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over to Sarah Baker. You may begin.
Thank you and good morning and good afternoon everybody. I'm thrilled to be
here for one of the peer learning sizes for sustainable operations. I will be
speaking today part of the time . I in the region three Sustainable
Operations Coordinator. I'll also be speaking with Mark Wiersma it was the
Capital Asset Program Manager in Washington office. I think that that reason
we are here today and the reason we have two engineers of the line about this
is because this is that Nexus were engineering and climate change coordinators
and the green teams all come together. I think this will be exciting. I hope
everybody has lots of questions for us at the end and we will try to leave
plenty of time.
Our topics today, first of all we will talk about first service facility
lingo and categories that are used when talking about energy. There are many
different types of categories of facilities and you have heard many of them.
They are based on the reason for the category, for instance the prior aviation
and other versus recreation buildings or maintenance levels or office versus
warehouse. So energy is used conservation sustainable operations a world as
categories for these facilities also if they could be confusing. Dark will
explain these 2S. They will talk about the requirements and the legal
requirements for doing the things that we're doing right now with facilities.
We will talk about evaluations versus assessments. What those are and when
they are required and how they are done. And talk about the climate change
scorecard connection. I will do that part. How we make our buildings more
sustainable. More specifically, energy and water efficiency and conservation
measures. And we will talk about where the green. Meant comes in -procurement comes in. With that mark I will start you off and you can take it
away.
Hello everybody this is Mark. The first thing I want to talk about is the
categories that Sarah mentioned. We want to categorize buildings for basically
two-line our building types with the mandates and executive orders. Carbon
buildings which means that they are covered under EISA and these are defined
by USDA has to identify Department of Agriculture as a whole has to identify
the top 75% buildings energy using buildings for the first service that is
about 100 buildings in our inventory. But overall for the Department of
Agriculture we are identified 75% of the total energy use these buildings have
been identified. And these are owned or with the forest service pays utilities
directly. So that is important. Let's talk about another category which is
high-performance and sustainable buildings. This comes from the Executive
Order where we are measuring sustainability and these buildings are defined by
buildings that have to be larger than 5000 gross square feet so they are
bigger than 5000 ft.&#²; or if they are they building like a storage building
without occupants if they have large energy use defined by any building over
45,000 BTUs per square foot annually we put those into the category of highperformance sustainable buildings. We have about 815 of those. These can be
owned or leased. But covered buildings -- the 100 covered buildings that are
in the Forrester -- service inventory are included in the high-performance
buildings.
If you look at this graphic this graphic shows all 40,000 buildings in the
forest service inventory. And their inventory has a lot of buildings such as
we have over 17,000 really buildings -- over 100 research buildings, 6700
what -- wrecked buildings and 15,000 admin buildings. So our focus we want to
focus on the buildings that make the biggest difference. Because we have
limited resources put capital and human resources, we want to focus our
attention on the ones that make the biggest bang for the buck ergo so as you
see here we want to look at that covered buildings and the high-performance
buildings. And though it seems like a low amount of buildings, when you look
at the next graphic where we look at energy use , we are actually talking
about well over 50% of our energy use from our buildings are in these covered
in high-performance eligible buildings. You can see why we are focusing our
attention on those first.
I want to back up and talk about the rules and the mandates of where these
come from. These are just the key federal mandates and executive orders that
involve energy and sustainability. The first one is the energy Independence
and security act of 2007 called Isa. This requires us to reduce our building
intensity by 3% annually from 2003 through 2015 fraternal energy reduction of
30%. And Executive Order. It's interesting that the law here does not discuss
water use but the Executive Order 13514 does and that Executive Order requires
us to do our water consumption 2% annually. This is possible water
consumption. 2000 money. Or 26% from the 2007 baseline. >> High-performance
sustainable buildings. These are defined again by the executive orders 13423
and 13514. This is from the Bush administration and the Obama administration
so it is not a Democratic or Republican thing. It's a thing that needs to be
done. This order requires us to have 15% of our existing inventory meeting
the guiding principles. By 2015. And I will talk about that and principles of
the next slide. But it also requires us for all new building designs and
construction whether it's new construction for new buildings or major
renovation of existing buildings -- requires us to design and construct to
complied with these been supposed. And as I said earlier at the guiding
principles apply to all existing facilities that are larger -- that we own
and lease that are greater than 5000 gross square feet. And I think I might
have a type of graph -- a typo in my slide where I say less than. It is
greater than. The Executive Order is also require as to make annual progress
towards 100% compliance. So even though we have a 15% by 2015, the process
doesn't stop there but we're supposed to try to get to 100% compliance. And
then these executive orders also requires to submit a multiyear strategic
sustainability performance plan -- SSP be and that is completed by the
department with our imports from the different agencies.
Let's talk about the guiding principles. They come about from a 2006
memorandum of understanding called the federal leadership in high-performance
and sustainability in memorandum. This was signed by the key branches of the
executives grant -- branch, the key agencies of the executive branch, it should
a commitment to designing and locating and construction and maintaining an
operating facilities in an energy efficient and sustainable manner. The girls
are of course to reduce total ownership costs of facilities. We want to
improve efficiency and water conservation. But it goes beyond just the energy
of. It talks about providing safe help them productive build environments and
sustainable environmental stewardship.
The memorandum collaboratively seeks to establish the following comments that
a sustainable guiding principles. To employ integrated design principles, that
means have to work together. It's not just an engineering thing. It is the
build and occupants and the maintenance and the engineering. We want to
optimize energy performance. That goes along with the ESA 2011 laws that
impacted 2005 loss. Want to protect and conserve water. Both environmentally
and of course the use of the consumption of water. We want to enhance indoor
environmental quality and a good places that are well ventilated and normally
comfortable and are good places to work and where people can be productive. We
need to reduce environmental impact of materials so we don't have the OCs and
ozone depleting greenhouse gas creating gases. We want to reduce those.
This next chunk here shows basically some of the requirements that are
specific to the executive orders and the laws. Again we had to talk about the
facility types, covered in high-performance. And covered buildings require a
comprehensive energy and water evaluation every four years. This is right out
of the EISA block. The initial deadline, that first initial per year expires,
is due 30th 2012. So we have to have 100 buildings that are covered buildings
list evaluated by June 30, 2012. For the high-performance and sustainability
buildings, this assessment can be done every five years of course if you are
building -- if you're building is not termed to be high-performance a
sustainable and I will talk about that and how we determine whether it is or
not , then certainly you can assess it every year. But once the building has
been verified you -- to comply with the guiding principles that can be assumed
to be compliant for up to five years for reporting purposes. It has a shelf
life of five years so you don't have to key -- keep on reassessing a building
that used to have assessed last year. The reporting date for the forest
service is the end of the fiscal year. So that gives us time to upload these
data into Infra and out of date of the federal property profile that GSA
maintains. That is how the government track progress towards these highperformance sustainable building goals. I also want to point out that every
facility requires a condition survey and I want to point out these shelf lives
would be commissioned survey and the assessments are five years. So it makes
sense with limited human resources that we -- when we do a condition
assessment -- a survey that we do our assessments at the same time.
Evaluation versus assessment. Evaluation is basically requires -- there is a
level ever but banana valuation which is again what we are looking for is
energy assessments which is an overall look at a building. Evaluations require
days to complete typically. The gold for an evaluation is to ultimately
reduce energy and water consumption by identifying projects called basically
efficiency conservation measures. A lot of these often involve capital
improvement projects meaning we are fixing our building envelope for the
Windows or tours or HPC systems. It often involves construction problem -projects and you have to be trained to do in a valuation and evaluations take
a while to do. That is why the 100 buildings we do evaluate sound like a small
number but it's a lot of man-hours. High-performance assessments typically
require hours to complete assuming you know the process and have the data
available. And the purpose of the assessment is more focused on
sustainability and more focused on the operations of your building. How do you
operate the building. Versus the actual physical condition of the building.
And of course the high-performance assessments can be used to help identify
future projects. The first service complete assessments -- the USDA
environmental management division developed a criteria for assessing existing
buildings again for the principles. So we are working in conjunction with the
Department of Agriculture and then use the same system. If the system similar
to lead to. There are 92 points. And when you do assessment if you score -get a score of 42 or higher you are considered to be deemed sustainable.
This next graphic shows the most recent results from FY 11. So there's
buildings. Right now we have 135 back and say yes, they do meet the
sustainability as defined by the world that USDA put together.
So that shows that about
I will turn it back
815
16.6% currently.
to Sarah.
I guess I better take the meat off them. You guys to know if that market I are
doing a synchronized dance but you can't see us. We will talk about when the
climate change scorecard -- could charge turns into this. These items we're
looking at an energy and water and this is the energy items are the ones that
specifically tie into where we are meeting the law and what we've talked about
here so far. And some of the stuff we will talk about later. There are other
climate change scorecard items that fit in with energy and water conservation
and the results of these audits and assessments -- evaluations and
assessments. But these are the ones that specifically tied to those. So if you
look at these you will see first of all exactly what talked about. Hatcher
unit than the comprehensive evaluation of the covered facilities. Once you
done those, you could yes on this item. If you don't have covered facilities
on this item, then you have completed your evaluations. The second part of
this, number three, as when we are talking about implementing these
evaluations were these evaluation results. Have you implemented those? Once
implemented you have a guess, and if you haven't done that you have only
identified the things you need to do but you haven't started doing them. It's
important that we look at implementation here. One thing to point out -- the
term I energy buildings -- this is not a legal term. This is a term we came
up with in putting together the climate change scorecard items because not
everybody and district out there and forest has lots of HBS buildings or
covered buildings. But you still have buildings where you are using a lot of
energy. If you have an office building that is 4900 ft.&#²;, it doesn't -it's not eligible to be high-performance sustainable but you still may be
consuming a lot of energy and water so we want to look at those and put those
on the list. These are the buildings that you would identify when you do your
utility bill cleanup. The utility bill cleanup is an action item number one
under energy and you will see it here. When she done that you have identified
your high energy buildings. Those ones you can work on. Once you've identified
energy conservation measures or energy efficiency and conservation measures,
then you implement them. The implementation part this is what ties together
the action and the surveys and the assessments. So the last one, never six.
Asks if you have installed to energy efficiency and early 75% of what you're
buildings. This doesn't have to be something major that's being done to her
engineering. It could be. But we are also talking about relatively low cost of
things. One on the list is smart strips. If you haven't looked at smart strips
yet we will talk about the more later on in this presentation. They are
efficient measures and they are inexpensive. Their -- there are two things
you want to do that you could do it all you're buildings and do those. Once
you've done that you get to yes on this climate change scorecard item. Same
thing for the water. This is not all that water items but the ones that
specifically apply to what we are doing with engineering. Again we are looking
at the first one is evaluation. Have you done those evaluations for your
covered facility. The second is have you implement what you sow. That is a big
thing again. But we are talking about what these particular items is pulling
in the regulations and what engineering needs to be doing and looking at are
we doing them. Ascending again with number eight. Those energy -- water
saving technologies. Don't have to be expensive once. They can be are you
putting low flow shower heads on your showers and have you put in air Raiders
owner process. That
of water.
is something relatively simple that
could save quite a bit
What is this mean for all of you who are out there on the call? This is the
exciting part because this is where everything is coming together. Or
engineer specifically facility engineers and energy managers, this is what we
are already doing. This is how we should be doing. For the Green team this is
where you get to tie into the process. If you are looking annual green team
to do things to tie that in and you will get help from engineering and
climate change coordinators. This is it. This is where you can help make a
real difference on conserving. And the climate change coordinators -- climate
change action items. This is the staff that you can now go to engineering and
to your green team and say have we done these. Where are we in the process.
You know what to talk to. Frontline officers out there we hope you this will
help you prioritize because this is the stuff we have to do but it is also
the stuff that will give us some real results. And that is pretty exciting.
If we talk about how we make our buildings more sustainable and -- in a
general way, one thing to point out and Mark and I hadn't meant -- mentioned
it yet but the national renewable energy Lab is helping is trained and energy
managers -- regional and forest energy managers across the country. Some of
this information comes from their training. This is one. We look at a
traditional approach for how to make our buildings more sustainable and we
used to think along the lines of what do we install. What are we going to
change. We're looking at engineering alternatives and solutions. And that
works well up to a point. The problem is that humans and general resist
change. We don't feel comfortable in general would change. So we will find
workarounds put out -- whatever you put in. We have seen is especially in the
Forest Service. We're so good at workarounds. You give us something we don't
know to how to use and you don't train is, we will find a way to get past
it. That is what is happened with the traditional approach to making buildings
more sustainable. We know we have to combine our behavior changes and our
engineering solutions in order to see program saving. And that program
savings idling just dollars. I mean greenhouse gas savings also. When you are
putting your action plans together for your green teams and/or climate change
scorecard getting to yes action items, think about how you do both of these.
And the climate change scorecard has a lot of behavior change items on it. So
big about how you do those both. I'm going to turn this back over to Mark.
>> We will talk more about what can we do to our buildings to make the more
energy and water efficient. This graph is an overall graph. I think we took
this from the Department of Energy as well. But it basically shows the
breakdown of energy use of a typical office building in a residential
building. And you can see from the graphic and we will talk about this more
in detail in the next slide, but you can see the heating ventilation and air
conditioning of a typical office building using around 39% of the total
energy consumed by the building. Lighting 29%, equipment 16%, water heating
9%, so again you always want to focus your attention first on the big hitters
so these are the areas where you can make the biggest bang for the buck.
For HVAC systems for residency -- residences of 42% of total energy used and
office space, 39%. Things we consider when you look at eight HVAC system our
the system efficiencies. Systems are becoming more efficient as measured by
the energy-efficient ratio and seasonal efficient ratio. Those are the
measurements of how efficient the building is. Maintenance practices have the
big impact on how you're HVAC systems work. Value changing filters , that
sort of thing. If you don't change the filters that you were not pushing Aaron
if you are not engineer then you are not conditioning this basis. Controls --
the thermostat set points. You set your thermostat in the winter it has eight
impact on how much energy you use as we all know from our own residences. I
was looking up a recent GSA study that said if you raise your SetPoint for
every 2&#°; over 72&#°;F you can reduce your AC energy usage by 4%. That's a
pretty significant number. And fed back thermostats are also important. What
happens when everyone leaves their office at night purko are we still
conditioning the space to 72&#°; or do we set it back automatically or do
somebody turn the thermostat back to a warmer color setting depending on
summer or winter. So you save energy. The building envelope has a big impact
as well. Insulation and windows etc. >> What can we do? We can install new
and more efficient systems. Where we can test and balance existing systems
meaning we can go back and have a professional look at the system and make
sure it is conditioning the way it was supposed to, motors are working within
their parameters, heiress flowing to the right places at the right volume that
the air is being pulled to the right temperatures. We can certainly
maintenance as a big factor on this and we can make sure our air filters are
changed. If they are not change that means you are not conditioning the air
properly and pushing it -- pushing enough air that you need. And you're not
going to space efficiently. You can install programmable thermostats. You can
make the improvements to your -- the envelope -- Windows can be changed
toward tourist can be changed. But you don't have to go to that level of
detail. In you can look at feeling leaks and talking in your Windows and the
drawers. Are they sealed the. Do have the worst weeks. Can you feel leakage
around what is the drawers. Those kinds of things can -- can help prolong way
into make your systems more efficient. That you want to make a statement that
make sure if you were to make any improvements that you contact your facility
engineer prior to any building modifications. They need to see what goes on.
Because of different codes and whatnot. So please contact your facility
engineer should you want to make modifications.
I wanted to jump in with one point while we were talking about HVAC systems
and before we get into lighting. Remember that you really need to take a
systems approach to your building upgrades to your building modifications into
your construction. It's really important not to forget that there are other
pieces when you are focusing on your HVAC system, you're looking just at HVAC
and maybe you're missing the big picture. You should consider some of the
newer technology or is -- technologies and some older technologies. The
pictures here is the top of the Whitten building in DC where they put in a
green roof. The green roof is really an interesting concept and something we
can do in some of our older buildings especially when an urban settings. This
helps cut down on the urban heat island effect. It will do things like manage
your storm water runoff and help improve air quality. If you have it set up
where you can have people out walking on this as we have in some larger
buildings that you provided green space for your employees. Which we know make
the workspace better in general. Green roots although not cheap it is
something we can consider especially when we are building new buildings. Also
don't forget that any power or electricity you produce on-site doesn't count
against you in your energy use. And accounts for us in our goals to meet
production of renewable energy. It doesn't have to be PD but that is one of
the confidence we can look at. And the last picture on the bottom right that I
included with something else to think about. Both in construction and in
renovation. We have the basic concepts like providing trees that gives us
shade of the building will reduce the need for air conditioning. When you are
wasting your building or upgrading or building, landscaping isn't always
something that is to make it pretty and we need to remember that when we
start shopping out the cost of contracts. We can use landscaping is a way to
reduce our energy requirements. I want to encourage everybody to look at
whole picture when you're talking about this.
the
Good point, Sarah. Even though they building may use renewable energy, does
not -- it you still have to make every effort to make the building as
efficient as possible. So you can't include enough window -- renewable energy
to overcome an efficient use building.
The next biggest user of energy is lighting systems. 29% typical of an office
11% for home. And I guess 25% of the total electricity used at our
electricity use is in lighting in the federal sector. So it's a significant
number. So from general saving strategies include natural lighting where
available. Mother nature provides a lot of fun. So use it where you can.
Appropriate lighting levels. Here's a case where you may be use of task
lighting or whatnot to bring appropriate levels to a task area like an office
or a desk area. Were you might be too bright in an office that you can reduce
the lighting to a different level and save energy. There are certainly
efficient lighting types that we will talk about. And the use of motion
sensor controls also is a good saving strategy where obviously the room is
occupied there is no reason to have the lights on. So the room sensors can
shut the lights off automatically when you forget to flip the switch. It's
been reported that they can save as much as 25% of the energy used for
lighting.
I want to jump in if you don't mind. The picture we included here is the
history commission building in Scotland and the reason I included this was
because they are using their natural lighting to a huge extent in this
building and there are in Scotland where they don't have a lot of sunlight
into building. They're focused on passive solar supplement heating and it
works so well that they are using very little other heating system. So if they
can do it there, I know we can do it here. I wanted to share that.
The good points for the engineers at their we're designing new buildings, the
need to make sure they cite it appropriate where you could take the advantage
does take the most advantage of the existing sunlight provided available.
Whether it be daylight or passive solar heat gain let's take advantage of
those. That is why it is so important for us to cite our buildings
appropriately.
Some efficient energy light types are fluorescent lights and electronic
ballasts. Compact fluorescent lights. Light emitting diodes. Occupancy
sensors. You can't forget -- if you remember to turn up the lights went -lights which put on a sensor in it will do it for you. Please contact your
facilities engineer or energy manager to view live expenses because they have
been trained and they know how to review existing systems and suggest ways to
improve this.
Water heating. I believe -- it takes up a lot of energy. Percent of
residency energy goes into heating water and 9% for offices. So some simple
ways to -- first one is simple. You can insulate your hot water tank if you
have a hot water tank. Maybe it's better not to have a hot water tank and have
something like a tank was water heater like a shown in the picture below where
you don't actually heat water and keep it stored. You heat as needed purko
that could be a valuable solution.
The last thing we want to talk about for energy ECMs our appliances and
electronic and office equipment. 70% of the energy used in office spaces goes
to the type of equipment. Who want to use of course pick out -- when
repurchase electronic equipment we want to produce -- purchase the most
efficient office equipment and appliances and we will talk about that in the
slides to come.
We want to put out -- use the proper settings on our office equipment and we
can use some latest technology are called Smart strips or turn it off
programs. You haven't occupancy sensor and if there is no motion, then the
power strip turns off. There may also could turn it off programs which we
will hear about later. Very effective. Certainly effective in putting out one
of the keys to energy and that is awareness. So everybody is responsible.
I want to share with you that I recently put a smart strip into my office
space where I put in my monitor and my computer and my task lighting. I am
personally pretty good at turning off my monitor when I leave my space and
turning things off. What I found was once I put on the smart strip, I cut
down my energy use in the office space by 25%. And Mike Hooker was not as
good at turning soft, we're using half. So what to encourage these. They are
inexpensive and work well.
We would talk about water ECMs and this is the water used that way down for
the average office and residential unit. If you'll notice it is -- some of it
is obvious that the sanitary use in the office spaces is what we consider
toilets and sinks and the restroom. It is 40% of the water reuse. There is
only a certain amount we can cut down on this but there are things we can do.
One big piece on both of these -- the residential and the office -- is the
outdoor water use. That is a big piece we can change quickly. And then also we
are looking at and residential we are looking at leaks. We don't have data
for leaks in the office setting. For the water systems were available to us
but we know that nationally we're talking about a 14% water loss in our water
systems on average because of weeks. That's another easy one and it's not
cheap but it is one we should be addressing. Recently we average water use in
residences as gone up to around 100 gallons per person. It was lower before
and in some cases it's higher. Office space is sometimes about 30 gallons per
person. About a significant amount of water we can say. We look at water ECMs
at the big picture. I've had this -- interesting phenomena for me because I
live in the South West and we are focused on how much water reuse. We don't
have enough of that. But when I talk to people in other regions where water
is everywhere, they're asking me why this is a big deal. It's not as we talked
about -- not so much the water, if the energy savings and also your saving
resources when you'd get less water and pump less water and move less water.
So think about energy Tidewater. That is why this is such a big deal. But
some of us it is also a big deal because we're talking about autofire
depletion and river depletion and sources of contamination when it could
water and when you treat wastewater. So we are talking about the big picture
look when we look at the water ECMs. That is efficiency and conservation
measures. The water ECMs the first thing I think we've may be looking at
especially in our facilities is look at the outdoor use. We have irrigation,
which is something we don't necessarily want to get rid of but maybe we want
to use a bit as efficiently as possible. Landscaping offices in such a way to
reduce water use. For those in the Southwest it is zero skipping. It is
place specific. We can cut down water use of the outdoors. We have some
interesting uses specifically in the foreign service for things like washing
out our firefighting water hoses. So we have to look at what we can do maybe
to recycle water and reuse water or generally to cut down. At fixing the
leagues is a big deal. It's not hard to tell if your system is leaking . It
sometimes is difficult to find that link. But with the help of your engineer
you ought to be able to do this and hopefully save us a lot of water and a
lot of energy. If you look at water efficient fixtures we are talking about
things like toilets and bosses and showers and also don't forget the clothes
washers of the dishwashers in your residences. Does use a lot of water.
Clothes washing is a big piece of the water used for residences. So we need to
make sure we are getting to you water sensor products. But there are other
things you can do and I included this particular picture because it's a very
odd looking toilet that I found out of Australia where the water flows into
the tank -- after you flush the toilet, water flows in. This will fill up so
you can wash their hands while the water is filling up the tank. Two uses on
that once was water. That is something we need to think about as water were
used especially when building. We can do some really exciting things with
water reuse.
Or to share with you -- those of you who are not part of the western
collective effort of this and even those -- the western collective this year
sent out what we call the top 10 letter . If the 10 activities that every unit
can do in the western collective tunic a huge difference in saving millions of
dollars in both water, energy, and waste and materials. But these are just
the first five of those 10 items. These are the first that relate directly to
what we're talking about today. And they also rate -- relate directly to the
climate change scorecard. We had the climate changes work hard work items
listed on slide. If you will see the first one talking about is the utility
cleanup. This has been identified for us as a major thing every unit needs to
do in order to get that baseline use information and you can't really tell if
you are improving if you don't have your baseline identified. We have found
unit savings in the range of 25 or $30,000 a year just by doing this cleanup.
And looking at the utility bills. We're also talking about this energy
efficient technologies we mentioned earlier. Don't have to be expensive but
there are there. And then the energy and the water use awareness part of
this. This is what we will be talking about in the case study later today.
Shutting off the lights and computers at night purko --. The real behavior
pieces of the pie. >> Market?
Had to repurchase efficiency? There are two sources. Energy Star is a program
within the US Environmental Protection Agency and they provide a list of
products that are energy Star products. And right there is the website. If
you go to that website it will list which products meet energy Star
requirements. Of course not all products are energy Star products. Some of
them are not energy Star. A lot of them may be brewing systems. There are not
necessarily enter -- energy Star. At the MP -- FEMP has a website that is
showing than on system performance requirements processes within your
building. And there is a web link to that as well.
Is important to note that under federal law, federal agencies are required
under the national energy conservation policy act which was many years ago and
under executive orders and the Federal acquisition regulation subpart 23.2.
To buy energy Star qualified products were and categories not included in
energy Star program, that use FEMP products. Those are the two categories.
When you want to buy new products eager to energy Star and if they don't have
a product for you then you start to use FEMP designated products. This chart
shows you at the bottom part there is actually be covered product categories
under the energy Star and then the program. When you click on it will go to
the website and it's a FEMP website. They list specifically by covered
products whether your product is going to be covered hundred -- under any
energy Star or under the FEMP designated category. Under the first category
therefore space heating and cooling, boilers are not energy Star products so
they don't have an energy Star rating. So you would go to FEMP categories and
they would give you the performance specification. Central air conditioners
on the other hand are energy Star products so you would necessarily have to
write a performance specification, but you can get a list of actual energy
Star products from the energy Star website. >> If you are purchasing
electronics you want to produce low standby power products. And under the ESA
require agencies to purchase products with a standby power level of 1 W or
less. It is the power consumed a byproduct win at its lowest power consuming
mode. Typically when the product is the sophomore nonperforming its primary
function. So we always talk about how your VCR or whatever electronic
equipment even though it's not in use is still using energy. That is true and
what they have done here is under the low standby program they list to you if
the federal government is going to purchase new equipment you have to purchase
the equipment that defaults under this one water less category. That's a
website I showed earlier will show you for electronic -- down the website
where you can find these purchasing specifications and whatnot.
I'd like to add it here too that this is part of the role of the green teams
and the employees in general is that once we purchased this electronic that
have low standby power and their energy Star, then we have to use them
correctly. This is where you were comes in to change the modified behavior is
a beauty to figure out how to help your people use the settings correctly. We
always find ways to change this. I want to encourage people to do that. The
last weeks -- of the purchasing is the water efficiency as we talked about
earlier. It includes when you're looking at water appliances that there are
purchased -- that they rate as water cents for the EPA rating. This is
specifically explained other water cents page and they give you the product
list and the ways to purchase it. It's good information and I hope you will be
able to use these links in the future if you can get a copy here we will more
than gladly provide a copy of all of us. >> I will introduce the next topic
and our guest speakers.
We have a guest speaker today, The [ Indiscernible ] that talks about climate
change energy number 11 which is shut off lights and computers at night purko
the action item acid is a unit have a shut off lights and computers at night
policy with a designated person to monitor unit compliance. He is the engineer
in the Intermountain region and they have implemented a policy and so she will
be talking today about how they went about doing this.
Thank you Katie. I work in the regional office in Austin Utah and I'm not a
very active member of the Green team that every once in a while I participate.
And so wanted to share about how we thought about asking people to shut down
their computers each night purko we didn't focus on lights because we assume
that people were turning those off already and now that I'm picky about it we
probably should not have made that assumption. In the regional office we know
it's getting done because if we forget the cleaning staff turns those off.
But we are focused on computers for this. Here is the background. On why we
decided to come up with this policy. It was on the heels of the power it down
day which I think was August purko in the first service was celebrating of
agenda she was saved over a weekend and I was appreciated by people's efforts
to provide off and get it advertised and to spread the word on energy savings.
But I was also a taking -- taken aback because it didn't occur to me to not
shut down my computer each night purko and so sometimes I'm a glass half-empty
kind of person of some of instead of getting excited about hundred -- days of
energy savings I was wondering we are wasting a lot of energy. Those other 363
days of the year. So we [ Indiscernible ] was a member of our Green team.
Can we implement a power down policy and do this all the time purko he said
go ahead and we didn't think we were going out on a limb. We were going -- to
work in a federal building and I ran into Iran's staff in Social Security
staff every once in a while and they say of course the shed on our computers
every night purko is a policy. We get in trouble if we don't. >> Going down
this path we wanted to make sure we had certain information. And for all
their employees. In our case that meant conducting a small pilot study and
running congratulations of making sure we have that available to share with
the employees. Making sure we could address our concerns. We knew that
certain questions were going to come up and we wanted to put those into a
frequently asked question she. And then we went ahead and wrote the policy
and distributed along with the frequently asked questions.
The first thing we did -- we wanted to know that's powering down really make
a difference. Is it making a difference? We want to have this -- I wanted to
satisfy my own curiosity and be able to answer questions. The first thing I
did -- I did not intend to embark on a pilot study. I thought I could get this
information from an Internet search. But offended ton of stuff but nothing I
could really re-create or translate to meet our needs. So for example -- the
Washington office had good information. I found another information. From a
software company. They estimated in the U.S. that we are wasting $2.8 billion
a year by leaving our computers on. Overnight. And Ford Motor Company decided
to implement [ Indiscernible ] to automatically shut down people's computers
every night purko everything is put into a central system and everybody's
computer gets turned off every night unless they are there to override it.
They are expecting to say $100 million. Per year. I thought that was powerful
information but again I could not translate what that would mean to us. What
they have found from the city of Cambridge Massachusetts -- what they had a
power down policy and a back seat and estimated they would save $65 per year.
For each computer and monitor. But I couldn't find underlying data on that
and I wanted that. So if anyone on this call have any information that you
could use I would appreciate getting this. We could put it on our website
also. Somewhat -- let's embark on -- an overstatement: a study. I got a smart
strip and a kilowatt and for Mike computer and monitor. Over three weeks I
left the computer on per week and power down per week. And my coworker
repeated the experiment over a period of a couple weeks to see that data
would be duplicated and it was. So I took that and tabulated the data and
reported on our website and refer to it in our frequently asked questions. I
would say that I purposely did not include the cost savings in that because it
was kind of an impressive. So I would tell you that because of the one hand
it's good testimony to our energy Star computers but my estimate was that we
would save just for my computer 133 kWh per year by shutting down versus
logging off. For us, that is only a little over nine dollars a year at seven
cents a kilowatt hour purko in this office we only pay three cents a kilowatt
hour purko so it only comes to four dollars a year. I didn't include that
because I didn't want it to be a deterrent to people to turn off computers.
So instead what I did was I equated it -- the savings to leaving on a 60 W
lightbulb. So according to my calculations if I turn off my computer instead
of log off then I will save enough energy to keep the light bulb burning for
three months a year. 24 hours a day. If I unplug or turn off my smart strip,
then I will save enough energy to power light bulbs for another month. So
the reason I put it in those terms because I figured people might not care
about the dollar amount that they can see if I had a lightbulb on I would
turn it off. You have to be a spreadsheet weirdo to look at the stuff that if
anybody does, it is at the link at the bottom of the screen. I think my
numbers are on track because of the Department of Energy guy was here last
week giving some training to the energy managers and he plugged his laptop
into the smart strip purko he estimated we would save nine dollars a year by
shutting the soft. And I probably should've mentioned that the spreadsheet
that desktops to draw more power. A lot of us are on laptops now and that is
what my computer is. For people with desktops they can save more energy. >>
I will let you guys read this later if you have a chance. We got together the
frequently asked questions for people. People say will it hurt my computer and
will last as long if I turn it off every day. I found information to send
people to and computers these days do not need to be left on. You can turn
them down every night purko it shouldn't be a problem. We did tell people is
the weekly virus scan causes problems, leave your computer on. That day. The
other thing is this thing takes so long and so our suggestion is pretty much
do distract yourself with other things. If anybody had an opportunity to see
the sustainability of the greater Yellowstone ecosystem video that was shown
during a sustainable operation some at and also in YouTube, this was a topic
in their and of course you come in and you turn your computer on and you take
your code often log into the first screen and you grab your coffee and log
into the second screen and that was an important thing for the -- to be
included in the video. For a -- first supervisor can deal with that minor
distraction -- we can do it also. >> Something we should've added to our
frequently asked questions was this is not the biggest energy savings. Like
Mark and Sarah talked about, most of the energy in buildings going to HVAC is
something easy. We try to put that in our letter. This is the right thing to
do kind of thing and why we're not using. We quoted some of this information
rediscovered from our little experiment. Basically because my -- your at work
nor that -- more than not it were. Reduced prices much energy if we leave the
computer on versus logging off. And then again if we did that to how much
that would mean in terms leaving the lightbulb on basically. We do not
monitor people at least not here in the our own. But -- we will try to get
our daffodil -- Debbie regional forest percent Tuesday to make this a priority
among staff. What they say and what they don't say is important. And so I
know that at least amongst my staff we turn our computers off. And so I'm not
super certain what the other staffs are doing. It comes down to sometimes a
little bit of leadership helped in that regard. We appreciate our regional
Forester signing that letter and getting the word out.
I will wrap
it up.
Thanks Kathy. That was
great information.
I want to remind you of upcoming sustainable operation learning opportunities.
The first is open mic on March 21 at 10 AM Pacific time. They will be talking
about water footprint area and tourist abroad -- when Robin. The next one is
April 2 at 10 AM Pacific. We will be getting -- continuing to talk about the
ins and outs of facilities to sustainability. Different units will be sharing
their experiences implementing -- implementing those measures. >> With that,
I will open it up for questions. For either Mark or Sarah or Kathy. Press star
one on your phone and the operator will I need your line so you can ask your
question. >>
While waiting I did want to put in a plug about the cost savings that We
talked about. Her computer that saved nine dollars a year. I believe every
forest service employee turn off the computer every night it adds up
quickly.
We have a question from [ Indiscernible
].
This is a question for The. Just this year we implemented a reoccurring power
I T. across all regions. The third weekend of every month. And we [
Indiscernible ] as opposed to it every night policy although it really do
with think that is where we are headed because we were able to work with TI
oh and [ Indiscernible ]. So nothing would ever be pushed on that power I T.
we can't which limits the startup time of the following Monday. So wanted to
share that as a suggestion. But also had a question. About feedback I
received every week and we have done this. We just some of the pieces of
criticism saying are you aware of the energy required for computer start up.
And are you aware that because of the energy required, your energy savings
are less than estimated. I have never heard of that before. And I wasn't sure
how to address it so I didn't know if Kathy -- was that part of the their
ears that you identified in your document or have you heard that? The Mac we
have not. But I do think I had come across that. A lot of Internet research
actually. And that was -- I think that was one of the midst of this whole
show your computer down. It wasn't taking enough energy to start up the
computer to make it not beneficial. Is still beneficial to turn the computer
off. In turn it back on. And I use the kilowatt so I was getting total energy
consumption. So what I presented was real data as opposed to a reported energy
draw for distributed by the computer manufacturer. I will do some digging
though and see if I can find anything in my files here that adjust that
question specifically and I wasn't there at she has come across that.
I think you're probably right that that is part of that urban myth thing.
There is a startup -- always a startup drove with any electronics but I also
use the kilowatt meter to measure the change and it definitely was a real-time
consumption change and a reduction by using the turning it off idea and in my
case was a smart strip.
So we could share that easily. I have a number. I put the numbers in a
spreadsheet because I'm an engineer and I love numbers.
We can share those and if you
would be great.
would like to share them with other
people that
I would really appreciate being able to provide a factual response. That is
great. And then I had a question about the policies that were written. Is
there a way that could be posted on the SharePoint site with the slides for
this webinar? That others can refer to later?
Impacted the slides down in the
on our website.
right-hand corner is the link to
where it is
Great. And final couple of things I want to emphasize. One, for those who are
trying to track this using meter readings versus kilowatt at their desk, we
found that an additional benefit of this power event was that units [
Indiscernible ]. That many thought they knew how to win past with monitoring
it to this purpose, had to take a second look and develop a very overview on
how to read electric and gas meters. That is an additional benefit that we
think of as we started to pilot. And also one of the things that keeps coming
up is emphasize the safety associated with this. We had people crawling under
desks and moving equipment to get to outlets, there is a safety component and
so we've included that in every piece of messaging. Just to coincide with
national safety.
We sort of address that and not really using the safety work but saying please
turn off your computer and if you can if it's easy for you then unplug or
turn off your smart strip. So it is easily accessible to user do that please
do.
But that did come off -- the last big event that we had -- that annual event
with the union got involved. It would not have occurred to me if someone else
had not brought that up.
Thanks for sharing that. >> You mentioned the instructions about meter
reading. What that is finalized, is that something that would be okay to post
on the SharePoint site?
Absolutely. I can e-mail it to
Next question is from [
you today.
Indiscernible ].
Hi Kathy. This is region eight. I have just two part question The. Part one
question is about the policy. I missed some of your presentations because I
joined late. Is that up a lot of iPhone to remind me of meeting but it was
on mute. I missed part of it. About policy. If you can answer that question.
Are you talking about sending a letter because to me policies like what new we
incorporate in arm manuals and handbooks. And so how are we handling all those
questions that require policy including this one?
You're a stickler and I appreciate that and some of that I will punt is there
in terms of what is that scorecard with a set policy for us it is a letter so
it is definitely -- we didn't do a manual supplement as I don't have the
patience for that. We sent it out and said do this. I'm hoping that people
interpreted as policy.
I was wondering what was the literal interpretation
policy or are we better saying do have a practice.
of that. What you mean by
We didn't use the term policy in the latter. But I think if you were answering
the scorecard question we would say we have a policy. We don't monitor it. I
think that's how we would answer the question unless somebody says you have to
have a manual supplement or whatever.
The second part of my question is have you designated anybody to monitor
that? Wants to institute a policy? We still monitor over here in my little
group we have a discussion about it and we shut ourselves down and we are
leaving it to I mentioned before that we asked the regional Forester to ask
of directors to at the director level talk to the staff. I am definitely not
going to be the hall monitor and so I don't want people throwing rotten fruit
at me..
I'm already Mr. Green sometimes jokingly and I have been turning lights off
and turn my computer off for years now and locking it up in a cabinet. And
here in this [ Indiscernible ] we have been practicing what we are expected to
do. I wondering if you are establishing any -- is
Some of this stuff. I put some of this stuff to about how people feel about
seatbelts. Some people will answer below where it.
We sit -- we say here is the information and give them a nudge. >> I am
talking about designating someone to monitor that. That was the question.
One reason we didn't go down that path is because if you turn them into
somebody worried you turn off the computer for them and not knowing they had
something special on the screen you just ruined their life. So we didn't go
down that path.
What is your advice to the units on that? Honestly. Is asked about it but
what we tried to do and say if you are supervisor we encourage you to have
your staff do that. We encourage the first supervisor the Rangers to say this
is an important thing. So that is where we -- kind of left it. >> Our next
question is from Stephanie [ Indiscernible ].
Hi Karen. I wanted to see -- I think Kathy [ Indiscernible ]. You said that
the estimate wasn't sure that was federal government wide that we waste I
think you might've said over $1 billion annually by leaving their computer and
related equipment turned on. Each night. So can you received that for me and
I will send that out as an energy saver.
It was $2.8 billion per year the entire US. And it was a software company
that made that estimate and I don't know -- I couldn't validate it or find a
reliable source for it so that is why chose not to put it down in writing.
Did
it say federal aid we did it for all people
All people in
in the United States?
the US.
It was Ford Motor Company decided they were going to have an automated
computer shut down because they were estimating they would save $1.2 million
per year. I assume that was through the entire Ford Motor Company. That's
great. Thank you.
Our next question is from
Jim McGinnis.
Thanks very much Mark and Sarah and everybody for this good conversation
today. I've got a question in general and it may be all the way back to DC
with Jacqueline regarding purchase power in terms of sustainable operations
influencing how a CIO would go about obtaining a contract. Currently we have
our monitors at [ Indiscernible ] ended 24 in an attached average Dell
monitor consumes 75 W of energy. When it's being used. Whereas Dell will also
sells a 24 inch ED monitor for $305 on their online store -- the power
consumption for that is about 32 W. Which is half. So the question is in
instances where we have a contract with -- with these people are purchasing
monitors that will be around for lots of years how can we get on board with
having the best and the latest updates on efficiency on things like monitors?
>> Thank you for that question because I think this is a really good example
of where we should be looking at lifecycle costs analysis. If lifecycle cost
analysis tells us that we are saving money buying the more expensive monitor
that's what we should be doing.
In this case is
less expensive.
$305 as opposed to our $400 that
That's a
we are paying.
no-brainer then.
Either these contracts are also big in scope and takes time to get them wet
but there ought to be more efficient process for having that Gateway where we
can have the new monitor when available.
That's a good
question for sending back up to
Thank you. I will pass that on
up also.
DC how we
do that.
I like this lifecycle cost analysis
Our next question is from
when it's cheaper to
start out.
>>
Steve Quintana.
Somebody mentioned before there was a video sustainability in
Yellowstone. Can you let me know where I can find that?
greater
There's a couple of ways and one of them is if you have the ability to login
to the summit records because of the summit actually has a number of really
good video links on it. So if you have -- if you weren't anticipating is a
sustainable operations Summit this year -- our national webpage has a link to
the summit. You can go to source of service and type in sustainable [
Indiscernible ] and a link on to the summit and log in as a guest and login
and get a request from login that is. I will let you get links to all of those
videos. If you don't want to do that you can go to YouTube and taken greater
Yellowstone sustainable operations and I am relatively sure it will pull up
the video there are.
I do agree
that now to this link and it's a 40 minute
didn't -- video.
There are a number of really good sustainability and operation videos related
to the first service that we've either worked on Orkut as they did in. I
encourage everyone to watch those.
Thanks.
This is Katie. After each of these webinars I sent an e-mail with an e-mail to
the length of the recording and a I will include a link for the first service
YouTube channel.
And next question comes from [ Indiscernible ]. >> Our work on the greater
Yellowstone coordinating committee's subcommittee that produced that video so
first of all I'm excited that everybody has been watching it and is asking
questions. And thanks for providing the link for that. I wanted to let people
know they can feel free to contact me directly if they have questions about
it. And Dave Myers is the first supervisor that did that part on shutting down
computers and he what -- did not like his topic so the fact that you are -it makes us happy. [ Multiple Speakers ]
Is more exciting when they are fueling their vehicle with french fry grease.
So we appreciate him doing something that is boring.
He was bummed with the topic.
You guys did a great job with
We had a great geographer to
That's all I had.
the video so thank you for doing
work with so that
that.
helped us.
Thank you.
At this time there are no
other questions.
I just want to say thank you again to Sarah and Baker -- Sarah Baker and
market and Kathy. We have 10 minutes left so I will make one more call for
questions before we end up for the day.
I would like to make one pitcher by me if you don't mind and that is that all
of us who are in sustainable operations I know or at least 99% of those let's
make contact with other people who have questions who are doing things so
please feel free to e-mail me. I am as Baker zero to into force to service
and I love to get e-mail from people with their case studies and information
and with questions.
We have another question from
Jennifer [ Indiscernible
].
Hi. This is kind of a curiosity question about coordinating with the CIO. I
was wondering if -- I would think of all the technologies we have that there
would be a way for CIO to grow create a list of computers that were available
to be shut off and if you don't want your computer shut off that night with
this upcoming weekend, you were just login and say don't turn mine off. And
avoid for the CIO to control things more. I heard that they can actually turn
it on as long as it's plugged in if they really need to. I don't know if that
is a myth or not.
I have come in and my computer is the non-and I know I turned it
definitely have done remote shut down turn on things.
How do we coordinate -- it's like what Jim McGinnis
more with the CIO?
off. So they
said. How do we coordinate
That's a good question. I started working more with the CIO in general just
recently than we had in the past and they are excited about doing some
sustainability stuff and have done some wonderful things. It's not that they
haven't already started off in the direction. But sometimes the coordination
part is harder than we realize. I think I would not be surprised if part of
the answer or part of the response to your question would be where do we get
the manpower and the money to do that. That might be a big family blog for all
of us and a lot of the stuff. But the CIO has been responsive recently to
work with. I encourage people to figure out how to give them those
suggestions. I think some people on this call would also be able to help us
with that.
Thank you. I wanted to go when
-- Throw an
I
get out.
idea out.
Our next question is from Emily
Blount.
Thank you. Wanted to echo everyone that this has been an fantastic session
and question and answer period and thank all of you for helping put this
together. To follow on with the CIO question, I can let you know that we have
had in my office -- I'm here to Washington office director of engineering. And
we have that with the CIO at least monthly and it's been outstanding meetings
and a broad range of topics but I would certainly encourage all of these ideas
to be finals up to our office because we have a forum now and we've got great
participation would not only Doug Nash but a lot of his staff having to tie
can as this deputy has been phenomenal because he bring the regional engineer
perspective into the office. The time is perfect and we are going to continue
to work with him to look at not only these topics but things like
redundancies and software that we have. We're looking at structural and safety
issues from satellite and transmission towers and the list is starting to be
developed of things we engage with the CIO on so appreciate you bringing that
up. And I also wanted to mention one of the items that came home to me was one
of the tasks. On Useless but I'm not sure. But it was complete a utility bill
cleaned up. That is phenomenal. They've done that as well and read through
some of these bills and getting familiar with what you're reading and which
facilities they tied to is quite an eye-opener. So I would highly encourage
and challenge all of us and I know the whole building piece of it is -- is
still a mystery to me and I'm trying to break through that not right now also
but I would welcome all of your assistance in digging deep in starting with
those covered facilities number one but also working down into any of those
over the 5000 ft.&#²; and challenge folks to get copies of those bills and
maybe out of collectively we can work up a way that we can start sending that
data up through our office we can have some hard measurements against what the
reductions really are. We're doing so many good things in the field and so
many excellent tools and training people and putting the smart meters in so I
think the next that is to tell our story and back it up with hard data. Would
welcome all of your input -- and how we can get these bills to the right
people so they can start looking at these and making the steps necessary to
cut back on some of this energy usage. So appreciated and thank you for such a
great presentation all of you.
Thank you. This is Sarah. I do think I want to emphasize what you were saying
about the utility bill cleaned up. We will have a success story database that
is linked in with the leaders and sustainable operations website. Which is
going up a little later on this year to the western collective. And that's a
place we're hoping people will jump in and give us those hard facts so we can
access those as an agency. But we have found savings in the range of $25$40,000 a year in district office -- by doing utility bill cleaned up. Without
at first that was unusual. Turns out that maybe more commonplace.
Bad huge. -- That is huge. We've got the leadership's interest. This is a
topic that is brought up a weekly in meetings I go to so we can start seeing a
few of these districts -- you get the challenge out there. Let's give them an
old-fashioned competition between folks in CFR we can take this.
Thank you very much. We're looking
forward to doing that.
I am to.
And it's question is from [
Indiscernible ].
My question was about the CIO and [ Indiscernible ]. It was more of a comment.
If CIO has any on their website about where people can send in their
suggestions like I don't see [ Indiscernible ]. But I can send a suggestion.
I was wondering if they are to have something like -- what they can get from
the people on the sustainable.
Good question. I don't know the answer to that. What -- the family speaking
up about the meetings it sounds like we have an opportunity to send their
summer right suggestions through engineering also. That might be an
opportunity to use. We also have CIO -- is being closely worked with at the
Washington office group with sustainable operations so we have other
opportunities to get ideas to them also. Don't hesitate to send step up
through me or through Mark or through Emily it sounds like. Thank you.
I thought they were pretty much
centers.
on the ball
when they centralized
data
You're doing good stuff we don't often hear about that we need to
help them from the deal -- field perspective. I appreciate that.
At this time there are no other
be able to
questions.
Thank you. Is almost 1130 Is almost 11:30 AM so this is a good place to wrap
up. Thank you again market their and Kathy. Do any of you at parting words?
Thank you very much. I always have parting words. To encourage people to
continue to attend these calls and sharing information and we can really make
progress without everybody working together. So thank you. I really appreciate
the opportunity to talk to everybody.
Thanks and thanks again. This was a wonderful presentation. This is Katie new
come. Takes a few days to get the closed captioning information in the webinar
to me that once I have that I will send out an e-mail to all disciplines and
a link to the SharePoint site as well so you will have the follow-up pieces we
talked about today. So things again for everyone participating and to our
wonderful speakers. I hope everybody has a great day.
Thank you Katie for all your
hard work.
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