The 2008-9 crisis and developing countries: implications for poverty Frances Stewart 1 The 1980s: a contrast • 1980s in LA and Africa, especially, disastrous crisis for economy and for poor. Asia only mildly affected. • 1980s: IMF policies reaction to the crisis; cutbacks. • Almost no safety nets. Some national ones, and a few social funds created, but too little too late. • 1980s crisis lasted WHOLE decade: the ‘lost decade’. • Is it different this time? I think it is in a number of ways: 2 Source of crisis, 1980s: debt and high interest rates • • • • Countries started with huge debts Budgetary and current account deficits; Crisis largely confined to areas with accumulated debt. Today, NOT a debt crisis. Low interest rates. 3 Not a debt crisis: LA data External debt, gross and net of foreign exchange reserves % of GDP at 2000 parity exchange rates 45.0% 40.0% 35.0% 30.0% 25.0% 20.0% 15.0% 10.0% 5.0% 0.0% 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 Deuda externa 2004 2005 Neta de reservas 2006 2007 2008 4 5 Today • Source is financial collapse and recession in developed countries • Knock on impact in trade volumes and terms of trade, capital flows, remittances. • Varied impact depending on dependence on trade, private capital, aid, remittances 6 7 M 20 1 03 M 20 5 03 M 20 9 04 M 20 1 04 M 20 5 04 M 20 9 05 M 20 1 05 M 20 5 05 M 20 9 06 M 20 1 06 M 20 5 06 M 20 9 07 M 20 1 07 M 20 5 07 M 20 9 08 M 20 1 08 M 20 5 08 M 20 9 09 M 20 1 09 M 5 20 03 Metals and fuels fell most: agricultural products less Commodity prices (1995=100) 250 No energéticos 200 Energéticos 150 100 50 0 8 Latin America Gains and losses from terms of trade (% of GDP) 25.0% 20.0% 15.0% 10.0% 2003-2007 2003-2008 5.0% -10.0% HON CR NIC PAN URU ELS GUA RDOM PAR BRA MEX ARG COL PER ECU CHI BOL -5.0% VEN 0.0% 9 Aid sustained, but for how long? 10 Capital flows fell, but mainly portfolio, FDI held up 11 Falls in remittances 12 Dependence on remittances varies • • • • Over 12% of GDP, Philippines Under 1%, Thailand. Kenya, over 5% S.Africa, less than ½% 13 Impact varied by region and country • • • • Main shock for LA was trade shock (- 30% value in 2008; vol -15%). Sub-Saharan Africa: Fuel and mineral producers negatively affected SSA, food producers much less. Asia affected by portfolio capital, remittances and trade. Still variations. Remittances >12% for Philippines; and <1% for Thailand. Walmart effect for some (Bangladesh; Sri Lanka.) 14 Varied impact –China and India slowdown but continued high growth; –Botswana and Gabon negative; –Kenya, Mali, Rwanda positive; –Bolivia and Colombia positive growth; –Mexico, Venezuela, Argentina negative 15 GDP fell: East and central Europe and CIS worst affected; Asia least 16 GDP growth selected Africa countries: mixed experience 5% -5% Source: IMF World Economic Outlook database 17 GDP growth in selected LA countries:again mixed 5% -5% Source: IMF World Economic Outlook database 18 Growth of GDP: selected Asian countries 5% Source: IMF World Economic Outlook database 19 And China and India sustained high growth rates 10 6 2 Source: IMF World Economic Outlook database 20 But Eastern Europe almost all collapsed 5% -5% Source: IMF World Economic Outlook database -15% 21 Reaction to crisis very different from 1980s • • • Fiscal stimulus in developed countries; leading to shortlived recession? Stimulus in many developing countries as well as developed Strong in Asia. But also in LA countries, Middle East, and Nigeria and South Africa. Vietnam 5% of GDP; China and Korea over 2%. Mainly via expenditure. 22 Impact on poverty • Depends on public and private entitlements • Public entitlements broadly sustained as public expenditure was sustained mostly (not Eastern Europe), partly due to stimulus 23 24 Private entitlements worse affected • • • Declining industrial production and formal sector employment. ILO estimates increase in unemployment of 39-59 million (6.3% to 7.1% 2007-9, globally. Rise in share of informal sector work (48.4% to 53% according to ILO). Suffered from falling remittances 25 Employment in Latin America Employment variation (points of the working age population) 0.8 0.6 0.4 0.2 0 2007Q1 2007Q2 2007Q3 2007Q4 2008Q1 2008Q2 2008Q3 2008Q4 2009Q1 -0.2 -0.4 -0.6 26 Poverty? • • Very little hard data – scandalous! Estimates show rise compared with counterfactual: DFID 90M. extra; WB 4653m; UN DESA, 102m = 1.9% of poor. 27 Seems less bad than 1980s? Why? – Many more and more extensive safety nets and supports in place – conditional transfers extensive; national employment guarantee scheme; social insurance. STILL MANY LEFT OUT, BUT MANY MORE INCLUDED. – Instead of IMF induced cuts, there has been expansion respectable because adopted in West. Less countries going to IMF. 28 Stimulus positive impact on poor • • • Stimulus used mainly for expenditure, and quite often for transfers to poor. Infrastructure expenditure which created jobs; In some cases special programmes for poor: e.g. China, Indonesia, Korea, Philippines and Thailand – via voucher schemes; school feeding (WB 2000). 29 Compared with 1980s: – Recovery seems much quicker. Crisis shorter. Signs of recovery in Europe/US; and also more strongly in Asia. Commodity prices recovering, especially food. – Will there be another dip? Impact of debt resulting from stimulus; and ‘orthodox’ reaction to this. – One thing has NOT changed: still no up to date data on poor Just like 1980s. – So this may be too complacent. 30 The Philippines, Social Weather Station Data does have data – Hunger rising (also due to food prices), – But not self-rated poverty. – Only one fifth of hungry being helped by government. 31 The Philippines 32 33 Most affected most helped but 80% not helped 34 General lessons: 1 • • • • Countries more in control of own destiny. Benefited from developed countries also being affected and unorthodox policies. But still no automatic stabilisers nor automatic protection for the poor in most countries. More heterogeneity in both impact and recovery. More difficult to come to simple comprehensive prescriptions. 35 General lessons: 2 • In near future: • Need to avoid expenditure cutbacks induced by orthodox reaction to extra debt from stimulus and recession. • Need continued protection for aid. • Need to extend social protection to everyone, including employment schemes. • And support extensive social protection in normal development process, not wait until a crisis to put it in effect. 36 General lessons: 3 • And need better information on poor URGENTLY. • Need GLOBAL IMPACT AND VULNERABILITY ALERT SYSTEM to get detailed local results which can be acted upon. 37