(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/65/49/30 Image Reference:0001 HIS DOCUMENT I S T H E PROPERTY O F HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT Printed for the War Cabinet- March 1945. Copy No. 6 2 SECRET. W.M. (45) 30th Conclusions. WAR CABINET 30 (45). CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the War Cabinet held in the Cabinet War Room on Wednesday, Hth March, 1945, at 12 noon. Present: The Right Hon. WINSTON S. CHURCHILL, M.P., Prime Minister (in the Chair). The Right Hon. C. R. ATTLEE, M.P., The Right Hon. ANTHONY EDEN, M.P., Lord President of the Council. Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. The Right Hon. Sir JOHN ANDERSON, The Right Hon. ERNEST BEVIN, M.P., M.P., Chancellor of the Exchequer. Minister of Labour and National Service. The. Right Hon. OLIVER LYTTELTON, . The Right Hon. HERBERT MORRISON, M.P., Minister of Production. M.P., Secretary of State for the Home" Department and Minister of Home Security. The Right Hon. LORD WOOLTON, " Minister of Reconstruction. ; The following were also present I The Right Hon. VISCOUNT CRANBORNE, The Right Hon. LORD BEAVERBROOK, Lord Privy Seal. Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs. The Right Hon. Sir JAMES GRIGG, The Right Hon. Sir ARCHIBALD SINCLAIR, Bt., M.P., Secretary of M.P., Secretary of State for War. State for Air. The Right Hon. Sir STAFFORD CRIPPS, The Right Hon. R. S. HUDSON, M.P., Minister . of Agriculture and K.C., M.P., Minister of Aircraft Fisheries. Production. The Right Hon. LORD LEATHERS, Colonel the Right Hon. J . J . LLEWELLIN, M.P., Minister of Food, Minister of W Transport. ' The Right Hon. BRENDAN BRACKEN, The Right Hon. RICHARD LAW, M.P., : M.P., Minister of Information. Minister of State. The Right HOn. LORD CHERWELL, Pay­ master-General. a r Secretariat : Mr. Sir Minute No. 1 Food NORMAN BROOK. GILBERT LAITHWAITE. CONTENTS. Subject. Page 186 - World Supply Situation. United Kingdom Stock Levels. Liberated Areas. ' ; Germany . .... , ... .... 189 . Suggested Declaration to the German people. B Food. World Supply Situation. . , 1 -t 1. The War Cabinet had before them— (i) Memoranda by the Minister of Food (W.P. (45) 109, 130 and'158) on the prospective world shortage of food " in1945. ' (ii) A Memorandum by the Minister of War Transport (W.P. (45) 145) on *v proposed Anglo-American survey of the level of United Kingdom stocks of food and raw materials. (iii) Telegrams* which had passed between President Roosevelt and the Prime Minister about the supply of food for liberated; areas in North-West Europe. (iv) A Memorandum by the Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries and the Minister of Food (W.P. (45) 36) on the post-war contribution of British agriculture to the - saving of foreign exchange. The War Cabinet first discussed the prospective general shortage of food supplies. The Minister of Food said that, for the reasons stated in his Memoranda, 1945 would be a critical year for food. Of the chief foods only wheat would be available in abundance; and the diffi­ culties of the supply situation could be illustrated by the position in regard to meat. There was a prospective deficit of 1,800,000 tons between world requirements and supplies of meat. y A ' few weeks ago he had hoped that this deficit could be bridged, in agreement with the United States authorities, by some reduction in-standards of consumption in the United States and some reductionin United Kingdom stocks. The most recent information, however, suggested that the War Food Administration were unwiRing to contemplate any further cuts in United States consumption, and had recom­ mended to the Combined Food Board that during the second quarter of 1945 no meat whatever should be exported from the United States, either for the United Kingdom or for the liberated areas. Points made in discussion were : ­ (d) The Prime Minister said that, in the circumstances disclosed by the Minister of Food, we should defer fulfilment of our recent offer to supply 25,000 tons of corned beef to Russia. (b) Australia and New Zealand were supplying substantial quantities of meat to United States Forces in the Pacific. It was true that the meat supplies which we were now obtaining from the United States were about one-third more than those which they were drawing from the Southern Dominions: but this need hot prevent us from making full use of the argument that, if the United States maintained their view that they could supply no meat to this country in the second quarter of the year, we could not continue to go without the meat supplies which they were now drawing from Australia and New Zealand. ' (c) The United States authorities should be pressed to review their current rates of food consumption both for the Armed Forces and for the civil population. The supplies per head for United States troops were far in excess of British scales. It was estimated that the annual meat supplies for the United States Forces Would provide 450 lbs. per, head as compared with about 300 lbs. for British troops. In terms of calories per day the average figures for total civilian food consumption in the United States was 3,200 as compared with 3,000 for the; civilian population in this country. The Prime Minister, in summing up this part of the discussion, said that at this stage of the war the maintenance of minimum scales of food supply should, if need be, take priority over the needs of military operations. I t was clear that we were facing a situation of grave shortage, which would be aggravated if the Americans * Nos. 710 m4rX12 from President Roosevelt. No. 902 from the Prime Minister^ 187 W.M. 30 (45). failed to make their contribution by an early reduction in.the level of their food; consumption. There were indications that the State Department and the Foreign Economic Administration were dis­ posed to take a different view of this matter from the War Food A*huini tratibn in United States; and it was desirable that an approach should now be made to the United States Government a t the highest level to impress on them the seriousness of the situation and the need for early economies in their levels of food consumption. Discussion then turned on the proposal, which had been put forward at the Crimea Conference, for an Anglo-American enquiry into the level of stocks of food and raw materials in the United Kingdom. The Minister of War Transport said that the position had changed since his memorandum (W.P. (45) 145) was circulated to the War Cabinet. The Americans now recognised that, so far as food was concerned, the problem had become one of supply rather than shipping; and within the last few days a committee had been appointed, in Washington to consider, at a high level, what reductions could be made in current rates of food consumption and to study the food supply situation as a whole. It would also deal with the question of United Kingdom stocks. In these circumstances the Americans were no longer proposing to send a representative to this country to hold a preliminary investigation into United Kingdom stock levels in consultation with the interested Depart­ ments of His Majesty's Government. The Prime Minister said that this change in the situation would affect the arrangements which we should make for co­ operation in this enquiry. As it was now recognised that the problem was mainly one of supply, not of shipping, he thought it would be more appropriate that the matter should be handled by the Minister of Production and the Minister of Food. The most convenient course would be for these two Ministers, possibly accompanied by the Paymaster-General, to pay an early visit to Washington. The War Cabinet then discussed the supply of food-stuffs for liberated areas in North-Western Europe. The Secretary of State for War said that deliveries of civil affairs supplies to North-Western Europe were likely to fall behind schedule. Supplies were already about three weeks late in reaching United States ports for shipment. If shortages developed, they would have to be met either by reducing the ration for these areas or by further inroads into United Kingdom stocks. For June and July a total of 772,000 tons had been allocated, as against total requirements for that period of 1,245,000 tons; and there could be no certainty that even the reduced allocation would be delivered in accordance with schedule. s United Kingdom Stock Levels. (Previous Eeference: '. W.M.(45)15th Conclusions, Minute 4.) Liberated Areas. (Previous Eeference; W.M.(45)29th Conclusions, Minute 3.) In discussion it was pointed out that the estimate of total requirements included substantial provision for the supply of food­ stuffs to Germany; and the suggestion was made that this provision might be reduced. On the other hand, it was emphasised that part of these supplies for Germany were required for feeding Allied nationals who had been transferred into Germany from occupied territories. There was general agreement that it would be impracticable to meet from United Kingdom stocks any substantial part of the deficit between requirements and supplies for liberated areas. Stocks of food-stuffs in this country were nearing the point agreed between ourselves and the Americans as the minimum level required to maintain efficient distribution. Even if we were prepared to accept the risk, of reducing our stocks, say, 10 per cent, below that level, the supplies thus obtained would make no appreciable contribution towards the needs of the liberated areas. I t must be brought home to the United States Government that, unless there [29799-4] B 2 were some reduction in the level of food consumption in the United States, the situation could be met only by reducing supplies for the United States Forces or for the liberated areas. The War Cabinet were reminded that arrangements had been made for a debate to be held in the House of Commons early in the following week on the supply position in the liberated areas. The Lord President of the Council said that, in replying to this debate, he could not give an assurance, as he had hoped to be able to do, that the prospects for supplies over the next few months were reasonably satisfactory if, as the Secretary of State for War had said, we believed that even in this early period supplies from the United States would, in fact, fall behind schedule. Further, it seemed desirable that a clear public warning should be given that serious shortages of food were likely to develop during the summer months. If, however, the Prime Minister was proposing to communicate with President Roosevelt about the food supply position as a whole, it might be inexpedient that a public statement of this kind should be made in the House of Commons until President Roosevelt had had a reasonable opportunity for considering the Prime Ministers communication. It was agreed that the Leader of the House of Commons should explore the possibility of deferring for a few days the forthcoming debate on supplies for liberated areas. The conclusions of the War Cabinet were as follows:—­ (1) The Minister of Production and the Minister of Food should submit, in the light of the discussion, material on which the Prime Minister might base a telegram to President Roosevelt. This, while related to the specific question of meeting S.H.A.E.F.'s requirements for civil affairs supplies in liberated areas, would express the views of His Majesty's Government on the general questions which had been dealt with in the War Cabinets discussion of the prospective world shortage of food. (2) The Minister of Production and the Minister of Food should proceed .to Washington at an early stage to discuss means of meeting the threatened shortage of food; and it should be arranged that these discussions would cover the enquiry into United Kingdom stock levels which had been suggested by the Americans at the Crimea Conference. The Prime Minister would consider whether the Paymaster-General should be associated with these discussions in Washington. The Minister of War Transport could go out at a later stage if shipping questions arose. (3) The Lord President of the Council should take the oppor­ tunity afforded by the forthcoming debate on supplies to liberated areas to make a statement in the House of Commons about the gravity of the food situation generally. (4) The Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries was authorised to communicate' the main facts of the situation to County War Agricultural Executive Committees;, and also to stress the need for maintaining food production in this country in the appeal which he was proposing to make for volunteers to help in this year's harvest. (5) A decision regarding the suggested communication to Dominion Governments of the information contained in W P . (45) 109 should be deferred until a reply had been received to the telegram which the Prime Minister proposed to send to President Roosevelt (conclusion (1) above). Germany. Suggested Declaration .tp the German People. (Previous Reference: W.M.(45)26th Conclusions, Minute 3.) 2. The Prime Minister read out to the War Cabinet the draft of a telegram which he was proposing to send to President Roosevelt on the possibility of issuing a warning to the German people about the effects of continued resistance. The object of this declaration was to make it clear to the German people that prolonged resistance would increase the risk of widespread famine in Germany after their final surrender. The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs had pointed out that such a declaration might increase the risk that the Germans would seek to conserve their existing supplies of food by reducing the rations of prisoners of war and other Allied nationals now in Germany. There was also some danger that,such a declaration might appeaf to imply that, if the Germans surrendered at an early date, the United Nations would see to it that no serious food shortage developed'in Germany. This last point might be met by amending the declaration so as to make it clear that Germany must in any event suffer a very grave food shortage, which would develop into famine conditions if resistance were prolonged. The Prime Minister said that, in sending the draft declaration to President Roosevelt, he would make clear the disadvantages as well as the advantages of issuing such a declaration. Offices of the War Cabinet, S.W. 1, 14th March, 1945. M CIRCULATION ' W.M.(U5) 30TH CONCLUSIONS l h t h March, 19U5 PARLIAMENT. R e f l a t i o n on t h e Prime M i n i s t e r by M r . R . R . S t o k e s , MJ*. THE PRIME MINISTER r e f e r r e d t o the remarks made by Mr. R.R. S t o k e s , M.P. i n t h e c o u r s e o f a speech on t h e p r e v i o u s day i n t h e debate on t h e Army E s t i m a t e s . Mr. S t o k e s had s a i d t h a t the Prime M i n i s t e r and t h e M i n i s t e r of P r o d u c t i o n had c o n s i s t e n t l y " l i e d " t o t h e House about the tank programme. Mr. Speaker, when h i s a t t e n t i o n was c a l l e d t o t h e p o i n t o f order i n v o l v e d , had s a i d t h a t he had not heard t h i s remark, and had added ( i n t h e Prime M i n i s t e r ' s v i e w injudiciously) t h a t he was not s o r r y when Mr. S t o k e s ' speech had come t o an end. T h i s had g i v e n r i s e t o some f u r t h e r p r o t e s t s by Mr. Aneurin Bevan, M.P. The Prime M i n i s t e r s a i d t h a t he was not prepared t o l e t Mr. S t o k e s ' remark p a s s w i t h o u t c h a l l e n g e ; , and he had asked t h e Chief Whip t o enquire when i t would be c o n v e n i e n t t h a t he s h o u l d ' r e f e r t o t h e m a t t e r i n t h e course o f t h a t d a y ' s p r o c e e d i n g s i n t h e House of Commons. L a t e r i n t h e meeting a message was r e c e i v e d from the Chief Whip t o the e f f e c t t h a t i t would be convenient i f t h e Prime M i n i s t e r made h i s s t a t e m e n t immediately a f t e r Q u e s t i o n s t h a t day. The Prime M i n i s t e r i n d i c a t e d t h a t he would make a s t r o n g p r o t e s t and i n v i t e Mr.' S t o k e s ' t o withdraw h i s remarks^ 1^ Other M i n i s t e r s s a i d t h a t t h e y would ­ make a s p e c i a l p o i n t of b e i n g on t h e f r o n t bench a t the time when the Prime M i n i s t e r was p r o p o s i n g t o make h i s statement. ,N0 CIRCULATION W.M. (U5) 30TH CONCLUSIONS. 11+th March, 1945 THE PRIME MINISTER said, t h a t he had seen r e p o r t s o f a s t r i k e among members o f t h e Women's Land Army a s a r e s u l t of t h e d e c i s i o n t h a t t h e y must be e x c l u d e d from t h e arrangements f o r t h e grant o f war g r a t u i t i e s t o members of t h e C i v i l Defence S e r v i c e s . Such a c t i o n was not l i k e l y t o e n l i s t p u b l i c sympathy f o r t h e i r claims. The War Cabinet were informed t h a t t h e numbers i n v o l v e d i n t h i s s t r i k e were v e r y s m a l l . The Prime M i n i s t e r s a i d t h a t he would not e x c l u d e t h e p o s s i b i l i t y o f making some c o n c e s s i o n s t o the Women's Land Army, once t h e p u b l i c i n t e r e s t i n g r a t u i t i e f o r t h e C i v i l D e f e n c e S e r v i c e s had d e c r e a s e d . What he had i n mind were such c o n c e s s i o n s a s a s p e c i a l a l l o w a n c e o f c l o t h i n g coupons on d i s c h a r g e , p e r m i s s i o n t o r e t a i n a r t i c l e s of uniform. and