13. Why did juror 12 change his vote?

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TWELVE ANGRY MEN – Questions and Answers
1. Why is it so difficult for the jury in 'Twelve Angry Men' to reach its
final verdict?
I think the jurors really had to get past their personal bias and prejudice. Looking at
prejudice in a larger sense, we find that, while maybe not racially driven, many of the
jurors enter the jury room with preconceived notions and irrational ideas. 3rd Juror
seems to be prejudiced against the accused simply because of his age, which seems to
remind him of his estranged son. An interesting example of "reverse prejudice" is 8th
Juror, who is initially sympathetic to the accused, not because of the evidence, but
because he pitied his poor and troubled upbringing.
2. What kind of man is Juror Three? why?
3rd Juror is a small business owner. He proudly says that he started his business from
scratch and now employs thirty-four workers. We learn early on that he has a bad
relationship with his own son, with whom he is no longer speaking. We are led to
believe that this is a contributing factor to his prejudice against the defendant, accused
of stabbing his own father. 3rd Juror is the last to be convinced and only changes his
mind once he realizes that he is only projecting his feelings about his own son onto
the defendant.
3. What could the setting portend?
In 1957, racism ran rampant and bias was the norm. The setting of this play portends a
negative outcome for the defendant. This possible outcome, as we see in the play, is
justified by the jurors' indirect relation to the defendant's class, race, and the place he
lived.
4. What was Juror number 3 position versus his interest?
3rd Juror is a small business owner. He proudly says that he started his business
from scratch and now employs thirty-four workers. We learn early on that he has a
bad relationship with his own son, with whom he is no longer speaking. We are led to
believe that this is a contributing factor to his prejudice against the defendant,
accused of stabbing his own father. 3rd Juror is the last to be convinced and only
changes his mind once he realizes that he is only projecting his feelings about his
own son onto the defendant.
5. Which behavior of SEVEN angers Eleven shortly after the third vote?
The 7th Juror, tired of sitting through the deliberations, decides to change his vote to
‘not guilty.’ 11th Juror is angered by this, furious that 7th Juror is not respecting the
process enough to do what he believes is right, no matter what that is.
6. What does Eleven say is "a remarkable thing about democracy"?
“This is a remarkable thing about democracy,” says the foreign-born juror,
“that we are notified by mail to come down to this place-and decide on the
guilt or innocence of a man; of a man we have not known before. We have
nothing to gain or lose by our verdict. We should not make it a personal thing.”
7. In the middle of Act Two, the 5th Juror changes his vote to not guilty.
Is this purely a result of the 8th Juror's argument, or are there other
factors involved?
No, his hesitation isn't related to the 8th Juror's argument. When the 2nd
Jurorbrings up the coroner’s testimony that the father had been stabbed in the
chest “down and in” and also that his father was six or seven inches taller
than he. While reenacting the mechanics of this stabbing, 5th Juror gets up
and begins to examine the switchblade. He explains that it would make no
sense for someone to stab someone like that with a switchblade because it
would require the attacker to lose precious time. Because the defendant was
highly competent with a switchblade, it becomes questionable whether or not
he would have made that chest wound.
8. What insight does juror 8 make about the 3rd jurors anger regarding
the defendant?
After a bit of provocation, the 3rd Juror becomes angry with the discussion in
the room. 8th Juror calls him a “self-appointed public avenger” and a “sadist,”
and 3rd leaps at him. Restrained by the other men, he shouts, “God damn it!
I’ll kill him! I’ll kill him.” 8th Juror asks, “You don’t really mean you’ll kill me, do
you?” proving his earlier point about how people say, “I’ll kill you,” when they
don’t really mean it.
9. What motivates the 10th juror in wanting to find the accused guilty?
Racism and prejudice are the motivating forces for the 10th Juror to fund the
defendant guilty.
10. What is the third juror's perspective about how obvious the accused
guilt is?
The 3rd Juror makes a speech about how this boy is just another example of
“how kids are nowadays.” He speaks about his own son, comparing the two,
as he and his son had a rough relationship, and to whom he hasn’t spoken in
two years, after a fight in which his son hit him.
11. Why the author chose to use only the general concept of slum
dwellers rather than a specific ethnic / racial group?
There is a class system at play when the jurors are deliberating. I think the
boy was Hispanic if I'm not mistaken so there is an ethnic group involved.
12. What does #8 try to prove with the help of the diagram of the
apartment and how? Are his efforts successful?
Juror # 8 states, using the map, that the old man could not have gotten so far
in 15 seconds (out of bed, down the hall, open the door...) to witness the boy
running away.
13. Why did juror 12 change his vote?
Juror 12 is easily swayed by a passionate appeal. Juror #4 restates his
conviction that the woman who saw the murder from across the street still
counts as solid evidence. Juror 12 is swayed by this and changes his vote.
14. Who are the important witnesses in the court case?
There is the female eyewitness who sees through the train window as well as
the old man that hears the fight and claims he sees the boy running away.
15. List 3 ways that #8 convinces the rest of the jurors to change their
votes.
He is the only juror who votes “not guilty” at the first vote. He is discontent
with the way the trial was handled and wants them to discuss the evidence in
greater detail. Met with much opposition, he continues to advocate for the
boy. He cites the boy’s troubled upbringing, with his mother dead and his
father jailed. 8th Juror surprises the others by presenting an identical knife he
had purchased in a pawn shop two blocks from where the boy lived a few
nights prior, shattering the claim that the knife was unique and identifiable.
The 8th Juror concludes by saying that even if he did hear him say, “I’m
gonna kill you,” that very well could be taken out of context as just a figure of
speech. With this 5th Juror changes his vote to “not guilty,” and the vote is 9-3
in favor of guilty.
16. How do things change when the evidence (knife) is brought into the
jury room for examination?
When a discussion about the murder weapon, which was identified as the
knife purchased by the defendant, a “one-of-a-kind” knife, begins, 8th Juror
surprises the others by presenting an identical knife he had purchased in a
pawn shop two blocks from where the boy lived a few nights prior, shattering
the claim that the knife was so unique and identifiable.
17. Provide a quote that is an example of each of the persuasive
appeals: Ethos, Pathos, Logos
Ethos: Juror 8. I don’t want to change your mind. I just want to talk for a while.
Look, this boy’s been kicked around all his life. You know, living in a slum, his
mother dead since he was nine. That’s not a very good head start. He’s a
tough, angry kid. You know why slum kids get that way?
Pathos: Juror 3. I never saw a guiltier man in my life. You sat right in court
and heard the same thing I did. The man’s a dangerous killer. You could see
it.
Logos: Juror 8 (quietly). Nobody has to prove otherwise. The burden of
proof is on the prosecution. The defendant doesn’t have to open his mouth.
That’s in the Constitution. The Fifth Amendment. You’ve heard of it.
18. Identify 3 conflicts in the play. Who is involved in each conflict and
over what?
Throughout the play, we see two opposing views of justice. From 8th Juror
and others, as they join, we see a perspective of justice that favors the
accused and that wants most for him to have a fair shot. To 8th Juror, the
boy's poor and troubled upbringing, his shoddy state-appointed defense
attorney, and the jury's quick near-decisive decision to convict him are all
gross forms of injustice.
Conversely, we see another side of justice proposed by the other members of
the jury, who feel that the accused is clearly guilty, and anything other than
conviction and execution is short of justice. 6th Juror articulates this most
clearly, saying, "Suppose you talk us outta this and the kid really did knife his
father?" The 8th juror and the 3rd juror often come into conflict.
19. Why does the author of the play give the jury members instead of
names? Give 3 reasons why?
At no point in the script are any names used, including for the jurors, the
defendants, or the witnesses. This is a very conspicuous choice that allows
each character to function as part of this larger allegory for the American
society. It gives the sense that the jurors could be you, the person sitting next
to you, or the person down the street; these are everyday Americans.
20. Who offers to demonstrate that the stabbing could have happened,
and what tense moment occurs?
There are only 2 acts to this play. I think you are referring to when the 2nd
juror who offers to stage the stabbing.
5th Juror gets up and begins to examine the switchblade. He explains that it
would make no sense for someone to stab someone like that with a
switchblade because it would require the attacker to lose precious time.
Because the defendant was highly competent with a switchblade, it becomes
questionable whether or not he would have made that chest wound.
7th Juror, tired of sitting through these deliberations, decides to change his
vote to ‘not guilty.’
21. List 3 pieces of evidence that the jurors use to change their vote.
The 4th Juror explains that, on the night of the murder, the boy bought a
uniquely carved switchblade knife identical to the one used in the murder. The
boy claims that he lost it that night, before coming home to find his father
dead. 4th Juror presents the death weapon, the “only one of its kind;” 8th
Juror surprises the others by presenting an identical knife he had purchased
in a pawn shop two blocks from where the boy lived a few nights prior,
shattering the claim that the knife was unique and identifiable.
8th Juror presents several hypothetical situations, based on the father’s
criminal background, that could have gotten him killed that evening.
8th Juror concludes by saying that even if the old man did hear him say, “I’m
gonna kill you,” that very well could be taken out of context as just a figure of
speech.
The 11th Juror raises the question of why the boy would return home,
several hours after his father had been murdered, if he had been the one to
murder him.
22. Why does #5 understand better than any of the others, the feelings
of the defendant? Give 3 reasons why?
The fifth juror had grown up in a slum himself. His upbringing gave him certain
insight such as the use of a switchblade.
23. Why does the jury automatically think the kid is guilty? Give 3
reasons.
An old man living beneath the boy and his father testified that he heard
upstairs a fight, the boy shouting, “I’m gonna kill you,” a body hitting the
ground, and then he saw the boy running down the stairs.
The boy claimed he had been at the movies while his father was murdered,
but couldn’t remember the name of the movies or who was in them.
A woman living across the street testified that she saw the boy kill his father
through the windows of a passing elevated train.
The boy had, that night, had an argument with his father, which resulted in the
boy’s father hitting him twice.
The boy had an extensive list of prior offenses, including trying to slash
another teenager with a knife.
24. What is a hung jury?
A hung jury is a jury that cannot agree on a verdict.
25. How does the attitude of #8 toward the boy and the crime contrast
with the attitude of #10? Give 2 ways.
The 10th Juror cites the boy’s slum background as evidence for his being
“trash.” Juror 10 is also racist, something that is evident in his overall attitude.
26. Why does Juror #8 vote not guilty on the first ballot? Give 3 reasons.
8th Juror presents several hypothetical situations, based on the father’s
criminal background, that could have gotten him killed that evening. Next, he
attempts to discount the testimony by the old man living downstairs by
deducing that, because of the sound made by the elevated train passing by,
there’s no way he could have heard with certainty screaming and a body
hitting the floor. 9th Juror identifies with the poor old man, believing that he
might just be trying to feel important. 8th Juror concludes by saying that even
if he did hear him say, “I’m gonna kill you,” that very well could be taken out of
context as just a figure of speech.
27. Who is the last juror to change his vote? What in his background might
explain his stubbornness to do this?
The 3rd Juror is the last to change his vote. In this act, we see that the 3rd
Juror, who has, despite his temper, been a somewhat coherent voice in the
deliberations, is completely driven by his own demons to convict the boy, in
place of his own son, with whom he has a troubled relationship. We see the
layers of his decision making process peel away in his final monologue. It
begins with him chronicling logically the case; however, it quickly becomes
clear that he is no longer talking about the defendant. He says, “I can feel the
knife goin’ in,” and we see that his personal connection and confusion about
the case runs deep. Finally, the demon is named when 8th Juror says, “It’s
not your boy. It’s somebody else.” 3rd Juror finally gives in to reason.
28. Explain what Juror #8 means in observing, “prejudice obscures the
truth,” and discuss whether or not total impartiality is possible.
Juror # 8 expresses one of the greater themes of this play. Prejudice is
observed on several levels throughout the course of the play. In the most
obvious sense, the play deals with racial prejudice. While, conspicuously, the
race of the accused is never certain, we do understand that he is a minority of
some sort (in the 1957 film, the actor playing the accused was Italian), and
this quickly becomes a heated issue among the jurors, especially for 9th
Juror, who refers to the accused as "one of them."
Looking at prejudice in a larger sense, we find that, while maybe not racially
driven, many of the jurors enter the jury room with preconceived notions and
irrational ideas. 3rd Juror seems to be prejudiced against the accused simply
because of his age, which seems to remind him of his estranged son. An
interesting example of "reverse prejudice" is 8th Juror, who is initially
sympathetic to the accused, not because of the evidence, but because he
pitied his poor and troubled upbringing. It is unlikely that prejudice can ever be
completely taken out of the equation: human nature seems to require some
prejudice to conceptualize human problems.
29. Describe how the play is an allegory for the country at the time it was
written.
Prejudice is observed on several levels throughout the course of the play. In
the most obvious sense, the play deals with racial prejudice. While,
conspicuously, the race of the accused is never certain, we do understand
that he is a minority of some sort (in the 1957 film, the actor playing the
accused was Italian), and this quickly becomes a heated issue among the
jurors, especially for 9th Juror, who refers to the accused as "one of them."
Looking at prejudice in a larger sense, we find that, while maybe not racially
driven, many of the jurors enter the jury room with preconceived notions and
irrational ideas. 3rd Juror seems to be prejudiced against the accused simply
because of his age, which seems to remind him of his estranged son. An
interesting example of "reverse prejudice" is 8th Juror, who is initially
sympathetic to the accused, not because of the evidence, but because he
pitied his poor and troubled upbringing.
30. How do the requirements of a unanimous verdict and proof beyond a
reasonable doubt relate to the personal concerns that some jurors will
bring to the jury room?
On a personal level, jurors are often more concerned with a quick result and
getting home to their families. Rather than be the one person to hold up the
verdict, they'd rather vote with the rest of the group and be done with it.
People also feel uncomfortable with the hows and whys; they might be
incapable of verbalizing concerns and questioning evidence. Thus, they say
nothing. On the other hand, strong personalties and idealism will lead some to
stand behind their beliefs. If their feelings are well stated and conveyed
properly, they have the power to sway others.
31. How does Juror #6 offer an insight when #4 removes his glasses?
When the 4th Juror rubs his nose where his spectacles have made
indentations, the 9th Juror realizes that the woman also had those same
marks on her nose and must have worn glasses, despite the fact that she
didn’t wear them in court, presumably for her own vanity. This causes all of
the jurors to question the eyesight of the woman, who may have witnessed
the murder without her glasses.
32. What explanation does #9 give as to why the old man might have
lied? Why would he, in particular, observe this?
The 9th Juror identifies with the poor old man, believing that he might just be
trying to feel important.
33. Why does Juror #5 get upset when #10 shows prejudice against
people from slum areas?
The 10th Juror and 5th Juror get into an argument over 10th Juror’s citing the
boy’s slum background as evidence for his being “trash.” 5th Juror is angered
by this, having grown up in a slum himself.
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