CNN Report on Madrasahs
The speaker draws his audience, the crowd is
inflamed, they rise up and shout "our blood is
ready for sacrifice.“
The speaker draws his audience, the crowd is
inflamed, they rise up and shout "our blood is
ready for sacrifice.“
"Listen, America, listen, Musharraf, every Muslim
child is going to be an Osama for you."
The speaker draws his audience, the crowd is
inflamed, they rise up and shout "our blood is
ready for sacrifice.“
"Listen, America, listen, Musharraf, every Muslim
child is going to be an Osama for you."
A chilling message made even more so by the
fact that the messenger is an 8-year-old boy.
Certainly there is no shortage of young boys in
madrasahs throughout the country eager and
ready to die for their cause.
Qutaratullah says he wants to join the jihad and
he is not afraid to die.
…"It would be special," he says, "for me to die in
the name of jihad.“ His desire for jihad has his
father's blessing.
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According to their religion, a woman over the
age of nine cannot be seen by a man outside
the family.
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According to their religion, a woman over the
age of nine cannot be seen by a man outside
the family.
In a back room behind a door hidden from
strange eyes his mother told me, God willing she
too would like to see her son join the jihad.
Certainly there is no shortage of young boys in
madrasahs throughout the country eager and
ready to die for their cause.
The speaker draws his audience, the
crowd is inflamed, they rise up and
shout "our blood is ready for sacrifice.“
The speaker draws his audience, the
crowd is inflamed, they rise up and
shout "our blood is ready for sacrifice.“
"Listen, America, listen, Musharraf,
every Muslim child is going to be an
Osama for you."
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Pakistani Madrasas Teach Hatred With
Religion
Aired October 18, 2001 - 06:25 ET
This is fighting talk and the hatred
behind it runs deeps. The speaker draws
his audience, the crowd is inflamed,
they rise up and shout "our blood is
ready for sacrifice.“
"Listen, America," says the speaker,
"listen, General Musharraf, every Muslim
child is going to be an Osama for you."
A chilling message made even more so
by the fact that the messenger is an 8year-old boy.
Politics which critics say is taught without the
benefit of a broader secular understanding.
Much of the political teachings they say are
designed to foster fundamentalism and breed
militancy. Certainly there is no shortage of
young boys in madrasas throughout the
country eager and ready to die for their cause.
Qutaratullah is no exception. He says he
wants to join the jihad and he is not afraid to
die.
"God has created us and he can kill us," he
says. "There is a time for everyone to die. It
would be special," he says, "for me to die in
the name of jihad.“ His desire for jihad has his
father's blessing. "The child is very young,"
he says, "but if he was older, then with the will
of God I would send him.“
Qutaratullah's
mother
could
not
be
interviewed. Her husband explains, according
to their religion, a woman over the age of nine
cannot be seen by a man outside the family. In
a back room behind a door hidden from
strange eyes, Qutaratullah's mother told me,
God willing she too would like to see her son
join the jihad.
CNN LIVE EVENT/SPECIAL
Pakistani Madrasas Teach
Hatred With Religion
Aired October 18, 2001 06:25 ET
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Pakistani Madrasas Teach Hatred With Religion
Aired October 18, 2001 - 06:25 ET
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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR:
Well here's a story you have to see to believe and in Pakistan reading
and writing are not the only subjects taught in some religious grade
schools, hatred for the U.S. is also in the curriculum.
CNN's Amanda Kibel takes us inside one such school in Bhag Nari,
Pakistan.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
(CHILD SPEAKING)
MANDA KIBEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is
fighting talk and the hatred behind it runs deeps. The speaker
draws his audience, the crowd is inflamed, they rise up and
shout "our blood is ready for sacrifice.“
"Listen, America," says the speaker, "listen, General Pervez
Musharraf, every Muslim child is going to be an Osama for you."
A chilling message made even more so by the fact that the
messenger is an 8-year-old boy.
On the dusty streets of his home village in a remote part of
southwestern Balochistan, Qutaratullah Afiz looks just like any
other young boy on a bike, except for his hat. Sewn in the black
and white colors of the JUI Party, an Islamic extremist, proTaliban religious party at the forefront of much of the antiAmerican protests seen so far in Pakistan, his hat a badge of
allegiance to a way of thinking and a way of life way beyond his
eight years.
At home where he lives with his family, father, mother, his father's second
wife and 11 siblings, Qutaratullah is once again ready to make a speech.
"In the name of God, in the name of Allah," he intones.
KIBEL: The words spill out as if by remote control. This time his delivery is
less intense but it is the same speech we heard him give just days before.
Why, I asked, is he so angry? "I am angry because of the situation," he
says. "The United States is bombing innocent Muslims. The United States
says Osama bin Laden is a terrorist, they blame the Taliban, but they are
the biggest terrorists of all.“
Qutaratullah says he has never met an American and he doesn't need to,
he says, he hates them all the same.
"We hate them because they attacked our Muslim brothers without
showing any proof they are guilty.“
His father, Hafizula, a teacher at a local secular school, is clearly proud of
his son. He tells us he has a gift from God. He has learned about the U.S.
attacks on Afghanistan by reading newspapers and listening to the radio.
His vision for his son's future he says is in the hands of God.
"With God's will," he says, "I want all my children to be masters of religion,
to know the whole Koran by heart and when they all grow, I will put them
in a good madrasa.“
That process has already begun. Every day, Qutaratullah spends his
mornings at the local state school. In the afternoons, he goes to the
madrasa or religious school which customarily does not admit girls. There
are thousands of madrasi all over Pakistan. For many young boys, the
limited religious education offered by the madrasi is the only education
they get.
The Pakistan government has tried and failed to bring these schools into
the mainstream by forcing them to register with the country's education
department. It hoped this would be a way to keep track and even influence
the madrasi teachings.
KIBEL (on camera): The stated aim of madrasas like this is to keep Islam
alive through education, but at times like this, it seems politics are also
very much on the school agenda.
voice-over): Politics which critics say is taught without the benefit of a
broader secular understanding. Much of the political teachings they say
are designed to foster fundamentalism and breed militancy. Certainly there
is no shortage of young boys in madrasas throughout the country eager
and ready to die for their cause.
Qutaratullah is no exception. He says he wants to join the jihad and he is
not afraid to die.
"God has created us and he can kill us," he says. "There is a time for
everyone to die. It would be special," he says, "for me to die in the name
of jihad.“ His desire for jihad has his father's blessing. "The child is very
young," he says, "but if he was older, then with the will of God I would
send him.“
Qutaratullah's mother could not be interviewed. Her husband explains,
according to their religion, a woman over the age of nine cannot be seen
by a man outside the family. In a back room behind a door hidden from
strange eyes, Qutaratullah's mother told me, God willing she too would
like to see her son join the jihad. But for Qutaratullah, jihad is not the only
dream. I asked if he would one day like to leave his village and see the
world.
"No," he says. "I would only like to go to Afghanistan because there, God
willing," he says, "I can meet Osama bin Laden.“
Amanda Kibel, CNN, Bhag Nari, Pakistan.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
LEON HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Speaking as a father, I'm just not used to
8-year-old boys talking about what they'd die for. PHILLIPS: It's pretty
chilling. HARRIS: Yes, interesting -- very interesting.
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06:25
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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Well here's a story you have to see to believe and in Pakistan reading and writing
are not the only subjects taught in some religious grade schools, hatred for the U.S. is also in the curriculum.
CNN's
Amanda
Kibel
takes
us
inside
one
such
school
in
Bhag
Nari,
Pakistan.
(BEGIN
VIDEOTAPE)
(CHILD
SPEAKING)
AMANDA KIBEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is fighting talk and the hatred behind it runs deeps.
The speaker draws his audience, the crowd is inflamed, they rise up and shout "our blood is ready for sacrifice."
"Listen, America," says the speaker, "listen, General Pervez Musharraf, every Muslim child is going to be an Osama
for
you."
A chilling
message
made
even
more
so
by the
fact
that
the
messenger
is
an 8-year-old
boy.
On the dusty streets of his home village in a remote part of southwestern Balochistan, Qutaratullah Afiz looks just
like any other young boy on a bike, except for his hat. Sewn in the black and white colors of the JUI Party, an
Islamic extremist, pro-Taliban religious party at the forefront of much of the anti-American protests seen so far in
Pakistan, his hat a badge of allegiance to a way of thinking and a way of life way beyond his eight years.
At home where he lives with his family, father, mother, his father's second wife and 11 siblings, Qutaratullah is
once
again
ready
to
make
a
speech.
"In
the
name
of
God,
in
the
name
of
Allah,"
he
intones.
KIBEL: The words spill out as if by remote control. This time his delivery is less intense but it is the same speech
we
heard
him
give
just
days
before.
CNN LIVE EVENT/SPECIAL
Pakistani Madrasas Teach Hatred With Religion
Aired October 18, 2001 - 06:25 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Well here's a story you have to see to believe and in Pakistan reading and writing
are not the only subjects taught in some religious grade schools, hatred for the U.S. is also in the curriculum.
CNN's Amanda Kibel takes us inside one such school in Bhag Nari, Pakistan.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
(CHILD SPEAKING)
AMANDA KIBEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is fighting talk and the hatred behind it runs deeps.
The speaker draws his audience, the crowd is inflamed, they rise up and shout "our blood is ready for sacrifice."
"Listen, America," says the speaker, "listen, General Pervez Musharraf, every Muslim child is going to be an Osama
for you."
A chilling message made even more so by the fact that the messenger is an 8-year-old boy.
On the dusty streets of his home village in a remote part of southwestern Balochistan, Qutaratullah Afiz looks just
like any other young boy on a bike, except for his hat. Sewn in the black and white colors of the JUI Party, an
Islamic extremist, pro-Taliban religious party at the forefront of much of the anti-American protests seen so far in
Pakistan, his hat a badge of allegiance to a way of thinking and a way of life way beyond his eight years.
At home where he lives with his family, father, mother, his father's second wife and 11 siblings, Qutaratullah is