THE PLAYBOOK
Fall Edition 2004
Greetings AFC Members:
Bob Kinney and Jack Hecker are once again happy to bring you the latest edition of THE
PLAYBOOK for your reading pleasure. Bob’s contributions will include (1) a complete
summary of our recent golf outing, to include results, who attended by class, and prize
winners; (2) a thumbnail sketch of who might be in the starting lineups when we open the
season on the 11th against pre-conference favorite Louisville; (3) a Flashback article,
comparing the start of the 1984 season, when Jim Young introduced the Wishbone
offense, and this year’s, the first under head coach Bobby Ross; and (4) another “On the
Lighter Side,” to perhaps add a smile to your busy day.
Jack will pass along many, many e-mail messages he has received recently from fellow
AFC members, with updates relating to their growing families, job situations, etc. Also
included will be an interview with Bob Kinney about the history and success of the golf
tournament and a letter from President of the AFC, John Simar.
But first, let us recognize and extend our congratulations to the committee responsible for
this year’s highly-successful AFC Golf Outing which took place on July 30-31 and
attracted well over 200 attendees, 186 of whom got out the clubs and toured the West
Point course. That group included Mike McElrath, Gaylord “Sihugo” Green, Dick Hall,
Mike Hogan, Bob Kinney, Bill Lynch, Gene McIntyre, Aaron Osburn, Joe Ross, and Ben
Russell. Great job, guys! A much deserved Thank you!
Next, we wish to congratulate the newest Honorary Member inductees, recognizing their
many years of dedicated service to the Army Football Program. The three include the
following: BG (Retired) Bob Berry, former Officer Representative for teams coached by
several head coaches including Jim Young…. Former head football coach Tom Cahill
(1966-73), honored posthumously….and Ben Russell, Assistant Athletic
Director/Facilities. Accepting the honor for Tom Cahill were his two sons, Tec ’72 and
Doug..
A reminder to all that the AFC web site is available. AFC Members can be logged in at
http://www.armyfootballclub.org/. Once you locate that web site, click for members only.
Another web site is the Army Football web site, which provides current updates and
results. You can reach it at http://www.goarmysports.com/. Also, if you prefer to check
the articles in the Middletown Times Herald-Record, log onto www.recordonline.com.
Next year’s AFC Golf Weekend is scheduled for July 29 -30, 2005, the last weekend of
the month. Mark your calendars now, and plan to attend what should be another gala
reunion of former Army football players. And by all means encourage your fellow
teammates and classmates to join you. A great time, as always, is guaranteed!
Should you or your teammates/classmates have any questions concerning AFC
membership, etc. get in touch with Mike Hogan ’82, our Corresponding Secretary, at
www.armyfootballclub.org.
Enjoy your PLAYBOOK.
Jack and Bob
A Message to AFC Members from your President, John Simar
Dear Members of the most important sports booster club in the world, the Army Football Club:
I am sure that you will enjoy this latest edition of The Playbook. Jack Hecker and Bob Kinney
have worked hard to put this labor of love together for you. Let's keep feeding them material to
keep this the great publication that it is.
We had a tremendous turnout for the July 30th and 31st annual golf outing. A special thanks to
Joe Ross and Mike McElrath, new and "old" special events coordinators respectively, Dick Hall,
Gene McIntyre, Ben Russell, Bob Kinney, Bill Lynch and others who put a great deal of work into
the best event yet.
Bob Anderson, All-America and Class of '60, is going into the Hall of Fame! He spoke to us at the
golf outing and is most appreciative of all our support. Of course, he's the one who did all the
work 40 years ago, but he is very thankful for all the support and effort on our parts; especially
Joe Blackgrove.
The AFC is going to sponsor the Black Lion Award for an Army player each year. This is very
exciting. The purpose is to honor the player who best exemplifies what Don Holleder was all
about. Go to www.coachwyatt.com/blacklionaward.html to learn all about it. Prepare to be
emotionally moved!
Coach Ross is the real thing. The Boys are in good hands. Let's give them our support every
chance we get. They will be well-coached. The effort will be great and mistakes will be reduced
drastically. Like Coach Ross said yesterday (August 26) at the annual New York City West Point
Society football luncheon, over the past two years Army has turned the ball over 78 times. Twenty
of those turnovers were 6 points for the other team. Just improving upon that statistic alone will
make a huge difference.
Check the AFC web site for the latest info and updates. Doug Lowrey, our new web page editor,
and Pauline Mariany in AOG are doing a tremendous job getting the site refined and making it
more user friendly. We hope to see you at the fall tailgate at the Air Force game, the banquet in
January, and the spring game. Check the web site for details.
If you know someone who should be a member of the AFC, but is not, please work on them and
get them to join. We need to "Grip Hands" and get it done in Michie. We need everyone off the
bench and into the action.
Enjoy The Playbook ! Thanks to Jack Hecker and Bob Kinney for all their hard work.
Go Army - Beat Navy!
John Simar '72
AFC President
Football Opener Fast Approaching …
Bobby Ross has crossed a lot of t’s and dotted a lot of I’s since his arrival here in early
January, but he’d be the first to remind us that there’s still a lot of work to be done before
he feels totally comfortable with the football program as it exists today. Come the 11th of
September, when pre-Conference USA favorite Louisville visits Michie Stadium, he
should get the answers to some of the nagging questions that continue to circle overhead.
Ideally, any head coach would like to have his starting units intact and ready to go in time
for the season opener. That’s pretty much the case for Ross, who has been through his
share of openers on both the collegiate (The Citadel, Maryland, Georgia Tech) and pro
(San Diego Chargers, Detroit Lions) levels. But there are still a few positions as of 1
September where the starter has yet to be identified.
A couple of certainties do exist. Seniors and juniors will dominate the starting casts. The
only sophomores currently running with the first units are fullback Tielor Robinson and
tight end Tim Dunn, and Dunn is expected to share field time with senior Doug Horaist
and junior Jared Ulekowski.
Field experience is considerable, although in different systems used a year ago on both
offense and defense. Dunn is the only non-letterman to earn a starting nod, seeing duty in
four of the final five games last fall.
Ross likewise has liked what he’s seen in preseason work from a handful of plebes who
have made strong impressions and will soon earn their baptism under fire. While none
currently fill slots among the first units, it could be just a matter of time before they are
able to make strong challenges.
Here are the starting units, as of the 1st of September, barring any late adjustments due to
either performance or injury during the final practice sessions.
Offense:
Tight End - Tim Dunn, Sophomore, 6-4, 243, Chalfont, PA
Doug Horaist, Senior, 6-3, 238, Lafayette, LA
Jared Ulekowski, Junior, 6-3, 235, Katy, TX
Left Tackle - Joel Glover, Senior, 6-5, 283, Abilene, TX
Left Guard - Adam Wojcik, Senior, 6-3, 282, Westerville, OH
Andy Dytrych, Senior, 6-2, 281, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Center -- Justin Troy, Senior, 6-2, 285, Cordova, TN
David Evetts, Senior, 6-1, 275, San Antonio, TX
Right Guard - Pete Bier, Junior, 6-4, 289, Janesville, WI
Right Tackle - Seth Nieman, Senior, 6-5, 292, Calvin, ND
Wide Receiver - Aaron Alexander, Senior, 6-6, 199, Hahnville, LA
Bruce Brown, Junior, 5-10, 175, Andover, MA
Wide Receiver - Jacob Murphy, Junior, 6-2, 207, El Paso, TX
Blaine Cooper, Junior, 6-0, 192, Tulsa, OK
Quarterback - Reggie Nevels, Senior, 6-0, 198, Marion, IN
Halfback - Carlton Jones, Junior, 5-9, 195, Henderson, NC
Fullback - Tielor Robinson, Sophomore, 5-11, 220, Greenwich, CT
Defense:
Left End - Will Sullivan, Senior, 6-3, 255, Atlanta, GA
Left Tackle - Tommy Ryan, Junior, 6-2, 266, Seminole, FL
Right Tackle - Trey Landry, Senior, 6-2, 281, Lafayette, LA
Right End - Ryan Johnson, Senior, 6-1, 226, Berwick, PA
Cameron Craig, Sophomore, 6-3, 236, Garden City, KS
Linebacker - Greg Washington, Senior, 6-0, 218, Fayetteville, NC
Linebacker - Matt Maimone, Senior, 6-2, 220, Orinda, CA
Whip - Mike Resnick, Senior, 6-0, 215, Oak Ridge, TN
Strong Safety - Curt Daniels, Senior, 5-11, 197, Leawood, KS
Free Safety - Dhyan Tarver, Junior, 6-1, 181, San Antonio, TX
Left Corner - Delente Brewer, Senior, 5-11, 186, Dallas, TX
Right Corner - Jonathan Lewis, Senior, 5-10, 195, Columbus, MS
Ray Stith, Junior, 5-10, 173, Newport News, VA
Specialists:
Punter - Tom Dyrenforth, Junior, 5-9, 187, Chocorua, NH
Kicker - Austin Miller, Sophomore, 6-2, 197, Austin, TX
Long Snap - Brent McCorkle, Senior, 6-0, 219, Greenville, SC
Punt Return - Ray Stith, Junior, 5-10, 173, Newport News, VA
Kick Return - Scott Wesley, Junior, 5-11, 191, Pine Bluff, AR
Top Plebes:
Corey Anderson, WR, 5-8, 155, Tampa, FL
Jeremy Trimble, WR, 6-0, 190, Ashburn, VA
Mike Viti, FB, 5-11, 240, Berwick, PA
John Wright, DE, 6-1, 265, Hoover, AL
Brandon Thompson, DE, 6-3, 246, Oklahoma City, OK
Marcus Millen, LB, 6-0, 215, Durham, PA
Caleb Campbell, WHIP, 6-1, 225, Perryton, TX
Dazmond Payne, DB, 6-0, 185, Ft. Worth, TX
Team Captains:
Aaron Alexander, Curt Daniels, Joel Glover, Greg Washington
“ We’ve heard from………….”
The 40’s classes:
Nice note from one of the old timers - BOB KREN ‘46. Bob tells us that like many
WW II classes Bob joined the 80 group on August 9. He played for the 11th
Airborne right after graduation at 215 lbs. Bob is looking forward to the football
season but no longer attends home games any more. Bob resides in New London,
NH, having moved to a “supported” type house neighborhood. Bob hailed from
Bridgeport, Ohio. After successful troop assignments and a masters in journalism
from Missouri, Bob wound up at West Point as Information Officer when Bob
Kinney was a GI working for him. He later arranged to have Bob hired as assistant
sports information officer. Kren retired after his West Point assignment ended in
1967. He then moved on to University of Missouri for the same job he held at West
Point for 11+ years, then moved to New London in 1986. - rkren@tds.net
GENE MECHLING ’49 dropped us an e-mail sharing with us his C Squad
experiences in 1945-46 before moving up to the B Squad the following year. He had
to quit due to a chronic shoulder dislocation. - ebmechling@bluecrab.org
The 50’s classes:
Don Beck, Bob Blaik, Ben Brian, Al Conway, Bruce Elmblad, Carl Guess, Gerry
Hart, Hal Loehlein, Gil Reich, Elmer Stout, and Lew Zeigler, members of the 1950
Army Football Team, gathered together for a "Mini Reunion" at The College
Football Hall of Fame in South Bend, Indiana on May 5, 2004.
The occasion was The Dedication of the Earl "Red" Blaik Sculpture featuring
bronze plaques with the names of all Army Lettermen of the Blaik Era around the
pedestal of the statue. Doug Kenna, Class of 1945 and College Football Hall of Fame
Member, and Bob Blaik were featured speakers at the dedication and unveiling of
the sculpture. The statue depicting Col. Blaik in his classic kneeling position is
located behind the spiral ramp leading into the museum, across from the Stadium
Theatre at the College Football Hall of Fame. Bobby Ross, Army's new head coach,
was the guest speaker at The Gridiron Legends Luncheon following the dedication
of the Blaik Sculpture. Glenna Goodacre is the sculptor, best known for designing
the Vietnam Women's Memorial in Washington D.C.; the Irish Memorial in
Philadelphia; and a statue of Ronald Reagan, which is located at the Reagan
Library in California.
JOHN FEAGIN ’55, a recent recipient of the West Point Distinguished Graduate
Award and inducted into the Army Football Club last year as an honorary member
for his outstanding dedication and service to the Army football teams during the
late 60’s and early 70’s and a world-renown orthopedic surgeon, attended this
year’s AFC Golf Weekend and asked me to pass along his message to all AFC
members…..” The honor of joining you in the AFC, the joy of renewing and sharing
old friendships at my 2nd Golf Outing, and the special place in my life and heart the
Army Football Player holds….” - JAFDUKE@aol.com
The 60’s classes:
BOB ANDERSON ’60 joined us for the 8th Annual AFC Golf Weekend and was
recognized by the AFC following the BBQ dinner Saturday night. Bob received a
standing ovation from the 230+ who had attended the dinner. As you are probably
aware Bob is being inducted into the College Football Hall Of Fame in which he is
joining 26 other former members of the Long Gray Line who donned the Black and
the Gold. Bob spoke to the gathering in Kimsey Center and gave credit for his
accomplishments to his coaches and teammates. Bob will be inducted during an
awards dinner on Dec. 7 in New York, and will be officially enshrined during
ceremonies in August 2005 at the Hall in South Bend, Ind.
JAMES CRABBE ’60 claims he was not much of a football player during his West
Point career. Apparently while on the Plebe team and during the last game of the
season, James suffered a career-ending medial meniscus tear. But it is good to hear
from you, James. James and his wife of 42 years, Anne, live in Pinehurst, NC.
James served 6 ½ years in the Air Force as a rescue helicopter pilot before serving
as a college athletic director at two Division III NCAA schools. After that he went
into financial services with his own company. James and Anne have three children
and 7 grandchildren. Daughter Jeannie was a diver for UNC, while her husband
Eric was a four-year a All-America swimmer for UNC as well. James is looking
forward to an exciting Army football season. - jmcrabbe@earthlink.net
MICK MAUS ’61 - Mick and Coralinn Maus have been retired in McKinney, TX
(Dallas Suburb) since September ’98. They moved there after an assignment in
London with NCR. Their home overlooks the 17th hole on a beautiful Pete Dye golf
course. Golf, travel, volunteer work and family now absorb their time. mike_coralinn@comcast.net
DICK HEYDT ’64 - Dick is looking forward to receiving his “first” edition of THE
PLAYBOOK. Dick and his wife Penny have been retired from Proctor & Gamble
for over two years now. They reside in Johnson City, TN. They now have six
grandkids. The major news in their family is that their daughter Leslie was
diagnosed with cancer in her breasts this past spring. The doctors believe the type
cancer is teratoma. Dick and his family would appreciate your prayers for her as
she continues the chemo treatment, then surgery, and finally radiation. Dick says he
is really looking forward to this coming football season with new coach and what
appears to be a new optimism for producing a winning team. - By the way, Dick’s
field goals against Penn State helped win some close games. dickheydt@earthlink.net
MIKE O’GRADY ’65 - Mike says he was in the Class of ’65 and played a little in
the 62-64 seasons. Mike and his wife Barbara have three grown sons. Mike says
they are both part-time educators in semi-retirement and good health in the suburbs
of Augusta, GA. Mike says he is interested in completing a literary work which
would include a recounting of the lives of several graduates of USMA - notably Bob
Arvin, Don Holleder and Patrick O’Rorke ‘1861. Those of you who are Holley’s
classmates and teammates may be interested in contacting Mike mjogrady@bellsouth.net
GARY MARSHALL ’69 - Gary joined us at the 8th annual AFC Golf weekend this
past July and had a great time. He married his high school sweetheart Alice and
they have two sons. Gary’s son Bret and 3 nephews played football at Torry Pines
HS in San Diego, where Gary coached wide receivers for 6 years “using the Coach
Hecker positive coaching style..” Bret then played four years (94-98) at strong safety
for Princeton and nephew Chris 4 years as a tight end on scholarship at Utah.
Gary’s business is a company he started called Fyrst USA LLC. They supply sport
medical kits and supplies to amateur team sports of all types from Boys and Girls
Clubs, Pop Warner, youth soccer to Little League via the internet at
http://www.fyrstusa.com/ Gm@fyrstusa.com
BOB IVANY ’69 - Bob has retired from the Army as a MG and recently accepted
the position of President of the University of St.Thomas in Houston, TX. Bob says it
is a great little institution. He looks forward to welcoming anyone coming to
Houston since the campus is close to the center of town. - ivanyr@stthomas.edu
TOM WHEELOCK ’69 - Received nice update from Tom recently stating he has
been out of touch because for the past 18 months he has been in Baghdad, Iraq
working as Director of Infrastructure Reconstruction Program, US Agency for
International Development. Tom was responsible for $2.8 billion of reconstruction
contracts in everything from electricity to water to airports. He went over in March
2003 and came back for good this past May. Tom continues to consult on Iraq parttime in Washington DC.
The 70’s classes:
GARY NICKEL ’71 - Gary was Coach Hecker’s very first recruit (from Wisconsin)
when Coach Hecker joined Tom Cahill’s staff back in 1967. Gary recalls that his
trip to West Point (with his mother) resulted in his joining the Class of 1971. Gary
only played one year of football due to a knee injury. Medical school followed
graduation, then he served 15 years in the Army before resigning in 1986. Gary and
his wife have six children and 12 grandchildren. Their 2nd son Matt caught the last
touchdown scored against Lavell Edwards (BYU) before he retired. Matt played for
Utah, for 5 years. Their youngest son plays for Dixie State College in St. George,
Utah and had a great year in 2003 season - 2nd team all-conference tight end. It was
great to hear from Gary after all these years. - garyandalexis@yahoo.com
BOB PORTANTE ’73 - Bob retired from the Army after 30, years having spent the
last four years at the US Army War College in Carlisle, PA. Had a great time
serving in the Infantry, spending 17 of his first 20 years in airborne outfits with
some of the finest warriors to wear the uniform. Bob made 165 static line jumps one of them into combat in Panama in 1989. Bob and his wife Ann now reside in
Huntsville, AL with Bob working with the Boeing-SAIC Team in the Future
Combat System. Bob plans to attend the Army-Air Force game this year and hopes
to see a few teammates and others from the AFC. - bportante@ndgi.com
ED FRANCIS ’73 - Ed runs a $300M business for Hamilton Sunstrand, a division
of United Technologies (UTX). UTC is a $34b company that owns Sikorsky, Pratt
and Whitney, Otis, Carrier, and others. Ed’s business was primarily oriented
towards space and their key customer was NASA, but in the past two years he has
pushed the business into the military and homeland security markets. He says they
are a very high tech company who makes a lot of systems on spacecraft, and the
NASA spacesuit in its entirety. Ed goes on to say they are being successful in
applying technologies to the new markets and are therefore growing their staff in
that area. Ed would be interested in resumes of guys who are on the junior side,
looking to get into a high tech business with some really exciting customers in space
and the defense of the nation. Location is somewhat flexible as they have plants in
Illinois, California, Texas, and the headquarters in Connecticut. edward.francis@hs.utc.com
ERNIE CHACHERE ’74 - Classmate and fellow teammate Jim Ward shared this
information about Ernie with me at the AFC Golf outing. Ernie is one of six people
on the executive committee at E. J. Gallo (Wine) and heads the supply chain. Ernie
also has a son playing linebacker at Division 1AA Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo. He
is a starter and they play a very competitive schedule. Ernie attended the AFC Golf
Outing this year and had a great time renewing acquaintances with former players
and teammates. - Ernie.chachere@ejgallo.com
JIM CISEK ’74 - Jim sold a personnel company for a hefty figure a couple of years
ago in NYC and is now starting a new business, Big Wave Embroidery & Silk
Screening.
ED FOX ’74 - Ed writes that he has thoroughly enjoyed THE PLAYBOOK. Ed
retired in ’94 and resides in Palm Harbor, FL - in the Tampa Bay area just north of
Clearwater. Ed , as a single parent, has raised two daughters - Tiffany and Alyson.
Ed works for an insurance company - Bankers Life and Casualty. - elfiii@hotmail.com
BOB SIMONS ’75 - Bob still resides in St. Petersburg, Florida operating his
“Fitness Business”. He also adjunct instructs at University of South Florida in the
Department of Gerontology. He and some other members of the AFC are getting a
group of AFC members and Army Football supporters for the USF/Army game on
the 16th of October. The West Point Society of Tampa Bay will also be hosting a
huge Army Tailgate before the game at the NY Yankees Spring Training Stadium. Bsim34@aol.com
BOB CASLEN ’75 - Bob tells us that he has PCS’d from FT Stewart to the
Pentagon. Working in J-5 on the Joint Staff as the Deputy Director of the War on
Terrorism. He says “….. it is fascinating work, as we put the strategy and policies in
support of the great work our officers, NCO’s and soldiers are doing over in Iraq
and Afghanistan”……. Bob was promoted to BG in June. MG Fuzzy Webster ’74
hosted the promotion and said it was certainly an honor to have a great American
and former Army letterman do the promotion. Chuck Baker ’75, an Army football
teammate, was able to attend. - caslen@prodigy.net
RICK CONNIFF ’75 - Rick was sorry he missed the golf outing this year but will be
back next year. Rick is still enjoying his work with the Fellowship of Christian
Athletes (FCA). He recently took over as Chaplain for the Aberdeen Ironbirds
(Single A baseball team). Still working up in NYC within Homeland Security in an
Air Force Reserve capacity, which he’ll retire from next June. He mentions it was
great to see Doc Feagin get the Distinguished Graduate recognition - well deserved!
Rconniff@fca.org
W. SID VOGEL ’75 - Sid and his wife Wendy and their two kids have lived in
Fairhope, Alabama - near the gulf coast - since 1995. He retired from the Army in
1998. Sid serves as President of Asplundh Environmental Services, Inc. doing work
nationwide. Wsv1975@bellsouth.net
Classes from the 80’s
MARK McKEARN ’81 - Mark took command of the 12th Aviation Brigade in
Giebelstadt, Germany on July 15th. - Mark.McKearn@12avnbde.army.mil
RICK DAUCH ’83 - Rick says “It is with a red face and tail between my legs that I
write you this letter. Sounds like it was a great time last week”. Apparently Rick
and his DB classmate buddies - Joe Hampton, Dr. Kevin Murphy, Herb Aten ‘84,
Tommy Morgan, Kevin Williams - all had some lame excuse as to why they failed to
attend the 8th Annual AFC Golf Outing in July. What was it they SHOULD have
learned a long time ago? NO EXCUSE, SIR!!!!!!!!!! Rick said the Naked Gassers
would return in 2005. Joe Hampton just got a job and was moving to Florida.
Murphy is busy tending to injured soldiers coming back from the Middle East.
Aten is working to launch the next generation Hummer H3 vehicle while
simultaneously conducting due diligence on a company Rick is trying to buy in
Germany. Tommy Morgan was busy chasing and investing money for Goldman
Sachs. Rick got the opportunity to brief his new boss that Saturday on a turnaround plan for the division he is running for American Axle. Williams said they
were all a bunch of wussies and he would not show up without them. Dauchrick@aol.com
JOE HAMPTON ’83 - Joe says it took a little while but he and his family are finally
getting settled into a new job and new location in Tampa, Florida. ja_hampton@verizon.net
ERIC HOLMES ’84 - Eric and his wife are living in Dallas. They have two boys - 7
and 9. The older one is playing his first season of football and practices his tackling
drills on his dad. Eric reports that he is finishing up his second book, and it should
be out in mid September. It’s a collection of stories from people fighting for
freedom over in Iraq. His first book was a collection of famous quotations called Set
Sail for Success . Eric says he’ll attend Homecoming and plans to be at the Houston
game. Eric.holmes@juno.com
ANDRE CUERINGTON ’84 - Andre tells us that his wife and three daughters 16,13,11 -relocated to Southern California about 2 years ago. He is now working for
Western Asset Management in Pasadena as a Client Service Executive. Andre
recently saw Dean Chamberlain ‘85 in Chicago and Jarvis Hollingsworth ’85 in
Houston. Apparently he talks to Gerald Walker ’83 often. Gerald is retired from
active duty, living in Greenville SC and working with the ROTC at Clemson. Jeff
Martin’s ’84 son goes to the same school as Andre’s two younger daughters and he
sees him quite often. - Acuerington@westernasset.com
SCOTT G. WUESTNER ’84 - Scott tells us he has enjoyed THE PLAYBOOK over
the years but has not been in touch. He is currently commanding 4-11 FA in AK as
part of the Army’s 3d Stryke Bde, the 172d SBCT. Celebrated his 20th wedding
anniversary this year to the same lady - Sue - that he met during his junior year. He
and Sue have three sons - Greg 14, Chris 10, and Mike 7. Scott says he has been
fortunate to have served in heavy, light and airborne artillery, as well as some tours
with the Rangers and Special Operations all around the world. Scott plans to attend
his 20th Reunion this fall. Scott.wuestner@us.army.mil
RICH LAUGHLIN ’84 - Rich has retired from the Army, leaving that great
institution known as Bowling Green State University in July. Rich has moved to
Matthews, North Carolina - near Charlotte - and will begin instructing JROTC this
fall at Butler High School. He teaches every other day as the Senior Army
Instructor (SIA) and plans on volunteering some time with the AD and head FB
coach, offering his talents to be utilized. Rich’s boys attend school in Union County
while he is teaching in Mecklenburg County. - Rich has been in contact with Dave
Woolf ’84 who is currently in Chapel Hill. Talked with Herb Aten ‘84 and Mark
Triplett ’84 about reunion plans this fall for their 20th. Rich also ran into Greg
Brockman ’82 at Ft. Knox during Rich’s outprocessing from the Army. Greg is
currently assigned to Ft. Knox for a year and waiting to pin on full Colonel and take
command of the 20th Aviation Brigade at Ft. Hood. Greg has three kids. He just
finished a year at the Army War College, Carlisle Barracks, PA. - Laughlinrm@aol.com
LARRY CARROLL ’84 - Larry attended the recent golf outing, is happily married
and living in New Jersey. His job is Newark District Manager for Pfizer. He
enjoyed seeing everyone and really enjoyed meeting and talking to Coach Bobby
Ross. Larry and his wife Maria just celebrated their 20 years wedding anniversary
with a ceremony at the Catholic Chapel, followed by a reception at Herbert Hall at
West Point. - larry.l.carroll@pfizer.com
JOHN HELLER ’84 - John resides in Virginia and works for Netco Government
Service, Inc. He said he recently had the opportunity to catch up with Joe Sartiano
‘84 ((LTC-P) at his home in Northern Virginia. He pointed out that football
friendships truly do last a lifetime! John says Joe is doing great, working at the
Pentagon. John plans to meet Bill Kime’s family in Philly for the Army/Navy game.
- jheller@netcogov.com
SHAMUS HANLON ’84 - Shamus reports that he is working as Brand Group
Director for the Gambrinus Company in San Antonio, TX. TGC is the 5th largest
beer company and the #1 independent/privately owned beer company in the U.S.
TGC imports Corona Extra, Corona Light, Modelo Especial, Negra Modelo,
Pacifico from Mexico and the Moosehead brand from Canada. Shamus started at
TGC in February 2004, relocating from Chicago where he’d been working since
2002 as an independent Marketing/Bank Consultant. His wife Kim and daughter
Ava (6) remain in Chicago as Ava is starting first grade at a great school in
Evanston. Shamus plans to attend his 20th reunion and looks forward to seeing a lot
of the gang at that time. - shamus.hanlon@gambrinus.com
TOM PERRY ’85 - This is Tom’s first update in nearly 20 years. Tom played
fullback and was a 2-year letterman under Coach Jim Young. Tom left the Army in
’90. Has been living in San Francisco since 1994 - started up a software company,
and fighting tooth and nail to get it off the ground. First customer is VISA, so
things are looking up. Tom has been married to Martha since 1999. They have two
newborn twins - Alexander and Lucas - born June 3 2004. - tperry@borgsoftware.com
DAVID URBAN ’86 - David says “not a very illustrious gridiron career (I believe
the highlight was being listed as a “Top Plebe Prospect” in the 1983 media guide) recruited by Coach Cavanaugh, played plebe and yearling year, and then spinal
injury - couldn’t get medically cleared - graduated in 1986. David lists the company
he works for as American Continental Group located in Washington, DC. urban@acgrep.com
TOM MEYER ’87 - Tom checks in from Fort Hood where he is starting his third
year of grad school working on a PhD at UT Austin. Next summer they move back
to West Point where Tom will return to the West Point Math Department. The big
news is that last year his wife Leanne gave birth to two future Army football players
(Class of 2025), Ben and Luke Meyer. Tom plans to attend the Houston game. thomas.meyer@us.army.mil
ROB DICKERSON ’87 - Rob writes from Okinawa, Japan. He commands a joint
detachment located at Kadena Air Base for Special Operations Command, Pacific
(SOCPAC). His wife Shelly and he enjoy the island life but will be ready to leave
when the time is up next summer. No word on what his next assignment will be.
Rob would love coming back to WP for some kind of an assignment and helping out
with the team. Coach Ross - can you help Rob out? - Robert.Dickerson@kakdena.af.mil
RICH BAXTER ’87 - Rich just PCS’s and is getting settled at Fort Riley. He spent
the last year on an unaccompanied tour in Korea, stationed in Seoul and working at
the 121st General Hospital. Rich was the Physical Therapy Consultant for Korea
and the Chief of Physical Therapy at the 121. His path crossed with Mike Staver ’85
on several occasions. Mike was on his way to Hawaii. Rich is excited to be at Fort
Riley with wide-open spaces and plenty of hunting opportunities. He has two
hunting dogs (a pointer and a retriever) and is looking to get back to Kansas to go
pheasant hunting. - rsbaxter@charter.net
TIM MITCHELL ’87 - Tim checks in from Africa. He moved to Chad (said to look
it up on the map) in June and is now working in our Embassy as the US Defense and
Army Attache. Says it is a great job, but very busy with all the problems in the
Sudan - but enjoying it. Chad has earned its reputation as one of the poorest
countries in the world - but Tim still has invited anyone to come visit him! Chez
moi est chez vous!! - timmitchelljr@hotmail.com
GERRY KOBYLSKI ’88 - Gerry is just beginning his third year of grad school
working on his PhD in Math. The program is sponsored by the Math Department
at West Point where he will return when completed. The school is Stevens Institute
of Technology in Hoboken, NJ. Gerry and his wife have three girls (7-6-1). Gkobylski@wmconnect.com
CRAIG RAYMOND ’88 - Quick update from Craig tells us that Suzanne gave
birth to their second child on 20 July 2004. Grace Elizabeth, both mother and baby
are doing great, as well as big brother Chris (8). Craig will also be coaching at
Lafayette High School working with the freshman linemen this season. Still
working for Smith Barney, Inc. during the day. - Craig Raymo@aol.com
JON BRUNNER ’89 - Jon checks in from St. Joseph, Michigan. Latest news
involves the newest member, Margaret E. Brunner, born July 16th, in St. Joseph.
She weighed 8 lb, 3 oz. and was 21 inches long. Mother and baby are doing well.
They live in Nerrien County, SW Michigan, and see some very good high school
teams of many sports. Jon is still in the reserves and stationed in Livonia, Michigan
for the next year or so.. Jon, like so many others, is looking forward to the coming
football season with much anticipation. - jon.brunner@shepherdcasters.com
CHIP ENGLAND ’89 - Chip has been working in the Richmond area, barring a
short stint commuting to Manassas, since 1992. He is now a licensed Professional
Engineer and the Superintendent of the new Henrico County Water Treatment
Facility. Henrico is the northern suburb of Richmond. Chip and his dad and 10-yr
old son got to see Coach Ross in Richmond when he spoke at a WP Society/VMI
Society/Benedictine dinner. Chip has three wonderful kids - Rachel (13), Chad (10),
and Kaylee (6). Says they all have plans to attend the reunion this year. eng18@co.henrico.va.us
Classes from the 90’s
TODD MULVILLE ’90 - Todd now resides in Houston having just recently moved
there with a job change with Arbitron. He is the PPM Field Recruitment Manager
for PPM Field Operations. Says he has been happily married for 12 years and has a
very fun 4 and a half year old named Jackson who loves to yell Beat Navy! Todd.Mulville@arbitron.com
CAM WORSHAM ’90 - Cam has a new job as of September 1, and has moved to
McKinney, TX. He reports that he is now divorced and loving the single life. For
the past two years he has been doing Ironman Triathlons - all pain and fun !! cam3pita@sbcglobal.net
GEOFFREY BINNEY ’91 - Geoffrey apologizes for dropping off the face of the
earth over the past few years. He joined the FBI after his stint in the Army where
he spent 8 years. He has spent the last several years in the Cybercrime area and
headed up Operation Candyman, a nationwide online child pornography
investigation that netted over 115 defendants. In 2002 he left the FBI for the private
practice of law and has been doing that ever since.. Geoffrey focuses on general
commercial litigation. His wife Amy and he have three “strapping” young studs.
Connor (7), Quin (5), Dylan (2 ½). All future Black Knights for sure !! Geoff says he
hears from Bret Petkus ’91 periodically. Bret and his wife are expecting twins soon.
Rick Angle ’91 is in SF and spends most of his time overseas. The Angles are also
expecting their first child. - Geoff@gk-lawyers.com
JEFF JOHNSON ’92 - Jeff said he had a tremendous time at the Golf Outing this
past July and that it was great seeing everyone. Jeff and his family arrived at
Redstone Arsenal this spring after going to school at Georgia Tech where he saw
Rick Pressel ’92 often. Rick lives in Peachtree City and is a sales mgr for Rotech, a
medical equipment company. Jeff is XO for the Aviation Program Executive Office.
Jeff was amazed with the facilities now at WP for the footballers. Says he likes the
Huntsville area but would like to eventually end up back at WP and be a part of the
Army football organization. - jeffandlisajohnson@comcast.net
JASON SUTTON ’94 and MATT CONWAY ’94 - Jason and Matt both now live in
the Great Cleveland, Ohio area. Jason lives in Avon, while Matt recently moved
into Bay Village. Both contacted Coach Hecker recently inviting him to play a
round of golf. It so happens that Coach Hecker works part-time at a nearby golf
course so the three of us got together for a “free” round of golf at Pine Hills Golf
Club in Hinckley, Ohio. Had a great time, but will NOT reveal the scores. The
Suttons, Conways and Heckers are planning to get together again for dinner one
evening.
JR WEST ’95 - Received a short message from JR’s wife Robin. JR is currently in
Iraq and is commanding HHC 1 ID. He is stationed in Tikrit. He is hopeful of
being back in Germany sometime in Feb/Mar 05. Robin says they are looking
forward to being stateside next summer and hopefully catching a few Army football
games in 2005. - jrandrobin@yahoo.com
PAT WORK ’95 - Pat writes to us from “across the pond”. He is currently on his
fifth “trip” since 9/11. This has been the third straight summer he has failed to
make the golf tourney. He tells us that in June he spent some time with John Stull
’95 and recently with Will Huff ‘91 and Tim Lassiter - all sharing a “rekindled
enthusiasm” for Army football. Pat looks forward to seeing the toughness, intensity,
and pride again. Fatpat45@aol.com,
DAMON BECKNEL ’95 - Damon and his wife Noreen are back at West Point
where Damon is teaching computer science. He recently ran into Roy Shipley ’94
who is now a civilian working for GM in Ohio. Damon is hoping to serve as a
mentor for some of the team this year. - Damon.Becknel@usma.edu
ED JUST ’95 - Ed and his wife Traci just had their 3rd son on May 26. Benjamin
Michael joins brothers Eddie (5) and Patrick (2). Ed reports all are doing great up
there in Minneapolis. He continues to work for Target. He starts his MBA at the
University of Minnesota this fall. Etjust@hotmail.com
RAY TOMASITS ’96 - Amanda and Ray are still in Kansas City (since 2001). He
works for GE and currently ERC’s (Employer’s Reinsurance Corp.) Global
Collections Process Leader. Ray is planning to attend a game this fall and hopes to
hear from fellow teammates, and possibly coordinating the trip with others. Ray.Tomasits@ge.com
EREN SITKI ’96 - Since leaving WP in the summer of 1996 Eren spent 6 years in
the Army before deciding to leave the military. Since the summer of 2002 has been
working as a Reliability Engineer with Sunoco at their refinery in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Eren and his wife have two children --Hunter (3) and Isabelle (2). Eren says “As
distance and time make the heart grow fonder, we long to return to West Point to
visit and are always excited to hear about the Army team…….” - esitki@cox.net
RONNIE MCADA ’97 - Ronnie tells us it has been a while since last making
contact. He would like to get back for a game and bring his 3 year old son.
Everything is going well for him in Mesquite, Texas. Ronnie owns a used car lot
and has two boys -Ronnie III (3) and Max (1). He claims his 3 year old has the
makings of a fine footballer - like father, like son? Ronnie was drafted last in the
1997 draft by the Green Bay Packers. RONNIEMACS@aol.com
DOUG CHADWICK ’97 - Doug is checking in from Iraq where he is half way
through his year deployment to Iraq. In January of this year, he joined 1-6 FA in
Bamberg, Germany and redeployed into Iraq just 4 weeks later. Doug was
stationed down in Ansbach, Germany prior to that, so his wife Heather and
daughter Emma (2) are still living there. His wife plans to move to Bamberg in the
late fall. His unit has transitioned into a motorized infantry task force. They are
responsible for the city of Ba’qubah. It is the capital of the Diyala Province
(population around 300,000), and it has been one of the toughest areas in Iraq
during the past year. On July 12th Doug took command of C/1-6, Gaylord Greene’s
’93 old battery. Doug has three platoons of motorized infantry and one platoon of
mechanized infantry (Bradley Fighting Vehicles). His artillery battery has no
artillery. Says it’s an incredible experience, though! Doug says his unit has had
more contact than any other in the 1st Division. Doug says that LTC Rob Roggeman
’86 came out last week. He is task force commander. Doug sends his best to
everyone - chadwickdr@yahoo.com
CHRIS McQUILLAN ’98 - Chris received a medical separation from the Army
back in ’99 from the back problems he received while playing ball. (Chris was
Army’s starting kicker his freshman year). After that most of his time was spent in
NY and NJ. This past December he moved to Tampa, FL for a change of scenery
and loves it there. Chris is married for 6 years now and has two kids (Hayden-4 and
Hannah - 2). Cjhmcquillan@hotmail.com
LEN KENNEDY ’98 - Len left the Army (Air Defense) in 2000 and worked as a
Production Supervisor at Solvay Engineered Polymers in Grand Prairie, Texas. He
got married in August of 2003 to Rhonda. Len is currently in a Store Leadership
Program (Tim Booth ‘97 and he are doing the same program) with Home Depot.
Upon completing this program, he will become a store manager. leonardkennedy@sbcglobal.net
NEIL RAVITZ ’99 - Neil sends us a sunny and sandy hello from Iraq. Neil was
working in Washington DC at BearingPoint, a big five consulting firm along with
Brian Connolly '99 and Rich Fredricks ’97. However, in October he was mobilized
with the National Guard to Operation Iraqi Freedom II. He spent two months in
Baghdad, but since then has moved north to Ba’qubah. He sees lots of former ball
players over there. Doug Chadwick ’97 -Bill Thiele ’99 - Eric Olsen ’99 - Jarad
Churchill ’02 - Hise Gibson ‘97. Neil and Jarad had been involved in some fighting
and were two blocks from each other and never realized it. Gibson was a
Blackhawk pilot and doing his command time. Neil says everyone is looking good,
but are way too skinny from being in 130 degree heat. - neil.ravitz@us.army.mil
KENNY DALE ROWLAND ’99 - Kenny writes to us from Oklahoma City. He is
currently selling drugs for Johnson and Johnson. His wife Amy graduates with her
DDS next spring and then they are moving back to the “greatest place on earth Missouri”… Kenny Dale has added to the family since we last heard from him.
Jeffrey (9) - Sophia (4) - Skye (5 months). Kenny plans to make it to a game this
year.. - rowland@coxconnect.net
RICHARD WHITTINGTON ’99 - Richard reports to us that after graduation he
attended Ft. Benning school for boys. Was assigned to 1st BTN, 15th INF, 3rd INF
DIV. His unit deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom after 9/11 and
spent a year in the Middle East. Then they redeployed to the Middle East for
another 9 months for Operation Iraqi Freedom. Richard was part of the
destruction of the regime during the push to Baghdad. In March 2004 he left the
Army. Currently Rich is an Operations Manager for Inflow, Inc in Durham, NC.
He ends by stating “ I can say without a doubt that my time as an Army Football
Player prepared me for peace, war, and the rest of my life…”. Armyfootball50@aol.com
JOHN PALCISKO ’91 - John lives in Parma, OH and says there has been mucho
changes since last in touch. He was married in December and he and his wife Jamie
are expecting a baby girl in November. He was also recruited out from his old
company to head up the executive recruiting in the finance and accounting area in
Cleveland. - John.Palcisko@ajilonfinance.com
Classes from the 00’s
BRENDAN MULLEN ’01 - Brendan and Jesse Waters ‘01 are roommates, live
together in Washington, DC on Capitol Hill, and continue to work for the same
Search and Rescue Engineer Company for the President, Vice President and the
rest of the National Capitol Region. Brendan is hopeful of hearing from other
former players who might be in the DC area. - MullenB4@hotmail.com
Late Hits
……..COL Bob Johnson ’75 will be leaving WP Admissions Office for a new job at
the US Merchant Marine Academy………Frank Giordano ’64 - team OR from ‘92’95 is planning to attend the 9th Annual AFC Golf Outing July 29-30, 2005…..
……Former Army footballers who played key roles in the recent 8th Annual AFC
Golf Tournament include: Gaylord “Sihugo” Greene ’93, Joe Ross ’95, Mike
McElrath ’93, Gene McIntyre ’79, Mike Hogan ’82 ……….Rick Roper ’95 has
returned to WP………We pass along our prayers to the family of Robert Gora ’68
who passed away unexpectedly on July26th…………..John Simar ’72 shares the
following with all of you: Dan Cullinan ’73 played Plebe ball and then was forced to
retire from football due to concern about the number of concussions he had
sustained through the years, including a bad one in spring ball their Plebe year.
That one caused him to be turned back, and he graduated a year later than the class
he entered with ’72. Dan has two combat veteran sons. One an aviator, one a
Ranger. The Ranger son, Justin, was in Pat Tillman’s platoon. He had been
wounded in Afghanistan and was home recuperating when Pat Tillman was killed.
Ranger Cullinan was wounded and then carried a more seriously wounded Ranger
to safety. Justin tells the story about the flag football championship back at home
base before the war. He was QB and Tillman only played center and special teams.
He did not want to be the star. In the championship game, needing only a
touchdown, Cullinan asked Pat to play receiver this once and go long! Surely he
could beat everyone and they would win the championship. Tillman refused. He
said he would do nothing to embarrass a fellow Ranger……Great story about a
great American!!…….. Dan Cullinan, by the way, was Infantry, served as a Lt. in
COL. Dave Schorr’s battalion after he graduated and then served in the prestigious
Old Guard at Fort Meyer. He now owns his own business in Boston………….Bob
Coonan ’72 was a retired Navy Captain, as was his dad and brother. Bob died last
winter. He had directed the USO at Jacksonville Naval Air Station for only about a
year when he got pancreatic cancer. He fought the disease for 9 months before he
succumbed after a great fight. In April, the USO renamed their annual golf fundraiser for Bob. They invited his wife and two kids to be there as they dedicated the
Captain Bob Coonan USO Golf Tournament at JAX. He was a special guy. He
made the first five AFC golf outings, but missed #6 so he could help his wife move
them to a new home, and then #7 when he was sick from the cancer. We miss our
dear friend Bob Coonan, class of ’72…………..Jack Ryan - former Army Football
team doctor (Orthopedics) lives in Detroit with wife Bede and three boys. Doc Ryan
takes care of the Detroit Fury arena football team. - Jckrynmd@aol.com ………………
Bill Ray ’57 served 2 years (‘66-’67) as a B-squad coach after having played three
years on the Army B-squad. Bill and his family moved to Atlanta in 1991 after
retiring from the Army. Georgia Tech hired him to oversee the planning and
construction in support of the 1996 Olympic Village. The spring of 1996, Homer
Rice, the GT Athletic Director, asked Bill to be his Senior Associate. Bill remained
in that position until Homer retired in the Fall of 1998. After that he worked in
construction project management for Draper and Associates until this March when
he fully retired. - bill-ray@mindspring.com …………. Steve Heinecke ’77 informed us of
the passing of classmate Jody Fink -brother of J. Kinglsey Fink ’74. They are both
buried in the West Point Cemetery. Our prayers go out to the Fink
family……………. Robert “Blitz” Krieg ’94, Head Football Manager in ’93, and his
wife Lauren just had their second boy - Matthew in December. Blitz was stationed
in Germany but recently moved back to the states where he will be a Small Group
Instructor for the Field Artillery Captains’ Career Course. Lauren begins working
again as an RN at the County Hospital in Lawton, Oklahoma. robert.krieg@us.army.mil …………… Hazen Baron ’77 is currently serving as the Chief
of Staff, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, NC - baronhl@bragg.army.mil ………….
William Arrants ’66 is working as an advisor to the Bulgarian Ministry of Defense
in Sofia…w_arrants@hotmail.com ………. Former Army Football team OR Barry Butzer ’62 - remains retired and living in Sanford, NC and coaches the Lee
Senior HS Yellowjackets. He attended the NC HS Coaches Clinic and said Coach
Ross and his staff did a great job as a keynote speaker..B 2BUTTS@aol.com
……………
Charles R. “Bob” Kemble ’49 shares this “mostly untold story” for the readers of
THE PLAYBOOK. ARMY-NAVY ’48.
With a recurring bad ankle plebe year restricting my own athletics, I was recruited
by Brent Scowcroft to be a football manager and by the ’48 season was the head
manager. It was an enjoyable job, especially operating the film projector for that
extraordinary group of football minds (Blaik, Gilman, Gustafson, Sauer, Hickman,
et al.) as they formulated game plans. After practice on Thanksgiving Day 1948, the
Army team ate a turkey and dressing warmed -over dinner. That night I was
agonizing sick but told no one because I was determined to make the trip to
Philadelphia with the team the next day. To my shock at breakfast the next
morning, I found I was not alone. The entire squad was slumped over with heads on
the table: food poisoning. With that realization, I ran to the poop deck to tell the
Officer in Charge and to call Colonel Blaik. The OIC was as stunned as if I had
dropped a real, not verbal, bomb. But Blaik, in his laconic way, simply said, “Bring
them all to the football dressing room.” There the doctors gave us doses of
paregoric and lectures on what not to consume. The bus ride required unscheduled
stops for upchucking, and the usual Friday afternoon pregame light workout was
mostly just a walk to stretch. On Saturday the food poisoning had mostly subsided
but some were still ill and none back to full strength. After the 21-21 tie game,
which we had been heavily favored to win, Coach Blaik instructed me to say nothing
about the team’s condition. At the end of the game Captain Bill Yeoman won the
coin toss to receive the official game ball. On Monday following, Colonel Blaik
called me to his office and said, “Bob, Navy was the real winner Saturday. Go get
that ball from Bill, write a letter for both of you to sign and send it to Navy.”
Needless to say, Yeoman was less than thrilled with the idea but gave me a ballpurportedly THE ball. With some elaboration on the theme, I wrote that Navy had
won the moral victory so we were appropriately sending them the ball. My last
sentence was, “But wait until next year.” Blaik, ever the coach, told me that
wouldn’t do because their coaches would use it as an incentive for the Navy team in
’49. So with his approval, I changed that last sentence to read, “But remember
footballs take unexpected bounces.” I saw the ball and the letter in the trophy case
a few years later. To his credit, Coach Blaik never used the sickness of his team as
an excuse for not winning. As I recall, only a passing mention of it appeared in
some paper a few days later. I cannot remember who the reporter was, but he did
not get the story with the true consequences from the Army football office or
coaches……
Coach Greg Gregory - ass’t coach from ’85 to ’97 is out of coaching and selling
“drugs” in central Ohio. His son Grant starred in the Ohio High School All-Star
game and the Big-33 game pitting the senior stars from Ohio vs. Pennsylvania senior
all-stars. Grant signed with Indiana University………..Our condolences go out to
Joe Steffy ‘49 whose wife passed away this past spring………..The AFC presented
Coach Bobby Ross a check in the amount of $20,000 at the recent AFC Golf Outing.
The moneys will be used to pay for the pre-season training table meals…..Gene
Benner is recovering from colon cancer. He attended the golf outing and was
looking fit in spite of his many chemo and radiation treatments. Ed Pillings former head football trainer - is in his 80’s and living in Puolsbo, WA. He would
love receiving a phone call from some of his former players. (360-692-7335)……
Steve Lindell ’69 traveled from Italy to attend the recent AFC Golf outing…….We
heard that Bill Roden ’71 had heart bypass surgery recently……..Chris Destito ’89
has become a member of the FBI SWAT team recently. Chris still resides in
Burlington, VT………Chaplain Camp has his own website (a gift from his
daughter). He would like to invite you former players that knew him to his website www.ChaplainCamp.com. ………… Jason Sutton ’94 is a Portfolio manager for National
City Bank in Cleveland…………. Al Vanderbush ’61 will be undergoing surgery on
October 4 for knee replacement.
What follows is an interview that Bob Kinney conducted with me shortly
upon my return from the highly-successful golf tournament at West Point.
Bob thought it might be informative to the membership to learn how the
PLAYBOOK and the Golf Tournament came to be.
THE PLAYBOOK’s first issue occurred almost 10 years ago, with that
initial publication coinciding with the start of the 1995 season. What
was your thinking at the time (1) to begin such a project, and (2) how
did its name come about?
As a former football player and graduate of Bowling Green State University, I had been
receiving a similar type publication over the years. It was a way of keeping up- to-date
with teammates. The thought occurred to me that perhaps something like this would
work for the Army football family - especially having the great tradition and history over
the years. I shared my thoughts with the senior members and GA’s of the ’95 football
squad and asked their feelings about such a publication for former Army football players.
We all thought it would be a good way to connect all Army football players - Past and
Present.
Again, I asked the seniors and GA’s on that ’95 football team to think of a name that
would be appropriate for the publication. Joe Ross and Rick Roper, along with others,
and I discussed several possibilities. It was Rick Roper who finally suggested THE
PLAYBOOK, knowing that would get the attention of the players.
Have the goals you set back in ’95 been reached?
No doubt about it. Based on the feedback you and I get from these players as they send
their e-mails, it has been terrific and seems to be quite popular among the former players.
In the early years we had hard copies printed (which I would prefer) and mailed to the
guys. But with the modern conveniences of e-mail at no cost, I guess we are still
reaching the 700+ members of the AFC and that is what counts. It also seems to be
helping former players reconnect to the current football program.
What has been the response from former football players over the
years, particularly in the concept of “We’ve Heard From”?
Again, the response has been terrific. It appears to be bringing together and bonding all
former players. We are hearing from guys that played back in the 40’s, 50’s 60’ etc. seven decades of Army football players.. That speaks volumes!
You originated the Army Football Club’s golf tournament in 1997, not
knowing at the time how many former players would respond due to the
fact that most don’t live close to West Point. Were you pleased with
that initial response, and how has the tournament grown over the
years?
To tell you the truth, I wasn’t sure what type of response or reaction we would receive
knowing that a lot of the guys come back to West Point for their class reunions. Would
they make a special trip to play golf? The idea of the golf tournament ,again, came from
a similar event that was held each summer at Bowling Green. However, the vast majority
of the BG grads lived in Ohio and travel wasn’t a concern.
We formulated a committee and put together a game plan. The committee was hoping
that at least 50 guys would register and most likely they would be players that lived
nearby. We were more than satisfied with the response we got when we had well above
50 attend. It has been a highly successful undertaking each and every year since. It
seems that the numbers continue to grow each year as the word spreads among the
players.
When I retired in 1999 and left West Point, I wasn’t sure if the golf tournament would
continue. But thanks to the efforts of yourself (Bob Kinney), Dick Hall, Ben Russell,
Mike Hogan, Gene McIntyre and others, it has continued to be a success. It has certainly
been a “team” effort each and every year!
This past July the 8th annual golf tournament attracted well over 200
former players. A record number of 186 people played golf, forcing
fivesomes and sixsomes. Did you ever envision that the numbers would
balloon as high as they did?
As far as this past tournament, the numbers blew me away. Never in my wildest dreams
did I envision that many turning out for this tournament. But, in all fairness, I must say
that the real attraction this year was the popularity of Coach Bobby Ross and his staff and
the need for the former players to attend and to meet Coach Ross and his excellent staff.
They were not disappointed based on the comments I received in the e-mails after having
attended the outing. If the numbers continue to grow for the tournament, the logistics
will be a real challenge for the committee, but I know you all will rise to the occasion as
you did this year!
I believe the results of the effort that have gone into THE PLAYBOOK and the GOLF
OUTING was best illustrated at this year’s event when I observed last year’s young team
captain meeting and greeting players from the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, etc at the putting green. I
also saw a former player - class of ’93 - having conversation with a player from the 1970
team. To me, this is what it is all about - connecting all Army players!
8th Annual AFC Golf Tournament
July 30-31, 2004
Attendees, By Class
1949 Joe Steffy
1953 John Jamieson, Al Paulekas
1955 John Feagin, Joe Franklin
1956 John McGinn
1957 Tony Bullotta, Joe Cygler, Bob Dagle, Milton Ewanus, Tom Hicklin, Art Johnson,
Tom Kehoe, George Kilishek, Bill Ray, Nick Robinson, Dave Schorr, Dick Stephenson,
Ed Szvetecz, Bob Veal
1959 Pete Dawkins
1960 Bob Anderson
1961 Hampton Hodges, Al Vanderbush
1962 Tom Culver
1963 Joe Blackgrove, Bill Hawkins, Bruce Heim
1965 Ray Hawkins, John Johnson, Denny Lewis, Walter Oehrlein, Don Parcells, Ray
Paske, Rollie Stichweh, Bill Zadel
1966 Pete Braun, John Carber, Vince Casillo, Frank Cosentino, Sonny Stowers, Ed
Unruh, Tom Zurla
1967 Fred Barofsky, John Montanaro, Mike Neuman, Barry Nickerson, Bob Rettig,
David Rivers, Tom Schwartz, Jim Walden
1968 Jim Bevans, Jim Cima, Elwood Cobey, Keith Harrelson, Nick Kurilko, Bud
Neswiacheny, Hank Toczylowski
1969 Bob Allardice, John Bolger, Pete Dencker, Jodie Glore, Ken Johnson, Ron Lewis,
Steve Lindell, Gary Marshall, Dennis Pogany, Bob Yaap
1970 Bill Jackson, Gary Steele
1971 Joe Albano, Wes Blaine, John Fogarty, Ridge MacLaren, Dave Smith, Danton
Steele, Bernie Wall, Paul Watkins
1972 Pete Bucha, Tec Cahill, Hank Mumma, Ray Ritacco, Jack Roth, John Simar, Randy
Stein
1973 Scott Beaty, Ed Francis, Tim Pfister
1974 Ernie Chachere, Jim Cisek, Gerry Markham, Joe Miller, Jim Ward
1975 Dave DiGiacinto, Bob Simons
1976 Greg Dyson, Bob McClure
1978 Mike Castelli
1979 Gene McIntyre, Corky Messner, Chuck Schott
1980 Doug Lowrey
1981 T.D. Decker, Stan March, Dean Taylor
1982 John Garrison, Mike Hogan
1984 Larry Carroll, Mike Kwinn
1985 Brad Allen, Dean Chamberlain, Jim Jennings, Jeff Karsonovich, Scott Krawczyk,
John Roney, Mike Sears, Bob Silver, Rob Ulses
1986 Ron Rice, Roy Tomlinson
1987 Jim Brock, Joe Manausa
1988 Dave Berdan, Chance Conner, Ken Goodlow, Gerry Kobylski, Jeff Schorr
1989 Bryan Babb, Mike Karsonovich, Troy Lingley, Bill Lynch, Darryl Scherb
1990 Bert DeForest, George Godfrey, MikeO’Toole, John Silvers
1991 Otto Leone, Anthony Noto, Bret Petkus, Rone Reed, John Robb
1992 Pete Carey, Steve Chaloult, Lance Chambers, Jeff Johnson, Rob Martinez, Korey
Mitchell, Rick Pressel, Arlen Smith
1993 Dan Davis, Phil Fant, Gaylord Greene, Harold Jenkins, Patmon Malcom, Mike
McElrath, Dan Smith
1994 Paul Andrzejewski, Tony Cima, Matt Conway, Kevin Czarnecki, Todd Hawkins,
John Lane, Kevin Muir, Mike Plaia, Troy Prehar, Brett Rice, Jim Slomka, Jason Sutton,
Dave Wojczynski
1995 Jack Benecke, James Chun, Tony Daniel, James Duncan, Mark Houston, Lee
Langford, Rick Roper, Joe Ross, Mitch Sizelove, John Stull, Jami Wolocko
1996 Bill Blair, Jim Cantelupe, Joel Davis, Derek Klein, Abby Muhammad, Ed Stover,
Mike Wells
1997 Dan Cox
1998 Brad Miller
2000 Nate Hunterton
2003 Clarence Holmes
2004 Brian Hill, Ryan Kent
Other: Dom Alagia, Henry Andrzejewski Jr., Henry Andrzejewski III, Bob Arciero, Gene
Benner, Bob Berry, Art Browne, Doug Cahill, John Feinstein, Dick Hall, Jack Hecker,
Tim Kelly, Bob Kinney, John McCauley, Brent Oglesby, Ben Russell, Jim Wallace
Staff: Bobby Ross, Wally Ake, Stan Brock, Tyree Foreman, Bruce Hardin, Clarence
Holmes, Gary Miller, John Misciagna, John Mumford, Kevin Ross, Scott Swanson, Steve
Tovar, Adam Waugh, Tucker Waugh, Eddie Wilson
Committee Members:
Mike McElrath (Head), Gaylord Greene, Dick Hall, Mike Hogan, Bob Kinney, Bill
Lynch, Gene McIntyre, Aaron Osburn, Joe Ross, Ben Russell
Notes: First-time attendees reached a record number 56 … 11 have attended all eight
tournaments, not necessarily as players … that list includes Art Johnson ’57, Joe Cygler
’57, Denny Lewis ’65, Elwood Cobey ’68, Nick Kurilko ’68, Mike Castelli ’78, Gene
McIntyre ’79, Jeff Karsonovich ’85, Dick Hall, Ben Russell, and originator Jack Hecker
… a tip of the hat to those 11 … congratulations are in order likewise for Cobey, who for
the second time in four years shot a hole-in-one at #2 … unfortunately, that wasn’t the
hole designated for the hole-in-one prize of $5,000, but it was good enough for him to
receive a set of irons from the sponsor … nice going, Elwood.
Official Results
1st
-- Elwood Cobey ’68, Keith Harrelson ’68, Nick Kurilko ’68, Bud Neswiacheny ’68,
Scott Swanson (Strength Coach) … Record score of 56, 14-under-par.
2nd - Otto Leone ’91, Anthony Noto ’91, Bret Petkus ’91, John Robb ’91, Lance
Chambers ’92, Steve Chaloult ’92 … 57 score, one shot off the winning pace.
3rd - Ron Rice ’86, Roy Tomlinson ’86, Jim Brock ’87, Joe Manausa ’87, Nate
Hunterton ’00 … 59 score, coming out ahead on the tie-breaker with a birdie on 14.
4th - Pete Braun ’66, Vince Casillo ’66, Frank Cosentino ’66, Sonny Stowers ’66, Ed
Unruh ’66, Tom Zurla ’66 … also combined for a 59, but lost out on the $75 gift
certificates based on the tie-breaker on the 14th hole.
Other Scores:
60 - Hampton Hodges ’61, Bill Hawkins ’63, Ray Hawkins ’65, Ray Paske ’65, Brent
Oglesby, John Mumford (Coach)
60 - Bill Jackson ’70, John Fogarty ’71, Ridge MacLaren ’71, Dave Smith ’71, Danton
Steele ’71, Bruce Hardin (Coach)
61 - Dave Berdan ’88, Chance Conner ’88, Ken Goodlow ’88, Jeff Schorr ’88, Bryan
Babb ’89, Darryl Scherb ‘89
61 - Mike Plaia ’94, Brett Rice ’94, Jason Sutton ’94, Dave Wojczynski ’94, Mark
Houston ‘95
61 - Mike Kwinn ’84, Jack Benecke ’95, James Duncan ’95, Rick Roper ’95, Joe
Ross ’95, John Stull ‘95
61 - Bob Anderson ’60, Al Vanderbush ’61, Tom Culver ’62, Joe Blackgrove ’63,
Bruce Heim ‘63
61 - John Montanaro ’67, Mike Neuman ’67, Barry Nickerson ’67, David Rivers ‘67
Tom Schwartz ’67, Jim Walden ‘67
61 - Joe Albano ’71, Wes Blaine ’71, Bernie Wall ’71, Paul Watkins ’71, Eddie Wilson
(Coach)
61 - Dave DiGiacinto ’75, Bob Simons ’75, Bob McClure ’76, Jeff Karsonovich ’85,
Bob Silver ‘85
63 - Bob Arciero, Gene Benner, Rone Reed ’91, Dean Taylor ’81, Jim Wallace
63 - Paul Andrzejewski ’94, Jim Cantelupe ’96, Derek Klein ’96, Brad Miller ‘98
Henry Andrzejewski Jr., Henry Andrzejewski III
63 - John Jamieson ’53, Al Paulekas ’53, John Feagin ’55, Joe Franklin ’55, Pete
Dawkins ‘59
63 - John Johnson ’65, Denny Lewis ’65, Walter Oehrlein ’65, Don Parcells ’65, Rollie
Stichweh ’65, Bill Zadel ‘65
63 - Steve Lindell ’69, Gary Marshall ’69, Bob Yaap ’69, Gary Steele ’70, Joe Miller ‘74
63 - Doug Lowrey ’80, T.D. Decker ’81, Stan March ’81, John Garrison ’82, Larry
Carroll ‘84
64 - Joe Cygler ’57, Bob Dagle ’57, Art Johnson ’57, Dick Stephenson ’57, Ed
Szvetecz ‘57
64 - Scott Beaty ’73, Ed Francis ’73, Tim Pfister ’73, Gerry Markham ’73, Stan Brock
(Coach)
65 - Tony Cima ’94, Kevin Czarnecki ’94, Todd Hawkins ’94, John Lane ’94, Abby
Muhammad ‘96
65 - Matt Conway ’94, Kevin Muir ’94, Troy Prehar ’94, Jim Slomka ‘94
65 - Jim Bevans ’68, Jim Cima ’68, Hank Toczylowski ’68, John Bolger ’69, Dennis
Pogany ‘69
65 - Bob Allardice ’69, Pete Dencker ’69, Jodie Glore ’69, Ken Johnson ’69, Ron
Lewis ‘69
66 - Pete Bucha ’72, Ray Ritacco ’72, Jack Roth ’72, John Simar ’72, Randy Stein ‘72
66 - Tec Cahill ’72, Hank Mumma ’72, Ernie Chachere ’74, Jim Cisek ’74, Jim
Ward ’74, Doug Cahill
66 - Mike Castelli ’78, Gene McIntyre ’79, Corky Messner ’79, Chuck Schott ’79,
Tucker Waugh (Coach)
66 - Brad Allen ’85, Jim Jennings ’85, John Roney ’85, Mike Sears ’85, Clarence
Holmes ’03, Tyree Foreman (Coach)
67 - Dan Davis ’93, Gaylord Greene ’93, Harold Jenkins ’93, Patmon Malcom ’93,
Mike McElrath ’93, Dan Smith ‘93
67 - Tom Hicklin ’57, George Kilishek ’57, Nick Robinson ’57, Dave Schorr ‘57
68 - Mike Karsonovich ’89, Bert DeForest ’90, George Godfrey ’90, Mike O’Toole ’90,
John Silvers ‘90
68 - Pete Carey ’92, Jeff Johnson ’92, Rob Martinez ’92, Korey Mitchell ’92, Rick
Pressel ’92, Arlen Smith ‘92
68 - James Chun ’95, Tony Daniel ’95, Lee Langford ’95, Mitch Sizelove ’95, Jami
Wolocko ‘95
69 - Bill Blair ’96, Dan Cox ’97, Joel Davis ’96, Ed Stover ’96, Mike Wells ‘96
Note: 1st Place Winners each received $150 Gift Certificate, 2nd Place Winners $100 Gift
Certificate, Third Place Winners $75 Gift Certificate. The last place team received
medical kits, courtesy of Gary Marshall ‘69
Prizes
Putting Contest ($300 Driver) - Mike Kwinn ’84 (the only player to make his putt)
Longest Putt, Hole #4 ($100 Gift Certificate) - Bob Anderson ‘60
Longest Putt, Hole #18 ($100 Gift Certificate) - Rollie Stichweh ‘65
Longest Drive in Fairway, Hole #15 ($150 Gift Certificate) - Darryl Scherb ‘89
Closest to the Line, Hole #8 ($100 Gift Certificate) - Henry Andrzejewski III
Closest to Pin, Hole #6 ($100 Gift Certificate) - Joe Manausa ‘87
Closest to Pin, Hole #16 ($100 Gift Certificate) - Elwood Cobey ‘68
Class with Most Attendees - Class of 1957 with 14 … Tony Bullotta, Joe Cygler, Bob
Dagle, Milton Ewanus, Tom Hicklin, Art Johnson, Tom Kehoe, George Kilishek, Bill
Ray, Nick Robinson, Dave Schorr, Dick Stephenson, Ed Szvetecz, Bob Veal
Number of Classes Represented - 45
Door Prizes
Grand Drawing, Army-Navy Weekend Raffle - Mike Neuman ‘67
Coleman Tailgate Package (courtesy Dave Berdan’88) - Frank Cosentino ‘66
Dozen Golf Balls:
Gene Benner
Don Parcells ’65
Bob Anderson ’60
Gary Marshall ’69
Roy Tomlinson ’86
Doug Lowrey ’80
Dean Taylor ’81
Hank Toczylowski ’68
“Doc” Arciero
Rob Martinez ‘92
Joe Cygler ‘57
Dan Cox ‘97
Staff Shirts:
Steve Lindell ‘69
Ed Szvetecz ‘57
Tec Cahill ‘72
Bryan Babb ‘89
Art Johnson ‘57
Tom Hicklin ‘57
Bruce Heim ‘63
Tom Schwartz ‘67
Umbrellas:
Pete Bucha ’72
Joe Albano ’71
Pete Dencker ’69
Rick Roper ’95
Al Vanderbush ’61
Bert DeForest ‘90
T-Shirts:
Frank Cosentino ‘66
Pete Carey ‘92
Jim Cantelupe ‘96
Mike Karsonovich ‘89
John Roney ‘85
Special Thanks to the Following:
Steve Chaloult ’92 and Pete Bucha ’72 for contributing items for the Tee-Packages
Corky Messner ’79 for once again donating the beer and Dave Leek ’88 the Coke
Vic Losure from Elm Press for donating the packets included in the Tee-Packages
Hole Sponsors - Joe Franklin ’55, Dick Stephenson ’57, Don Fitzpatrick ’57, Bill
Zadel ’65, Bud Neswiacheny ’68, Jodie Glore ’69, Ron Lewis ’69, Paul Watkins ’71,
Ed Francis ’73, John Roney ’85, Rob Healy ’86, Joe Manausa ’87, Dave Berdan ’88,
Jeff Schorr ’88, Steve Chaloult ’92, James Duncan ’95, Mitch Sizelove ’95, Jim
Cantelupe ’96, Hotel Thayer, John Garrison ’82 (Putting Contest), Bill Lynch ’89 (Hole
In One).
Patrons - Mike Jezior ’60, Denny Lewis ’65, Vince Casillo ’66, Tom Zurla ’66, David
Rivers ’67, Elwood Cobey ’68, Bob Yaap ’69, Bill Jackson ’70, Tec Cahill ’72, John
Simar ’72, Gene McIntyre ’79, Jim Brock ’87, Mike Karsonovich ’89, Clay Smith ’94,
Bob Berry, Jack Hecker.
Flashback …
Can History Repeat Itself? Will History Repeat Itself?
What was months, then weeks, has now become just days before the 2004 edition of the
Army football team launches its season. The opener is set for September 11, against the
Louisville Cardinals, the preseason choice to finish atop the pack in Conference USA.
Louisville was 9-4 a year ago and returns 43 lettermen, 17 of whom were starters in 2003.
It figures to be a tough opener for Bobby Ross in his debut as head coach. Yet, looking
back 20 years, so was the opener for Jim Young when he junked a pro-type passing
offense that resulted in a 2-9 record the previous fall, in favor of the Wishbone.
There are some basic comparisons between the 1984 team and this year’s, well worth the
examination. Young realized during the ’83 campaign that the Cadets would have plenty
of trouble winning games if they stayed with the offensive system then in use. He liked
what Fisher DeBerry was doing at Air Force with his Wishbone approach. Even before
the ’83 season came to a close, he had decided that’s what he wanted to do the following
year.
What Young didn’t have at the time were proven players in the offensive backfield.
Many position adjustments were initiated during spring practice, resulting in the
following as the opener with Colgate drew near.
Quarterback: senior Nate Sassaman, a two-year letterman who had played some at QB as
a sophomore but spent the entire ’83 season at free safety in the defensive secondary.
Halfback: senior Jarvis Hollingsworth, who had lettered three times as a flanker but had
no collegiate experience at the halfback position. Also sophomore William Lampley, who
lettered his plebe year when he carried only 13 times for a net of 53 yards.
Halfback: senior Dee Bryant, a three-year letterman and parttime starter as a defensive
back.
Fullback: junior Doug Black, who would make his collegiate debut. Black had been cut
as a plebe, told he was “too small to make it as a linebacker and too slow to make it as a
fullback.” So he played intramural ball instead.
Young gave Black a chance to make the team during spring practice. He held the lowest
spot on the depth chart when spring drills commenced, yet when they ended he was ahead
of everyone else and projected as the starter when preseason camp opened. He never
relinquished that spot in the lineup.
Young didn’t know quite what to expect, but was obviously pleased with the final
outcome.
“We’ve waited a while for this game,” he would say after the Cadets had posted a very
decisive 41-15 victory. “There’s a long way to go yet to get where we want to be, but this
was a big first step. The players are now believing in themselves, which is very
important.”
It didn’t take long for the 32,000-plus seated in the stands at Michie to see that the Cadets
were headed in the right direction with their new offensive system. After forcing Colgate
to punt on its first possession - the Red Raiders gained only one yard in three plays Army drove inside the 5. The attack stalled there, though, so kicker Craig Stopa booted a
27-yard field goal to give the Cadets they would not relinquish.
That lead ballooned to 24-12 by halftime, thanks to touchdowns on three of the next four
possessions. Black broke loose for a 37-yard field goal late in the opening quarter, then
Lampley upped the lead to 17-6 with a 33-yard dash less than five minutes into the
second stanza. A 21-yard run into the end zone by Sassaman provided the Cadets with
their 12-point cushion at the half.
Army was to outscore the Red Raiders 17-3 over the final 30 minutes, cashing in on a 45yard field goal by Stopa and runs of one-yard each by Sassaman and reserve fullback
Andy Peterson. Overall, the Cadets would rush for 441 yards on 81 carries. Black was
tops with 124 yards rushing, followed by Sassaman with 123 and Lampley with 102.
While Colgate gained 299 yards through the air, forced to throw the ball 42 times, it
could muster just 19 yards on the ground - that on 24 attempts as the Army defense stood
tall. The Cadets also intercepted two Colgate passes, both cornerback John Thomson and
linebacker Marty Baptiste getting into the act.
To say that Army had taken a giant step forward with this victory would be putting it
mildly. Young couldn’t have agreed more.
“This game was a very big step for us. We’re a different football team than what we were
last year. However, it’s just a start. There’s a long way to go,” he cautioned.
Well, we know where that opening victory led to in ’84. The Cadets would complete the
regular season with a 7-3-1 mark, losing to Rutgers, Syracuse and Boston College but
tying Tennessee in Knoxville one week after toppling Colgate. That record was good
enough to earn Army its first-ever bowl invite, in the inaugural Cherry Bowl where it
knocked off favored Michigan State, 10-6.
Bobby Ross faces a similar challenge this year. Army will employ a more balanced
offense than was utilized last fall - more like 55% running and 45% passing -- and will go
with a defensive scheme that will call for more diversity and specialization in coverages.
And while Louisville is certainly levels above Colgate, the desire to succeed and win is
still as intense for this year’s group of players.
“Believing in themselves” is a term Ross has used on many an occasion. He promises this
team will be competitive from the opening whistle to the last and will be as prepared as it
can possibly be for each and every game on the schedule.
“They say confidence comes from winning, but even before that if you don’t have the
winning, it’s got to come from preparation,” he explains. “When I first got here, I asked
the players, ‘how many of you want to win?’ All of them raised their hands. Then I
asked, ‘how many of you want to prepare to win?’
“I remind the players all the time, when you go into an exam and you’re prepared, you
feel pretty good, you feel pretty confident. If you’re not prepared, you don’t feel very
confident. So we’re really going to stress the preparation phase of things.
“The next thing is for us to play with great effort. That’s something that we all have
control over. Sometimes people think they have an understanding of effort, but they may
not understand effort. When I talk about effort, I’m going to talk about commitment, and
it’s not a part of what I can do. It’s ALL of what I can do. I’m not just talking about a part
of me. I’m talking about ALL of me. I’m really going to be persistent in that. That is
going to be a key and an important part of things for us. Big plays and good things don’t
happen automatically. You make them happen, and it all starts with effort.
“I told our players, every game that we take the field, we’re going to talk about playing
from the bottom of our heels to the top of our heads, and leave a little bit of ourselves out
there. If we do that and we play well, we’ll be OK, we really will. We can’t beat
ourselves, that’s going to be a huge factor. The other factor is that I want us to be a tough
football team, I mean a REALLY TOUGH football team,” he concludes.
Come September 11, we should have some answers. Can history repeat itself? Will
history repeat itself? Stay tuned.