Frequently Asked Questions
ADN Directors Meeting
March 2, 2012
Vendor-Based Testing
QUESTIONS:
ANSWERS:
1. TEAS V is different than the rest of ATI
products. How does CCCCO differentiate
among the two?
TEAS V is the assessment test that predicts success in
the 1st semester of an ADN program. Per the
Chancellor’s Office/Ed Code Title 5 (Student Fee
Handbook, Chapter 1) when used as an admission to the
program requirement, the school must pay.
2. Can we require students to buy the ATI
product line?
Yes, as long as they get a book to go with it. Section
76365 Chapter 2.
3. Can ATI product be used for testing in
courses or at the end of the program (at the
discretion of those programs)? If yes, to
what degree?
Yes. However you cannot base the course grade solely
on the vendor based test, according to Title 5.
TEAS V and SB1309 from 2006 that was clarified in SB139 in 2007
QUESTIONS:
ANSWERS:
1. Does every program need to use scores and
testing as set forth by CCCCO?
(“Guidelines for Implementation of the
Nursing Assessment/Readiness Test” last
revised 03/12).
a. The program is not required to use an assessment
test. But if you do you must use the following
guidelines.
b. If you’re going to use the assessment testing you
must use a CCCCO approved product.
c. And based on vender used, you must use the
composite minimum score as approved by the
CCCCO.
d. See guidelines for the implementation of the
nursing assessment/readiness test (see CCCCO
website).
e. If you use the student success score (cut score, prerequisite validation study) you must use the entire
formula. The actual cut score used for admission is
individually determined by the school based on the
disproportionate impact studies conducted by the
school. If a disproportionate impact occurs the
school must allow the students to remediate.
2. What are the remediation guidelines for the
colleges using TEAS?
Per the “Guidelines for the Implementation of the
Nursing Assessment /Readiness Test,” the college shall
allow those students who scored below the composite
minimum at least one year, or longer, at college
discretion, to remediate and demonstrate readiness. The
period of remediation shall commence on the date the
student receives his/her remediation plan for pre-entry
coursework. Demonstration of readiness shall include
one of the following:
a. Successful completion of a remediation plan and
successful retaking of the assessment/readiness
test with a passing composite score, or
b. Demonstration of passing grades in college
remediation coursework in the appropriate
disciplines to address areas identified as needing
improvement by the assessment readiness test, or
c. Documentation of successful completion of a
remediation plan that satisfies the intent of
assuring readiness for success in the nursing
program and is approved by the Nursing
Program Director
d. Any student not meeting the remediation
requirements within the colleges designated
timeframe will be required to restart the
application process as a new student.
2. Is the requirement to provide remediation
tied to the Enrollment Growth funding?
Yes
3. Will we continue to do the October reports
to evaluate disproportionate impact?
Yes. Schools submit data to the Chancellor’s Office by
October 25. The schools are required to report
disproportionate impact. They have to maintain data
regardless of the vendor approved assessment testing
that is being used.
4. That data will only include students taking
the TEAS V, correct?
The other vendors also submit their surveys to the
CCCCO.
AB 1559
QUESTIONS:
ANSWERS:
1. Clarify the use of elements to be included
in screening:
a. Must all criteria written in AB1559 be
included in the programs multicriterion selection process?
Yes
b. May other elements be added (i.e.
something not detailed in the bill’s
language like letters of support)? If so,
under what circumstances?
Yes. Under the circumstances that they use all the
criteria from AB 1559.
When using multiple criteria, please submit to CCCCO
project manager for review.
2. If a program is not receiving Enrollment
Growth grant funding, is it required to
follow AB1559?
3. What are the yearly reporting
requirements?
4. Does the CCCCO or the nursing program
assess for disproportionate impact?
5. Is it accurate to state that CC programs
No
According to AB1559 there are no reporting
requirements, however if you are using it as part of
grants, then you have to report on it within the grant
reporting.
Nursing program.
Cannot use residency as any criteria for consideration.
may not use residency as a sole criteria for
program consideration?
Pre-requisites
QUESTIONS:
1. Is recency of pre-requisites allowed? If so,
under what circumstances?
ANSWERS:
Determined by Individual colleges or programs.
Miscellaneous Fee Charges
When charging miscellaneous fees, remember that the only fees allowed are for instructional materials.
(Student Fee Handbook, Section 2.5 Instructional Materials) The materials allowed must be tangible personal
property that are necessary for a student’s vocational training and employment. This includes, but are not
limited to, textbooks, tools, equipment, clothing and electronic data that the student may access during class and
store for personal use after the class in a manner comparable to the use available during the class.
 Health Stream is an online program for orientation to hospitals. Students may print and retain the record,
therefore it is an allowable fee.
 http://www.healthstream.com/index.aspx
 Immuno Track is an allowable fee. They provide back-ground checks and have a tracking mechanism for
their records that the students can print.
 Charging for student nurse packs with equipment is legal if it goes through the students store or the students
go directly through the company.