 3. Separate “real" from “imagined” problems • Too often arguments over money are about things entirely different. Separate out the “real” from the “imagined” problems • Finances and the things you "own" are very tangible assets, and hence it is easy to project emotional issues onto these money matters. • Think carefully before discussing these concerns • Ensure there isn't a larger problem at the core • Set up an established time when you can discuss spending and financial issues • Avoid discussing finances at a time or place that may have or cause pre-existing stress 43 43 Recommendations (continued) • 4. Keep the romance alive • Elder L. Tom Perry counseled: • Perhaps it would also be appropriate to have a date with our wives each week, to remind us of the great blessing they are in our lives (L. Tom Perry, “Family Traditions,” Ensign, May 1990, 19). • I further encourage time alone each quarter and each year with only your spouse (without the kids) • After all, when the kids are grown, there will still be the two of you 44 44 Questions • Any questions on why money may be an issue in relationships, and what you can do to minimize those issues? 45 45 Review of Objectives • A. Do you understand the key principles of money and marriage? • B. Do you understand why money may be an issue in Marriage? • C. Do you understand a few recommendations on Money and Marriage? 46 46 Case Study #1 • I received the following email. What problems do you see and what recommendations would you make? • “I would be interested in a unit on the emotional component of money, and how to avoid contention when two people have opposite ideas of how money is to be managed. Sometimes, the pathway of applying correct principles leads right to the doorway of contention.” • “For example: one spouse believes in your advice to save a small amount of money. The other spouse refuses to allow that and insists on spending it. If the spender is the husband and the saver is the wife, how do you reconcile those positions while avoiding contention?” 47 47 Case Study #2 • How does your answer change with this second email? What are the problems and how would you respond? • “How does the more sophisticated money manager spouse, say the wife, remain patient with the more primitive money manager, say the husband, when real financial harm or financial chaos is being created? How can that be tolerated in order to avoid contention? Which is the higher priority: avoiding contention or working to stop the financial hemorrhaging?” • “And the second issue involves the difference in risk tolerances of husbands' and wives, i.e., the husband has a particular talent and has started his own business, the wife wants a steady paycheck. If the pros and cons are of equal weight in both scenarios, doesn’t the husband’s idea win by4848 default if he is the wage earner?” Case Study #2 (continued) • “Another point is that the presentation seemed to assume that the viewers came from LDS families – I for one am a convert, and did not grow up with parents who saved for a mission or paid tithing. In fact, I have to be extremely careful about my tithe paying as it is an extremely sore subject for my non-member family who disapproves of the practice.” • “Again – yet another scenario in which it is the very act of trying to obey correct principles leads to contention and opposition within the family. You have my permission to use my questions and concerns.” • Signed 49 49 Case Study #2 Answers • A. Following are a few problems • The underline portion are the principles while the statements are the facts from the email • Marriage partners are equal. It doesn’t seem so from this email. It appears that the writer is appealing to an outside authority (me) to support what they think is correct. It appears communication may have broken down between spouses • Control of money as power. It appears there is a type of money control question here—money is power. This “money as power” is inappropriate for equal partners 50 50 Case Study #2 Answers (continued) • Best interests. It appears that both may not be seeking the “best interests” of the family but may be trying to further their own “best interests.” Family interests must be put first • Behavioral problems. This appears to me to be, at least in part, a behavioral issue and not a finance issue. It seems communication is a major concern here, and finances are the representation of that concern • Change. It seems from the reading that both assume an unwillingness or an unlikely ability to change, both individually and as a couple. We can change ourselves, but not our spouses. They must want to change, then change themselves 51 51 Case Study #2 Answers (continued) • Respect. From the choice of adjectives I sense a loss of respect: sophisticated versus primitive, saving versus spending, etc. Perhaps this is to make a point but it causes concern • Leave parents. It seems like one spouse has not left their parents. Financial decisions are between husband and wife, not between spouses and parents. “Therefore shall a man (and woman) leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife” (Genesis 2:24). 52 52 Case Study #2 Answers (continued) • B. Following are a few recommendations that may be helpful for this couple: • Build the relationship. Assume both spouses are trying to do what is best, and that both are trying. Realize that there may be differences of opinion, and that is OK. They should first work to understand, and then seek to be understood • Develop individual and family goals. There appears to be a difference as to the goals of the couple. They should work together to come up with shared individual and family goals, and then work toward these goals 53 53 Case Study #2 Answers (continued) • Build the financial knowledge of the couple and family. One spouse knows more. That is expected. Perhaps that spouse could recommend some reading on the importance of becoming financially self-reliant. There are a number of good articles by the leaders which can help. They could also do some Family Home Evening lessons on personal finance • Resolve family differences. There appears to be a difference in how each was brought up and how they relate to their families. While they cannot control how they were brought up, they can decide how they will do things in their family. And they should do it in the “best interests” of their family 54 54 Case Study #2 Answers (continued) • Improve communication and problem-solving skills. There seems to be concerns in this area. They need to make finances a part of their weekly “companionship interview” where they discuss finances, children, scheduling, goals, etc. • Strengthen testimonies. Finally, they should work to strengthen their testimonies and live according to the gospel of Jesus Christ. They need to work to bring Heavenly Father into the relationship through prayer, scripture study, church attendance, etc. When they are doing what God would have them do, they can have His help. Since families are ordained of God, God will help them resolve their differences and become more like Him 55 55 Case Study #3 • Data • Bill, your best friend and BYU graduate, just got engaged to Emily. He knows you have taken this class on personal finance as you have shared many things with him in the past. He is concerned as in his parent’s marriage, money was a major and divisive issue. He would like to try and minimize these issues in his upcoming marriage. He asks if he and Emily can meet with you to discuss what you consider the most pressing issues about money in marriage. Application • What would tell Bill and Emily are the most pressing issues in money and marriage? What other advice would you give them? 56 56 Case #3 Answers • Following are a few thoughts that might be helpful. Five common problems discussed regarding money and marriage are: • 1. Lack of financial knowledge • Financial knowledge is important to make good decisions. Both Bill and Emily should realize that financial knowledge can be acquired • They must be willing to spend the time learning about key financial topics • In addition, they must realize that financial knowledge by itself is insufficient • Both Bill and Emily must be willing to act on that knowledge to be wiser financial stewards 57 57 Case #3 Answers (continued) • 2. Lack of communication • Relationships require communication to stay healthy • Communication on financial matters is one part of that healthy communication • Bill and Emily need to develop processes to ensure time to communicate effectively in all areas of their lives, including financial areas • They should set aside time each week to discuss financial matters in an atmosphere of love and concern • In order for this marriage to succeed financially, both must be party to and feel they contribute to family financial decisions 58 58 Case #3 Answers (continued) • 3. Differences in financial personality types and family baggage • Bill and Emily were both brought up differently in their families, and this includes how they learned to handle financial matters • While they cannot change how they were brought up, they can decide how they want to handle financial matters in their marriage • They set the framework for their marriage • They can change how they work together • They can have a goal to be equal financial partners and better stewards over the blessings they have and will receive 59 59 Case #3 Answers (continued) • 4. Lack of shared financial goals • It is critical that both Bill and Emily be working toward the same general family and family financial goals • They should set those goals together as spouses and then work on them together • They should write them down • They should set a time each year that they will review their family goals and set new goals • This should be an on-going process—they will achieve what they set their goals to achieve 60 60 Case #3 Answers (continued) • 5. Lack of gospel maturity • Gospel maturity is not just knowing what you should do, but doing it as well. • They need to be committed to the relationship • They need to put each other, and the Lord first in their lives • Help them realize that the more willing they are to do what needs to be done in their relationships and family, the better the marriage will be and the more likely they will be able to achieve their family goals • Remember their most important being to return with their family to Heavenly Father’s presence 61 61