debt, GDP and migration

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The economic dimensions of the
sovereignty debate in Québec:
debt, GDP and migration
Kim Somers
and
François Vaillancourt
Université de Montréa/CIRANO
Outline of presentation
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Background
Debt issues
GDP issues
Migration Issues
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Background-1 Demography
• Francophone part of North America
• Population of 8 million
• Decreasing share of Canada’s population
29%=>24% 1960-2010
• 80% French speaking stable 1960-2010
• 60% Francophones do not know English
• Net loser of interprovicial migration since
1960
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Background-2: key dates
• Québec was never independent:
– French(Nouvelle-France)1608-1763
– British(Scottish) 1763-1867
– Province of Canada 1867-
• Révolution tranquille 1960-1966:
modernization
• Independence parties 1960=>1968 PQ
• Referendum 1980 and 1995
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Background 3-the constitutional
background(2)
• What does Québec want?
• Fulton Favreau 1964=>Union Nationale 1966
• Victoria Charter 1971+ Gens de l’air 1976=>
PQ 1976
• Trudeau amendment patriation 19811982;Québec said no
• Meech Lake 1987-1990
• Charlottetown 1992 national referendum
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Background-sovereignty support,%
vote
49
50
45
40
40
35
30
30
25
25
20
15
10
10
5
0
1960
1966
1970
1973
1980
1995
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1961
1962
1963
1964
1965
1966
1967
1968
1969
1970
1971
1972
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
1979
1980
1981
1982
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993
1994
1995
1996
1997
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
Background sovereignty support polls
1961-2012
60
50
40
30
20
10
0
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Debt issues -1
• Existence of risk premium
• Sharing of debt
• Context of large federal deficits 1974-1997
resulting in little mention in 1980 referendumand bonds that tie in 1995
• Context of indebted province dependent on
federal transfers for 20% public revenues
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Debt issues -Premium
Johnson and McIlwraith 08-10/1995 Q/O
Post referendum drop
≈ 0.40
Burnie 1975-1990
=0,55
Booth Georgopoulos and Hejazi 1981-2000 Q/ROC
prov
≈0,25
Thibeault’s and Wynant 01/1976-10/1978
Maximum:0,6 in Canada and
1.0 in USA declining over time
Schuknecht, von Hagen and Wolswijk 1991-2005
0
Average premium 5 studies
≈0.35-0.40
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Debt issue-Sharing
method
%
Population
Pre or post migration
GDP
25.4 (1990);23.6 (2011) ∆1% migration?
Assets linked debt
16.6-19.3 (1991)
Past benefits (fiscal balance)
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Average
24,6
23.2 (1990) : 19.6(2011)
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GDP-1: 1£=1.6$
• 320 billion $ in 2012
• Decreasing share of Canada’s GDP 1961-2011
=> 26%=>19%
• Increasing share of Int X relative to Can X
• More diversified output than Alberta (oil) or
Ontario(cars)
• Ongoing impact
• Secession impact
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1966
1967
1968
1969
1970
1971
1972
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
1979
1980
1981
1982
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993
1994
1995
1996
1997
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
GDP per capita 1966-2010(1992$)
35000
30000
25000
Quebec
20000
Ontario
15000
10000
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2010
2008
2006
2004
2002
2000
1998
1996
1994
1992
1990
1988
1986
1984
1982
1980
1978
1976
1974
1972
1970
1968
1966
Differences O-Q GDPper capita(1992$)
7500
7000
6500
6000
5500
5000
4500
4000
3500
3000
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Dependent variable: Q/O GDP ratio
1966-2010
Independent variable
lnEmployment
lnCapital
Dummy_PQt
Equation 1
Equation 2
Equation 3
Equation 4
(Robust OLS level)
(OLS level)
(PWE level)
(PWE level)
0.298*
0.235*
0.169
0.152
0.395*
0.451*
0.492*
0.462*
0.011
-0.000
Index_PQt
R2
-0.004
0.73
0.72
0.001
0.24
0.25
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1966
1967
1968
1969
1970
1971
1972
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
1979
1980
1981
1982
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993
1994
1995
1996
1997
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
Private non-residential Investment PC
Q and O (1992$)
1600
1400
1200
1000
Quebec
Ontario
800
600
400
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Dependent variable: Q/O I ratio 19662010
Independent variable
lnBenefitst-1
nGDPt-1
Equation 1
Equation 2
Equation 3
Equation 4
(OLS level)
(Robust OLS level)
(PWE level)
(Robust PWE level)
-0.031
-0.070
-0.314
-0.316*
3.700*
3.690*
3.082*
3.070*
l
Dummy_PQt
-0.019
-0.001
Index_PQt
R2
-0.002
0.49
0.49
0.000
0.25
0.25
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GDP-Impacts
• Results above similar to Lavoie Perron
Vaillancourt
• Impact of secession
– Common currency Can $ Joint Central bank?
– 1980 Common sense trade; 1995 NAFTA
framework (Québec early supporter)
• Dungan Vaillancourt (1991) 1.5-3.5% -∆
simulation
• Income effect greater: equalisation, EI,…
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1961
1962
1963
1964
1965
1966
1967
1968
1969
1970
1971
1972
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
1979
1980
1981
1982
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993
1994
1995
1996
1997
1998
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
Net inter-provincial migration
Québec,1961-2010
5000
0
-5000
-10000
-15000
-20000
-25000
-30000
-35000
-40000
-45000
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Impact PQ on Q inter-provincial
migration balance 1961-2010
Independent
variable
Employmentt
Equation 1
Equation 2
Equation 5
Equation 6
(Robust OLS
(Robust OLS
(Robust
(Robust PWE
level)
level)
PWE level)
level)
204,699*
265,164* 291,606*
220,970*
Q/O
Earningst
-19,547
-32,839
-10,585
-9.561
Q/O
Dummy_PQt
-8,471*
Index_PQt
R2
-6,895*
-342*
0.78
0.74
-453
0.56
Language variables not show
0.50
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Loss in Human capital 3 periods
,Québec (Charest)
Total loss
% anglophones % CH loss in
$ billions
in migrants
CH capital
stock
1976-
32
64
3,8
8
47
0,7
19
43
1,6
1981
19861991
19962001
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Migration post indepedence
• Out migration post independence
• Maximum estimated at 20% non
francophones => 300 000- 350 000
• + 1% francophones=> 60 000
• Total 400 000 or 5% population
• Minimum 200 000
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Conclusion
• Sovereignty threat =>-∆ in labour flows and
higher cost for K public (and private)
• Québec fiscal policy attracts K by subsidization
financed by taxes on immobile labour (F)
• Standard of living would drop by about 5% in
long run as fiscal balance both FG=>QG and
FG=>Q individual is positive (3-5% GDP)
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