Town Hall Meeting Minutes Congressman David Scott August 1, 2009 Widening and Realignment of SR 92 in Douglasville Congressman David Scott held a Town Hall Meeting on August 1, 2009 to discuss the proposed widening and realignment of SR 92 in Douglasville. Scheduled to take place from 10:00am to 12:00pm, the meeting continued until 2:00pm to ensure that all questions and concerns were addressed. Project overviews and presentations providing support of the project were delivered by Congressman Scott, Georgia Department of Transportation (GDOT) Board Member Dana Lemon, Douglasville Mayor Mickey Thompson, Douglasville City Manager Bill Osborne, Douglasville Councilwoman Callye Burk Holmes, Douglasville Councilwoman LaShun Burr Danley, and GDOT’s Neal O’Brien (see attached agenda). After the presentations, the floor was opened to all citizens who wanted to ask questions or express concerns regarding the SR 92 projects. Approximately 29 citizens provided questions or comments. Twenty-eight of the 29 commentors expressed support for the project. The following is a summarization of each of the questions and comments expressed. When applicable, the comments are followed in italics with the response received at the meeting. 1. Commissioner Kelly Robinson, Douglas County Board of Commissioners – Commissioner Robinson expressed his support for the project. The SR 92 project is a very important project extending through three Douglas County districts. We have a vision for Douglas County which speaks to a better, wellbalanced life. Specifically, around a better community, more villages right down that corridor. This is so important from an infra-structure perspective because it will pave the way. I appreciate you coming here, sharing, and being open to this. Government should be about this. This is a great accountability meeting. We appreciate you being here and opening yourself up. You have my support. 2. Mr. Mike Stephens, Chair-elect Douglasville-Douglas County Chamber of Commerce – Mr. Stephens offered his and the Chamber’s support for the project. We believe the project is vital to the improvement of our community and the traffic flow through our downtown corridor, in addition to taking some of the traffic of Highway 92 South and Campbellton Street, which is truly a residential street. It Page 1 really provides tremendous opportunity to also continue to improve the downtown corridor, continue to focus energy and effort on bringing people to downtown, not to pass through but because they want to spend money, time and energy on our community. We are very much in favor of the project. We are also in favor of the project because of the economic development opportunity it provides the northern part of our county. We appreciate the opportunities. 3. Ms. Rhonda Muhammad, North Side Resident – As a north Douglasville resident, it has been her feeling that the north side has been historically underserved and disenfranchised. She wants to be sure that this project, which will largely serve Paulding County and South Douglas County, will not significantly affect the north side community. As such, Ms. Muhammad expressed five primary concerns: 1) due to the economy and housing market, suitable replacement housing for the displacements may be difficult to find, particularly for low-income renters, 2) access should be provided between the new roadway and the fire station located on the east side of existing SR 92, just south of Autrey Circle, 3) concerns about the senior citizen displacements, some of whom may paid off their mortgages and cannot afford a new mortgage, 4) concerns about the quality of life for those remaining in the community that are not displaced, and 5) making the process clear to the community so that they can decide what remediation need to be made. Congressman Scott, the Mayor Mickey Thompson, and Deputy Commissioner Gerald Ross each assured the public that this project would not proceed until the people of the north side community and others affected by the project are satisfied with the project and that adverse effects to the community are mitigated. The next step in project development is to engage the community and develop a plan to address the community’s concern. The displacements will be provided assistance in finding appropriate replacement housing. Congressman Scott asked that his office be provided data regarding the displacements, specifically the number and location of the elderly and minority displacements. He also asked that visual representations could be provided for future meetings so that the community would have a better idea of what is proposed. Congressman Scott asked that Ms. Mohammad work with his Chief of Staff, Michael Andel, so that the Congressman’s office can be assured that all of her concerns were met. Ms. Mohammad agreed to join the Congressman in a driving tour of the proposed alignment after the Town Hall Meeting so that she could point out the areas of her concern. 4. Mr. Randy Hulsey, Transportation Director, Douglas County Department of Transportation – Mr. Hulsey stated that the county’s new comprehensive plan lists transportation as the county’s number one priority and that the plan further lists the SR 92 project as the number one transportation priority. This prioritization was approved by both the city and the county. Mr. Hulsey emphasized that the project is important for safety, mobility, and economic development. Regarding safety, a grade separated railroad crossing is Page 2 desperately needed to accommodate emergency vehicles. Regarding mobility, SR 92 is the most dominant regional mobility corridor in the county. The Atlanta Regional Commission has identified SR 92 on the regional arterial grid system and the regional strategic transportation system network. As such, this is a regional project that needs regional focus and emphasis. Regarding economic development, this project is a potential growth opportunity that would help correct the historic disenfranchisement of the area north of the railroad tracks that has occurred due to limited access from the railroad barrier. Congressman Scott asked that Mr. Hulsey work with the State (GDOT) and Douglasville decision-makers to satisfy some of the issues that Ms. Muhammad raised. 5. Pastor Artis Crum, Light & Salvation Church – Pastor Crum is a pastor at a church with a day care center. The church and daycare center is negatively affected every day that the project is delayed. The volume and speed of the existing traffic is dangerous and the delays waiting to get in and out of the road is very excessive. We need an immediate solution. Pastor Crum is also concerned for friends that have a day care and businesses at Big Lots. Congressman Scott asked that a traffic cop be provided first thing Monday morning at the daycare. Mayor Thompson agreed to provide one. 6. Mr. Simpson, Simpson and Daughters Mortuary – Mr. Simpson emphasized that we are no longer in the country. We are urban now, we are downtown and we need to act like it! We need to be patient, cooperate, and learn to work together. 7. Mr. John Sell, New Area Manager for Georgia Power, New Member Douglas County Chamber of Commerce – Mr. Sell emphasized that the project was needed for safety and economic development for the north side of Douglasville. The project is needed so that Georgia Power can get across the tracks to respond to emergencies in the community. Mr. Sell emphasized that transportation is the #1 priority in Douglas County and that the SR 92 project was the #1 prioritized transportation project. He emphasized that he, along with Georgia Power and the Chamber of Commerce, support the project. 8. Ms. Rochelle Springer, on behalf of her parents, residents of the north side community – Ms. Springer is concerned about her elderly parents, Harold and Annie Bell Springer, who have lived at 7950 Dallas Highway for 45 years and will be displaced by the project. For several years she has been doing as directed by GDOT – obtaining appraisals and preparing for the move. They have postponed improvements due to the schedule uncertainty. Now they are concerned because of the market turn. They are concerned that they will be offered less than what it was appraised for a couple of years ago. Ms. Springer’s parents are also affected by the existing traffic on Dallas Highway, which is Page 3 terrible. Ms. Springer is also concerned about their neighbor, Mr. Scottie Spencer who will also be displaced by the project. Deputy Commissioner Gerald Ross assured Ms. Springer that we have his commitment to keep this project on its current schedule, which is to begin right-ofway acquisition in June, 2011. However, we need public input to proceed. Assistance will be provided to determine who may meet the early right-of-way acquisition criteria. At Congressman Scott’s request, names and contact numbers of people interested in early acquisitions were taken by GDOT representatives for further coordination. Mr. Osborne emphasized that anyone that may be interested in early right-of-way acquisition should also fill out comment forms. 9. Ms. Sharon Nettles, Fulgham Drive Homeowner – Ms. Nettles wanted to be assured that the residents of Fulgham Drive would be treated fairly and not just pushed out of their homes. 10. Mayor Mickey Thompson, City of Douglasville – Mayor Thompson expressed the City’s support of the project. The City of Douglasville has hired Croy Engineering to make sure that those people affected by the project receive the information. The City has spent $2.7 million on this project so far and the City considers it a wise investment. Mayor Thompson also expressed appreciation for the $6 million Congressional earmark. Congressman Scott, Mr. David Johnson from Congressman Scott’s office, and Ms. Marcia Hampton from the City of Douglasville emphasized the importance of the written comment forms. 11. Mr. Esau Birdsong, Resident at 7841 Dallas Hwy – Has lived on the intersection of Dallas Highway and Brown Street since March of 1959. This project is critical for safety, traffic and for the railroad crossing. The traffic is terrible. We need change and we need to move on even though some may not be happy. We just need to up the schedule so that it happens in his lifetime and we need to make sure that everyone is treated fairly. 12. Ms. Thelma Bennett, North Side Resident – Ms. Bennett works at a day care center on SR 92. The traffic is too dangerous, too bad. Lives, jobs and mortgages could be lost. We need a traffic light or a traffic cop right now. Deputy Commissioner Gerald Ross assured Ms. Bennett that an evaluation will be done starting next week to see if a signal is warranted or what else can be done to alleviate the problem. 13. Ms. Kim Banks, Owner of Majestic Learning Center, 6625 Brown Street – Ms. Banks’ business will be directly impacted by the proposed alignment but not displaced. She offered support for the project and stated that it was needed due to the traffic and the difficulties getting on and off existing SR 92. Page 4 Congressman Scott emphasized the importance of the upcoming community meetings which are expected to occur in September. At the community meetings we will meet with the neighborhood, listen to the concerns, and figure out how to address and mitigate them. We expect to have the Public Information Open House no less than 2 months from now and no more than 3 months from now. Congressman Scott hopes to attend; however, it depends on his schedule in Washington. 14. Mr. James Vance, Resident – Mr. Vance indicated that he wished to talk with Mr. Hulsey and would meet up with him after the meeting. 15. City Councilmember John R. Schildroth, Ward 4 – Mr. Schildroth has been waiting to see this project for 25 years. The project is needed for safety reasons. The project has his full support and the full support of the City Council. Please expedite the process. 16. Ms. Chantel Small, Resident – The project is needed for safety and the efficiency of emergency vehicles. She lives at the intersection of Huey and East Strickland. She and her five year old have witnessed many accidents and speeding trucks. The efficiency of the project is important to help those people on the north side of the tracks who have been disenfranchised. Make it fast. Ms. Small has a disability and is a single mom with a five year old. Emergency vehicles need to come to her house on the north side of the tracks about twice a year. Questions and Concerns: How will Durelee Lane intersect with the new SR 92? There is an existing pedestrian crossing between the Eastside Elementary School Complex and the apartment buildings right across from there. Will the pedestrian crossing remain? Congressman Scott re-emphasized that this project needs to be completed quickly. A residential area has become a truck route and that needs to be rectified. 17. Mr. Terrence Smith, on behalf of Ms. Brandy Grant, Resident of Avalon Township – Communication of the upcoming community meetings is very important. Because of the elderly and high traffic speeds in the area, it is important that we have bigger signs than what is typically done and posted in lots of places. He appreciated the e-mail from Councilmember Holmes informing him of the Town Hall Meeting. Gerald Ross stated that a meeting would be held next week to determine. Congressman Scott again re-emphasized the importance of the upcoming community meetings and advised the project team to find the community leaders to help to get the word out about the upcoming meetings. The Congressman also offered the services of his office to help get the word out about the upcoming meetings. Page 5 18. Councilwoman Callye Burke Holmes, Ward 3 – I wanted to take the opportunity to explain what the Environmental Justice piece is for those who might be wondering. This project will affect a lot of citizens but it boils down to race because the Hispanic community and African American community are amongst those most affected. One reason why there is a lot of delay in the Environmental Justice piece is because we need to hear from the citizens. And each time a meeting is held, we have – this is the largest turnout that I am aware of since 2006. Councilwomen Danly and I personally walked this neighborhood, been door-to-door, business to business, to bring in our Hispanic Community because we also need to hear from them. So the Environmental Justice piece does have a lot to do with race. And so, when you think of things being delayed or postponed, it is because this project cannot move forward until they hear from every ethnic group which is the Environmental Justice piece. On behalf of the Federal Highway Commission, who pays for 80% of this project, they were not able to come because of previous plans. And so, with some advance notice and working with GDOT and Congressman Scott’s office we should be able to move forward but if we can stick together and come out in droves to give our input, whatever it is, that is a major concern. The next thing I wanted to discuss is the importance of the businesses on SR 92. Congressman Scott, there is also a concern once the bypass is completed, what’s going to happen to the small businesses between Malone Road and Strickland Street and the families there? I know that there is a wheelchair population from Malone Road to North Dallas Highway/SR92, a small group but they are still wheelchair bound so we have a wheelchair population that need to get back and forth to medical services besides postal services and groceries. So those are some of the major concerns and I don’t know if some of these folks are here but hopefully they’ll bring those things up in the comment area. Thank you Congressman Scott and I would like to put a plea to everyone to please participate. That is the only way that we can move forward from this point and that has been the major delay since the project has begun, not enough input. Congressman Scott offered his thanks to City Officials who were responsible for the wonderful turn-out at the Town Hall Meeting. 19. Ms. Spencer, daughter of North side residents, Mr. and Ms. Scotty Spencer – Thanks for the opportunity to comment. I recognize the opportunities for economic development and the traffic issues that we deal with as a resident to be displaced but I do have some personal concerns. Besides the residences that may have no mortgages or may have property that do not have values that are going to appraise enough to warrant a right-of-way value to get them something comparable. Or folks that are wanting to do repairs on their home but are waiting that out. There are also residents in the area, like ourselves, that have mortgages on the property that exceeds what the current right-of-way values are and we want to make sure that this is addressed appropriately as well because it is not our fault that the market took a downturn and we decided to do upgrades on our Page 6 home prior to hearing about the place this project is at and I wanted to make sure that we are not displaced owing on a mortgage and having to make a new mortgage as well. Deputy Commissioner Gerald Ross assured Mr. Spencer that the project will stay on its current schedule of June 2011 for right-of-way acquisition, which is two years away. He stated that it has been the Department’s experience that the downturns of property occurs at the replacement structure also. He also stated that he has options regarding displacement reimbursements that the people in his right-of-way office do not. Mr. Ross stated that early right-of-way acquisition may also be available to the elderly or those with health issues. Congressman Scott stated that fairness is the top concern. 20. Pastor James Montford – Pastor Montford pastors people in the project area and expressed concerns for the senior citizens who would be displaced by the project. He also expressed concerns for the safety of the children and elderly at “the Honey Hole” (the public housing community adjacent to Jessie Davis Park), as well as concerns for the impacts that the project would have on Jessie Davis Park. Neal O’Brien, GDOT, stated that the only impacts anticipated to the park would be a minor change in access to the park. 21. Ms. Sara Whitaker, a long-time north side resident and mother of Councilwoman LaShun Danley – Many years ago her house burnt completely to the ground because emergency vehicles could not get over the tracks in time to save anything. Keep the project moving! 22. Councilman Terry Miller, Ward 5 – This is a project of regional significance and one of the things we learn in architecture school is patience because just because you design something and draw up the plans it doesn’t mean they’ll build it very quickly or forever for that matter. This community has been very, very patient for quite a number of years. Since then, it has moved along. A balance has to be drawn between expediency and care and I think that is a great deal of what we are seeing although some may like to see it a little faster. It is imperative that we move it as quickly as possible and I’m glad that you are here taking resident’s concerns into account and making this a good project from top to bottom. 23. Pastor Willy Allman and Ms. Beverly Allman – Although Ms. Allman supports the project, she is concerned about people who may be displaced from a more rural setting and do not wish to be relocated to a sub-division. Pastor Allman is happy to see that the project is moving forward. Congressman Scott was confident that there would be a large range of replacement housing available for those that do not wish to live in a subdivision. It was emphasized that the people will be able to choose where they relocate to. Page 7 Mr. Ross stated that the Department would assist the people who are displaced to find something as good or better than their current situation. 24. Mr. Sam Davis, north side resident and business owner – Some of you may not know me but Jessie Davis Park was named after my father, my mother Beulah still lives on the north side, I reside on the north side, and I have a business on the north side, The Barber Zone where David Scott always comes for a visit and sends Christmas cards and invites and it is always a pleasure. This is a move that we need to make and I welcome that move because if we don’t do it now, we will never see it and I’m gonna make sure you can come in the barber shop any time you get ready, my doors are always open and you can come in with your comments and we will write them out, sign them, give them to me, and I will make sure they get to the right individual. I will make sure that your comment is heard and those that will be relocated, don’t worry, smile because this is an opportunity and a chance of a lifetime that we’ve been needing on the north side. And, it’s going to affect me because I have cars all the time passing my barber shop. I’m not going to cry. I’m just going to have to go to another plan. I’m going to step it up, make it happen! I’m not going to hold back progress. I want to see, I want to live here when they build the condos in downtown Douglasville. I want to buy one of those condos and live downtown and walk my dog. So I see the plan, it’s going to happen. So people get ready, fasten your seatbelt, we are getting ready to take off here in Douglas County! 25. Mr. Homer Danley, Former City Councilman – I was on the City Council about 20 years ago. We started this 25 years ago when it was championed under Senator Dean and it was going to cost between 5 and 8 million, now it’s 75 to 100 million. Many who championed the same idea, the cause have passed away. My hope is that in my lifetime I can see this project come to pass but I’m concerned about that. One of the concerns the federal government has about the stimulus money is that the people are not spending the money. They put the money out there and it never gets spend and that would be tragic if this project never takes place. I worked on this project 23 years ago and here we are talking two years. I came to the meeting in 2006 and we were talking about something happening and thought we would have moved some dirt by now. And here we are talking about another year and another year and Congressman, its going to be your job to see if you can expedite this happening. And, I’ll tell you this, one of the problems is that Congressman Scott is a congressman today but if he is not a Congressman tomorrow and someone else comes in and its not on their priority list, it gets pushed to the back and it keeps going and going and going. So we have to keep Congressman Scott in there to make sure this project gets done. My question is, what about the businesses on 92. There are about 12 businesses there, that will not be affected physically but you are going to be cutting off about 90% of the traffic through there and my question to GDOT or somebody is, do you have a plan to relocate these businesses or to compensate those businesses? Because a lot of them will be basically put out of business when that road is closed. Page 8 Neal O’Brien stated that there would still be access provided to those businesses. Mr. Danley – No one will go down those roads and there will be new business on the new corridor. Congressman Scott stated that we should get with the Douglas Chamber, GDOT, all of us and try to come up with a business plan for that area. To see, as part of this impact study, to see if there is going to be a viable place for these businesses that are going to be impacted by moving the traffic flow out and around that used to come down there. Secondly, the traffic will then come from that way too. You’ll be part of, closer to the downtown area and there are already plans to embody the whole downtown area. I understand that the south side will lose a little too. So what we need is a total business plan for that total area that will incorporate the north side of the tracks with the south side of the tracks. I believe that the Chamber is moving ahead with how to enhance that downtown area of Douglasville. We are not moving downtown Douglasville, we are moving the road and with that new road coming there is going to be new development and so forth but I think we have enough smart people here to not let the downtown area die or whither but it should be working to replenish itself and what I’m suggesting is that those minority owned businesses incorporate their future with the total future of that whole area north and south of the track and of course do a feasibility study to see if life can be sustained there. Gerald Ross stated that Congressman was absolutely correct. We will work with the Chamber of Commerce to mitigate those impacts. We can’t pay to relocate those businesses but what we’ve done in the past is put signs on the arterials to make sure those people know the businesses that are there. This part of what we are trying to do, go to the neighborhoods, find out what concerns are there, and what we can do. In terms of buying or relocating businesses, per federal regulations, we cannot do that. But working with the Chamber, we have other ways of keeping those businesses alive with signs and things of that nature. Mr. Danly – Won’t you be closing the railroad crossing? Are you still planning on rerouting through McCarley? Mr. Bill Osborne – We are still planning on closing the railroad and upgrading McCarly. Mayor Mickey Thompson – The 92 crossing will be moved further west, you can still cross but at a new location. Congressman Scott – What we need to have at the next community meeting is a full blown map of what this is going to look like once it’s done so everybody can come and see how they will be affected, where it’s going to be moved. And then we are going to take a look and see if these businesses, the area that has the traffic cut off will be impacted. Because, if you can’t get the business coming down to you, and its cut from this way coming back over the tracks, you got a problem and so do the people who live in this area and so that is a serious, Page 9 serious problem we’ll have to look at. We’ll make sure we address that. More and more I’m wanting to come to this next meeting too because these are difficult questions and I want to make sure we get it right. 26. Ms. Mitchell, on behalf of Henry Mitchell III, former Mayor Pro-tem – He has been working diligently while in office, prior to going into office because we have an aunt and uncle that will be directly affected so he has been working because he wants them of course to get the proper values for their home, as well as the others of that community. So you many not see him while not in office but he has continued to work with Ms. Danley. Thank you. 27. Mr. Robert Turner, Winston resident who owns commercial property on SR 92 – I own commercial property where the project begins. I’ve owned this property for over 30 years. Its commercial and I operated a tire business out of it for a number of years. And I’ve been very unsuccessful in being able to lease this property due to the restrictions placed by the city as to who can be in there. On June 1st I finally got an offer on the place for half the price I’ve been receiving because the city had turned me down three times on businesses being located in there and would not allow the license. Now my wife and I own this and we retired on its income and this has been going on for 12 years now. And from my perspective, I would like to see them either put the road in or cancel so I can remodel my building and lease it for 5 to 10 years. The first thing a leaser will ask you is “Can we lease if for 5 years?” Yes, we can but they walk away when they find out about the realignment. That’s been going on for 11 years. I retired in ’73 and I’m now 84 and it’s made a direct impact on our income. I had a contract with one of the major fast food chains that was run out when they build the new bridge for I-20. At closing, when they found out there was going to be a realignment there, the man stood up and said, “We don’t want to fool around with the DOT any more!” and canceled the contract. Congressman Scott – When did this happen? Mr. Turner – This has been going on for 12 years and my wife and I have been living off what we can make from this property. Congressman Scott – Can we take down this mans name and number and get back with him? 28. Mr. Warden – A couple of people who don’t feel comfortable have asked me to speak. They are not sure what is proposed, 4 lanes or 6 lanes. And, if it is 6 lanes proposed, wouldn’t that be something like GA 400 with all those sound barriers and stuff like that down the sides. If you do have to build a road like that, will it restrict commercial access? So those are my questions: Will it have 4 or 6 lanes?, will it have sound barriers?, and will it be a GA 400 type road? Gerald Ross – The road will not be a limited access facility but by permit only like Lakewood Freeway. There will be sidewalks and a multi-use trail. Page 10 Congressman Scott – What we need is some sort of visual representation of what this area is going to look like. Who from DOT will be responsible for showing what it would look like? Can we make it available to the public on the web-site, TV, and at City Hall? 29. Ms. Aline Wadsworth, property owner at 6390 Brown Street – I have a rental property on Brown Street that needs work on it but have been putting it off because the project has been going on and on. I would like to tell my renters how long it will be, how long they’ve got. My property has a red dot. Congressman Scott – Make sure that GDOT has your name so we can give you some direction. 30. Mr. Jeffrey Sizemore – This project has been going on for over 20 years and I’d like to find out why, after seeing the scenario of how its progressed and degressed, why we are at this position now and why also, after the stimulus package was passed, none of these funds seem to be directed into getting this? Is this an example of federal government too large to make this project happen and is the delay because of bureaucracy? Congressman Scott – The federal government has moved money, it’s here. What has not been done is what’s being done right now at the city and local level and what that is, is to make sure that citizens have their input and that’s what is happening now. You can’t put this on the federal government. The money is here, it’s down. We are ready to go. But what is important is that we can’t move until the community is ready and that is why we are here today. Mr. Sizemore – Didn’t I hear earlier that no federal money can be ear-marked until the Value Engineering and Environmental Analysis, these things are to happen? That’s my point. Those seem to be a federal regulation requirement and it has been going on for so long and it is such a needed project. For over 20 years for this to go on, there is some disconnect here. Congressman Scott – The federal government cannot come and ram-rod a road through a community until the community says it is pleased, it is satisfied, let’s go. So that is where we are now. The money has already been appropriated and we are waiting to get more. But you can’t just do it. You can’t run over people at the local level. 31. Ms. Evangeline Smith, north side community member – I’m not directly affected but as a member of the north side community I am affected. I commend the work that has been done on this project and the people who have been moving it forward. Hopefully, we are at a point. Congressman Scott, as an educator I would like to thank you for the moment of silence to allow teachers and students to pray before school if they so choose and I want to commend you on your health fairs and scholarships for qualified students. I do want to reiterate two effects to the north side community. One, access in and out of the larger Page 11 community and also, two, fairness. Historically many project have been planned for the north side community, but in the course of getting these funded and applied, many times the north side community’s approved funds have gone elsewhere. I’m hoping that will not be the case. Additionally, I have a question about access to the large community. Right now I can get across the railroad in about four places to have access to the community. I live near the railroad track, two blocks over on Malone Street. I know the Mozley Street crossing is going to be closed, the Campbellton Street crossing is going to be closed, the McCarley Street crossing is going to be opened up somewhat from what it is now. What about the Rose Avenue crossing and those other two crossings further down? Will we still have access to them? Bill Osborne – This project will not impact the Rose Avenue crossing. I’m not sure if some of those openings to the west, I’m not sure if some of those small ones will be closed. We haven’t reached that point yet. Ms. Smith – Well, I would ask you to consider more than one crossing open for the neighborhood. We talk about traffic now but it’s going to be a problem if we can only have one crossing. Also, we can say that only the people that have to be moved will be impacted but in reality we know that everybody on the north side is going to be impacted in many ways. We have about four sets of public housing that are all empty right now. I’m wondering how those are going to be impacted. We have about three schools in the area. How are those going to be impacted? How about the property values for people like myself, who live in an extremely old house and who will not have to move. Will the fair market values that are already depressed on some of those properties, will they be further depressed? How does what we have now fit into the City’s 25 year plan? What about the historic districts? What about the city services that we fought so hard to get at some point? How will they be affected? Emergency situations, please consider. Economic development, think about that too. Congressman Scott – Those are all good points. 32. Councilwoman Callye Burke Holmes, Ward 3 – I just want to go back to the gentleman in the brown shirt [Mr. Sizemore]. On behalf of the City, the Environmental Justice piece that in my opinion, through my research, that has slowed the process has been very low, has been very low involvement. But what we’ve done through GDOT and others is to think of other ways to get the word out. For instance, we do not have to meet here at the Downtown Conference Center. GDOT is willing to go wherever the community is so we hope to present an outline of locations of where the majority of people are so that we can go to you instead of having you to come to us all the time to bring information to you. There are churches, there are other aspects of this community, especially the Hispanic community, grocery stores, there are other places where we hope to speed the process up and move the process forward. Page 12 33. Mr. Shelly Graham – My parents live off Malone Road in Augusta Woods. They will be impacted by the road construction of 92. My concern is in emergency situations. My parents are getting up in age and the railroad is there blocking emergency vehicles. I’m concerned about that but I’m also concerned about... [Mr. Graham continued to comment about matters not pertaining to the SR 92 transportation project]. 34. Ms. Amy Norman – I own three houses here in Douglasville, two houses on Dorsett Street that I use for rental property. There is one thing that I want to make very clear on the fair market value. It is easy to say that I can get an appraisal and that the city can get an appraisal and that we can come to an agreement but the fact remains that I am holding onto those rental properties for three or four years until the market comes back because the market values are so low right now. So I just want to make sure that when the project comes through and there is an appraisal or an assessment that it’s taken into consideration if someone was planning on holding onto that property until later to get the greatest market value they can and that it is taken into consideration because I just had a house that in eight months, the appraisal value dropped $100,000. and if I have that property now and you do an appraisal, and you give me that fair market value, and I’m trying to hold onto it for three years to get the greater market value, I want to make sure that’s taken into consideration so that I don’t get the most value just because you are bringing the road through. Although, I do support the road. I just want to make sure those things are heard and considered. The Town Hall Meeting continued regarding topics unrelated to the SR 92 transportation project. mm Page 13