AVIATION ACCESS WORKING GROUP SUMMARY RECORD: MEETING 1, 6 FEBRUARY 2009 The Chair opened the meeting and invited the group to introduce themselves. An attendance list can be found at Attachment A. The Chair then introduced the Parliamentary Secretary for Disabilities and Children’s Services, the Hon Bill Shorten MP, who addressed the group. Mr Shorten advised the group that he and Minister Albanese strongly supported the group’s formation and expected its work to progress the issues faced by people with disability when travelling by air. He said that, from an accessibility perspective, people with disabilities had not benefitted from the increased competitiveness of the aviation industry and that notwithstanding current pressures on the aviation industry, this was not an excuse for discriminatory actions. Disability advocates then raised with Mr Shorten some concerns they would like to see discussed during the meeting, including a perceived gap between policy and implementation, comparisons with other countries and the enforceability of existing standards. The Group also briefly discussed the desirability of new approaches to design issues for aircraft and airports and the necessity for improvements in aviation industry staff training on the treatment of people with special needs. Members discussed the wording of the draft Terms of Reference and final wording was agreed. Revised Terms of Reference for the Working Group is at Attachment B. The Chair thanked those in the group who had made submissions to the National Aviation Policy Green Paper released in December 2008 and indicated that a main focus of the group would be to provide input into the upcoming White Paper. Members agreed but stressed the White Paper should not be the sole focus and that additional practical outcomes need to be achieved. The Chair also committed to provide a summary of relevant White Paper submissions to the next meeting. Members discussed the issues of travelling with assistance animals in the aircraft cabin and the safety-based restrictions on seating people with disability in exit rows. The Department of Infrastructure, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA), the Australian Human Rights Commission and the Attorney-General’s Department will meet to discuss the associated legislation. The need to consider the different sizes of aircraft was discussed and it was suggested that aircraft be separated into small, medium and large capacity for the purpose of ongoing discussions. The same notional separation was suggested for airport operations to allow for variations in resourcing and service levels. The group discussed issues associated with Occupational Health and Safety (OHS) and ways to provide appropriate assistance without risking injury to industry staff, for example, in the lifting of people and equipment. Airline representatives supported limits to the number of people with disability on a single flight for OHS and staff resourcing reasons. The group recognised that industry policies were often subject to 1 interpretation by staff and that low-cost airlines and small carriers had financial and resourcing limitations. The Chair informed the group that the Department was following up on the release of the report on the Transport Standards Review. The report is expected to be submitted to the Review Steering Committee within the next eight weeks and will then be provided to the Government for its consideration and final response. The Office of Transport Security (OTS) addressed the group on a recent Governmental review of security screening processes and advised that the implementation of the Review’s recommendations on special circumstances screening could be facilitated through this group. The OTS representative noted that many complaints are about the perceived insensitivity and inadequate training of security personnel when dealing with people with special needs. OTS noted that the Review team had consulted with most, if not all, of the organisations represented at the meeting. It was reported that the OTS review will feed into subsequent training programmes and the creation of screening practice guidelines. OTS requested input from the group on the development of these guidelines and asked the Secretariat to circulate the information to the members. Members noted concerns with the check-in process, including breakdowns in communication between booking information and check-in staff, lack of assistance ‘commissionaires’ for escort and check-in, check-in of personal wheelchairs and inadequacy of airport terminal wheelchairs, and the height of check-in service desks. Concerns were also raised about the lack of dual audio and visual components in communicating with passengers, especially in the terminal. It was suggested, for example, that verbal announcements over the PA system be accompanied by electronic signs. Members said best practice standards should be applied and that industry should keep up with advances in technology that enable smoother, more comfortable travelling, such as new light collapsible wheelchairs that can be stowed in the cabin. Invited by the Chair to discuss the in-flight experience, some members expressed frustration with access to toilets and narrow aisles in aircraft. Qantas representatives reported that the new Airbus 380 has sizeable toilet facilities on the main deck and that it has requested an enlargement to the toilet facilities on the upper deck to increase access. Cabin safety was also discussed and members noted that the hearing impaired preferred seating arrangements that allowed them to lip read the safety briefing given by the flight attendant. Airservices Australia reported that there were no specific procedures in place for evacuating people with disability in the event of an emergency requiring the services of the Aviation Rescue and Fire Fighting team. One industry member noted that emergency plans take into account that people may not be able to evacuate themselves due to injury or other reasons. An industry member raised the issue of flight attendants being required to make a judgement about whether each passenger had understood the safety briefing and 2 having responsibility to refuse to fly a passenger with disability if they were not confident of full comprehension. Qantas noted that under new requirements in the United States, crew are not allowed to directly ask a passenger if he/she has understood the safety briefing and Attorney-General’s Department advised that the Disability Discrimination Act in Australia states that a person cannot request information from another if the response can be used to discriminate against them. The Chair suggested the formation of two small working groups, as subsets of the Working Group. One to examine the legislative framework of access issues, particularly the interaction between CASA safety regulations, the Occupational Health and Safety Act and the Disability Discrimination Act, and the other to examine a range of practical issues and possible approaches to the process of air travel for people with disability. 3 ATTACHMENT A ATTENDANCE – MEETING 1, 6 FEBRUARY 2009 Organisation Parliamentary Secretary for Disabilities and Children’s Services Australian Human Rights Commission Australian Federation of Disability Organisations National Disability Services Physical Disability Australia Deafness Forum of Australia Qantas Virgin Blue Tiger Airways Regional Express Regional Aviation Association of Australia Flight Safety Foundation Transport Workers Union Civil Aviation Safety Authority Airservices Australia (Aviation Rescue & Fire Fighting) Attorney General’s Department Department of Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs Aviation and Airports, Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government Office of Transport Security, Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government Apologies Australian Airports Association 4 ATTACHMENT B REVISED TERMS OF REFERENCE AVIATION ACCESS WORKING GROUP TERMS OF REFERENCE 1. PURPOSE The Aviation Access Working Group (AAWG) will provide advice on disability access policy, legislative amendments and the practicality of aviation safety regulations for people with disability. 2. MEMBERSHIP The AAWG will comprise representatives from industry, relevant government agencies and representatives of people with disability and will receive secretariat support from the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government. 3. FUNCTIONS The function of the AAWG is to: a) contribute to the National Aviation Policy Statement; b) contribute to the Government response to the report on the Transport Standards Review and facilitate the implementation of any recommendations; c) advise the Government on the practicality and interaction of the existing aviation legislation with the Disability Discrimination Act 1992; and d) consider other measures and actions that can provide people with disability access to air travel while ensuring the safety and security of all fare paying passengers. 5