LIDS NEWSLETTER
John Stahl, Editor
Fall 2006
Congratulations and thanks to all who participated in so many ways with our 2006 National
Convention. Special thanks must go to Joan, Melanie, Barbara Schenk, Luanne, Pam, Carol
Dwyer, Chris Petersen, Paul, our tour garden owners, and many others who put forth so much
time and effort. Everything seemed to go off extremely well. Our visitors were thrilled to be here
and truly enjoyed our Island Jewels. The weather cooperated beautifully for the two days in the
tour gardens. How lucky could we be? Now who’s ready to start planning for the next national
convention? Any volunteers??
The After-The-Convention Garden Blues
By J. Stahl
It seems I experienced a very strange phenomenon within two to three weeks following the
convention. We had what I think was a phenomenal bloom season. It was at its peak in our
garden right around July 15-20th. There were such masses of color that it was difficult to
appreciate it and take it all in. Perhaps spectral overload might be a way of describing it.
Then one morning in late July I came out into the garden to discover a wasteland! Well, it
really wasn’t a wasteland, but the comparison struck me very suddenly and very dramatically.
Where had all the flowers gone? (apologies to Peter, Paul and Mary). I can’t remember
feeling this disappointed in past years. Was this just a cumulative letdown after the
excitement of the convention? For quite a few days I had a feeling of emptiness whenever I
wandered out into the garden. By August 15th there were only about a dozen daylilies in
bloom. Fortunately there were late blooming perennials to soften the blow, but I could
visualize the long barren days of winter. Has anyone else experienced similar feelings? Is
this possibly one of the side effects of daylily addiction?
LIDS’ MEMBERS TOP TEN DAYLILY CHOICES
Here are the results of our top ten daylily poll. Only fifteen members responded. Plants are listed
with the number of votes.
KING GEORGE- 5
JEANNE FITTON-3
MOONLIT MASQUERADE- 3
LAVENDER ILLUSION- 2
SOLAR MUSIC- 2
REGAL BRAID- 2
FLAMING WILDFIRE- 2
EL DESPERADO- 2
SPIDER MIRACLE- 2
ISLAND CARDINAL- 4
PRIMAL SCREAM- 3
LOVE THOSE EYES- 2
ADORABLE TIGER-2
PUMPKIN MOONSHINE- 2
ALWAYS AFTERNOON- 2
MOONLESS NIGHT- 2
ALL AMERICAN CHIEF- 2
The following plants all received one vote- RUFFLED APRICOT, SILOAM MERLE KENT,
-2STRAWBERRY CANDY, MOSES FIRE, MADGE CAYSE, BACON GOLD NUGGET, SILOAM
JIM TERRY, ELIZABETH SALTER, MODERN DESIGN, FRANCES JOINER, DELICATELY
YOURS, FOOLED ME, ORIENTAL RUBY, GOLD CHARM, FRANK GLADNEY, NIGHT
EMBERS, SILOAM ETHEL SMITH, LAVENDER RAINBOW, SPIDER TO THE FLY, NORTH
WIND DANCER, COUSIN TRUDY, DUBLIN ELAINE, RIBBONETTE, FAIRY TALE PINK,
HOW BEAUTIFUL HEAVEN MUST BE, WISTERIA, DAINTY PINK, SHERRY LANE CARR,
LADY LIZ, RED VOUNTEER, TENDER LOVE, ROYAL VIKING, VANILLA FLUFF,
STRUTTER’S BALL, PIANO MAN, WINEBERRY CANDY, TECHNY PEACH LACE, BANNED
IN BOSTON, ROYAL JESTER, ROCK SOLID, LAVENDER HEARTTHROB, EARLY SNOW,
JUDY JUDY, SABINE BAUER, SILOAM DOUBLE SUCCESS, DOUBLE INTRIGUE,
MYNELLE’S STARFISH, FLUTTERING BEAUTY, YOU ANGEL YOU, DESPERADO LOVE,
ROCKY HORROR, TRAHLYTA, HAPPY APACHE, HAMPTON HOCUS POCUS, JAMAICAN
ME CRAZY, SILOAM RALPH HENRY, EGYPTIAN QUEEN, SILOAM DOUBLE CLASSIC,
MOKAN BUTTERFLY, RUBY SPIDER, SCHNICKEL FRITZ, JEAN LEE, NIVA GUEST,
SANDRA ELIZABETH, MOON DAZZLE, PEACOCK MAIDEN, CAMEROONS, SOUTH SEAS,
SPACECOAST STARBURST, LAURA HARWOOD, CHANCE ENCOUNTER, DENA MARIE,
KEY TO MY HEART, DINNER AND A MOVIE, WINGS OF CHANCE, DOUBLE BOURBON,
FERENGI GOLD, ON SILKEN THREAD, VESUVIAN, BLACK JACK CHERRY, RISEN STAR,
DIVINE MADNESS, YAZOO WILD VIOLET, BEAUTIFUL EDGINGS, KILLER, JEALOUS
REFINEMENT, STAR SPANGLED, AUTUMN WOOD, MEHTA, KEENE, SELMA LONGLEGS,
KING’S SPECTRUM, LEE REINKE, HONEY CRUNCH CUPCAKE, TOODLELOO
KANGAROO, ISLAND DELIGHT, LOVELY PINK LADY, ISLE OF CAPRI, ALWAYS A
PLEASURE
STOUT MEDAL POLL
An informal poll of candidates for the 2006 Stout Medal was taken on the main
daylily Email robin recently. The top five choices in order were:
RUBY SPIDER
BEAUTIFUL EDGINGS
BUTTERED POPCORN
ED BROWN
SHERRY LANE CARR
Stay tuned to see if the Stout Medal is actually won by any of these plants.
GARDEN HINTS
One pest that spoils the beauty of blooms each year is thrips. To combat this
enemy, we offer the following recipe/formula:
Before scapes begin to show each spring, mix 2 Tablespoons of Orthene powder
in one gallon of water. Add 1 teaspoon of sugar(which acts as an activator).
Apply the solution down the middle of the clump. Repeat in 15 days to get the
new crop of thrips that have hatched.
-3This procedure was suggested by several convention guests this summer.
One more suggestion- Bayer Advanced Complete Insect Formula. This is a sprayon and is both a systemic and contact product.(Wal-Mart-approx. $15)
Alfalfa- This natural product has been mentioned in earlier issues of the
Newsletter. It contains Triacontonol, an organic root stimulator which is perfect
when planting daylilies. It is available in pellet/meal form in 50 pound bags from
Agway in Hicksville for about $10. Agway had a store for many years on John
Street in Hicksville, but they have recently moved to 82C Cantiague Rock Road.
Their new name is Chestnut Vale Feed Inc/Hicksville Agway. Call them at 516921-3401 for directions to their new location.
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Restaurant Review by the Gastritic Gourmet
How many of you are aware that within a ten minute drive from Planting Fields
in the village of Oyster Bay lies a gem of a restaurant? Canterbury Ales Oyster
Bar and Grill has been serving very fine fare for many years. It has the rustic
décor of a New England chowder house with the feel of historic Oyster Bay. It’s a
casual American bistro with both comfort and cutting edge food.
The menu changes seasonally, and they are famous for their fresh fish and
seafood selections. They also have steaks, chops, lamb, duck and wild game.
Several excellent pastas are always on the menu. Burgers, sandwiches and
salads are available for those who don’t want a full meal. Salads are fresh and
imaginative, and the corn-clam chowder is incredible.
To wash it all down there are over 100 world class beers in bottles, with ten on
draft. In addition there is an excellent wine list, and any wine is half-price on
Monday evenings with dinner. Desserts are decadent!
They are open seven days a week, and you can walk in and have a great meal
anytime during the day. The place is practically empty on Saturdays at around 3
P.M. when our LIDS meeting ends.
CANTERBURY ALES OYSTER BAR & GRILL
46 Audrey Avenue
Oyster Bay, NY 11771
516-922-3614
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Quote of the Season-
Truly great friends are hard to find, difficult to
Leave and impossible to forget.
Anonymous
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Ned Roberts
January 29, 1935 – September 1, 2006
On September 1st, 2006, the daylily world lost a good friend and a
superb hybridizer of spiders and unusual forms. Ned Roberts leaves
behind his family, many friends and a legacy for other hybridizers to
work with. Shannan Read from the UK has built a wonderful website
entitled “Photographic Tribute To Ned”. She has managed to locate
photos of 121 of Ned’s 125 introductions with hybridizing comments on
many of them. You can access this website at:
http:daylily.shannan.f-m.fm/Nedhtml
2007 Daylilies In The Landscape Calendar
In the 2007 edition of the popular daylily calendar which is issued by Louise James
each year, photographs from two LIDS members are featured.
January-‘The Ideal Perennial’- John Stahl- NORTH WIND BILLET DOUX
April- ‘Spider Daylilies’- John Stahl- TENNESSEE FLYCATCHER
June- ‘Small Garden Accents’- Chris Peterson- SPOTTED FEVER
August- ‘Double Wonders’- John Stahl- ROSY OUTLOOK & SENTINEL SOLAR
BURST
September- ‘Daylily Eyes’- Chris Peterson- FOOLED ME
John Stahl- JERRY’S WHIRLIGIG
October- ‘Not Spider-Not Bagel’-Unusuals- John Stahl- RADIATION BIOHAZARD
December- ‘Deck The Halls’- John Stahl- MURPHY’S LAW
Other Noteworthy Photo Notes
Our own Chris Peterson has photos on both front and back covers of the Fall, 2006
Daylily Journal, with ADORABLE TIGER (Rasmussen ’98) on the front and HER
BEST BLOOMERS (Herr ’01) on the back.
Two more useful websites for those interested in photography:
www.dcviews.com- This is an all encompassing site with many features. Camera
reviews and tutorials on many things photographic are included.
-5http://daylily.f-m.fm/spiderlinks/spiderlinks.html- This site contains the photo
albums of the members of the Daylily Spider Group. All kinds of daylilies can be
found here, not just SPUFS.
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North Country Daylilies
Super Northern Hardy Daylilies
Melanie Mason, one of our very own Region Four hybridizers is turning out some
spectacular daylilies under very rigorous conditions in Zone 4 near Saratoga, New
York. If you’re looking for beautiful Tets that will be hardy from Zone 3 to Zone 7,
Melanie is your gal. Here’s a sample of some of her introductions(all are Tets):
ANGUS PRIDE(’06)- 26” Mla 5”, A black-red with glowing orange throat, sunfast.
ROOTBEER FLOAT(’06)- 18” M 5”, Double, Peach/coral blend with cream highlights.
GRYFFINDOR COLORS(’06)- 29” Mla 5.5”, Red with gold throat, white midrib and
fringed gold edge.
MANGO CHUTNEY(’06)- 26” M 6”, Pastel apricot with strawberry halo and ruffled
orange edge. Blooms 5 to 6 weeks(in the far north!).
LONGLESSON ORCHID THIEF(’05)- 30” EM 7”, Bluish lavender with a cream
watermark, star-shaped, but not UF.
PARADOX(’97)- 25” Mla 6”, Double, This is another “hot” flower, a blend of
tangerine and orange. It’s a single flower on single fans, then starts doubling on
multiple fans. Outstanding in the garden.
TIGER ON STILTS(’03)- 42” Mla 5”, A very tall tangerine/coral blend with a red
eye, gold throat and pie crust ruffling. It’s good for back of the border, and it has
a long bloom season.
Melanie’s new introductions are priced from $75 to $125. All are large double fans,
and she includes bonus plants. She also grows about 1300 registered varieties from
other hybridizers. If they thrive up in her neck of the woods, they’ll do just fine on
Long Island. Give her website a look-see. (northcountrydaylilies.com)
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A Grand Variety of Forms
Published in 1988, Daylily Encyclopedia, edited by Steve Webber, has an
interesting chapter written by Lois Burns. Entitled “A Grand Variety of Forms”, it
lays out a glossary of terms used back then to describe the various forms of our
favorite flower. Today in the 21st century, we are accustomed to terms like bagel,
spider, unusual form, miniature, etc. Even though Lois wrote her dissertation only
eighteen years ago, it seems like eons have passed, especially when we read of
the terms used at that time. The only terms used back in ’88 that are familiar to
me are spider, double, star, recurved, triangular and possibly trumpet. The other
six forms seem pretty foreign to me. They are: cockerel, pinwheel, orchid, oval,
circular and informal. I must admit that I have heard of cockerel recently, but the
others require some discussion. To be perfectly clear I must mention that there are
terms describing flower forms to be found on the AHS website today and they
are: circular, triangular, star, informal, ruffled, flat, recurved, trumpet, spider and
double. Please keep in mind that when registering a daylily today, there are only
five flower form designations: single, double, polytepalous, unusual form, and
spider.
The trumpet form describes a shape that is associated with Lilium ( true lilies),
and includes many species varieties and near-species plants. Among those Lois
lists MACULATA (Sprenger ’03), MIKADO (Stout ’29) and CANARI (Nesmith ’40).
Bret Clement lists one of his 2006 introductions, BLAST FROM THE PAST, as a
crispate trumpet, recalling the form of many daylilies from 40 to 50 years ago.
For the cockerel(cockatoo) form Lois pointed to PRAIRIE SATIN( J. Marsh ’65), as
well as GOLDEN COCKEREL(Nesmith ’53), PURPLE COCKEREL( Corliss ’57)and
RED COCKEREL(Corliss ’57). In this form sepals pinch and rise while the petals
recurve or ruffle to produce a rather flamboyant flower. I’m going to hazard an
opinion that some of today’s double spideries from folks like Jan Joiner, Henry
Little and Patrick Stamile might fit this description.
As for spiders things haven’t changed a great deal. They should have narrow
segments which do not overlap after rising out of the throat. While the ratio of
length to width has been reduced to 4:1, and now includes plants formerly
described as spider variants, the spider lives on with many having ratios of 6:1
or greater. Quite a few of the early, classic spiders are listed; KINDLY LIGHT
(Bechtold ’49), ARACHNE( Schroer ’55), FOL DE ROL(Connell ’52), NAVAJO
BLANKET(Grantham ’68) and AABACHEE(Cheetham ’57).
Lois describes star-shaped flowers as simple, symmetrical and tailored. The
segments are usually narrow, some with pointed tips. There were many of this
type produced in the 1950’s and 1960’s. While she mentions DARK STAR
(Connell ’53) and MARSE CONNELL (Connell ’52) as star-shaped, both of these
are registered as spiders today.
-7The pinwheel) is described as having the extremities of the segments as notched
or pinched, with a suggestion of revolution in either direction. GIDDY GO ROUND
(Whitacre ’79) is mentioned, as is SPINDAZZLE (Wilson ’83) and TARUGA
(Stout ’33). Today GIDDY GO ROUND and TARUGA are registered as unusual
forms, while SPINDAZZLE is a spider.
Today there are a number of orchid-like daylilies. Lois described them as having
a relaxed, “floppy” form, fairly large in size with twisted, curved segments.
One of her examples, ORCHID CORSAGE (Saxton ’75) is today registered as an
unusual form. For the most part I don’t see any twisting, and it seems pretty
tailored to me. Two of today’s plants that might be examples of this form are
DARKEST BEFORE DAWN ( Mahieu ’05) and MARGO REED INDEED( Murphy
’04).
At this time there are no doubt hundreds of flowers that could be the
recurved(umbrella) form. This form has all segments curling backward out of
sight. FRANK GLADNEY (Durio ’79) and BROCADED GOWN (Millikan ’79) are two
included in Lois’s comments. With today’s cultivars, DELIGHTFUL LITTLE
TREASURE (J. Carpenter ’04), NANCY BRITZ (Doorakian ’99) and ALMOST ALL
GREEN (H. Herrington ’93) are excellent examples, but even NEVER SAY NEVER
(C.Hanson ’00), which is an unusual form is extremely recurved.
The oval form’s description seems to be a bit inexact. Lois says “ they are ovoid in
character so their pattern is a bit offbeat”. Among the plants listed in 1988 were
MAUNA LOA (Roberts ’76), GREEN WIDOW( Temple ’80) and PEACOCK
MAIDEN(K. Carpenter ’82). GREEN WIDOW is now registered as a spider and
PEACOCK MAIDEN is an unusual form.
In triangular-shaped flowers the sepals recurve severely allowing the petals to
determine form. The blooms tend to have an overall three-sided geometric shape.
Among the flowers listed with which most of us would be familiar is LAKE
NORMAN SPIDER (K. Carpenter ’81). This flower usually has the base of the
triangle situated at the bottom, with the point at the top, a rather classic shape.
PAMPERED PUSS (F. Shooter ’04) is just the opposite, with the triangle’s point at
the bottom, as if it were balanced on its apex. Triangular flowers have a very
tailored appearance, and add necessary variety to a garden with many circles
and ovals.
I’m assuming there is little argument that daylilies identified as circular in 1988
are today’s bagels. This is, of course, the most prolific form at present, and is
readily identifiable by wide, overlapping segments arranged symmetrically
around the center. Some of these might also be recurved, but many are flat.
The double form is one with which we are all familiar. Prior to 1970, there were
only 52 doubles registered with the AHS. The peony type and the hose-in-hose or
layered type are the two most common examples, and many hundreds have been
registered. Some hybridizers have specialized in producing doubles and names
like Kirchhoff, Joiner, Crochet and Herrington come to mind. In addition, newer
subvarieties of doubles are at present being created, some of which have been
called spidery doubles or double unusual forms.
The last form which Lois addresses is called informal or irregular. They are in
various shapes and sizes, asymmetrical and unrestrained. Without a doubt this
form would be today’s unusual form, although some spiders would also be
included. It’s interesting that she included as examples; LILLY DACHE (Hall ’57),
a spider; MYNELLE’S STARFISH(Hayward ’82), an extra large flower;
GOLLIWOG(Wild ’83), an unusual form; and LADY NEVA(Alexander-Moody ’70),
an unusual form. Actually there are many flowers from the 1950’s through the
1970’s that would fit this description, yet very few of them are registered as
unusual forms since they preceded the formulation of the unusual form
classification.
Hybridizers today are involved in many searches…..bigger eyes, more varied
patterns, edges with greater sculpting, taller plants, late and very late plants and
the constant quest for the color blue. At this time there are still only five classes in
which to register daylilies, but a few folks are striking out to create new forms to
add to the registration process. As alluded to above, some of these newer flowers
have been called spidery doubles or double unusual forms. With the growing
interest in these forms it might be possible one day to register a flower in just
such a way. As an advocate I surely hope it isn’t too far in the future.
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To All Region 4 Hybridizers
We have all taken some pictures of our drop dead, beautiful seedlings this year and
CDS has asked me to compile seedling pictures to be run at the 2007 Regional on a
continuous loop for everyone’s pleasure.
In order for me to do this on a timely basis, the deadline for sending in your
seedling pictures to me will be May 31, 2007. I do hope you have pity on my soul and
send your seedling pictures during the cold months, and not when it is time to go
out and play in the garden.
Of course there are rules and here we go:
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The photo has to be a seedling and not a registered daylily.
The dimensional size of the photo should be no larger than 3456x2304.
Do not send e-mail size photos.
Send one (1) photo at a time to knollcottage@yahoo.com
It is imperative that the subject line in the e-mail read:
SEEDLING PICS FOR 2007 REGIONAL CONVE NTION
-96. If you want credit for your seedling, your name should appear somewhere on
the photo, and if you have a garden name or a number for your seedling,
please put that on the photo also if you so choose.
7. You may send me a disc if you prefer. My address is:
Lori Ann Jones
216 Belanger Road
Southampton, MA 01073-9399
8. My phone number is: 413-533-5622
9. Please write somewhere on the envelope that this is for the 2007 Regional
Convention.
10. Please include your phone number so that I may call you if I encounter any
difficulty, and your e-mail address if you send a disc, so that I can notify
you that your disc has arrived safely.
Thank you for your patience and understanding. I am looking forward to seeing all
those wonderful seedlings.
Lori Ann Jones
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2007 AHS Region Four Annual Meeting
July 13, 14 and 15, 2007
At The Hawthorne Inn, Berlin, CT
860-828-4181
There will be many programs at this Region Four meeting, including four tour
gardens. Among the programs are:
Keynote Speaker- Rod Kroemer, presenting Ron Valente’s Daylilies
John Stahl- presenting Augie Krupien’s introductions
A Live Daylily Auction- this will include most of Ron Valente’s daylilies and
Selected futures- H. “Cynthia Valente”, “Circle Of Women”, and “Long
Sands”.
The Tour Gardens will be:
Helene Ferrari’s Sheltara Garden in Chester, CT
Marion Miller’s Blue Fly garden in North Stonington, CT
Richard Howard’s CT Daylily Garden in Wallingford, CT
Kathryn Whitty’s Holly Farms Daylily Garden in Avon, CT
-10A registration form for the meeting is attached to this newsletter. All fee
information, including hotel rates is included.
Dear LIDS members…..The Newsletter is in need of contributions. Please send in
anything of interest pertaining to daylilies. For instance---daylilies you may have
seen in other gardens, a hybridizer whose plants you favor, comments about our
convention, garden hints about cultivation and pest control or suggestions for
future issues. Please send your ideas to me at: imivory@msn.com If you use snail
mail, send to
John Stahl, 2049 Windsor Road, Baldwin, NY 11510-2945. Thanks in advance.
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From Your President
Well, three years have come and gone already. This is just to let you know how much I enjoyed being President of the Long
Island Daylily Society for that time. We really accomplished a lot. We had plant sales at Hofstra University, Clark Gardens
and Farmingdale University. There were flower shows and a convention that were successful. I would just like to say how
much I appreciated the help that the members did for all of our projects, especially the convention. I hope that everyone had a
good time at the convention and met many of the daylily fans from around the states. We should continue to keep up the good
work for the next year with our new president.
Best wishes,
Joan Rasmussen
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2006 was an exciting year for LIDS. For 2007 your LIDS executive board is planning a number of
events that should hold your interest. Among them will be several guest speakers, a panel of LIDS
members discussing their hybridizing programs and possibly a second phase of the very successful
digital camera workshop. For our January Luncheon Ted Petit and John Peat will regale us with
their marvelous creations.
With Best Wishes…….Your Editor