CLASSES TO GO! 2B or Not 2B: Return on Equity Ronald Bruyn, MBA BIVAB Associate Director BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Disclaimer • The information in this presentation is for educational purposes only and is not intended to be a recommendation to purchase or sell any of the stocks, mutual funds, or other securities that may be referenced. The securities of companies referenced or featured in the seminar materials are for illustrative purposes only and are not to be considered endorsed or recommended for purchase or sale by BetterInvesting™ National Association of Investors Corporation (“BI”) or the BetterInvesting Volunteer Advisory Board, its volunteer advisory board (“BIVA”). The views expressed are those of the instructors, commentators, guests and participants, as the case may be, and do not necessarily represent those of BetterInvesting™ or BIVA. 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BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Return on Equity (EPS / book value) 5.6% BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Analysts (but not Value Line) define Return on Equity as net income (after taxes) divided by shareholder’s equity Net income after taxes/shareholders equity x 100 = 5.8% ROE BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION EPS/Book Value .59/10.45 x 100 = 5.6% ROE The Value Line Calculation: EPS/Book Value .59 / (9.78+10.45) x 100= 5.8% 2 BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION BetterInvesting and analysts: slightly different ways of calculating ROE, BUT the results are similar. BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION ROE on Value Line Return on Shr. Equity 5.8% EPS/Book Value .59/(9.78+10.45)=5.8% 2 BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION What is Book Value? Actual value of the assets of a business. Another term for shareholder equity BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Book Value • Total assets minus total liabilities minus intangible assets • Looks backwards • Not accurate in some industries • Affected by leases • Affected by intangible assets BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Where do we find Book Value? Book Value 10.45 Book Value 10.45 BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Reminder: Value Line uses ROE = EPS divided by AVERAGE book value per share (an average of beginning book value and ending book value) BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION BetterInvesting uses: EPS divided by ENDING book value per share BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Return on Equity •Profitability •Asset Turns •Leverage BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION What is profitability? • Section 2A - profit before taxes • Section 2B - after taxes, not before taxes (as in 2A). BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Is it good to increase profitability? YES! BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION What are asset turns? BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION The amount of inventory the company can sell relative to its asset base or How often a company turns over its assets or inventory in a year. Asset turnover is industry specific! BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Is it good to increase asset turns? Yes! (but difficult) BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION What is leverage? Leverage is debt. BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION It it good to increase leverage? MAYBE!! BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Debt can help a company expand BUT Too much debt can be a problem! BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION • Debt can help a company grow • Too much debt can destroy an unstable company BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Let’s relate profitability, asset turns and leverage to our definition of Return on Equity. BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION ROE = Profitability x Asset Turns x Leverage • Profitability = Income divided by Sales • Asset Turns = Sales divided by Assets • Leverage = Assets divided by Equity BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Now for some math… Income Sales Sales Assets Assets Equity ROE Or Profitability x Asset Turns x Leverage = ROE BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Notice that some of the items cancel out. Income Sales Sales Assets Assets Equity ROE This leaves us with our original equation: Income / equity Income divided by equity = ROE BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Are all three terms equal? Increasing profitability is good. Increasing asset turns is good. But.. Is increasing debt necessarily good? BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION With this in mind, let’s go back to our Return on Equity formula. Let’s see what happens if we increase each item separately. BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION • Profitability x Asset turns x Leverage • Let’s assume: Profitability = 2 Asset Turns = 2 Leverage =2 2 x2 x 2=8 ROE •Let’s increase profitability to 4 4 x 2 x 2 = 16 Increasing profitability increases ROE BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION • Profitability x Asset turns x Leverage • Let’s assume: Profitability = 2 Asset Turns = 2 Leverage =2 2 x2 x 2=8 ROE •Let’s increase Asset Turns to 4 2 x 4 x 2 = 16 Increasing Asset Turns Increases ROE BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION • Profitability x Asset turns x Leverage • Let’s assume: Profitability = 2 Asset Turns = 2 Leverage =2 2 x2 x 2=8 ROE •Let’s increase Leverage (debt) to 4 2 x 2 x 4= 16 Increasing Leverage (debt) Increases ROE BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION All three increases produced the same result but is each increase of the same quality? •Profitability increases are good •Asset turn increases are good •Debt increases may not be good BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION CAUTION!! • Return on Equity can be complicated and deceptive! BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Up is not always good and down is not always bad! • Increasing debt may cause rising Return on Equity. • Decreasing debt may cause falling Return on Equity. BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Can we spot which factor is causing the change in ROE? Maybe… BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Other factors can also influence Return on Equity… Acquisitions and mergers. Expensing costs for research and development under the new accounting rules. BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION When can we safely use ROE? • When a company consistently carries no debt • When we’re willing to do the research BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Here’s the bad news! • 2B is complicated. • 2B is not reliable as a simple answer to efficiency. • Up may not always be good and down is not always bad. BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Today we learned: • Two definitions for Return on Equity, which produced similar results. • Some of the problems in interpreting Return on Equity • How Return on Equity can be distorted on the SSG • Why we should be careful in applying ROE to our judgments BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Sources • NAIC Stock Selection Handbook by Bonnie Biafore • Return on Equity Motley Fool • Working with Financial Statements www.usoiuxfalls.edu BETTERINVESTING NATIONAL CONVENTION Make A Difference In Someone’s Life If you have benefited from BETTERINVESTING, Please pick up some BETTERINVESTING materials and introduce others to this opportunity.