‘Escape from Poverty’ and Occupations Paul Lambert, Univ. Stirling Vernon Gayle, Univ. Stirling & ISER, Univ. Essex Paper presented to the BHPS Research Conference 9-11 July 2009, University of Essex Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 1 ‘Escape from Poverty’ and Occupations Or, ‘Occupational disadvantage and its relation to poverty and poverty transitions’ 1) Why occupations matter 2) How an occupational approach to measuring poverty could work 3) Some preliminary results Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 2 Some background • Research on stratification, inequality, poverty • Whole distribution, cf the most disadvantaged – E.g. Poverty as < 50% median; ‘Underclass’ as lacking assets; etc • Direct v’s indirect measures of poverty (e.g. Gordon, 2000, 2006) • Absolute or relative measures • Sociology – primacy of the occupation • Economics, Social Policy: primacy of income and work-based income (e.g. UK ‘welfare to work’ policies influenced by income considerations) Notion of a latent, underlying, socially embedded occupation as an indirect measure of poverty...? Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 3 1) Why occupations matter “Nothing stamps a man as much as his occupation. Daily work determines the mode of life.. It constrains our ideas, feelings and tastes” (Goblot, 1961)* Some claims about occupations: i. Occupations matter more than other things ii. Occupational inequality is mostly onedimensional iii. Occupational information resources are under-used, and this causes bad science *Quote as highlighted in Coxon and Jones (1978: 10) Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 4 (i) Occupations matter more Importance of 'Having a fulfilling job' I'm going to read out a list of things that people value. For each one I'd like you to tell me on a scale of 1 to 10 how important each one is to you. Not important 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Very important male female Source: BHPS wave M (2003), Scottish respondents, valid N=2733, variables 'mlfimp*'. Other options (mean): Health (9.5); money (6.5); children (7.7); job (7.9); independence (8.7); own own home (7.7); good partnership (8.9); good friends (9.3) ‘Gissa job’; ‘I can do that’ From http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/content/articles/2007/10/09/boys_from_the_blackstuff_feature.shtml Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 5 (i) Occupations matter more a) We behave as if they do b) Define our lifestyles c) Define structures of social inequality b) Lifestyles A large body of sociological evidence on the social meaning of occupations – define friendships, marriage, leisure, consumption, and social reproduction itself (e.g. Devine 2004, Pettinger et al. 2005; Guveli et al. 2007; Archer 2007; Bottero et al. 2009) “A man’s work is as good a clue as any to the course of his life and to his social being and identity” (Hughes, 1958) Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 6 A specially selected table… Source: BHPS 2007, currently employed adults, predictors of smoking (additional controls for age and gender) Variable mcam ns_sec_s _Ins_sec_2 _Ins_sec_3 _Ins_sec_4 _Ins_sec_5 _Ins_sec_6 _Ins_sec_7 _Ins_sec_8 qfimn qfihhmn r2_a r2_p bic N ll CAM NS_2 NS_8 SOC90 PINC HHINC -.02872*** -.5622*** -.5701 -.00575 -.00227 .3827 .558 .5991 .8483* -.00018*** -.00014*** .05038 .03158 7407 7130 -3681 .02027 7493 7130 -3724 .03058 7467 7130 -3685 7110 7130 -3537 .01727 7515 7130 -3735 .02149 7483 7130 -3719 legend: * p<0.05; ** p<0.01; *** p<0.001 Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 7 .05 Health status in last 6 months Current own job (N~7700) All valid (N~11700) .01 .02 .03 .04 Recent own job (N~10500) HH dominance current/recent/par job Recent own (N~11340) or parents' job (N~10900) HH dominance current or recent job (N~11310) HH dominance current job (N~9220) Nulls NS-SEC2 HH Income CAMSIS SOC90 Pers. Educ12 Source: BHPS Wave 17 (2007), adult interviews (Britain), unweighted Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 NS-SEC8 Pers. income HH Educ12 8 5 6 .15 7 .06 .04 4 5 6 7 Smokes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 0 0 0 .05 .05 Saves money at present 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 .01 .02.03 .04 Father's occupation 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 .1 Own or buying home 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 .15 .1 .15 0 0 1 2 3 .01.02.03.04.05.06 4 .05 1 2 3 Expenditure on leisure .1 .01 GHQ well-being Has a tumble drier .02 Satisfaction with life 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 0 Subjective health 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 .005 .015 .025 .01 .02 .01.02 .03.04 .05 R-2 Gains with occupation-based measures Source: BHPS Wave 17 adult interviews (Britain). Unweighted N varies by subsamples used. Graph shows gain in R2 due to occupation-based measures over and above regression with gender and quadratic age controls. (unshaded columns show R2 due to gender and quadratic age only). Populations analysed are individuals with: 1. Current own job, N~7700; 2. Recent own job, N~10500; 3. Recent own job or parents job, N~10900; 4. HH Dominance (1), N~9220; 5. HH dominance (2), N~11310; 6. HH Dominance (3), N~11340; 7. All valid individuals, N ~11700 Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 9 c) Occupations define structures of social inequality – Occupations are convenient markers of major social inequalities – Occupations (division of labour) are the primary driver of the structure of social inequality Empirical evidence.. • Reaffirms economic significance of jobs • (McGovern et al, 2007; ) • Rejects thesis of diminished structural significance of occupations in modern society • (Blossfeld et al., 2006) • Highlights centrality of occupations in contours of other social divisions • (e.g. immigration - Waldinger and Lichter, 2003) Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 10 [Occupational not geographical inequality – cf. Burrows & Crow 2006] Geography of occupational advantage 2001 Census Scotland Central Scotland 0-20% 21-40% 41-60 61-80% 81-90% 91%+ Source: CASWEB, Census 2001 Output areas. Points show percentile mean average CAMSIS scoreBHPS for males work. Lambert: confinJuly 2009 11 Occupations ‘stamp’ the life-course… (i) Stability of measures over time: Design effects for income and occupations BHPS annual panel, waves 9-17 England Wales Scotland Personal income [fimn] 4.71 12157; 5.5 3.91 4356; 5.4 4.49 4691; 5.4 Household inc. [fihhmn] 4.09 12339; 5.6 3.37 4457; 5.4 4.00 4766; 5.4 Current job CAMSIS 5.51 8956; 5.0 5.40 2874; 4.8 5.36 3341; 4.9 Current / recent job 5.51 11748; 5.8 5.39 4092; 5.6 5.36 4525; 5.6 HH dom. current job 5.06 10386; 5.2 4.83 3499; 4.9 4.99 3864; 5.0 HH dom current/recent 5.07 12442; 5.6 4.83 4411; 5.4 4.99 4766; 5.4 Cells show DEFF statistics (Kish 1965, via Stata’s svymean), & N indvs; mean(#responses/#indvs) Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 12 ..occupations and life-time lifestyles.. 0 .5 1 1.5 2 R2 gains in repeated measures predictors of smoking CAMSIS job NS2 job CAMSIS HH PA panel model NS2 HH Indv Income HH Income PA panel plus lag effect Source: BHPS waves 9-17, adults from Britain. [A somewhat contrived outcome] Graph shows 100*pseudo-R2 increments adding explanatory vars to basic model with controls for gender and quadratic age (population average logit model). Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 13 9 year average occupation/income, by housing tenure 2 0 -2 -4 -4 -2 0 2 4 HH dominance current/recent CAMSIS 4 Current job CAMSIS 0 1000 2000 3000 0 2000 3000 Social housing Private renting 10 Buying home Own home Buying home Social housing Private renting 0 0 5 Own home 15 Household income (to 97th ptile) 5 10 15 Personal income (to 97th ptile) 1000 0 1000 2000 3000 0 1000 2000 Source: BHPS, waves 9-17, unweighted. Ever present always employed adults (N=3193). Graph shows within 9-year mean andLambert: min-maxBHPS rangeconf for July each2009 adult 3000 14 ii) Occupational inequality is mostly onedimensional CAMSIS NS-SEC frequency frequency 4 5 higher managerial and professional 6 7 lower managerial and professional 8 Vingtiles 9 intermediate occupations 10 11 small employers and own account workers 12 13 lower supervisory and technical 14 15 semi-routine occupations 16 17 18 routine occupations male female maximum: 5799 male female maximum: 9764 Source: Labour Force Survey Jan-Mar 2008, current job of employed (18yrs+) Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 15 (1) UK Males, 2001 (2) UK Females, 2001 • Histograms go here 20 40 60 80 100 (4) UK: Father's of births 1666-1839 Labourers Farm workers 20 40 60 80 (3) UK Adults, 2001 100 (5) UK: Fathers of births 1840-1939 Farmers 20 40 60 80 100 (6) UK: Females born 1666-1900 N=103354 N=11075 Domestic service Dressmakers, milliners, etc N=16306 0 20 40 60 80 100 Labourers 0 (7) USA: Males from 1960 20 40 60 80 100 (7) USA: Females from 2000 0 20 40 60 80 100 (7) Romania: Males + Females, 2002 N used=700000 N=335287 N=887800 20 40 60 80 100 0 20 40 60 80 100 20 40 60 80 100 CAMSIS scales have mean 50, sd 15 for derivation population. Histogram bins=2 points. Kdensity width=15. Source: (1),(2),(3): UK Census Samples of Annonymised Records, Individual samples, aggregated occupational minor groups; (4),(5),(6): Family History Study (Prandy & Bottero, 1998); (7),(8),(9): IPUMS-International (Minnesota Population Center, 2008). Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 16 iii) Occupational information resources are under-used, and this causes bad science • Detailed occupational data is important • e.g. Weeden & Grusky (2005) • Handling of detailed occupational data is generally poor – Re-coding to simplified categorisations – Ignoring complex data (e.g. careers; gender seg.) • For more and more (and more) on this see – www.dames.org.uk – Lambert et al (2007) Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 17 Men's jobs (frequencies) 1 11 12 13 20 21 22 23 24 31 32 33 34 41 42 51 52 61 71 72 73 74 81 82 83 91 92 93 maximum: 335 0 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 59 60 61 62 63 64 66 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 78 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 90 Women's jobs (frequencies) 1 11 12 13 20 21 22 23 24 31 32 33 34 41 42 51 52 61 71 72 73 74 81 82 83 91 92 93 maximum: 895 Source: British Household Panel Survey, last reported current jobs of adults, waves 1-17, N Males = 10223; N Females=9934 X-asis shows ISCO-88 Sub-Major group of job; Y-axisLambert: shows ISCO-88 3rdconf and 4th digit codes. BHPS July 2009 18 2) How an occupational approach to measuring poverty could work • Notion of a latent, underlying, socially embedded occupation as an indirect measure of poverty...? • CAMSIS scales: relative social advantage typically associated with incumbents of occupational positions over lifetime (Stewart et al, 1980) • Non-working have ‘latent’ occupations easily measured by socially significant links (e.g. household sharing; career; parents) • ..this may not be the same as current objective conditions... – Apparently straightforward decision to make defining a threshold level of the average social advantage typically associated with incumbents of the occupational position Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 19 MCAMSIS - BHPS adults' most recent job 0 20 40 50% Med 60 60% Med 80 100 Mean - (1SD - Skew) MCAMSIS - BHPS adults' fathers 0 20 40 50% Med 60 60% Med Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 80 100 Mean - (1SD - Skew) 20 occupation (soc): current main job mean(mcam) N(mcam) 401. Local government clerical officers 440. Stores despatch production control 441. Storekeepers, warehousemen/women 500. Bricklayers, masons fixer 501. Roofers, slaters, tilers, sheeters, 507. Painters and decorators 509. Other construction trades n.e.c. bu 537. Welding trades 553. Sewing machinists, menders, darners 554. Coach trimmers, upholsterers and ma 555. Shoe repairers, leather cutters and 569. Other printing and related trades n 570. Carpenters and joiners 581. Butchers, meat cutters 590. Glass product and ceramics makers 594. Gardeners, groundsmen/women 596. Coach painters, other spray painter 615. Security guards and related occupat 622. Bar staff 721. Retail cash desk and check-out oper 722. Petrol pump forecourt attendants 800. Bakery confectionery process hand f 809. Other food, drink and tobacco proce 820. Chemical, gas and petroleum process 825. Plastic process operatives, moulder 839. Other metal making treating process 840. Machine tool operatives (inc. CNC m 850. Assemblers/lineworkers (electrical/ 851. Assemblers/lineworkers vehicles met 859. Other assemblers/lineworkers poppy 862. Packers, bottlers, canners, fillers 872. Drivers of road goods vehicles 873. Bus and coach drivers 882. Rail drivers railways second 887. Fork lift and mechanical truck driv 896. Construction and related operatives 899. Other plant and machine operatives 900. Farm workers livestock hand 902. All other occupations in farming an 929. Other building and civil engineerin 931. Goods porters 952. Kitchen porters, hands 954. Shelf fillers 958. Cleaners, domestics 990. All other labourers and related wor 38 35.4 36.5 34.3 32.3 31.3 34.7 32.7 31.2 36.8 37.9 38.1 37.9 33.6 29.6 33.4 34.4 38.1 36.1 35 37.3 30.7 28.3 36.3 28.5 28.2 36.5 36.1 36.3 19.6 29.2 33.1 34.5 36.5 28.9 35.7 35.1 30.8 34.4 28.1 32.5 37.9 34.4 34.5 28 96 142 1,259 417 234 206 99 357 338 104 91 178 524 195 118 287 90 468 928 1,034 99 116 363 233 147 97 162 428 209 98 857 1,788 444 101 267 108 581 280 139 250 125 373 416 2,575 162 All jobs, male scale: threshold=38.51 Occupational unit groups with > 90 in BHPS sample Remember that these jobs’ scores are crossclassified by employment status 21 FCAMSIS - BHPS females' most recent job 20 40 50% Med 60 60% Med Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 80 100 Mean - (1SD - Skew) 22 Female jobs, female scale: threshold = 38.45 Occupational unit groups with > 50 females in BHPS sample occupation (soc): current main job mean(fcam) N(fcam) 441. Storekeepers, warehousemen/women 553. Sewing machinists, menders, darners 555. Shoe repairers, leather cutters and 569. Other printing and related trades n 591. Glass product and ceramics finisher 599. Other craft and related occupations 619. Other security protective service o 620. Chefs, cooks hotel supervisor 622. Bar staff 641. Hospital ward assistants 644. Care assistants and attendants old 671. Housekeepers (non-domestic) 672. Caretakers school 673. Launderers, dry cleaners, pressers 722. Petrol pump forecourt attendants 800. Bakery confectionery process hand f 809. Other food, drink and tobacco proce 825. Plastic process operatives, moulder 850. Assemblers/lineworkers (electrical/ 851. Assemblers/lineworkers vehicles met 859. Other assemblers/lineworkers poppy 861. Inspectors viewers testers examiner 862. Packers, bottlers, canners, fillers 899. Other plant and machine operatives 900. Farm workers livestock hand 940. Postal workers, mail sorters 941. Messengers, couriers 952. Kitchen porters, hands 953. Counterhands, catering assistants h 954. Shelf fillers 958. Cleaners, domestics 35.6 27.2 30.3 34 30.9 29.4 30.2 37.2 36.4 32.1 36.7 33.7 27 26.3 38 28 27.3 29.4 32 28.4 29.6 32.1 28.9 28.3 35.3 38.1 36.9 33.9 35.3 37.9 26.9 260 354 61 89 55 44 69 139 654 16 1,758 142 100 114 64 74 139 74 217 64 64 98 576 86 104 91 78 410 813 205 2,374 23 Assigning occupations to all: parsimonious cross-sectional strategy..? 1) Modified Household ‘dominance’ approach • Use the most advantaged occupation within the household, prioritising ft work (e.g. Erikson, 1984), and recognising gender of occupation-holder • For students, parental jobs may be used • For those in household without job.. 2) Retrospective questions on last main job 3) Parental jobs used for those aged < 30 4) ?Possible weighting factor for unemployment dur.? Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 24 Valid data on occupations (BHPS wave 17, excluding NI) Using male CAMSIS threshold=36.0, female threshold=38.5 % poor N men N fem m f 5695 6793 Income based [HH equiv.] 5424 6385 9.1 10.6 (1) [cji] Current job, indv 3869 3832 15.1 11.6 (2) [rji] Current or recent job, indv. 4968 5610 18.9 17.8 (3) [pji] (2) + parents job if <30 & missing, PT or student 5123 5767 18.3 10.4 (4) [cjd] Current Hld dom job 4393 4835 9.2 7.5 (5) [rjd] Current/recent Hhld dom job 5294 6053 10.6 9.3 (6) [pjd] (5) + parent’s job if < 30 & missing, PT or student 5306 6068 11.0 9.8 (93%) (89%) (6) + [hhp] if (6) is missing 5671 6729 11.3 10.6 (99%) (99%) All valid respondents [hhp] (7) [pad] 25 No occupational data - BHPS wave 17 (2007) All adults 1900 1920 1940 1960 doby: year of birth 1 [cji] 1980 2000 1900 1920 2 [rji] 1900 1920 1940 1960 doby: year of birth 1920 1940 1960 doby: year of birth 1980 2000 1900 1920 1920 1940 1960 doby: year of birth 2000 1940 1960 doby: year of birth 1980 2000 1980 2000 5 [rjd] 1980 2000 1900 1920 6 [pjd] 1900 1980 3 [pji] 4 [cjd] 1900 1940 1960 doby: year of birth 1940 1960 doby: year of birth 7 [pad] 1980 2000 1920 Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 1940 1960 doby: year of birth 1980 2000 26 Correlations between measures, BHPS, w17 individuals. These low correlations reflect people making 1 poverty threshold and not another Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 27 Selected correlations with binary poverty indicators BHPS wave 17 excluding NI, N=12448 Correlations*100 qAge Smokes Health Tenure Leisure expend. Tumble drier [cji] current job (n=7701) 6 13 5 15 -6 -1 [rji] recent job (n=10578) 7 16 13 23 -11 -1 (almost) all adults.. [rjd] recent / hhld 8 12 9 20 -10 -4 [pjd] recent / hhld/parent 8 12 9 20 -10 -3 [pad] [pjd] + [eqinc] if miss 10 11 9 18 -11 -5 [pinc] Pers. Income 23 1 4 9 -16 1 [hinc] HHld income 35 3 14 29 -20 -18 [eqinc] Equiv. hhld income 14 7 8 22 -13 -7 28 3) Some preliminary results Who are the ‘poor’ in Britain? % classed as ‘poor’, with significance of correlation (cf. Tsakloglou & Papadopoulos, 2003) [rji] recent job (n=10551) (18%) Retired Sick Young adults Single parents Migrants in year 24* 44* 19 22* 15* (almost) all adults.. [cjd] Current / hhld (8%) 13* 18* 7 9 10 [rjd] recent / hhld (10%) 14* 23* 9 12* 11 [pjd] recent / hhld/ parent (10%) 14* 24* 12 13* 11 [pad] [pjd] + [eqinc] (11%) 14* 24* 12 14* 11 [pinc] Pers. Income (23%) 28 32* 50* 24 25 [hinc] HHld income (14%) 37* 30* 10* 14 8 [eqinc] Equiv. hhld income (10%) 15* 21* 14* 15* 16* Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 29 ..preliminary results.. Determinants of being ‘poor’? Correlations (and significance) with poverty indicators (‘Ethnicity’ = effect proportional scaling of ethgp, ranked by parental CAMSIS) [rji] recent job (n=9379) Parental CAMSIS (r) Own Educ. (r2) Ethnicity (r; UK) Hhld fam type (r2) -20* 11* -1 1* (almost) all adults.. [cjd] Current / hhld -13* 7* -3* 0* [rjd] recent / hhld -15* 8* -3* 1* [pjd] recent / hhld/ parent -18* 8* -3* 1* [pad] [pjd]+[eqinc] -16* 8* -2* 1* [pinc] Pers. Income 0 5* 3* 1* [hinc] HHld income -11* 9* -2* 27* [eqinc] Equiv. hhld income -4* 4* 0 3* Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 30 Logit predictors of being in poverty by alternate measures Variable fem pa_mcam fedhi_c cohab wave retir sick singpar yadult migr N r2_p ll CJI RJI CJD RJD PJD PAD FI_POV HH_POV HE_POV -.21 -4.25 -.024 -12.7 -.14 -27.3 -.056 -.879 -.035 -5.94 -.092 -.374 .51 2.33 .19 2.29 .21 1.9 -.028 -.61 -.1 -2.47 -.023 -15 -.15 -34 -.23 -4.76 -.017 -4.07 .042 .605 .72 7.85 .1 1.55 .065 .736 .09 2.53 -.22 -4.31 -.024 -12.3 -.12 -22.3 .0047 .0635 -.03 -4.64 -.13 -1.01 .31 2.62 .089 .961 -.22 -2.05 .17 3.63 -.18 -4 -.024 -13.8 -.12 -26.2 -.51 -9.27 -.01 -1.94 -.11 -1.37 .45 4.99 -.15 -1.88 -.49 -4.86 .2 4.7 -.16 -3.63 -.031 -17 -.12 -25.4 -.52 -9.57 -.014 -2.66 -.11 -1.41 .44 4.86 -.12 -1.54 -.1 -1.1 .14 3.44 -.14 -3.26 -.028 -16.4 -.11 -25.3 -.5 -9.54 -.015 -2.98 -.12 -1.57 .44 4.96 -.11 -1.43 -.12 -1.25 .13 3.33 1.1 33.9 .0048 4.27 -.075 -22 .63 14.6 -.039 -9.85 .83 14 .82 11.8 -.27 -4.54 2.2 26.5 -.058 -1.55 .3 7.56 -.0034 -2.44 -.066 -17.4 -1.9 -41.7 .033 6.5 .93 14.6 1.1 16.4 -.82 -10.4 -.13 -1.33 .84 19.4 .16 4.4 -.0015 -1.15 -.064 -17 -.36 -7.84 -.017 -3.24 .57 8.51 .94 14.3 .43 7 .26 3.06 .62 15.9 61290 .11 -23042 92577 .13 -40770 73167 .082 -21402 95207 .1 -30084 95322 .11 -30712 97728 .1 -32063 95457 .14 -44784 94560 .27 -28542 94560 .071 -29187 legend: b/ (Model shows coefficient B and t statistics for logit models predicting whether individuals are in poverty by alternative measures. BHPS waves 9-17 with HW standard error adjustment. Additional controls for age, gender). Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 31 Logit predictors of escape from poverty (given in poverty last year) Variable fem pa_mcam fedhi_c owner lcohab cohab N r2_p ll e_CJI e_RJI e_CJD e_RJD e_PJD e_PAD e_FI_~V e_HH_~V e_HE_~V -.24 -2.62 .0069 2.06 .047 4.56 .26 2.85 -.091 -.547 .07 .411 -.31 -4.06 .0099 3.59 .076 8.91 .56 7.53 -.15 -1.16 .077 .586 .19 2.4 .0051 1.74 .034 3.89 .21 2.63 .01 .0687 .1 .684 .15 2.03 .0069 2.47 .04 4.7 .46 6.09 -.14 -1.08 .49 3.74 .076 1.02 .012 4.11 .031 3.74 .34 4.65 -.021 -.159 .54 4.14 .15 2.03 .015 5.47 .042 5.03 .46 6.21 -.038 -.295 .49 3.8 -.99 -16.6 -.0037 -1.97 .083 14.6 -.51 -8.97 .25 2.02 -.74 -5.78 -.12 -1.92 .0023 1.08 .03 4.94 .54 8.39 -.39 -3.6 1.8 17 -.11 -1.78 .00015 .0728 .036 5.76 .26 4.15 -.16 -1.39 .4 3.39 7921 16644 6161 9418 9667 10132 18992 12516 8638 -3693 -5705 -3632 -4704 -4797 -5261 -10162 -6623 -5754 legend: b/t (Model shows coefficient B and t statistics for random effects logit models (xtlogit) predicting whether individuals leave poverty given they were in the previous year, by alternative measures. BHPS waves 9-17. Additional controls for age, gender). Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 32 Poverty profiles 1999-2007: BHPS, 2007 0 1 2 3 4 Never in poverty 1999-2007, N= 1-2k CJI RJI CJD RJD PJD FI HH HE PAD % Female Age/100 Fath. CAMSIS % Smokers % Own/buy home Leis. exp/5 Mostly in poverty 1999-2007, N=40-307 0 0 .2 .5 .4 1 .6 1.5 .8 2 In and out of poverty 1999-2007, N=500-1000 CJI RJI CJD RJD PJD FI HH HE PAD CJI RJI CJD RJD PJD FI Lambert: BHPS conf July 2009 HH HE PAD 33 4) Conclusions ‘Escape from social disadvantage’ and occupations • Occupational measures as feasible indirect indicators of relative poverty/disadvantage for the whole population • Reduce demographic/life-stage influence cf. income measures • Measurement challenges • Reflecting current circumstances [vulnerability to poverty, Gordon 2006] • Other alternative measures (e.g. using Unemployment data) • The concept of poverty • Implicitly absolute concept? • Implicitly longitudinal (a thing to escape), but is this over-optimistic? • Measurement & social science disciplines [Grusky & Kanbur 2007] • What determines social disadvantage/poverty? • • • • Disadvantage is more stable than income-based measures show Education and social background matters more than is recognised Family status / demographics matter less ‘Welfare to work’ is flawed? 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