Developing Harmonised European Approaches for Transport Costing and Project Assessment (HEATCO) Contract FP6-2002-SSP-1/502481 Third plenary meeting 15/16 September 2005 ITS, Leeds DRAFT Minutes Attendees: Adam Torok Thomas Odgaard Yngve Traedal Christoph Lieb Max Herry Patrizia Fagiani Charlotte Kelly James Laird Gerard de Jong George Arampatzis Ludek Sosna Adela Krenkova Arnaud Burgess Alistair Hunt Rainer Friedrich Peter Bickel BUTE COWI E-CO Ecoplan Herry (Friday only) ISIS ITS ITS ITS (Thursday only) NTUA Sudop Sudop TNO UBath IER IER Apologies: Catharina Sikow Ofelia Betancor Peter Mackie Gunnar Lindberg DG TREN EIT ITS VTI Page 1 of 7 HEATCO Third Plenary Meeting 15/16 September 2005 Thursday 15 September Preliminary results of meta-analysis of VoT studies Gerard presented preliminary results of a meta-analysis of VoT studies for passenger and freight transport (see presentation). One of the remaining tasks is to test the applicability for benefit transfer by applying the estimated equations to various countries and comparing with national results from studies. Current status of the project Rainer presented the status of the project, including the timing. Going through the task list from the kick-off meeting minutes he concluded that all tasks were carried out. There is some delay in the overall schedule, in particular for the surveys in WP5, which is mainly due to administrative problems with transferring money. Catharina provided feedback on the draft of deliverable D2, which were forwarded to the respective partners. One issue was clarification of the relationship between CBA and MCDA, which Alistair addressed already. A revised draft will be circulated and submitted asap. Yngve informed that there is some budget for surveys left and suggested to use a part of it to carry out a survey on valuation of aircraft noise in Budapest. The study will be part of a PHDstudy at BUTE. The consortium agreed on this plan. Furthermore Catharina agreed in a telephone discussion with Rainer. Action 3/1: Circulate revised draft of D2 and submit to the Commission IER, asap WP4 Proposal for harmonised guidelines Alistair presented recommendations with respect to general issues (see presentation). Among others the following issues were discussed: discount rates o include declining long-term discount rates in the recommendations; o if local values for discount rates are used, the recommendation for trans-national projects should be to use the average of the affected countries; o a recommendation has to be given, whether different discount rates should be used for different impacts; non-monetised (better term than “non-monetary”) impacts o present in qualitative or quantitative terms alongside evidence on the monetised impacts; do not recommend a sensitivity analysis based on switching values here; decision criteria o use NPV and RNPSS; appraisal evaluation period o what to recommend for time after the end of the appraisal evaluation period of 40 years: use eternal benefits/reinvestment or residual value? risk and uncertainty o sensitivity or scenario analysis for non-probabilistic risks, o at minimum, use of expected values for probabilistic based analysis Page 2 of 7 HEATCO Third Plenary Meeting 15/16 September 2005 producer surplus o include changes in revenues and fuel taxes James can provide text ITS has written for the World Bank marginal cost of public funds o do not include shadow pricing However, the final decision on the recommendations is with Alistair. Arnaud can provide growth forecast data, which can be used as input for calculating future discount rates. Arnaud circulated the data after the meeting. James presented the recommendations for VoT (see presentation). Among others, James defined a “minimum approach” for each category of values, on which the values must be based. In this context it was discussed how to treat national values if they do not comply with this minimum approach. With respect to the acceptability of the harmonised guidelines by national stakeholders it would be difficult to prescribe the use of default values based on benefit transfer rather than the national values for example. Peter suggested recommending the obligatory use of default values with the option to use own values in addition (see presentation). This would ensure comparability of results between countries (e.g. for the European Commission) while giving still the possibility to use national values. For the specific recommendations for safety and environmental costs see Peter’s presentation. Friday 16 September WP4 continued Thomas presented the recommendations for costs and indirect impacts of infrastructure investment (see presentation). Max asked whether the new EU guideline on calculation of construction, maintenance and operation cost would be considered in the recommendations. It was agreed that it is beyond the scope of the HEATCO project to provide concrete values according to the EU guideline. However, the same terminology should be used. Max agreed to send the document to Thomas. With respect to optimism bias following suggestions of Bent Flyvbjerg are relevant for us: benchmark projects and use reference class forecasting (recommend “side analysis”; if problematic: possibility to get independent reviews of all cost and benefit analysis undertaken for the project). Action 3/2: Send EU guideline document to Thomas Max, asap Peter presented a suggestion for outline and scope of deliverable D5 (see presentation). It was agreed to avoid the term “handbook”, because this could raise expectations beyond what HEATCO will be able to provide. The HEATCO guidelines will be a proposal, which, in order to be broadly accepted and applied, will go through a process of detailed discussion with na- Page 3 of 7 HEATCO Third Plenary Meeting 15/16 September 2005 tional authorities, resulting in a number of revisions. The final product of this process would be a handbook, but will only be finished after the end of HEATCO. With respect to the suggested outline it was agreed to go for the main text (“part 2” in the draft outline) first; if this is not too long we can skip the short version (“part 1”). Worked examples (“part 3”) will be subject of deliverable D6; to give recommendations and a short justification; a detailed justification can be given as annex or reference; however, the document should be understandable to people familiar with infrastructure assessment in itself; to provide simple examples for illustration where helpful In a phone discussion with Rainer after the meeting Catharina confirmed the following: The guidelines should be a stand alone document, i.e. it should contain recommendations about the methods/ approaches to use and also concrete default values for parameters. In addition, an explanation or justification for the recommendations should be included, which could, if it is rather lengthy, be transferred to an annex. A reference to another deliverable (D2) of HEATCO is not possible. If the workshop results in some recommendations to change the guideline, D5 could and should be changed/adjusted afterwards (even if it is already accepted). The main use of the guidelines should be for projects where a financial contribution from the EC is wanted, and for transnational projects. The comparison or ranking of different projects (in different parts of the EU) is at least officially not a central purpose. Following schedule was agreed for the preparation of D5: partners send their contributions to IER by 18 November; IER compiles the deliverable and circulates the draft by 25 November; partners send their comments within a week; IER revises draft if necessary and submits. Action 3/3: Prepare contributions to D5 and send to IER Alistair, Peter Mackie, James, Peter B., Thomas, 18/11/05 Action 3/4: Compile D5, circulate for comments IER, 25/11/05 Action 3/5: Send comments on D5 draft all partners, 02/12/05 Action 3/6: Revise D5, submit to EC IER, 09/12/05 WP2 Support consensus Arnaud summarised the work so far and suggested to hold the second workshop (as the first one) as a one day event, with a consortium meeting on the following day to discuss the results. The date suggested is 30/31 March 2006 (Thursday/Friday), with 23/24 March as fallback option. In a phone discussion after the meeting Rainer and Catharina agreed the following: To the second workshop we will invite only country representatives (from respective ministries or from administration) for an intensive discussion with member states. Catharina will advertise this workshop in the next TEN committee meeting. To get some attendance, it is of utmost importance, that the HEATCO partners personally contact the representative partners for the countries, that have been allocated to them, and motivate them to come. For a limited number of participants, especially from the new member states, it is possible to offer some funding for travel costs, if necessary. Catharina might be able to provide a meeting room in the EC confer- Page 4 of 7 HEATCO Third Plenary Meeting 15/16 September 2005 ence center, if we would need it. Preliminary date (March 30) is ok, Catharina will however check, whether there are other events at that date. For the final conference, we should invite a broader audience and have to look for a conference room ourselves. One or two presentations from member states would be welcome. A date in May should be fixed as soon as possible. James suggested for the workshop that we might consider giving a platform to representatives from case study countries to give their view on the case studies. Arnaud commented on the draft “5-pager” that it was not appropriate to be distributed to the country contacts. He agreed to draft a revised version (cut down, less technical) within ca. 6 weeks. Action 3/7: Contact country contacts (ministries and administration) and convince to attend the workshop all partners, as soon as workshop details are fixed Action 3/8: Send revised version of “5-pager” to partners and Catharina Arnaud, 04/11/05 WP5 Surveys Yngve gave an overview of the surveys conducted in terms of content and organisation (see presentation). The issue of transferring money to EIT for paying a survey firm, was solved in the meantime. Alistair gave an overview of preliminary results (see presentation). It was agreed to submit deliverable D4 in time, even if it is not complete. Catharina will then reject the deliverable and give some time to close the gaps. A draft of D4 has been circulated in the meantime. As mentioned above, it was agreed to carry out a survey on aircraft noise in Budapest. WP6 Case studies Peter presented an overview of the suggested case studies (see presentation). He will circulate a revised note on the suggested case studies to the partners involved. Then he will send it to Catharina, hoping to get the “ok” as soon as possible to be able to start with the data collection. In addition, Peter will circulate a list of required input data for calculation of safety and environmental costs. James suggested, when collecting case study data, asking people on specific problems encountered, because projects are European projects (e.g. problems with different legislation/regulations in different countries). This would provide added value to the work package results. Action 3/9: Send revised note on case study selection to partners involved and to Catharina Peter, 04/11/05 Page 5 of 7 HEATCO Third Plenary Meeting 15/16 September 2005 Action 3/10: Circulate list of input data required for safety and environmental costs Peter, 09/11/05 Next meeting ISIS offered to host the next consortium meeting on 07/08 February 2006 in Rome. Main objective of the meeting will be discussion of deliverables D4, D5 and D6, and preparation of the workshop. Action list Meeting No Action 3 1 Circulate revised draft of D2 and submit to the Commission 3 2 Send EU guideline document to Thomas 3 3 Prepare contributions to D5 and send to IER 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 5 6 7 Responsible IER Max Herry Alistair, Peter Mackie, James, Peter B., Thomas Compile D5, circulate for comments IER Send comments on D5 draft all partners Revise D5, submit to EC IER Contact country contacts (ministries and administration) all partners and convince to attend the workshop 8 Send revised version of “5-pager” to partners and Catharina Arnaud 9 Send revised note on case study selection to partners in- Peter volved and to Catharina 10 list of input data required for safety and environmental costs Peter Page 6 of 7 Target date asap asap 18/11/05 25/1105 02/12/05 09/12/05 as soon as workshop details are fixed 04/11/05 04/11/05 09/11/05 Annex Third Plenary Meeting Developing Harmonised European Approaches for Transport Costing and Project Assessment (HEATCO) - Contract FP6-2002-SSP-1/502481 15th/16th of September 2005 ITS Leeds Agenda Thursday 15 September 13:30 h Welcome Peter M., James 13:40 h Current status of the project Rainer 13:50 h Preliminary results of meta-analysis of VoT studies Gerard de Jong (ITS) WP4: Proposal for harmonised guidelines main principles and values recommended: 14:50 h general issues Alistair 15:10 h value of time James 15:20 h safety + environment Peter B. 15:35 h infrastructure costs Thomas 15:45 h Coffee break 16:00 h discussion (consistency, gaps ...?) 16:30 h all scope and form of the guidelines (D5): level of detail, length, form of presentation 18:00 h Administrative issues Peter B., all Peter B. 18:30 h End Friday 16 September WP2: Support consensus 9:00 h - information of national contacts ("5-pager") - preparation of 2nd workshop (date, …) 10:15 Coffee break 10:30 WP5 Surveys - status and preliminary results Arnaud Yngve, Alistair 12:00 h Lunch 12:30 h WP6 Case studies - decision on case studies, distribution of work, schedule 14:00 h End Page 1 of 7 Peter B., Patrizia, Thomas, James, George, all