IEEE Education Partners Program
Bulletin Board Focus Group Transcript –Participants
May 27, 2008
Moderator: Robin Wedewer – 410.414.5718 – robinw@wedewergroup.com
'1.1
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:00:50 PM
Thanks for joining me! My name is Robin Wedewer and I will be conducting the interview
about the IEEE Education Partners Program.
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questions sequentially.
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'1.1.1 Ankur 5/18/2008 9:44:24 AM
hi
Thank you for choosing for an interview. i will follow up and complete the interview.
'1.1.2 Michael
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5/18/2008 1:42:56 PM
'1.1.3 Hardik 5/19/2008 11:51:35 AM
Ok. I will try my best to answer each question.
'1.1.4 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:12:06 PM
Hi Robin.
'1.1.5 Robert 5/19/2008 11:10:40 PM
ok
'1.1.6 Amit 5/21/2008 10:20:53 AM
Thank You. I am looking forward for this Interview.
'2.1
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:00:57 PM
Let’s start with your background. Where do you live? What is your position and what kind of
work do you do?
Also, how long have you been a member of IEEE? Do you belong to any of the IEEE
societies or sections? Which ones?
'2.1.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:45:18 PM
Berkeley Heights, NJ
My title is Applications Services Analyst. I work IT in an organization called Enterprise
Collaboration and Content Management. Personally I contribute to the Content
Management solutions for my company. For a pharma, content management is key due to
the huge regulatory aspects of our industry. I design and support integrations between
other applications and our CM platform. I have been a member of IEEE for 10 years and
joined in college. I am a member of the Northern NJ Section and the Computer Society.
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'2.1.2 David 5/18/2008 2:14:47 PM
Willow Grove, PA, Philadelpohia suburb.
IEEE member 15 years. Computer Society 10 years. Software section of and on for 10
years.
'2.1.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:04:34 PM
My name is Ankurkumar Thakorbhai Patel. i recently changed my address. and my New
address is 3809 Woodbine ave,Avenel, nj 07001.
I am Student of Stevens Institute of Technology. I am atleast 5 years member of Ieee. like
In india our college has ieee member so we are not personaly member of IEEE. but After i
Came to USA i had 2 yrs membership as student.
'2.1.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:11:33 PM
I live in Newton NJ which is in the northwest part of the state.
I work in retail at Home Depot as a head cashier where I am in charge of the cashiers. I
am also an adjunct faculty member at Sussex County Community College where I teach an
online C++ programming class that I designed. On the side I aslo have my own computer
repair business.
I have been an IEEE member for 3 years. I belong to the computer society.
'2.1.5 Hardik 5/19/2008 11:54:31 AM
I live in Philadelphia, PA, USA. I am working as College Co-Op Junior in the health
insurance company. I am working as a lab technician in IT.
I am a member of IEEE since Jan 2007. No.
'2.1.6 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:12:32 PM
I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
I am a Sr. Software Tester for Medical Device Software
I have been an IEEE member for 2 years
I belong to the Computer and EMBS societies
'2.1.7 Jessica 5/19/2008 12:15:58 PM
I live in Maple Shade, NJ. I am a systems engineer working with radar systems. I have
been a member of IEEE since 2006.
'2.1.8 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:00:19 PM
I currently live in Philadelphia, PA. I work as an electrical design engineering at Peach
Bottom Atomic Power Station in Delta, PA. My position is in the engineering response
team, where most of my work is provided to support operations and maintenance activities
on an emergent schedule. I prepare design packages for system and equipment upgrades
and repairs, as well as maintain drawings, calculations, and other station design records.
I have been an IEEE member since 2005. I am a member of the Power an Energy Society
and Control Systems Society.
'2.1.9 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:13:23 PM
I live in Vergennes, Vermont. I work for Goodrich as an Engineering manager. I have
been in the IEEE for around 30 years. I don't currently belong to any of the IEEE societies
or sections.
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'2.1.10
Kunal 5/19/2008 4:10:50 PM
I live in Jersey city, New jersey, i am a recent graduate. I am the member of IEEE since
2006.
'2.1.11
Plamen
5/19/2008 7:08:32 PM
I live in Jersey City, NJ. I am an Infrastructure Associate and I work in IT Support.
I have been a member of IEEE for 1 year and I do not belong to any IEEE societies or
sections.
'2.1.12
Robert 5/19/2008 11:12:21 PM
I live in Wyckoff, NJ. I am a senior software developer. I lead a small group of developers
in producing software solutions. I been a member of IEEE for a very long time over 10
years probably. I do not belong to any of the societies or sections.
'2.1.13
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:10:30 PM
I live in New Jersey. I am an electrical engineer with a local oil refinery. I have been a
member of IEEE for 8 years and I belong to the Power and Engery Society.
'2.1.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:39:10 AM
IEEE member 3 years.
Currently not a a member of any societies.
'2.1.15
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:40:50 AM
Live in Clearwater FL.
Position is Applications Delivery Systems Analyst.
Gather and document software requirements for supply chain management systems.
'2.1.16
Amit 5/21/2008 10:22:43 AM
I live in USA. I have been working as a Analyst for a IT solution Company. I have been
member of IEEE for more than 2yrs and I don't belong to any societies.
'2.1.17
Yaw
5/21/2008 1:09:07 PM
Bryans Road MD
Sr Systems Engineer
Defense Industry
10 years IEEE Member
'2.2
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:00:57 PM
Since we’re here to talk about the IEEE Education Partners program, tell me about the
course or courses that you took through the program. What school? What course or
courses?
Were the course or courses traditional classroom courses or online?
'2.2.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:46:26 PM
I took two of the classes for my Masters in Engineering through the IEEE program with the
Stevens Institute of Tech WebCampus program. I don't recall exactly what classes this
was as it was a few years ago. The classes were online.
'2.2.2 David 5/18/2008 2:17:06 PM
Drexel University. I am taking masters level courses dealing with software engineering
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topics towards a MSEE degree. All online.
'2.2.2.1
David 5/18/2008 2:33:07 PM
Sorry, MSSE
'2.2.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:09:27 PM
In my undergraduation(Bachelor), my major was Electronics and Communicaiton. and in
my Master program, my major is Wireless Communication.
My Bachelor university is
Maharaja Sayaji Rao University(MSU)
Faculty of Technology
Baroda,Gujarat,India
My master University is
Stevens Institute Of Technology
Hoboken Nj 07030
IN my master i took online courses and aslo on campus courses. all are related to Wireless
communication.
'2.2.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:12:27 PM
I have taken online classes from Stevens Institute of Technology to earn my masters in
computer scince.
'2.2.5 Hardik 5/19/2008 11:57:58 AM
I have taken some wireless communication and LAN related classes as I have networked
Information Science as my major and at Stevens Institute of Technology, Hoboken, NJ. I
have taken all online classes.
'2.2.6 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:14:02 PM
I too a CD based Business Systems Analyst certificate course through Inquestra Learning
'2.2.7 Jessica 5/19/2008 12:18:59 PM
I took system engineering courses through Stevens Institute of Technology. Courses I took
through the program were 1) Project Management for Complex Systems 2) Robust
Engineering 3) System Architecture 4) Intro to System Engineering amongst other
courses.
These courses were offered both online and on campus. I choose to take the courses
online.
'2.2.8 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:03:29 PM
I am currently enrolled at Drexel University in the Masters of Engineering program in
electrical engineering. The program consists of 15 courses overall. I have taken 8 total
(including one currently). The program is an online program, however certain courses
allow the online students to participate on campus in a traditional classroom setting. I
have taken several classes on power systems, system analysis and modeling, and
engineering management and law.
'2.2.9 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:14:55 PM
I've been in the Masters of Engineering Management program at Drexel since 2004. I've
taken 11 of the required 16 courses to complete this degree. All the courses were online.
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'2.2.10
Kunal 5/19/2008 4:11:56 PM
I took courses in wireless communication and Spread spectrum and CDMA through
Stevens Institute of Technology's online classes.
'2.2.11
Plamen
5/19/2008 7:12:39 PM
I took all of my courses at Stevens Institute of Technology. I took a mix of traditional oncampus courses and off-campus distance learning ones. The courses I took ranged from
Information Networks and E-Business Security and Information Assurance to
Computational Methods in Finance and Portfolio Theory and Risk Management.
'2.2.12
Robert 5/19/2008 11:18:29 PM
I am taking classes for my MBA from Stevens in Hoboken NJ.
I have taken 11 of 20 classes so far. I have taken 6 classes online and 5 in class.
The classes online were
Financial Management
Organizational Theory and Design
Organizational Behavior Theory
Network Management
Managerial Economics
Data and Knowledge Management
The classroom classes were
Introduction to Project Management
Managerial Accounting
Financial Services Back Office
Financial Services Marketing & Sales
Statistical Models
'2.2.13
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:11:27 PM
The courses were online courses through Drexel University. They are management type
courses toward advancing my career.
'2.2.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:43:04 AM
Currently taking a series of courses to obtain a Business Systems Analysis certificate. Online courses w/ Inquestra Learning.
Courses complete: Defining Project Scope, Describing Business Processes, Documenting
Requirements Meetings.
'2.2.15
Yaw
5/21/2008 1:10:04 PM
Stevens Institute of Technology
MSc Systems Engineering
Online
5 Classes
'2.3
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:00:57 PM
When you are looking for a particular program or area in which you want to acquire
knowledge or skills and you do not have a particular resource in mind, where do you start
your search? How do you go about finding what you need?
'2.3.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:48:05 PM
I'm generally going to start with the resources that our Company has partnered with to
provide training since we are required to use those first. When it came to picking a place
to take my Masters, since I was completing it while working full time I needed some place
close by. Online learning hadn't really come into it's own yet. Also, I did my
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undergraduate at Stevens so I was comfortable with it.
'2.3.2 David 5/18/2008 2:20:03 PM
I usually start with a general internet search. In terms of pratical skills I start at
MSDN.com or codeproject.com.
'2.3.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:18:47 PM
When i was in 8th standard, my father is inspired about engg. field. then i joined
Technical school. At that juncture, i was come across so many new Technologies. so I
decided to Go about Communcation line particularly Satellite Communication. I did my
Undergrad in Electronics and communication. now i Want to go further in Satellite
communication. so i check the course list of major universities and i found Stevens had
this kind of major.
But when i came here, i took course but minimum student requirement is not filled so they
just drop down the course. so i diverted my mind to the wireless communication.so here
also i found that my college also member of ieee. so i just joined so i can acquire
knowledge from ieee. also so many other site which helps in to find about this major.
I know one of the best site is www.google.com
anything you find out on this site.
'2.3.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:13:47 PM
I usually start by using a search engine on the internet and then I just look through the
results to see if I can find what I want.
'2.3.4.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:01:25 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
'2.3.4.1.1 Fred F. 5/21/2008 8:49:55 PM
I don't recall finding any IEEE sources.
'2.3.5 Hardik 5/19/2008 12:00:20 PM
First, I search on online and then, find an appropriate article or book for it. Sometimes, I
look in to IEEE magazines also.
'2.3.5.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:01:43 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
'2.3.5.1.1 Hardik 5/22/2008 2:46:58 PM
Yes. I have searched for couple of wireless classes to sign up and found it.
'2.3.6 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:16:33 PM
I use google a lot ;o)
I also navigate through the IEEE website so see if any of the Educations Partners offer the
class I'm looking to take.
'2.3.6.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:01:55 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
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'2.3.6.1.1 Shylah 5/21/2008 8:27:59 PM
I have never found IEEE sources when I do internet searches
'2.3.7 Jessica 5/19/2008 12:21:45 PM
I usually go to a search engine (primarily Google) and type the program or area I am
interested in. I look through different programs offered and through url links within
websites I usually find what I am looking for.
'2.3.7.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:02:04 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
'2.3.7.1.1 Jessica 5/23/2008 9:06:14 AM
No I don't remember finding IEEE sources for courses. I see IEEE articles pop up mainly
when I type in engineering keywords such as antenna propagation or cluster tracking
'2.3.8 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:06:43 PM
If I know what area I am looking to acquire new knowledge and skills in, I would typically
ask collegues who have experience in those areas if they could recommend a resource
they have used in the past. Otherwise, I would probably search the internet, starting with
a professional society that particular area might fall under.
'2.3.8.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:02:17 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
'2.3.8.1.1 Jonathan
5/24/2008 5:26:58 PM
I am not quite sure what you mean my IEEE sources, but if I take that to mean courses
supported by the IEEE and taught by external organizations (like the education partners
program) then no I do not remember seeing that. I have come across courses/seminars
run by the IEEE directly during internet searches.
'2.3.9 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:16:20 PM
Google, or if I know someone who has some knowledge in the area of interest, I'll talk with
them.
'2.3.9.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:02:24 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
'2.3.9.1.1 Fred L. 5/21/2008 7:28:27 PM
No, I don't think I've ever had IEEE sources show up for course searches.
'2.3.10
Plamen
5/19/2008 7:15:41 PM
I usually start out with the biggest schools in the area to check about offerings of
particular programs and once I get an idea of the area I want to focus on, I go on to
research other possibilities. I have utilizied Yahoo! as a resource of finding local
universitites and colleges.
'2.3.10.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:02:39 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
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'2.3.10.1.1
Plamen
5/23/2008 2:16:48 PM
I don't think I have come across any, honestly.
'2.3.11
Robert 5/19/2008 11:20:44 PM
I was looking for a MBA program that held online classes so I could be at home and do
some of the classes, however it had to be close enough that I could drive there for classes.
I was looking for a middle of the road MBA program. I used primarily the web.
'2.3.11.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:02:52 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
'2.3.11.1.1
Robert 5/21/2008 11:14:25 PM
No I do not find IEEE sources.
'2.3.12
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:13:07 PM
I start with a simple search of the internet. I type in a broad description of what I am
looking for and narrow down from there. I will then spend a lot of time verifying the
accuracy of the information.
'2.3.12.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:03:05 AM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
'2.3.12.1.1
Jeff
5/23/2008 6:48:48 AM
I do not remember find IEE resources in my search for classes. I have found IEEE
articles when I am doing research for work. If I am looking for technical information,
IEEE comes up a lot.
'2.3.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:04:02 PM
I generally start by asking my university's professors.
'2.3.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:46:14 AM
Usually begin my search with Google, just searching the topic.
'2.3.14.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 12:33:57 PM
Do you recall if you ever find IEEE sources when you do internet searches for classes
you're interested in taking?
'2.3.14.1.1
Barbara
5/23/2008 12:03:25 PM
Not in the returned list of links from searches. I only found out about IEEE partnership
w/ the inquestra course when I was about to register.
'2.4
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:00:57 PM
I wonder how people learn about the IEEE Education Partners program. Do you think
there’s a wide awareness of the program among the IEEE members?
'2.4.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:49:12 PM
I came across the program by chance after I had started by degree. The Stevens web site
included mention of a 10% discount for IEEE members and that certain caught my eye.
Other than that, I may never or learned about it. I suspect that is a view shared by many
others.
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'2.4.2 David 5/18/2008 2:21:55 PM
I really have no idea how people learn about the program. I probably got an email about it
many years ago. Can't remember exactly.
'2.4.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:21:43 PM
As per my opinion this is very good program that ieee started. because it helps too many
people in Electrical and Electronics Field of Area. they share their publication also so many
program in studet member will participate. also you can build yours careers in Ieee
organization.
'2.4.3.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:04:12 AM
Do you recall how you learned about the program?
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'2.4.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:15:07 PM
I think there is a good awareness of the program. I learned about it through the university
where I was taking classes.
'2.4.4.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:04:56 AM
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Can you be more specific about how learned about the program through the university?
Did someone tell you? Was there a poster?
'2.4.5 Hardik 5/19/2008 12:01:09 PM
Yes. because of timely reply through emails and mails to IEEE members and others.
'2.4.6 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:18:48 PM
I don't think that many members know about the Education Partners.
'2.4.6.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:05:20 AM
Do you recall how you learned about the program?
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'2.4.7 Jessica 5/19/2008 12:23:17 PM
I did not find out about the program through IEEE. I found out about the program through
the graduate school I attended. They had a website that advertised which societies offer
discounts to tuition.
'2.4.8 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:08:54 PM
The program was pretty well advertised on the IEEE web page, but I know from talking
with my colleagues that are IEEE members that not everyone is aware of it. Part of my
reason for joining the IEEE was the opportunities available through the education partners
program.
'2.4.9 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:18:13 PM
It has been well publicized. I'm not very actively involved with the IEEE, but I do read the
Spectrum and other IEEE news articles. The Education Partners program is almost always
promoted.
'2.4.10
Plamen
5/19/2008 7:17:16 PM
I would say they don't. I found out about the Education Partners program through an ad
on the Graduate Admissions website at my school and that's how I ended up taking
advantage of it.
'2.4.11
Robert 5/19/2008 11:21:46 PM
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Everything is on the web. If people want to know they can search for it. I always know
that IEEE has educational programs available to me from the mailings I receive.
'2.4.12
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:15:17 PM
I learned of it through IEEE emails to my home email account. I think the members are
aware of the programs.
'2.4.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:05:12 PM
I got information from my university and I do think there is awareness among IEEE
members
'2.4.13.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:06:37 AM
(Deleted)
Can you be more specific about how exactly you learned about the program through the
university? Did someone tell you? Was there a poster or something?
'2.4.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:48:14 AM
During my search for Business Systems Analysis courses, I learned of the IEEE EP
program. Honestly, this prompted me to renew my membership with IEEE.
I have no opinion regarding other members awareness of the program.
'2.5
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:00:57 PM
How did you first learn about the IEEE Education Partners? Can you describe the path that
took you to the program?
'2.5.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:50:17 PM
As I said earlier, it was luck. I stumbled across the program while on my school's web
site. At that point, I was sure to use it for any classes that were included in the program.
I only used it twice since I found that I didn't like online learning and wasn't very
successful at it.
'2.5.1.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:11:50 AM
That's interesting about the online learning. Why didn't you like it/not successful at it?
'2.5.1.1.1 Michael
5/21/2008 6:16:24 PM
The Web Campus classes at Stevens were not/are not very interactive. Essentially, you
work from a book and class notes and do homework. I have a hard time learning about
new topics from books. I do much better in a classroom setting where I can be walked
through something instead of reading the text book. I've always found this to be the
fact for me event from when I was a child. If I have to learn a new concept from a
book, I have a much harder time with it than if somebody can explain it to me and show
me. Also, when the learning is up to me, I have a hard time keeping my attention.
When home, I can easily drift off into something else.
'2.5.2 David 5/18/2008 2:23:02 PM
See last question. I think I went right to the University. I got billed the total amout the
first time and had to remind them of the program.
'2.5.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:26:18 PM
I found this Education program form Stevens Institute Techology. Because of that i came
across too many resources and programs, one of them is IEEE Education program in which
depending upon courses u took you will get gradution degree as well as discount on
courses too.
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'2.5.3.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:13:05 AM
Can you be more specific about how, exactly, you learned about it through the
university?
'2.5.3.1.1 Ankur 5/23/2008 7:37:03 PM
actually, In my undergrad, My prof. told me about that ieee Organization porvide
education of some courses. but when i came to My master degree, i learned some
courses who offers in my university.
Also They put Banner on Webcampus Courses offer By IEEEE.
'2.5.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:16:16 PM
I learned about the program through the IEEE website and my colleges's website. When I
was registering for classes they said they offered a discount for IEEE members so I started
looking into it.
'2.5.5 Hardik 5/19/2008 12:03:51 PM
first, I have heard from one of my friends and then, I have received emails about it. I have
no particular path.
'2.5.6 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:21:39 PM
I learned about the EP when I first joined IEEE - think it was mentioned in my welcome
letter.
I later looked through the website and checked out all the provider's websites and chose
Inquestra based on the price and program they offered
'2.5.7 Jessica 5/19/2008 12:27:19 PM
I learned about it through Stevens Inst. of Technology website. Their website had a section
that advertises which professional societies are members of providing tuition discount.
IEEE was among the professional societies included.
'2.5.8 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:12:12 PM
I had been considering joining the IEEE after graduating from undergraduate school and
was researching memeber benefits on their web page. Since I was intending on continuing
my education while working full time, the education partners program was a big selling
point for joining the IEEE. In particular, I knew Drexel has a strong power engineering
program, which is an area I am interested in, so I liked that I could get a discounted rate
through the IEEE at that school.
'2.5.9 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:19:54 PM
I had already been enrolled in the Drexel program when I saw an advertisement
publicizing the IEEE program. It offered 10% off my tuition. I investigated it, and have
enjoyed a 10% reduced tuition ever since.
'2.5.9.1
Robin - Moderator
Where was the advertisement?
5/21/2008 9:13:55 AM
'2.5.9.1.1 Fred L. 5/21/2008 7:33:39 PM
I'm pretty sure it was in Spectrum, but might have been in The Institute paper.
'2.5.10
Plamen
5/19/2008 7:18:28 PM
As mentioned in the previous question, I saw an ad on my school's website for the IEEE
Education Partners program. I was looking for course offerings and availability when I
stumbled upon it.
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'2.5.11
Robert 5/19/2008 11:24:26 PM
I actually fell into it. I was looking for a program online and I realize by reading the web
site that it was a IEEE educational Partner for online classes. This would give me a 10%
discount to take classes online. I started then to take classes primarily online.
'2.5.12
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:17:27 PM
I learned about the program through Drexel. I stated that I was an IEEE member on my
application. I took the Drexel program because it will lead to a Masters of Science and not
just an MBA.
'2.5.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:08:47 PM
I came to know from my university. I was actually looking for courses that were offered
online. I came to know from the office of registra that there are IEEE Eduction partners
courses available online and there was also some tuition rebate on it.
'2.5.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:49:08 AM
When I found the BSA certificate course, I saw the partnership program with IEEE. This
prompted me to renew my membership with IEEE.
'3.1
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
What do you consider to be “continuing education?”
Why did you decide to pursue some continuing education at the time you found IEEE
Education Partners?
For example, are you interested in pursuing an advanced degree? Did you need to learn a
particular skill for your job? Were you simply interested in the topic? Or something else?
'3.1.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:51:57 PM
Continuing education is anything. It can be a one day class, a seminar or a degree
program.
I actually decided to pursue my graduate degree before I found the IEEE program. I
always had intended to get that degree, but took a few years off after starting work. I did
it for myself. Work didn't seem to care either way but the degree in Software Engineering
has been invaluable at work since.
'3.1.2 David 5/18/2008 2:31:17 PM
Masters and Doctoral work in ones chosen profession. Industry recognized certifications.
Was going to do it anyway. This aided on the positive side the decision to do it.
For my own professional development within my job and outside of it also.
'3.1.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:32:14 PM
Now i am graduate on may 22 2008. so i am no more member of IEEE as student. but i
will join this program as member. because it give so many information about the latest
technology and research papers. so i just want to job so i will know about particular skill
then i decided to take ieee program about that.
'3.1.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:18:54 PM
I think continuing education is any formal classes or trainning you take to increase your
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knowledge.
I decided to continue my education because I figured it would help me find a job and there
were discounts both from IEEE and my employer.
'3.1.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:25:47 PM
I consider any course to be 'continuing education'.
I wanted to learn more about Business Analysis because I was thinking about changing
jobs.
'3.1.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:15:08 PM
I consider continuing education to be any class/seminar/workshop beyond a basic level of
training or qualification that one pursues to advance his or her knowledge or skill set in a
particular area. I was already interested in pursuing an advanced degree when I found the
IEEE education program, and given the programs that were offered, it made sense for me
to take advantage.
'3.1.7 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:26:34 PM
I'd say additional education after completion of a formal degree to maintain one's skills is
"continuing education". I generally don't consider pursuit of a new degree as "continuing"
education.
I was already pursuing another degree when I found the IEEE program. My decision to
pursue the Masters in EGMT degree was to help me transition into management. At the
time I was in a staff engineering position.
'3.1.8 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:21:46 PM
I consider a college degree to be a given these days, so I interpret "continuing education"
as going a step further an obtaining a graduate degree.
I had always been interested in explanding my knowledge base as I had interests in
various areas, therefore, I decided to pursue a Master's degree. I was intrigued by the
new possibilities that would be presented to me.
'3.1.9 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:21:05 PM
Continuing education consists of training either through classes, workshops or seminars to
continue expanding one's knowledge within their field.
I wanted to understand the fundamentals of system engineering for my job position. I
graduated with a B.S electrical engineering degree therefore did not have full
understanding of system engineering.
'3.1.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 8:59:25 AM
I don't want to continue my eduction after completing my Masters, but if I need to
continue for the future job. Then, I should.
'3.1.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:18:47 PM
I wanted to pursue an advanced degree because I want to advance my career. Many
other coworkers are also getting masters degrees, so in order to keep pace with their
education I am also getting a masters. I hope that it will have a positive impact on my
resume.
'3.1.11.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:17:41 AM
What kind of things do you consider "continuing education?"
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'3.1.11.1.1
Jeff
5/23/2008 6:52:38 AM
I consider "continuing education" the pursuit of an advanced degree. I am currently
pursuing a Masters of Science in Engineering Management.
'3.1.12
Robert 5/20/2008 12:51:43 PM
Continuing education is anything that you take to either change jobs or to further your
career at you current job. I decided to pursue another advance degree because I felt with
the job market being soft that I wanted to stay current and not be obsolete.
'3.1.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:10:52 PM
Actually i m interested in doing PHD.
'3.1.13.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 9:18:09 AM
What kind of things do you consider "continuing education?"
'3.1.13.1.1
Kunal 5/21/2008 5:38:03 PM
Things that can enhance and increase my career opportunities are considered continuing
education for me
'3.1.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:49:59 AM
I wanted to enhance my knowledge and skills regarding the topic.
'3.1.14.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 12:34:48 PM
What do you consider to be "continuing education?"
'3.1.14.1.1
Barbara
5/23/2008 12:04:56 PM
courses taken after degree earned or to enhance professional skills.
'3.2
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
When you decided to pursue a class, what were the criteria you were looking for? A
particular class topic? An experience with a particular instructor or school? Something else?
'3.2.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:53:14 PM
In this case, the program was mostly guided by requirments. There was must choice in
my degree program. I certainly did learn toward certain instructors that I liked and
wanted to stay as close to the software engineering topics as that is my role at work.
(engineering, not development. we don't write the actual code. We design, architect and
manage)
'3.2.2 David 5/18/2008 2:32:30 PM
Have not actually choosen a class yet. Working through the required courses for a MSSE.
'3.2.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:34:32 PM
At this time i am not decided to take class. But After 2-3 yrs of taking Experiece in
company i will decide to take particular subject which enhances my carrer.
'3.2.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:19:56 PM
I was looking for an a way to get my masters in computer science through online classes.
'3.2.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:27:50 PM
I needed the class to be 'Online Learning', a course that would provide a certificate upon
completion and wasn't too expensive.
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'3.2.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:18:10 PM
I am interested (and work) in the field of electric power engineering, so this was the area I
wanted to pursue graduate work in. I was looking for a school that has a good reputation
for research and instruction in that area. Additionally, I was looking for a program where I
could work full time and still benefit from the course work.
'3.2.7 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:27:45 PM
There are manadatory classes and electives in the Drexel EGMT program. So far, I have
only taken one elective, and all the others have been required.
'3.2.8 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:24:04 PM
I would say first and foremost, it was the nature of the course and what it was about.
Second, I'd have to consider the instructor and any personal experience I might have had
with him/her. Also, another consideration would be the nature of the meeting - online or
in person and the day and time it were to take place.
'3.2.9 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:23:29 PM
I was looking for a class that was interesting and in parallel with my line of work. The
classes I was most interested in were related to system engineering life-cycle such as
concept development, design, integration, and verification &validation.
'3.2.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:01:26 AM
I am looking to get some more knowledge on wireless networking and its communications.
'3.2.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:19:42 PM
I was looking for a management type course. I did not want a technical course.
'3.2.12
Robert 5/20/2008 12:53:02 PM
I was looking for a class that is on my study plan. I do know that some instructors are bad
so I ignore those classes. I have experience with Stevens so I felt that I knew that I would
get quality education if I worked at it.
'3.2.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:11:35 PM
I was looking for a particular topic
'3.2.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:51:24 AM
A particular topic and eLearning option.
'3.3
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
What other education providers did you consider or do you usually consider?
'3.3.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:54:41 PM
We have education partners at work that offer discounts to the company for a variety of
technical and non-technical classes. I have taken some of those over the years.
Unfortunately, the financial situation has severely limited training opportunities. I have
also taken a programming class offered by the North Jersey section that was very cheap
and quite good.
'3.3.2 David 5/18/2008 5:30:26 PM
Microsoft
'3.3.2.1
Robin - Moderator
Why microsoft?
5/21/2008 11:04:17 AM
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'3.3.2.1.1 David 5/21/2008 7:11:06 PM
I work with microsoft products almost exclusively at work. I do quick information finding
on msdn.com and considered going for their certifications in the past.
'3.3.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:35:51 PM
i do not know any other about education prpviders. but if i find out in IT field, i will
definitely took course of that field.
'3.3.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:20:38 PM
I did not consider any other providers.
'3.3.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:28:51 PM
The Learning Tree
University of Alberta
'3.3.5.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:04:39 AM
Why did you consider the Learning Tree?
'3.3.5.1.1 Shylah 5/21/2008 8:29:15 PM
I had previously taken a course with them and was very happy
'3.3.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:19:43 PM
I did not consider any of the other education partners available to me through the
program. I knew Drexel was the best program for me.
'3.3.7 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:28:36 PM
I looked at the University of Vermont and Norwich as they are both fairly local. I also
looked at the Stanford program.
'3.3.8 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:25:20 PM
My company organizes 1-day seminars on various topics that I find very useful. At the
same time, training is offered to team members specifically tailored to their area of
expertise and needs.
'3.3.9 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:23:59 PM
I have not considered any other education providers
'3.3.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:02:15 AM
Online articles such as CIO, IEEE, etc.
'3.3.10.1 Hardik 5/20/2008 9:02:40 AM
And more often Google search
'3.3.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:20:26 PM
I looked at all the other local universities.
'3.3.12
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:20:26 PM
I looked at all the other local universities.
'3.3.13
Robert 5/20/2008 12:54:06 PM
I only consider the classes that are offered in the mailings. I work like to take week
classes and take a week off from work [i.e. vacation] and do it in the day time.
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'3.3.14
None
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:11:51 PM
'3.3.15
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:52:09 AM
AMA, Learning Tree International.
'3.3.15.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:05:53 AM
I know a lot of AMAs. Which one?
And why the Learning Tree?
'3.3.15.1.1
Barbara
5/23/2008 12:05:55 PM
American Management Association.
I've previously taken courses through Learning Tree and had very good experiences.
'3.4
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
The IEEE Education Partners program has both traditional universities and colleges as well
as for-profit corporations. Tell me what you think about the quality of education that each of
these types of education providers offers. If you took a course through an academic
institution, did you consider a for-profit corporation? And visa versa. If you took a course
through one of the for-profit corporations, did you consider a college or university?
'3.4.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:56:23 PM
For a degree program, my only experience was with a traditional unversity and was
excellent. I know people that have completed programs at for profit institutions and they
have had good things to say. I did not consider them when making my choices. Even
thought the education may be excellent, the for profits have a certain stigma associated
with them.
'3.4.1.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:06:39 AM
What is the image of for-profit education providers? Can you explain the stigma?
'3.4.1.1.1 Michael
5/21/2008 6:18:00 PM
I know for fact that some managers at my company see a person with a graduate
degree from University of Phoenix (or similiar) and will discount it. Where I work is a
very academic setting. Some managers respect a degree from a traditional institution
much more than a non-traditional.
'3.4.2 David 5/18/2008 5:32:42 PM
No I did not consider a for profit corp. I am only interested in an advanced degree at this
time.
'3.4.2.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:07:15 AM
What is your impression/opinion about for-profit education providers?
'3.4.2.1.1 David 5/21/2008 7:12:57 PM
I'm sure there are good and bad ones. I have nothing against them but I want to teach
someday and I know I need at least a masters degree from an acredited university.
'3.4.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:40:12 PM
I took Courses in Stevens Inst of Tech. but as per my opinion If IEEE has this kind of
education providers it has some criteria to choose the this kind of education providers. so i
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am not worry about both traditional universities and colleges as well as for-profit
corporations.
'3.4.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:21:40 PM
I only took courses through an academic institution and did not consider any other places.
'3.4.4.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:07:35 AM
What is your impression/opinion about for-profit education providers?
'3.4.4.1.1 Fred F. 5/21/2008 8:51:25 PM
I have gone to a few as test centers for a few of the computer certifications and they
seem the same as classrooms and although I have not taking classes there I would
consider it.
'3.4.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:32:01 PM
I think the quality of education from both types of institutions are similar. I would rather a
well know name attached to my course but,only for profit corps were offering it.
'3.4.6 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:29:58 PM
I did look at the University of Phoenix online masters programs, but I didn't feel that the
quality would be equivalent to the Drexel program. I haven't taken courses at both forprofit and non-profit institutions to actually compare quality.
'3.4.6.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:08:00 AM
What is your impression/opinion about for-profit education providers?
'3.4.6.1.1 Fred L. 5/21/2008 7:35:58 PM
My impression is they are not as reputable, and that a degree or certificate from a well
known school looks better on your resume.
'3.4.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:32:40 PM
I took all of my courses at a private college and I wasn't even aware of the availability of
the program at for-profit entities. This question is a bit backwards for me - I didn't find
the program first and then started looking for a place to take advantage of it but vice
versa, I had already found a school and subsequently found out about the availability of
this program.
In terms of quality of education, I'd have to say that I was frankly a bit disappointed about
the way online courses were conducted. My school wanted to expand its reach to students
all over the world that started offering courses that are just not suitable to be taught
online - I ended up being disadvantaged by taking such courses and would have preferred
to have been able to take them on campus.
'3.4.7.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:08:33 AM
What is your impression/opinion about for-profit education providers?
'3.4.7.1.1 Plamen
5/23/2008 2:18:53 PM
I think that for-profits are more focused and better prepared - I've attended a few 1-day
seminars at work and I found to be very useful, so I think that for-profits are better
providers than non-profits.
'3.4.8 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:26:09 PM
I have not taken classes in both types of institutions. I have taken classes in an academic
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institution and I think the type of education is great.
'3.4.8.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:08:43 AM
What is your impression/opinion about for-profit education providers?
'3.4.8.1.1 Jessica 5/23/2008 9:12:11 AM
I am a little skeptical of for-profit education providers because of reading articles about
these type of organizations offering courses only to cancel them and not refund money
or there are scams. Organizations such as University of Pheonix that have been around
for a long time seem more legitimate. It seems like they are focused on getting the
information continuation education attendees need for their job.
'3.4.9 Hardik 5/20/2008 9:12:14 AM
I think traditional universities are providing more quality of education than for-profit
organization. I am talking about only well reputed universities here which are well known
for their teaching, providing enough facilities such as dorms, library etc., and offering big
opportunities when they are out of these colleges or universities.
'3.4.10
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:22:44 PM
I did not consider a for-profit corporation. I prefer traditional academic institutions.
'3.4.10.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:09:00 AM
What is your impression/opinion about for-profit education providers?
'3.4.10.1.1
Jeff
5/23/2008 6:55:28 AM
I feel for-profit providers are always looking at the bottom line to make the investors
happy. All institutions have budgets, but I worry about the long term capital upgrades
with a for-profit provider. My school has a large sum of money they keep to upgrade
buildings and educational infrastructure. I don't think a for-profit provider has that
money.
'3.4.11
Robert 5/20/2008 12:56:36 PM
I considered all private university's as for profit. I feel that a college/university has more
weight to it then a for-profit corporation.
A for-profit corporation to me can be hit or miss. I would rather go with a university that
is accredited.
'3.4.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:13:27 PM
Quality of education was good. I took a course through an academic institution and i would
consider a for-profit corporation
'3.4.12.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:09:19 AM
What is your impression/opinion about for-profit education providers?
'3.4.12.1.1
Kunal 5/21/2008 5:47:15 PM
I think for-profit education providers are more focused on the course content.
'3.4.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:55:10 AM
I don't have the time to attend tradition college/university courses.
I beleive that the quality of education from any course is highly dependent on the
individual taking the course and their committment to learning.
'3.4.14
Jonathan
5/24/2008 5:31:36 PM
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I apparently missed this question the first time through. I was looking for an academic
institution in particular, although I did check out the other programs as well. I have taken
courses from for-profit organizations before (not through IEEE) and find them to be a little
more practical, less book knowledge. I think I've benefited from both overall.
'3.5
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
Did the fact that the education partner was available through IEEE have anything to do with
your decision to take a course through the program?
Ultimately, how important was the IEEE “brand” in helping you decide to use the Education
Partners program? To what extent did you have the impression that by their inclusion in the
program that IEEE somehow endorsed them as education providers?
'3.5.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:57:25 PM
It did not. I didn't even know about the program when I applied for my degree. The IEEE
name does lend a certain bonus to a program, but what I had applied to was already an
excellent program. It didn't need IEEE to get me to go.
'3.5.2 David 5/18/2008 5:33:43 PM
Yes the discount had an influence, but not sure if the IEEE brand made much of a
difference.
'3.5.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:44:24 PM
No. IEEE have not anything to do with My decision to take a course through the program.
SO i dont know baout IEEE brand affects me to decide the education partners program;
'3.5.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:22:59 PM
Since I first found out about the IEEE education program through the univserity the IEEE
brand did not affect my decision.
'3.5.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:35:35 PM
I felt that if the IEEE indorsed Inquestra Learning, I would be provided a good course - the
IEEE endorsement was really a huge reason why I choose that education provider.
'3.5.5.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:11:15 AM
Were you aware of/familiar with Inquestra before seeing it was part of the Education
Partners program? If so, what was your impression BEFORE seeing it was part of the
program?
'3.5.5.1.1 Shylah 5/21/2008 8:30:12 PM
No - I have never heard of them
'3.5.6 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:31:23 PM
Since I had already started the program before learning of the IEEE program, I can't say
the IEEE brand had anything to do with my choice. I was pleased to find that Drexel was
part of the program, however.
'3.5.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:37:44 PM
The availability of the education partnership greatly influenced my decision when selecting
a course to take during a particular term. Ultimaltely, of course, it always comes down to
scheduling at available times for me.
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I went to a technical school - Stevens Institute of Technology, so most of the programs
offered would be more or less endorsed by IEEE, so I was not at all surprised that they did
so. I can't say that the IEEE was crucial to my decision making process or that provided
for an extra layer of confidence though. I trusted my prior experiences at the institution.
'3.5.7.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:12:11 AM
What about the other schools in the program? Do you think any differently of the ones
you were familiar with because they are part of the program?
'3.5.7.1.1 Plamen
5/23/2008 2:30:41 PM
I can't really say I'm familiar with the other participants in the program, so I can't
comment on whether my opinion had changed - if anything, their participation in the
program would have worked in their favor.
'3.5.8 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:27:24 PM
No it did not factor into my decisions to take a course. It was an added bonus. Whether
IEEE was an education partner or not would not have influenced my decision to take
classes.
'3.5.9 Hardik 5/20/2008 9:15:43 AM
I think a student is more responsible to decide what he or she wants to be in future and
according to that, he or she plans while he studies. So the education partner can provide
right directions to perspective students and from that, students have to decide what they
want to do within this institution.
'3.5.9.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:13:24 AM
Ultimately, how important was the IEEE “brand” in helping you decide to use the
Education Partners program? To what extent did you have the impression that by their
inclusion in the program that IEEE somehow endorsed them as education providers?
'3.5.9.1.1 Hardik 5/22/2008 2:48:48 PM
It is very important because of IEEE's external and internal activities to provide a large
amount of knowledge to their members.
'3.5.10
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:23:31 PM
Receiving the IEEE discount was a helpful consideration. Otherwise, this was the program
I had chosen and wanted to go with.
'3.5.10.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:13:43 AM
To what extent did you have the impression that by their inclusion in the program that
IEEE somehow endorsed them as education providers?
'3.5.10.1.1
Jeff
5/23/2008 6:57:34 AM
I felt IEEE and Drexel may have had a joint venture for engineering. Maybe that IEEE
had provided grants, etc to Drexel. To a moderate extent I think they endorsed Drexel.
'3.5.11
Robert 5/20/2008 12:59:14 PM
It was not important because if I didn't say this before I fell into the partnership. In other
words I started to take classes and then found out it was a IEEE partner. I then took the
online classes to get the 10% IEEE discount to save money. The online classes are good if
the student is willing to put the time into it. A good textbook is needed for online classes
to work. The online classes have to be well organized.
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'3.5.11.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:14:07 AM
To what extent did you have the impression that by their inclusion in the program that
IEEE somehow endorsed them as education providers?
'3.5.11.1.1
Robert 5/21/2008 11:15:52 PM
I never thought of this, but I would figure 100%.
'3.5.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:14:07 PM
It was very important as I was more confident with IEEE brand name attached to it.
'3.5.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:58:17 AM
The IEEE affiliation was the clincher for me taking the courses.
The IEEE "brand" is very important to me in helping tod decide to use the program. And
yes, I assumed IEEE endorsed the ed provider.
'3.5.14
Jonathan
5/24/2008 5:33:27 PM
Since the IEEE is THE professional society for my field, it was nice to see the program I
chose was endorsed by the IEEE. In the end, the 10% discount was probably more
important, I the IEEE name carries a lot of weight for me.
'3.6
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
Did you have any difficulty finding the IEEE Education Partners website?
'3.6.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:57:50 PM
I found it by luck all those years ago. Today, a simple good search brought me to the site.
'3.6.2 David 5/18/2008 5:33:58 PM
No.
'3.6.2.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:15:09 AM
And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
'3.6.2.1.1 David 5/21/2008 7:13:58 PM
This first time I visited it was through this questionare. I didn't even know it existed.
'3.6.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:45:00 PM
No at all. It is available on IEEE site.
'3.6.3.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:15:18 AM
And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
'3.6.3.1.1 Ankur 5/23/2008 7:42:17 PM
As per I told you that i am member IEEE.so We organize some function in india. Also
Give new information about the IEEE. So my professor tole me about that about ieee
education information.
'3.6.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:23:19 PM
No I found the link right from the IEEE homepage.
'3.6.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:35:59 PM
No
'3.6.5.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:15:26 AM
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And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
'3.6.5.1.1 Shylah 5/21/2008 8:30:42 PM
from the IEEE homepage
'3.6.6 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:31:47 PM
No.
'3.6.6.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:15:37 AM
And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
'3.6.6.1.1 Fred L. 5/21/2008 7:39:38 PM
I think there was a link in the advertisement. At the time I was basically looking for
what to do to get the 10% discount. The site gave me the name and number of
someone at the IEEE to contact. Otherwise, I don't think I spent much time browsing it.
'3.6.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:38:09 PM
No, there was a link provided on my school's website.
'3.6.8 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:34:26 PM
No it was not difficult to find the IEEE Education Partners website
'3.6.8.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:16:01 AM
And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
'3.6.8.1.1 Jessica 5/23/2008 9:14:24 AM
When I went to IEEE to become a member I typed in the search area education
providers and it directed me to the website.
'3.6.9 Hardik 5/20/2008 9:16:05 AM
No so far.
'3.6.9.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:15:47 AM
And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
'3.6.9.1.1 Hardik 5/22/2008 2:49:39 PM
My one of the friends told me about it and searched for it.
'3.6.10
No.
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:23:41 PM
'3.6.10.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:15:53 AM
And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
'3.6.10.1.1
Jeff
5/23/2008 6:58:20 AM
I do not recall. It may have been through Drexel's website or through an IEEE email. I
believe it was an IEEE email.
'3.6.11
No
Robert 5/20/2008 1:01:18 PM
'3.6.11.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:16:07 AM
And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
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'3.6.11.1.1
Robert 5/21/2008 11:16:30 PM
I did a google search. Is not that how you find everything these days?
'3.6.12
No
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:14:28 PM
'3.6.12.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:16:16 AM
And how did you find the website? Do you recall?
'3.6.12.1.1
Kunal 5/21/2008 5:48:20 PM
When i signed up for the first time I got email from my university about the website
'3.6.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:58:47 AM
I have not yet visited the site.
'3.6.14
Jonathan
5/24/2008 5:33:54 PM
A little bit. It is tough to find from the main IEEE homepage.
'3.7
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
When you heard about the IEEE Education Partners Program, did you “shop around” the
website to see what the different education providers offered? Or did you go directly to one
education provider?
'3.7.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:58:48 PM
I did look around but since I was already in a program I didn't spend too much time. If I
was to take another program, I would certainly lookat them all.
'3.7.2 David 5/18/2008 5:34:22 PM
Directly to the one I knew I wanted.
'3.7.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:45:43 PM
From My college, Stevens Inst of Tech.
'3.7.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:23:58 PM
Since I was already committed to a university when I found out about it I did not shop
around.
'3.7.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:37:31 PM
I went to a of the providers websites, but I went to The Learning Tree's site first
'3.7.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:20:46 PM
I did look at some of the other programs listed, but I knew Drexel was the best fit for what
I was looking for.
'3.7.7 Fred L. 5/19/2008 3:32:25 PM
In my case, I had already made my choice of the provider.
'3.7.8 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:39:00 PM
I went to the one provider that was pertinent to me - this was adressed during a previous
question. I selected the provider first and then found out about the program itself.
'3.7.9 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:39:32 PM
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No I did not. I was set on which school I wanted to attend and then became interested in
the IEEE Education Partners Program
'3.7.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:19:11 AM
I heard about this program from IEEE email. I didn't shop around yet to see what they
offer.
'3.7.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:26:00 PM
I went to the one education provider. I wanted a school that was close, even though the
courses are online. It allowed me to be closer to the campus and bookstore if I need those
resources.
'3.7.12
Robert 5/20/2008 1:01:39 PM
I went to one provider, Stevens.
'3.7.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:14:59 PM
I didnt shop around.
'3.7.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 9:59:22 AM
I went directly to one provider.
'3.8
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
Tell me what your thinking was when you visited the website.
(By the way, you can see that website at:
http://www.ieee.org/web/education/partners/eduPartners.html or by clicking in the link in
the whiteboard above.
'3.8.1 Michael
5/18/2008 1:59:32 PM
Nicely designed. All the information is right there. It doesn't leave you with any
questions.
'3.8.1.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:18:54 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
'3.8.1.1.1 Michael
5/21/2008 6:29:03 PM
That isn't surprising. At work I will think something is easy and intuitive but most
others can't figure them out. My opinions on application design don't seem to be
mainstream.
The biggest flaw in the page is the length of the page. It's a long scroll down to the
bottom. The provider information should probably be not presented at once. Instead,
some click would bring up a specific provider.
The next layout at the top can be a little hard on the eyes. Too many font sizes, colors,
italics, bolds, etc.
Also, the text section appears to be designed for 1024x768 screen resolution while the
provider data is designed for 800x600. In today's world, I think a build for 1024x768 is
safe, especially for the IEEE's technical audience. That may allow the provider
information to be presented more horizontally.
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'3.8.2 David 5/18/2008 5:35:43 PM
I didn't visit the website until now. Seems well layed out and informative.
'3.8.2.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:19:02 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
'3.8.2.1.1 David 5/21/2008 7:17:33 PM
Not really. Its seems to fit in with the rest of the website OK. The whole website could
stand a new user interface with a more up to date presentation.
'3.8.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:49:30 PM
Already i visited this website, so all this company will provide the online graduate
programs of different major. and they will help you to choose the program in which you
are interested after visiting this colleges and education partners.
'3.8.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:26:21 PM
I think the website is well organized and has all the information you would need to make
the important decision of how to continue your education.
'3.8.4.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:19:14 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
'3.8.4.1.1 Fred F. 5/21/2008 8:52:27 PM
I would make it easier to log in which is what I do the most often on the IEEE website.
'3.8.4.1.1.1
Fred F. 5/21/2008 8:53:16 PM
Then by logging in you could get classes that relate to the areas your are intrested in
and in your area.
'3.8.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:40:26 PM
I liked the layout and I liked the many options I was provided
'3.8.5.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:19:21 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
'3.8.5.1.1 Shylah 5/21/2008 8:32:06 PM
I think they could add more pages/links so that it doesn't feel so "busy"
'3.8.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:24:16 PM
I was impressed with the list of available programs, and particulary pleased to find such a
good fit for what I was looking for.
'3.8.6.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:19:33 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
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'3.8.6.1.1 Jonathan
5/24/2008 5:34:57 PM
I mentioned this in other posts, but I am not a huge fan of the logos for each program.
It looks kind of blocky, and takes up too much space on the page for each course. I'd
prefer more of a list format.
'3.8.7 Fred L. 5/19/2008 7:37:52 PM
I had not visited the website until recently. I was surprised at the number of different
universities that are part of the program. I was a little disappointed that there was not
more detailed information about the Expert Now offerings.
'3.8.8 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:41:37 PM
I think the website is a bit disorganized and cluttered. A better design would have been to
have a list of insitutions appearing on top linked to a detailed section found below.
'3.8.9 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:40:44 PM
There is a lot of useful information. There are not many schools participating.
'3.8.9.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:19:50 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
'3.8.9.1.1 Jessica 5/23/2008 9:19:18 AM
The reason I wasn't critical was because the website is simple. Sometimes when there is
too much going on it gets confusing. I think the right links are posted in the right
location. I went back to the website and honestly can't think of making it better other
than for the school links, have a link that accesses the IEEE area within the school
instead of having to search for it in the school's website.
'3.8.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:22:46 AM
This is very good for students like me who are taking online courses and save some money
though this program. Also, they get a lot of knowledge through this membership such as
from IEEE magazines, articles, and emails.
'3.8.10.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:19:58 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
'3.8.10.1.1
Hardik 5/22/2008 2:54:55 PM
I would say to include some colleges and institutions who offer some important
(valuable for their current jobs) online courses to encourage students to continue their
studies in future.
'3.8.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:27:21 PM
The page could be presented better. I think it should not be so long. Have a different link
for corporate partners and acadmic partners.
'3.8.12
Robert 5/20/2008 1:19:16 PM
I notice that you have a lot of different universities and for profit corporations. The
universities such as Drexel and Stevens seem to be very good. The web page does not
look organized. It seems like it was put together a little hap-hazard.
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'3.8.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:16:04 PM
It is more informative.
'3.8.13.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:20:13 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
'3.8.13.1.1
Kunal 5/21/2008 5:51:54 PM
Well according to me i found all the things that was looking for. May be putting little less
things on main page can be a good suggestion.
'3.8.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:02:32 AM
Now that I've looked at the website... I see there's quite a lot offered. I will look at the
various ed providers in more detail very soon.
'3.8.14.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:20:21 AM
It's interesting you should say this. Some of the other people I have interviewed were
critical of the website's design and organization. Do you have any suggestions to improve
it?
'3.8.14.1.1
Barbara
5/23/2008 12:14:06 PM
Not the prettiest page. Perhaps a single column table with one provider in each.
The information provided for each provider in not consistent. Ie. whether or not
certifications/degrees/CE credits, e-learning, etc.
'3.9
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
How well did the website do at providing you with information you needed to help you
evaluate the institution and the course you were interested in?
'3.9.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:01:15 PM
Since I didn't use the web site to make that decision, I will pretend to now. The goal of
the program is clear. The information about the providers is somewhat limited marketing
material. Might be nice to have a <more> link that would give more information provided
by IEEE instead of going to the providers page. I'm not suggeesting replicating
information, but there may be points specific to the needs of IEEE members.
'3.9.2 David 5/18/2008 5:36:01 PM
N/A
'3.9.3 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:53:02 PM
As i already told you that IEEE have some criteria to choose this education programs in
that they will decide the evalution of the college and courses. and its upto the student in
which course and institution he/she want to join.
'3.9.4 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:27:30 PM
I did not use the website sinc eI found out about it after I had already picked an instiution
and a degree program but I would use it in the future if I wanted to take my education
farther.
'3.9.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:41:36 PM
The website it great. I just clicked on the providers icon and was taken to their site.
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'3.9.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:26:17 PM
The website did a good job at providing a synopsis of what was available, but it was helpful
to go to the individual websites in order to get a better feel for the details of each
program. I don't think anyone could make a decision based on the website information
alone, since the real details on each program are better laid out on each individual site
(like they should be).
'3.9.7 Fred L. 5/19/2008 7:39:16 PM
I did not use the website for this purpose.
'3.9.8 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:42:54 PM
The website contains barely any useful information about the institutions included - it
provides a very general overview.
'3.9.9 Jessica 5/19/2008 9:41:53 PM
The website provided good information to help me evaluate the institution. It is great it
redirects the person to the school's website
'3.9.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:25:18 AM
It is really helps students to select right courses and institutions through this website.
'3.9.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:28:12 PM
I knew I was going to Drexel, so not much. There is useful information on the site. I wish
I had seen it early, before doing my up-front research.
'3.9.12
Robert 5/20/2008 1:22:28 PM
It does a good job, but you have to really dig deep on the web pages to find the
information.
'3.9.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:17:13 PM
It did very well, I had all the information i need for the course
'3.9.14
Very well.
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:05:12 AM
'3.10 Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
What information did you want or need that wasn’t provided on the website?
'3.10.1
Michael
5/18/2008 2:02:01 PM
Could use some more detail. For example, IEEE members generally work full time in a lot
of cases. How the program works with part timers would be helpful.
'3.10.2
N/A
David 5/18/2008 5:36:18 PM
'3.10.3
Ankur 5/18/2008 7:53:56 PM
i never thought about this question.
'3.10.3.1 Ankur 5/18/2008 7:55:04 PM
but still i want to prefer the ranking of instituion is provided. it is good for student
'3.10.4
Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:28:26 PM
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I think the website had all the information you would need to pick an instiution and a
program.
'3.10.5
Shylah 5/19/2008 12:42:23 PM
All the information I needed was provided to me on the IEEE's site
'3.10.6
Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:29:18 PM
I was happy with the amount of information provided on the website. I think too much
more would have made it difficult to filter out the benefits of the IEEE program from the
details of each individual opportunity.
'3.10.7
Plamen
5/19/2008 7:44:16 PM
I would have liked to see at least a list of programs offered instead of providing numbers
only.
'3.10.8
Fred L. 5/19/2008 7:45:06 PM
After a little poking around, I was able to find everything I was interested in.
'3.10.9
Jessica 5/19/2008 9:44:20 PM
Just a link within the school's advertised on where to find the IEEE sign up within the
school's website.
'3.10.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:30:00 AM
I didn't see anything that i couldn't find it through this website yet.
'3.10.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:30:23 PM
None, the information links you directly to the colleges, which is the best way to get the
information.
'3.10.12
Robert 5/20/2008 1:22:50 PM
None that I know of.
'3.10.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:17:39 PM
I think from my point of view everything was there.
'3.10.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:05:52 AM
Just enough info provided to send me in the right direction.
'3.11 Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
Were there education providers you hoped were participating in the program that you didn’t
see there? Which ones?
'3.11.15
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:23:05 AM
Okay, another question: What institutions do you think SHOULD be there?
'3.11.15.1 David 5/21/2008 7:19:22 PM
Well, if you want to aim high, MIT and Carnegie Mellon.
'3.11.15.2 Shylah 5/21/2008 8:33:09 PM
ASQ - American society for Quality
'3.11.15.3 Fred F. 5/21/2008 8:54:31 PM
Being from NJ I would like to see more NJ universities like Seaton Hall or Rutgers.
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'3.11.15.4 Hardik 5/22/2008 2:59:19 PM
I meant that I was very decided about choosing college for this program. And both were
there, so i didn't hope for any other college. Both colleges are Drexel and Stevens.
'3.11.15.5 Jeff
5/23/2008 6:59:11 AM
I think Rowan University should be included.
'3.11.15.6 Jessica 5/23/2008 9:23:46 AM
I'm going by what universities are in South Jersey/ Pennsylvania area
1) Villanova
2) Rowan
3) Rutgers
4) Lehigh
'3.11.15.7 Barbara
5/23/2008 12:25:51 PM
Would have expected to see the American Manangement Association.
Techies need soft skills too!
'3.11.15.8 Plamen
5/23/2008 2:34:12 PM
I think that more popular institutions should be included - the ones in my area are New
York University or Columbia University. I think if more prestigious schools like that are a
part of the program, it would really attract more participants.
'3.11.15.9 Ankur 5/23/2008 7:44:07 PM
All major institure who are ranked high and all electrical organiztion which is IEEE
members.
So they can give new techonology information
'3.11.15.10 Jonathan
5/24/2008 5:37:49 PM
I think a broader array of academic institutions would be nice, since geographically you
are limited to the schools in your area if you want traditional on-campus instruction
versus online. I know various IEEE local sections run training courses
sometimes...perhaps those could be included as well.
'3.11.1
Michael
There were not.
5/18/2008 2:02:18 PM
'3.11.1.1 Michael
5/21/2008 6:30:32 PM
I'm not certain I can name any specifically. Of course, any partners IEEE can sign up are
excellent, but I cannot name any that I would be looking for.
'3.11.2
N/A
David 5/18/2008 5:36:35 PM
'3.11.3
Ankur 5/18/2008 7:55:46 PM
i dont know
'3.11.4
Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:30:55 PM
I can not think of any although more universities would not be a bad idea so that you
could find one near you to take traditional classes.
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'3.11.5
Shylah 5/19/2008 12:44:15 PM
University of Alberta
Quality Assurance Institute
American Society of Quality
'3.11.6
Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:37:10 PM
As I have already mentioned, I was very happy to see Drexel listed, as it was a great fit
for what I was looking for. That said, more partners would always be better. I am too
busy now to take advantage of any more programs but in the future I might, and the
greater the variety of partners the better.
'3.11.7
Plamen
5/19/2008 7:45:01 PM
No, again a repeat of a previous question - identified a provider first and then found out
about the program.
'3.11.8
Fred L. 5/19/2008 7:56:01 PM
Some of the better known tech schools are missing (MIT, Stanford), but I wasn't surprised
at this.
'3.11.9
Jessica 5/19/2008 9:45:08 PM
Rutgers would have been a great school to include
'3.11.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:31:02 AM
Not find anyone like this.
'3.11.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:30:56 PM
Rowan University in Glassboro, NJ
'3.11.12
Robert 5/20/2008 1:23:23 PM
Not really. I liked the fact that you have Drexel and Stevens. I feel those are two very
good colleges.
'3.11.12.1 Robert 5/21/2008 11:19:18 PM
There were no education providers that I hoped were participating that was not in the
program. I am sorry if my answer was vague.
'3.11.13
No
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:17:57 PM
'3.11.14
no
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:06:31 AM
'3.12 Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
Were there courses you hoped to take that weren’t offered through the IEEE Education
Partners program? What courses?
'3.12.1
No
Michael
5/18/2008 2:02:29 PM
'3.12.2
David 5/18/2008 5:37:01 PM
No they were all offered.
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'3.12.3
Ankur 5/18/2008 7:56:27 PM
still i do not know
'3.12.4
Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:31:34 PM
There were no courses that I wanted to take that were not offered.
'3.12.5
Shylah 5/19/2008 12:46:57 PM
Yes. I am taking the CSTE - Certified Software Test Engineer course through QAI - Quality
Assurance Institute
I would have liked some on-line ITIL courses
'3.12.6
Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:39:03 PM
The program I am in has thsu far offered courses in everything I am looking for. Not
every course is offered every term, but I have always been able to find a course that fits
my interest.
'3.12.7
Plamen
5/19/2008 7:46:48 PM
Can't really identify any within my program - I wished a greater variety of courses within
my specialization area but that really has nothing to do with the Education Partners
program itself.
'3.12.8
Fred L. 5/19/2008 7:57:05 PM
Nothing missing. I was pretty impressed with the variety of the offerings across the
various schools.
'3.12.9
None
Jessica 5/19/2008 9:45:23 PM
'3.12.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:34:42 AM
I didn't see any.
'3.12.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:31:25 PM
No, I think all the necessary programs were covered for me.
'3.12.12
Robert 5/20/2008 1:23:42 PM
Not at this time.
'3.12.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:18:33 PM
Actually i was satisfied with the offerings.
'3.12.14
no
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:06:47 AM
'3.13 Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:08 PM
How likely would you have been to take this course if it had not been offered through the
IEEE Partner program? Would you have still taken this course with the same educational
institution?
I want to quantify the responses of all the people participating in these interviews on
decision criteria. To take the short survey now—and it’s only about 3 questions—please go
to http://wedewergroup.com/ieeenonparticipants.htm or click on the link in the whiteboard
above. Please complete the survey and make sure you click “submit” at the bottom to
register your responses.
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'3.13.1
Michael
5/18/2008 2:03:47 PM
I would of taken it regardless with that institution.
'3.13.2
Not likely.
David 5/18/2008 5:37:37 PM
'3.13.2.1 Robin - Moderator
Why is that, David?
5/21/2008 11:24:02 AM
'3.13.2.1.1
David 5/21/2008 7:21:48 PM
The discount is a big reason. And maybe the association with the IEEE as I am CSDP
through the IEEE Computer Society.
'3.13.3
Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:33:55 PM
Since I first found out about the program after I was registered for the courses and had
started woeking on my masters degree I would have taken the courses even if IEEE did
not offer them.
'3.13.4
Ankur 5/19/2008 7:51:11 AM
i am graduate now. but i took this course last 2 years.
it depends on course and fees, to which institute i will take program.
'3.13.4.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:41:49 AM
So if a course is offered through the IEEE Education Partners Program are you more likely
to take the class?
'3.13.4.1.1
Ankur 5/23/2008 7:45:46 PM
yes definitely. i will take course offered by ieee education partners.
'3.13.5
Ankur 5/19/2008 7:51:12 AM
(Deleted)
i am graduate now. but i took this course last 2 years.
it depends on course and fees, to which institute i will take program.
'3.13.6
Shylah 5/19/2008 12:49:39 PM
I am currently taking this course.
'3.13.6.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:42:32 AM
But how likely would you have been to take the course if it weren't offered in the
program?
'3.13.6.1.1
Shylah 5/21/2008 8:35:14 PM
It is NOT offered as part of the program ; and I'm taking it
'3.13.7
Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:42:22 PM
I would have considered taking courses from the same institution even if it were not
offered through the IEEE program. As I stated before, I was very happy to see Drexel
listed, since it was a program I would have considered anyway. However, since it was
offered through the IEEE program, my decision was much easier.
'3.13.8
Fred L. 5/19/2008 7:59:32 PM
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Since I signed up for the Masters in Eng Mgt program at Drexel before I knew if was part
of the IEEE Partner program, I'd have to answer "100%" and "yes" to the two questions.
'3.13.9
Jessica 5/19/2008 9:46:18 PM
Yes I still would have taken the course.
'3.13.10
Hardik 5/20/2008 9:39:00 AM
Whatever courses I want to take that I have found on IEEE partner program and i have
taken.
'3.13.10.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:43:11 AM
How likely would you have been to take them if they weren't part of the program?
'3.13.10.1.1
Hardik 5/22/2008 3:01:18 PM
In my case, I have gotten all courses that I wanted to register. Also, I didn't see any
program for my major is not there.
'3.13.11
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:32:22 PM
Yes, I had decided on Drexel. I saw the partnership after the fact, but it helped make the
final decision. I was waivering between two institutions.
'3.13.11.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 11:43:32 AM
Was it the discount? The IEEE name?
'3.13.11.1.1
Jeff
5/23/2008 7:00:26 AM
The discount is 10% off tuition. To get the discount, I just have to write on the
application for admission that I am an IEEE member. I automatically get the discount.
'3.13.12
Robert 5/20/2008 1:28:30 PM
I would have still taken these courses. Yes will the same educational institution.
'3.13.13
Robert 5/20/2008 1:30:26 PM
I went to the web site and submitted by survey responses.
'3.13.14
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:20:34 PM
I think the IEEE brand name attached to the course actually made my decision easy. but i
could have took the course as long as it covers the material.
'3.13.15
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:10:20 AM
I would have investigated the other providers to see if they offered the courses I wanted.
If one did, within my budget and with an eLeraning option, I'd have enrolled w/ one of the
ed providers.
If courses I wanted had not been offered, yes I would have still taken this course.
'4.1
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:18 PM
Having completed a course through the IEEE Education Partners Program, how would you
rate these experiences:
--The information and support provided by IEEE Education Partners about how the program
works?
--The ease of registration through the IEEE Education Partners Program?
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--The quality of the course or courses?
'4.1.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:11:14 PM
My experience was fantasic. Stevens runs a great program for working people. I didn't
register through the IEEE page. I had to submit my membership card to Stevens to get
my discount mailed to me. I'm not sure I could register through IEEE that long ago. The
quality of excellent with the execption of one class that was taught very poorly but you will
get the occasionally bad assistant professor.
'4.1.2 David 5/18/2008 5:39:25 PM
N/A
Easy.
The courses for the most part are high quality.
'4.1.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:34:39 PM
I found the quality of the courses to be great and easy to register for.
'4.1.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 7:56:54 AM
i have no idea about the how program works in IEEE Education partners. but IEEE
membership is very useful to me. also It is very ease of registration which i liked most. it
gives much more information about the course also provide good material of course and
they give some more information about the new technology too.
'4.1.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:52:39 PM
1. The IEEE can improuve the information about EP
2. It was easy to register
3. I was very happy with the course
'4.1.5.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 12:19:20 PM
What suggestions do you have for improving the EP information?
'4.1.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:44:35 PM
All 3 were great. The information provided was clear, registration was very simple, and I
feel I have gotten a lot out of the courses I am taking.
'4.1.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:50:14 PM
The information and support were sufficient.
The registration process was a bit cumbersome - it could be improved.
The quality of the courses, in my opinion, depends on the professors themselves rathen
than anything else.
'4.1.7.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 12:20:03 PM
What was cumbersome about the registration? In what ways can it be improved?
'4.1.7.1.1 Plamen
5/23/2008 2:49:06 PM
Well, I completed the process 18 months ago, so I don't recall everything in details - I
recall having to fill out multiple pages, which I think was the most tedious part about it if you can have everything listed on 1 page, it would make the whole process a lot
easier, in my opinion.
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'4.1.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 8:09:19 PM
--The information and support provided by IEEE Education Partners about how the
program works? Neutral, I had to make a few calls to both the IEEE and the registrar at
Drexel to get the discount initially.
--The ease of registration through the IEEE Education Partners Program? I don't recall any
registration with the IEEE, just had to know a particular code word to provide Drexel. As I
said above, it wasn't very intuitive when I did it. Perhaps it's an improved process now.
--The quality of the course or courses? Course quality at Drexel is not very consistent and
it depends a lot on the Instructor. Often the materials are several years old with errors
and typos that haven't been corrected. They are constantly upgrading their WebCT and
content delivery methods. This generally results in an improved experience, but not
always. I don't get the impression that IEEE has ever audited any of these courses for
quality.
'4.1.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:33:10 PM
I have completed 4 courses and I am currently taking my 5th. It has been a great
experience. I enjoy the online courses.
'4.1.9.1
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 12:21:16 PM
--How would you rate the information and support provided by IEEE Education Partners
about how the program works?
--The ease of registration through the IEEE Education Partners Program?
'4.1.9.1.1 Jeff
5/23/2008 7:01:41 AM
I would rate the ease of registration as very easy. I signed up right through Drexel
when I completed my application.
I would rate the informatin and support provide as very good.
'4.1.10
Robert 5/20/2008 1:31:59 PM
1-OK
2-I registered directly with Stevens not through the Partnership program.
3-The quality of the courses are good if the class
A) Is well organized.
B) Has a good text book.
'4.1.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 3:05:12 PM
1) I didn't receive much information by the IEEE Education Partners about the program
2) Registration through IEEE Education Partners was easy
3) The courses were very useful and help with advancing ones knowledge in the subject
'4.1.12
Hardik 5/20/2008 3:13:10 PM
Actually, I am living in Philadelphia and studying in Hoboken, NJ. It is very helpful and
time saving to take classes online.
I would rate it as very convenient and useful, and would strongly recommondate.
'4.1.12.1 Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 12:22:01 PM
--How would you rate the information and support provided by IEEE Education Partners
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about how the program works?
--The ease of registration through the IEEE Education Partners Program?
'4.1.12.1.1
Hardik 5/22/2008 3:04:27 PM
Strongly recommendated to new and perspective students and members. Also, very
useful and beneficiary for money savers.
'4.1.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:21:33 PM
The information and support was good, it was very easy to register and quality was
excellent.
'4.1.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:11:18 AM
"very good" for all three questions.
'4.2
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:18 PM
How likely are you to recommend the IEEE Education Partners Program to others?
How likely are you to take another course through the IEEE Education Partners Program?
'4.2.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:12:01 PM
I absolutely would. I have recommend it to non-members who have joined for the
program savings.
If I was to take another program outside of work, I'd 100% go through IEEE.
'4.2.2 David 5/18/2008 5:39:55 PM
I would recomend it at the drop of a hat.
Very likely.
'4.2.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:35:34 PM
If I had the time to take more classes I would difenaty take them through the IEEE
program and I would recommend it to others.
'4.2.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 7:59:47 AM
i will fully recommend IEEE Education partners program to others like 9 point out of 10.
also i will not say right now but i will prefer to take the this program
graduate now.
because i am
'4.2.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:53:55 PM
I am likely to recommend the EP programs
I am very likely to take additional courses through EP
'4.2.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:45:39 PM
I have already told some colleagues to consider the IEEE program. I intend to finish my
degree through the program, and hope to take advantage of other courses in the future.
'4.2.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:52:01 PM
I would recommend the IEEE EP program for no other reason than to get 10% off the
tuition and fees one pays to take a course or courses.
I think after completing a Master's degree, I'm pretty much done with higher education but
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if the right opportunity presents itself, I'd be open to consider it.
'4.2.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 8:10:41 PM
Despite some of my complaints, I've recommended Drexel online programs to others, but
they weren't IEEE members. Had they been, I would have suggested they use the
Education Partners Program.
'4.2.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:33:42 PM
I have already recommended the program. I have even told others about the discounted
rate.
'4.2.10
Robert 5/20/2008 1:32:29 PM
1-Very likely
2-Very likely
'4.2.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 3:08:00 PM
I would definitely recommend the program to others. It is beneficial to one's career.
I would definitely take another course through the IEEE Education Partners PRogram
'4.2.12
Hardik 5/20/2008 3:14:37 PM
Highly recommend because of time and cost saving. Apart from that get the same
knowledge.
'4.2.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:22:05 PM
i will definately recommend to others.
'4.2.14
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:11:45 AM
"Very Likely" to both questions.
'4.3
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:18 PM
What would you change about the program that you think would make the program even
better and more attractive to more IEEE members?
'4.3.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:13:46 PM
It needs to be marketed more. It is so valuable but I don't think people know about it.
'4.3.2 David 5/18/2008 5:40:15 PM
Deeper discount ;)
'4.3.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:36:18 PM
I would not change anything other then maybe make the discount bigger since everyone
likes big discounts.
'4.3.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:01:44 AM
As per my opinion, i would prefer to start new Technology program with the practical labs
if possible some extent it will be good for the formers in new technology.
'4.3.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:55:05 PM
I would like to see more courses about Software Quality and additional EPs
'4.3.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:49:52 PM
More providers will always make the program more atttractive.
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'4.3.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:52:56 PM
I think the program could be extended to apply to on-campus courses as well - at my
school, only certain online courses were qualified.
'4.3.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 8:18:05 PM
What would be really nice would be if the IEEE acted as a coordinator for all courses, and
allowed members to create customized degree programs combining courses from any/all
participating course providers. Not sure which school would grant the degree. Participants
could rate the various courses, so everyone would know which courses from which schools
were the best (and which ones to avoid). As it is, all the material about each school is just
advertising.
Even if the IEEE didn't try the above (I admit it's pretty unlikely it could be arranged), it
would be nice if they offered a rating system for participants to report their experiences
on. This would help everyone find the best courses to take.
'4.3.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:34:24 PM
I am not sure what else they could offer.
'4.3.10
Robert 5/20/2008 1:32:48 PM
None that I can think of.
'4.3.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 3:13:15 PM
Probably more advertisement, more school partnerships and more schools with Master
programs instead of just certificates.
'4.3.12
Hardik 5/20/2008 3:20:29 PM
I would accommodate more colleges and institutions to take part in this program, so more
and more students can take participate in this program. I would also provide some
flexibility to access IEEE articles and magazines to IEEE members.
'4.3.13
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:23:02 PM
Giving access to IEEE's database of white papers will make it more attractive.
'4.3.14
Barbara
I have no answer to this.
5/21/2008 10:12:36 AM
'4.4
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:18 PM
IEEE is working to improve the IEEE Education Partners website. Please take a few moments
to re-familiarize yourself with the website prior to moving to the next question. You can
view the website at:
http://www.ieee.org/web/education/partners/eduPartners.html
You can also access the site by clinking on the link in the whiteboard above.
'4.4.1 Michael
.
5/18/2008 2:14:22 PM
'4.4.2 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:35:32 PM
I would make the website more attractive. Breakdown the information into more
subpages. There is a lot of scrolling required just to see all of the information.
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'4.4.3 Robert 5/20/2008 1:33:20 PM
Ok I opened that window.
'4.5
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:18 PM
Currently, the website is designed as a portal with different entrance points to details about
the programs offered by each education provider.
From what you recall when you first investigated the IEEE Education Partners Program, how
many of the education providers’ websites did you investigate? One? Two? All of them?
How did you decide which ones to look at further?
'4.5.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:15:03 PM
I don't recall visiting a website when I first started. This was about eight years ago. I
learned of the program from the institution.
'4.5.2 David 5/18/2008 5:41:23 PM
Only one.
I didn't use the website.
'4.5.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:37:37 PM
I only looked at the one since I had already chossen a university before I found out about
the IEEE program.
'4.5.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:07:21 AM
i investigated mostly the universities because i was student at that time. also i went from
the ranking of schools and area too. because i am international student.
mostly i prefer the go for course in which student or pursuers are interested.
'4.5.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:57:09 PM
All of them
GE
Inquestra
Perdue
The Learning Tree
'4.5.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:48:19 PM
I believe I looked at 2-3 different providers' websites. I based those searches off of their
reputation (or my impression of it at least) in the field of electric power engineering and
their graduate programs in that field.
'4.5.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:54:34 PM
OK, I have answered this question so many times until now but I guess, I'd have to do it
again:
I looked at one particular education provider based on prior experience.
'4.5.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 8:32:56 PM
Originally I only looked at the Drexel link. I have since looked at several of the other
schools, but as I am already in the Drexel program this is just for curiosity.
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'4.5.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:36:17 PM
I looked at two. Those were the ones local to me.
'4.5.10
Robert 5/20/2008 1:34:03 PM
I only looked at One. I look for the partners with a well known name.
'4.5.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 3:19:49 PM
I investigated 2 of the education providers. I was set on going to Stevens however I went
to RIT's website just to check it out. I know RIT is a good engineering school which was
why I looked into the school's website
'4.5.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:25:12 PM
Actually my university gave me option to take the course through IEEE education partners
program thats why i didnt had any other choice.
'4.5.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:14:50 AM
I investigated only one. The one that I was interested in at the time.
'4.5.14
Hardik 5/21/2008 10:59:20 AM
I have visited a few education providers on this website. I would say three. I had decided
to navigate from their introduction on the home page. i don't want to check if it doesn't fall
in my criteria such as courses, distance from my home, popularity, etc.
'4.6
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:18 PM
What suggestions can you give to improve how the IEEE Education Partners Program
website is organized?
'4.6.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:15:52 PM
The page is very long. people might not get to the bottom when making descisions.
Perhaps some kind of breadcrumb to make sure people will get to the bottom of the page?
'4.6.2 David 5/18/2008 5:41:42 PM
Seems well organized.
'4.6.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:38:15 PM
I would add a search feature so that you could look for schools or courses in your area.
'4.6.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:10:20 AM
as per my opinion, i am not able to give this answer because there are more intelligent
people working in this program.
but still i want to say that all education providers give the information about this course.
'4.6.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 12:59:01 PM
Make the Search Tool option more visible
'4.6.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 1:51:32 PM
I am not a huge fan of the logos for each provider being displayed. A list format might
streamline the site more.
'4.6.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 7:55:18 PM
Again, answered in previous question:
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Make a list of all providers and link to a specially tailored section of that institution.
'4.6.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 8:34:29 PM
It would be nice to see a list of programs/courses available by name, then see which
institutions offer them.
'4.6.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:36:45 PM
I would make the website more attractive. Breakdown the information into more
subpages. There is a lot of scrolling required just to see all of the information.
'4.6.10
None.
Robert 5/20/2008 1:35:29 PM
'4.6.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 3:41:33 PM
Nothing ,it is very straightforward
'4.6.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:25:41 PM
i think its good the way it is
'4.6.13
None
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:16:39 AM
'4.6.14
Hardik 5/21/2008 11:33:30 AM
I think they should use more vibrant and seasonal colors to attract more and more people
on their website. Instead of big boxes for different education partners information, they
should assign different pop up or pull down tab to list education partners. I also
recommendate to list them as state wise, so people from different states can surf pages
according to their needs. They also can use some flash pictures such as students
mingling, facilities in libraries, meeting halls, historical buildings, etc. around different
colleges and universities to make website more live and interesting.
'4.7
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:18 PM
One of the features that is planned or the new website is a search function that will allow
you to find the types of courses that you want. What are some of the search fields you
would find most helpful—the ones that would help you narrow your search to just the kinds
of classes that you are interested in taking?
'4.7.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:16:58 PM
location
institution type (profit/nonprofit)
online vs classroom
degree program vs non degree program
subject matter
'4.7.2 David 5/18/2008 5:42:37 PM
Search by degree desired. Search by certificate desired. Search by goegraphical location.
Search online only.
'4.7.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:39:22 PM
a search or either online or traditional classes
a search by geograohical area
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'4.7.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:15:23 AM
it is like i would interest in satellite communication course in stevens
institute of technology. that i have to find very much deeper side of stevens website. so i
would suggest that they would provide some search field area so people can find the about
the interested in course.
'4.7.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 1:00:30 PM
Location
Price
Length of time to complete teh course
By Topic
'4.7.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 2:00:23 PM
Different focus areas from more broad topics. For example, electric power engineering can
be broken down into transmission, distribution, generation, etc, and those fields can be
broken down further by what you want to study, such as modeling and analysis of
transmission systems versus planning of transmission operation.
'4.7.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 8:06:16 PM
Off the top of my head, I would have to say a search by geographical location.
'4.7.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 8:39:42 PM
course keywords, course title, duration, credits, cost, institution, delivery format, type of
schedule (self paced, fixed schedule, ?)
'4.7.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:37:52 PM
Technical versus management course type search
By discipline (Electrical, Mechanical, etc)
'4.7.10
Robert 5/20/2008 1:35:54 PM
None that I know of.
'4.7.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 3:44:37 PM
Master's program related courses, field (civil, electrical, mechanical) type courses, type of
level (intro, advanced).
'4.7.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:27:18 PM
Course name,
Professor name
Duration
Course evaluation type
'4.7.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:17:58 AM
topic, eLearning availability, CEU, degree option, certificate option.
'4.7.14
Hardik 5/21/2008 11:44:45 AM
I don't see any problem with the search engine. I have searched a lot of things to register
and to find classes, to get information about offered classes, etc.
'5.1
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:29 PM
One of the challenges with marketing the IEEE Education Partners program is the sheer
volume of information that members receive, both from IEEE, other organizations,
businesses and anyone else with a message or product.
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Where would you EXPECT to find information about the IEEE Education Partners Program?
Where would you look?
Since you are familiar with the program—and obviously found it in order to participate—
what ideas do you have for the BEST way to break through the “clutter” and get the
message out that this program is available to IEEE members?
'5.1.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:18:15 PM
IEEE web site, mailed and email communications. Sections should put it in the newletters.
Targeted communications on this topic. Emails specific to the program. Promiennt
placement in sections newsletters and society publications.
'5.1.2 David 5/18/2008 5:44:43 PM
Direct email is the most effective. Also maybe prominent links on the institutions web site.
Target people you know may be already interested in continuing education.
'5.1.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:40:21 PM
I would expect to find it in the IEEE publication like the magazines and journal.
'5.1.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:27:29 AM
i would suggest that almost each and every search engine find about the university on
search engine you will represent the the special has location that search engine suggest
this program. also front of ieee website you guys have to put add.
many parents and students are finding about the university ranking form usnews and
some other website on that put add so they will know about this program and this society.
'5.1.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 1:04:14 PM
I would expect the information to be at the top-center of the web-page. I have to look
through the webpage to fins what I'm looking for...
Send a letter with the membership renewal. Have a link on every society's web-site
'5.1.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 2:03:05 PM
I am a fan of how the website advertises the 10% discount right up front. This is the most
important part for getting most people (myself included) to consider the opportunities
provided, since everyone is looking to save money. Also, I would expect to find what is
offered in a list, categorized by the type of opportunity (ie. academic, seminar, etc.)
'5.1.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 8:07:38 PM
There are 2 places where it pretty much seems obvious to me - the institutions involved
and the enrollment page for IEEE membership.
'5.1.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 8:46:55 PM
Advertisements in the various IEEE publications worked for me. With all the new
electronic delivery formats this should be straightforward. Advertising by the partner
institutions in other non-IEEE trade publications would reach more members who might no
pay attention to the IEEE pubs. Last, send a notification along with the annual
membership info packet publicizing member benefits, including this one.
'5.1.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:39:48 PM
The emails are a good method. Partnership mailing could help. I throw away mail directly
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from universities because it is advertisements. It is comes from IEEE, I generally read it.
A mail should have the IEEE logo with the universities. Then I can direct myself to the
website and read more.
'5.1.10
Robert 5/20/2008 1:36:46 PM
I would look on the web first.
I would send emails to the members.
'5.1.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 3:55:10 PM
I find that posting the information about IEEE Education Partners Program in school
websites is most useful. Then within those website direct people to the Education Partners
website. When a person is looking through school website they are interested in continuing
their education which is not something IEEE can determine.
'5.1.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:29:00 PM
I think universities are the best place to market. Sending mails to new students, definately
spreads the word.
'5.1.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:20:42 AM
Well, my education is part of ME... I would expect to find a link to the page on the myIEEE
home page.
'5.1.14
Hardik 5/21/2008 11:47:26 AM
I would say from IEEE itself. And also more from other institutions who offer IEEE
Education Partners Program. I would look on respective colleges or universities website or
try to get more from IEEE website.
'5.2
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:29 PM
Think back to the last business-related marketing message that really got your attention.
Perhaps it was something that you weren’t even particularly interested in, but for some
reason it stood out and made you look or read to find out more.
What was the product or message? What made it stand out and command your attention?
Can IEEE use any of the ideas you learned from this to market the IEEE Education Partners
Program?
'5.2.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:21:09 PM
I don't think anybody does marketing better than apple computer. The mac, iPhone, iPod
commercials are wonderful and the Apple website is clean and wonderful.
Mind you consumer products a very different animal than this program, but it is all about
catching the eye. The biggest weapon the program has to catch somebodies eye is the
discount. I know it is shallow, but it is true. That will make people look more.
'5.2.2 David 5/18/2008 5:46:04 PM
Probably that "Dude" comercial for bud-light. It was funny. Humor works the best for me.
'5.2.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:43:01 PM
I can not think of any since I just delete most of the junk email I get a few TV ads have
gotten my attention but I don't think they would work well for IEEE.
'5.2.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:32:35 AM
As i know you guys used that information that i will got 10% discount on my course. but
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you will not provide enough information about that.
as i know IEEE gives this discount on each course so i have to find out on IEEE site. but its
not true,
i am taking this course on this education providers and they will give me the discount on
my each of this course. give some step so they will know about that because some people
understand that IEEE gives this discount on course so they have to submit the information
to IEEE.
any other i do not know because i do not know much about marketting.
'5.2.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 1:06:37 PM
Telus Christmas commercial.
It would be a great idea for IEEE to advertise on buses, subways, and on T.V.
Mabe the IEEE needs a mascot...
'5.2.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 2:11:45 PM
I can't think of a specific example, but marketing messages I find the most attractive are
simple and to the point. They emphasize what the program can do for me.
'5.2.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 8:12:47 PM
I generally don't like marketing very much but every once in a while, I do encounter an ad
that really grabs my attention. But it has to be extreme. I can think of a few DO NOTs
right now - the PC vs. Mac commercial or the moronic ads presented by "common people",
which are supposed to be relatable to such - both extremely annoying to me. I guess
what could be taken from these unsuccessful ads, in my opinion, (also the Comcast vs.
Verizon ones) is not to go for the cheap and obvious.
'5.2.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 9:00:14 PM
While looking at some resumes for a position I have open in my group, I happened on one
that wasn't a fit for my opening, but the persons skills were really what I needed for
another position that I hadn't yet opened.
If you can show engineers that they need to take advantage of the partners program to be
successful, they will.
'5.2.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:41:12 PM
I think just an interesting picture with a good caption. Nothing too fancy. Each person is
different in what will peak his/her interest.
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Robert 5/20/2008 1:38:18 PM
The one that comes to mind is the Allstate commercial on the radio where they were
talking about trading in your wife for a new wife. They were just joking but I still
remember it. What made it stand out was
a) The humor
b) Saying something outrageous and not expected.
'5.2.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 4:02:52 PM
The message was Microsoft Office package for a bargain price. The price made the
message stand out. IEEE can print in bold 10% off tuition discount to employees of a
company. IEEE can try to ask engineering companies to mass email the discount to their
employees.
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'5.2.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:31:33 PM
Targeting different groups with different offering can be a good idea for marketing.
'5.2.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:26:31 AM
The invitation to participate in this interview! The politeness of the email message, the
fact that I would be helping IEEE to help others, the "IEEE" brand attached to it.
'5.2.14
Hardik 5/21/2008 11:51:48 AM
It is just all about attention on timely emails, magazines, interesting and knowledgeable
articles, and member discounts. The most attention I have gotten from the interesting and
intellitual technology articles, and IEEE member discounts.
'5.3
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:29 PM
IEEE is considering a marketing program that uses a “tag line” or “slogan” to promote the
IEEE Education Partners Program. The line is:
“The Power of 10.”
When you first read “The Power of 10,” what did you think it was about?
'5.3.14
Robin - Moderator
5/21/2008 12:32:10 PM
The slogan refers to the 10% discount on education programs for IEEE members.
Obviously, the campaign relies on the discount as a major selling point.
What do you think of the focus on the discount?
For you, is there a better or more compelling selling point for the program?
'5.3.14.1 Hardik 5/21/2008 1:19:54 PM
Yes, it is pretty enough discount on webcampus courses. I don't see any better discount
or any great scheme to sell this program.
'5.3.14.2 Kunal 5/21/2008 6:03:18 PM
I also believe that 10% discount attracts lots of students.
'5.3.14.3 Michael
5/21/2008 6:31:59 PM
While the discount will bring people in, an idealist would say that the focus should be on
personal improvement and now the money one might be able to save.
'5.3.14.4 David 5/21/2008 7:25:28 PM
It seems appropriate.
I guess not. You may want to emphasize that it is a IEEE membership benefit and it has
been a very important one to me.
'5.3.14.5 Fred L. 5/21/2008 7:51:51 PM
I think many engineers are probably getting tuition reimbursement, so the 10% may not
be a big selling point. I also noticed that Purdue doesn't give 10% if you are taking
classes for credit...not much advantage there. For me, a bigger selling point is what the
various curriculums offered can do for my career. If the IEEE would pre-screen programs
and provide something like a "Good Housekeeping seal of approval" guarantee, that
would definitely be a strong selling point. Being able to share experiences between
members is another plus that could distinguish the IEEE program. Currently, there's no
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real incentive to use the IEEE site as opposed to just Googling what you want and going
directly to the providers' sites. That's pretty much where you end up any how. The 10%
is a bonus if you choose a school in the program, but I doubt the 10% will be a big factor
in the decision.
'5.3.14.6 Shylah 5/21/2008 8:38:29 PM
I was more inclined to register because of the 10% ...so I think it's a good idea to focus
on it
'5.3.14.7 Fred F. 5/21/2008 8:56:23 PM
I like the idea of playing up the discount since that is the main reason I joined IEEE
orgianlly.
'5.3.14.8 Robert 5/21/2008 11:23:12 PM
I think that is a very good selling point.
There are actually two good selling points.
1) 10% discount.
2) IEEE endorses the partner.
'5.3.14.9 Jeff
5/23/2008 7:05:40 AM
The discount is a great selling point. The only problem with the 10% discount for me is
that I do not see the discount. My company pays for my education and the 10% is taking
off upfront, so when I submit the bill to my company they pay the reduced rate. I think
this may be true for most people because today many medium to large companies pay
for education
It would be great if we could get 10% of the books as well. I do not get reimbursed for
them.
'5.3.14.10 Jessica 5/23/2008 9:26:59 AM
No there is not a better or more compelling selling point. With tuition getting more
expensive every year, getting a 10% discount is a major selling point. Its difficult for
adults who are going after continuing education to cover the tuition because many are
not full-time students therefore don't qualify for many of the scholarships or grants. As a
result, tuition is a big factor and a major selling point for IEEE Education Partners
Program.
'5.3.14.11 Barbara
5/23/2008 12:24:52 PM
We are a society motivated by making money and saving money.
For me, the long-term benefits of enhancing my knowledge and skills are more
important. Not sure how one would market that.
Some of the classes are, well, pricey. A 10% discount is nice, but employer
reimbursement of the class is nicer. Not sure how one would market that either.
'5.3.14.12 Plamen
5/23/2008 2:52:55 PM
I think the focus on the discount is right on the money - I recall having to rank the
different features of the program and the 10% discount was my top consideration, so you
are on the right track. Therefore, I don't think there's a better or a more compelling
selling point.
'5.3.14.13 Ankur 5/23/2008 8:13:50 PM
That true,it is major selling point.But if you markettinf by proper way like if the university
and company told their students and employees that they offer new technology and they
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also they are giving discount offers.
aslo Send the mails to the shoools about this program so they can know about this
program in schools. also tehy can help in subject also knowleadge wise too.
'5.3.14.14 Jonathan
5/24/2008 5:40:26 PM
The 10% discount is probably the biggest selling point (after finding a course I wanted to
take) and I think this is most likely true for others as well. I might been a little harsh on
the slogan...I like the focus being put on the discount.
'5.3.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:22:29 PM
Took me too long to figure out what it meant. I think it is talking about the discount. I
don't think a slogan should reference the discount. Marketing materials can certainly bring
it to the forefront, but the slogan should be about the value it bring to the indiviuals life,
not the wallet.
'5.3.2 David 5/18/2008 5:47:05 PM
I guess that refers to the discount? Kind of catchy but doesn't relay represent anything
concrete.
'5.3.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:44:43 PM
I did not really think of anything but I would not have thought it was about an education
program.
'5.3.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:37:08 AM
Because of this slogan i am very curious about what is power of 10. is it some rating or
something give the information about new technology.
'5.3.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 1:07:57 PM
I don't like it.
It makes me think about fractions.
'5.3.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 2:05:03 PM
I get it, but I kind of think it's cheesy.
'5.3.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 8:13:59 PM
Well, it does have a math ring to it and I'm not sure how successful that would be among
the majority of people out there who hate math. I think "The Power of 10 Percent" sounds
better and clearer.
'5.3.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 8:54:00 PM
Didn't really evoke anything in particular. Let's not forget we're dealing with engineers
here. I don't think an advertising campaign based on tag lines is going to go too far.
Engineers are very practical. You need to actually provide them some advantage to using
the IEEE program. "If you build it, they will come" sort of thing. But there needs to be
some value-added aspect that's real, not rhetoric.
'5.3.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:42:31 PM
I imagined it being a Top 10 list of some kind. Not necessarily anything in particular.
'5.3.10
Robert 5/20/2008 1:39:11 PM
I think about 10 raise to some power (like 2 or 3 etc).
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'5.3.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 4:05:08 PM
I think about math such as log and exponents.
'5.3.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:32:22 PM
10 advantages that I can get through participating in IEEE program.
'5.3.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:28:42 AM
First thing that comes to mind is "10 steps to project management".
'5.4
Robin - Moderator
NOT POSTED
In fact, the slogan refers to the 10% discount on education programs for IEEE members.
Obviously, the campaign relies on the discount as a major selling point.
What do you think of the focus on the discount?
For you, is there a better or more compelling selling point for the program?
'5.5
Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:29 PM
What final words of advice do you have for IEEE on the Education Partners Program?
'5.5.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:23:08 PM
Keep up the marketing efforts. The program is excellent and the offerings are plentiful.
People just needs to learn about it.
'5.5.2 David 5/18/2008 5:48:08 PM
I think it is an important benefit. I had a few lean years recently and the discount was a
big factor in keeping membership in IEEE.
'5.5.3 Fred F. 5/18/2008 11:46:00 PM
I think having the universities tell its students about the program is a big help and having
businesses offer it to their employes would not hurt either.
'5.5.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:39:42 AM
Just do marketing properly form website, also tell the universities
to advertise of that when the freshers are coming in their college.
'5.5.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 1:09:23 PM
I have no advice
'5.5.6 Jonathan
5/19/2008 2:06:53 PM
Place a link on the IEEE homepage. Better yet, an icon or something that advertises the
program. The webpage for the program is kind of hard to find.
'5.5.6.1
Jonathan
5/19/2008 2:09:52 PM
I did just find the link after closer searching. I think making it more visible would still
help.
'5.5.7 Plamen
5/19/2008 8:14:34 PM
Keep the program going and try to look for areas of expansion that would present more
possibilities for IEEE members.
'5.5.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 9:01:58 PM
Get quality programs. Publicize success stories. Let members rate programs. Provide
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value to members.
'5.5.9 Jeff
5/20/2008 12:43:59 PM
Advertising in the IEEE Spectrum could help. I have not noticed ads in that magazine.
Many young engineers are going for their degrees. We have to go for it to keep up with
everyone else. A little advertising will catch our attentions.
'5.5.9.1
Jeff
5/20/2008 12:44:24 PM
Also, have the universities talk it up more.
'5.5.10
Robert 5/20/2008 1:41:36 PM
I would suggest that you make sure the textbooks are good and that you can learn from
them. Basically taking classes online you need a strong textbook with examples. The one
thing that a traditional classroom setting has if that you get to here the inflection of the
teacher voice plus the real-world life examples that are given.
The classes online must be really organized and the instructor needs to continually remind
the students of the work ahead so they can plan for it.
'5.5.11
Jessica 5/20/2008 4:06:20 PM
I think more outreach should be done to other schools, even prestigious schools such as
University of Pennsylvania to offer tuition discounts for continuing education.
'5.5.12
Kunal 5/20/2008 10:33:44 PM
Processing for the rebate was little difficult.
'5.5.13
Barbara
5/21/2008 10:30:34 AM
I guess ... to remind people how fast technology changes (like they need reminding)... and
in order to keep up... they need to educate.
'5.5.14
Not any.
Hardik 5/21/2008 1:22:12 PM
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Robin - Moderator
5/15/2008 3:01:29 PM
I appreciate your participation and willingness to share your opinions. The information you
have provided in this discussion has been extremely valuable. Thank you again for your
time and input on behalf of IEEE.
In this place please provide your full name and complete mailing address, exactly as it
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Don’t forget that I will probably have some follow-up questions. I will notify you by email
once my comments and questions are posted. Thanks again!
Robin Wedewer
'5.6.1 Michael
5/18/2008 2:23:33 PM
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'5.6.2 David 5/18/2008 5:48:55 PM
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'5.6.4 Ankur 5/19/2008 8:42:23 AM
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'5.6.5 Shylah 5/19/2008 1:10:52 PM
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'5.6.6 Jonathan
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'5.6.7 Plamen
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'5.6.8 Fred L. 5/19/2008 9:03:02 PM
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'5.6.9 Jeff
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Robert 5/20/2008 1:42:01 PM
Thanks. Bye.
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