Summary of the Conference of National Breed Councils held on Saturday, 26 June,
2010 in the River Room at the Kogarah Golf Club, 19 Marsh Street, Arncliffe, New South
Wales commencing at 9.30 a.m.
1.
PRESENT:
Mrs M Merchant
Chairperson
25 Delegates representing the following National Breed Councils:
National Afghan Hound Council (Australia)
National Border Collie Council (Australia)
National Borzoi Council (Australia)
National Boxer Council (Australia)
National British Bulldog Council (Australia)
National Bull Terrier Council (Australia)
National Bullmastiff Council (Australia)
National Collie (Rough & Smooth) Council (Australia)
National Dachshund Council (Australia)
National Dobermann Council (Australia)
National Golden Retriever Council (Australia)
German Shepherd Dog Council (Australia)
National Labrador Retriever Council (Australia)
National Tenterfield Terrier Council (Australia)
National Weimaraner Council (Australia)
National Welsh Corgi Council (Australia)
IN ATTENDANCE:
Dr K Hedberg
Mr R Bridgford
ANKC Canine Health Committee
ANKC Breed Standards Coordination Group
APOLOGIES:
National Dalmatian Council (Australia)
National Old English Sheepdog Council (Australia)
National Rhodesian Ridgeback Council (Australia)
National Samoyed Council (Australia)
National Whippet Council (Australia)
MINUTES RECORDED BY:
Ms T Barry
ANKC Administrator
INTRODUCTION AND WELCOME
(Mrs Marie Merchant)
The Chairperson welcomed delegates to the eleventh Conference of National Breed
Councils. Delegates noted Dr Karen Hedberg the National Canine Health & Welfare
Committee (CH&WC) Chairperson was in attendance together with Mr Roger
Bridgford representing the National Breed Standards Coordination Group (NBSCG).
Delegates noted advice from Mrs Merchant that the National Tenterfield Terrier
Council (Australia) delegate, Jane Harvey had been omitted from the minutes of the
2009 meeting and the minutes would be amended to reflect this inclusion.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of W Stacey/D Cross that the July 2009 National
Breed Council Conference minutes to be amended to acknowledge the National
Tenterfield Terrier Council (Australia) attendance at the meeting.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
2.
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie Council,
National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council, National British
Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council, National Bullmastiff
Council, National Collie (Rough & Smooth) Council, National
Dobermann Council, German Shepherd Dog Council Australia,
National Golden Retriever Council, National Labrador Retriever
Council, National Tenterfield Terrier Council, National Weimaraner
Council, National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council
APPROVAL OF THE SUMMARY OF THE NATIONAL BREED COUNCILS
CONFERENCE HELD 18th JULY, 2009 BY THE ANKC CONFERENCE:
At the October 2009 ANKC Conference, Delegates received the Summary of the
National Breed Councils Conference held 18th July, 2009 and discussed
recommendations arising there from.
2.1
Dangerous Dog/Breed Specific Legislation
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 5.2)
Discussed:
Discussed:
Discussed:
Discussed:
Discussed:
Discussed:
Aug 05, item 5.9
Oct 05, item 2.9
Oct 06, item 7.6.2
Oct 07, item 5.17
Jun 08, item 2.15
Oct 08, item 6.3.3
German Shepherd Dog Council
The ANKC should look at a broad approach to this increasingly troublesome
area. There should be input from the various NBC's that are particularly likely
to be affected such asRottweilers, Dobermanns, German Shepherd Dog's, Bull Terriers,
Staffordshire Terriers etc.
Rationale:
The anti-dog lobby is constantly chipping away at the various state
legislations. We as a group via the ANKC have considerable strength and
power (if welded in time and on a unified front) to be proactive and put in
submissions every time these laws comes up for review. Unfortunately, the
ANKC has seldom called for input by the most vulnerable breeds that are/will
be affected by breed specific restrictive legislation. We as a breed have a
history of being affected by such legislation, it may be up to us to lead the way
in being strongly proactive against re-instatement of such legislations.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of K Hedberg/M Burns to refer this matter to
the National Welfare Canine Committee.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of J McMurtrie/G Cowie to
deal with this matter at the main conference during discussions with Professor
Bob Hales.
Delegates noted this issue was not dealt with at the last ANKC Conference
and has been resubmitted for the October 2006 ANKC Conference.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of M Hammett/P Frost to defer this item to
the main conference agenda.
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On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For: ACTCA, CAWA, CCCQ, NACA, SACA, TCA, VCA
Against: DOGS NSW
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of K Irwin/M Bungey for the
VCA Threatened Breeds Committee to review whether the ANKC should look
at a broad approach to this increasingly troublesome area. Should there be
input from the various NBC's that are particularly likely to be affected such asRottweilers, Dobermanns, German Shepherd Dog's, Bull
Staffordshire Terriers etc. and come back to the next conference.
Terriers,
The VCA Committee has responded advising they are unclear as to what was
required and felt that in the absence of clear directions there was little
purpose in progressing. They recommend that if the ANKC wishes to
progress the matter, the National Breed Council should take it on board and
set up a Task Force/Working Party/Special Needs Group made up of the
breeds involved which would be charged to report back to the main
conference on their findings.
It was unanimously RESOLVED that this matter be referred back to the relevant
National Breed Councils and they be requested to forward their submissions to
the National Canine Welfare Committee.
Mrs Neddermeyer said the GSDCAA believed this to be a sensitive issue in
respect of their breed. She said the GSDCAA had formed a Breed Specific
Committee and had conducted meetings with NSW Local Government
Departments and urged the ANKC to take a more proactive approach as this
issue not only affected German Shepherds but every breed throughout
Australia.
Despite assurances from State Governments, politicians tend to change their
attitude when confronted with public pressure as a result of negative media
reports relating to dog attacks. Ultimately politicians were the ones who make
the law.
Questions were raised concerning breeds that do not have a National Breed
Council which may want to make a submission with the majority of delegates
agreeing that the ANKC should issue a Press Release to cover these breeds.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of J Neddermeyer/L Gunter for an ANKC
Press Release to be issued to Member Bodies for publication in their next
gazette/journals seeking submissions from Breed Clubs which do not have a
National Breed Council. These submissions would then be sent to the Canine
Welfare Committee.
Discussion then followed on the current situation facing Dogs Victoria in
respect to changes to State Legislation. Mr Frost confirmed that as State
President he had attended meetings with the Head of the Department of
Primary Industries and what had become evident was that government
officials had little knowledge of the dog world in terms of breeds, breeding,
etc. It was essential that the ANKC and Member Bodies continued to develop
open dialogue with government officials to get our point across.
Delegates agreed the issue of Breed Specific Legislation was not just an
Australian issue but a Worldwide issue.
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It was RESOLVED on the motion of B Parker/P Frost to endorse the
recommendation for an ANKC approved Press Release, to be issued to
Member Bodies for publication in their next gazette/journals seeking
submissions from Breed Clubs which do not have a National Breed Council.
These submissions would then be sent to the Canine Welfare Committee.
It was unanimously RESOLVED that this matter be referred to the ANKC PR
Consultant.
Mr Frost briefed delegates on the current progress with the appointment of
the ANKC Public Relations Consultant and confirmed it should be resolved
within coming weeks.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of W Stacey/M Cowin that a
recommendation be made that National Breed Councils are to be advised
when the ANKC Public Relations Consultant is appointed.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Tenterfield Terrier Council, National Weimaraner Council,
National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council
Delegates expressed disappointment that the matter of breed specific
legislation had been discussed at numerous meetings with little action being
achieved. After further discussion it was agreed that the National Breed
Councils should form a Working Party to deal with issues such as these.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of B Knight/E Gunter that a
recommendation be made that the National Breed Councils form a Working
Party to deal with breed specific legislation.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Tenterfield Terrier Council, National Weimaraner Council,
National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council
It was RESOLVED on the motion of E Gunter/D Cross that a
recommendation be made that the Working Party have the power to co-opt
from interested parties from breeds who do not have National Breed Councils.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
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For:
Abstain:
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Tenterfield Terrier Council, National Weimaraner Council,
National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council
It was RESOLVED on the motion of E Gunter/K Rogers that a
recommendation be made that J Neddermeyer from the Germans Shepherd
Dog Council of Australia be appointed as Convenor of the Working Party.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Tenterfield Terrier Council, National Weimaraner Council,
National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council
Mrs Merchant then called for interested parties who wished to join the
Working Party to provide their names and contact email addresses to Mr
Peter Frost at the meeting.
The following confirmed their interest in joining the Working Party:
National Breed Council
Name
Email Address
Border Collie
Judy de Jong
judydej@gmail.com
British Bulldog
Keith Meredith
Chadon2@bigpond.com
imaluv@froggy.com.au
2.2
Bull Terrier
Di Cross
bullterriers@missigai.com
Bullmastiff
Kim Rogers
Kim.rogers@phm.gov.au
Dobermann
Tanya Hill
Will confirm elected participant
Tenterfield Terrier
Leanne Bennett
tentapride@gmail.com
Amendment to ANKC Regulations Part 6
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.1)
Discussed:
Discussed:
Discussed:
Aug 07, item 4.4
Jun 08, Item 3.6
Jul 09, Item 2.6
National Labrador Retriever Council
That there be a regulation inserted in the ANKC Regulations Part 6 Section 8
that there be no litter registration limitations imposed on any breed without a
national survey of all registered owners of that breed indicating a majority are
in agreement.
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Rationale:
Following recent events where the phrase “and for certain higher risk breeds
the ANKC has the power to insist on an unaffected test report as a
prerequisite to litter registration” has been included in a published document
that has been ratified by the ANKC, it is imperative that the principle of
breeders having ultimate control over decisions and regulations pertaining to
hereditary disease testing within their breed be clearly stated by the ANKC
and supported by regulation.
Dr Hedberg said she believed this was the current ANKC Policy in respect of
litter registration limitations however some delegates disagreed.
Mr Boxhall suggested that consideration should be given to a new set of
ANKC Regulations being compiled containing decisions from the Canine
Health Committee.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of S Powers/S Pretty that this matter be
referred to the National Canine Health Committee.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For: For: National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council, National
Bullmastiff Council, National Bull Terrier Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Cocker Spaniel Council, National Dobermann
Council, German Shepherd Dog Council, National Labrador Retriever
Council, National Poodle Council, National Samoyed Council, National
Shetland Sheepdog Council, National Tenterfield Terrier Council, National
Weimaraner Council, National Welsh Corgi Council, National Whippet
Council.
Abstain: National Border Collie Council
Action:
National Canine Health Committee
Mrs Powers advised the original intent of the motion was to request an
amendment to the ANKC Regulations to ensure that a national survey of
registered breeders of any breed was conducted before any LRL’s were
implemented.
Dr Hedberg said she did not believe the ANKC could impose an LRL without
a breed survey however she would be raising this in our submission to the
annual ANKC October Conference.
It is accepted practice by the ANKC for a national breed survey to be
conducted with registered breeders prior to an LRL being imposed.
Dr Hedberg confirmed that delegates at the last October Conference had
endorsed a set of LRL Guidelines which are noted below:
Guidelines for Developing Litter Registration Limitations
i)
ii)
A National Breed Council (NBC) or Breed Specialty Club(s) (where an
NBC does not exist) must agree that the disease(s) is/are a problem
in the breed.
Once agreed they should develop a proposed breed survey rationale,
with questions that must be answered and a proposed date of
commencement (after the Breed Survey (BS) is completed).
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iii)
iv)
v)
vi)
The proposed BS should then be sent to the ANKC Canine Health
Committee (CHC) for comment, advice and assistance in the final
wording and understanding (including any ramifications of their
decisions). This is then sent back to the NBC/Breed Club. [If it is a
Breed Specialty Club(s), they must work through their State
Controlling Body.]
Once the final wording has been accepted, the BS sent out to all
owners and breeders of the breed involved Australia wide.
If the survey results are in the affirmative, it is then published in
Member Bodies Journals/Gazettes.
The LRL is then applied, with commencement dates usually 6 months
in advance of publication.
Removing Litter Registration Limitations
i)
ii)
If a NBC or Specialty Breed Club wishes to remove an LRL after a
period of time, they can apply to the ANKC CHC with accompanying
proof that the condition no longer warrants close monitoring.
If the ANKC CHC agrees with the removal of the LRL, this approval
and the request for removal of the LRL should be forwarded to the
ANKC for final approval.
Mr. Bleakley said he understood a procedure had been in place for many
years but had not been put into the regulations.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of L Bleakley/G Acreman that
ANKC Guidelines/Policies should be converted to Regulations.
That there be a regulation inserted in the ANKC Regulations Part 6 Section 8
that there be no litter registration limitations imposed on any breed without a
national survey of all registered owners of that breed indicating a majority are
in agreement.
It was noted Litter Registration Limitation guidelines already existed in the
regulations however delegates agreed it was important that ANKC guidelines
and policies should be in the regulations.
It was unanimously RESOLVED that ANKC adopt the recommendation that
ANKC Guidelines/Policies should be converted to Regulations.
The Litter Registration Limitation Guidelines have now been included in
Section 8 of ANKC Regulations Part 6.
Whilst delegates noted the work completed regarding this matter, they also
supported a suggestion by Mrs Neddermeyer that a survey template should
be made available to assist National Breed Councils and Clubs when
preparing their own surveys.
Dr Hedberg agreed to arrange for a template to be made available.
2.3
Amendment to ANKC Regulations Part 13, Clause 4.2.5
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.2)
Discussed:
Discussed:
Oct 08, Item 7.1
Jul 09, Item 2.14
CCCQ
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That the ANKC Regulations 13 Part 4.2.5 that states that 'where a National
Show is held, no Challenge Certificates shall be awarded for the breed/s
involved in the National Show, within a radius of 1000km from the show on
that day/s' be amended to reduce the distance from 1000km to 500km
Rationale:
The distance is excessive and is causing problems in Qld. For example the
National Dalmatian Show on 18 April 2010 to be hosted by Dalmatian Club of
NSW causes a problem with the Kennel Association of Queensland Show
(one of Qld's oldest Club Shows) as no Challenge Certificates can be given at
this Show. The CCCQ at present cannot award Challenges when a National
Show is held in Sydney (733km) or Canberra (945km), this is felt to be very
excessive. The ACTCA is also greatly affected at present and cannot award
Challenges when a National Show is held in any of the 'Eastern Capitals'
(including Adelaide). I attach below a table of distances for reference.
Brisbane Sydney Canberra Melbourne Hobart
0
733
945
1373
1788
Brisbane
733
0
247.4
712
1056
Sydney
945
247.4
0
465
857
Canberra
1373
712
465
0
597
Melbourne
1788
1056
857
597
0
Hobart
1600
1161
958
654
1161
Adelaide
Adelaide
1600
1161
958
654
1161
0
It was RESOLVED that the ANKC Regulations 13 Part 4.2.5 that states that
'where a National Show is held, no Challenge Certificates shall be awarded
for the breed/s involved in the National Show, within a radius of 1000km from
the show on that day/s' be amended to reduce the distance from 1000km to
500km.
It was unanimously RESOLVED that the change to Regulations 13 Part 4.2.5
be implemented from 1 January 2010.
Mrs. Merchant referred delegates to the recommendation from the NBSCG
contained in their tabled report.
Delegates concurred with the recommendation that the change to the
distance in Clause 4.2.5 from 1000kms to 500kms should revert back to
1000km to protect national shows.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of G Acreman/J MacDonald
that the NBSCG recommendation be endorsed that the ANKC delegates
reconsider their decision moved at the 2008 ANKC Conference to reduce the
distance from 1000 km to 500 km where Challenge Certificates cannot be
awarded on day/s a National Show is conducted. It is recommended that the
distance of1000 km radius remain and the regulation convert to the previous
wording of:
“Where a National Show is held, no Challenge Certificates shall be awarded
for the breed/s involved in the National Show, within a radius of 1000km from
the show on that day/s.”
Discussion revealed that the majority of delegates agreed there was a need to
support National Breed Councils and National Shows.
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It was RESOLVED that the ANKC adopt the recommendation for the ANKC
delegates to reconsider their decision moved at the 2008 ANKC Conference
to reduce the distance from 1000 km to 500 km where Challenge Certificates
cannot be awarded on day/s a National Show is conducted in Regulations
Part 13 Clause 4.2.5 and for the distance of 1000 km radius remain and for
the regulation to convert back to the previous wording of:
“Where a National Show is held, no Challenge Certificates shall be awarded
for the breed/s involved in the National Show, within a radius of 1000km from
the show on that day/s.”
It was RESOLVED that the new regulation is to take effective from 1 March
2010.
Noted.
2.4
Allowable Colours Listing
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.3)
Discussed:
Jul 09, Item 5.1
National Bull Terrier Council
THAT the changes to allowable colours in breeds, taken effect on April 1st
2009 be revised immediately, and ANKC must consult with the individual
breed councils/ clubs & breed standards, to obtain a list of correct colours,
specific to each individual breed.
Rationale:
Current changes to allowable colours in force from April 1 this year do not
correctly represent colours as written in individual breed standards for all of
the breeds listed.
In a number of breeds, genetic colour patterns (eg. Tricolour , brindle, smut )
determine the colours & markings of offspring from specific colour matings.
This information if printed on pedigrees must be specific & correct, to future
reference for breeders, otherwise incorrect colour combinations will result
from breedings done for a deliberate colour or colour pattern.
As an example; with bull terriers/ bull terrier miniature……..tricolour is an
important colour pattern. Tricolour in particular, mated to white carrying
brindle produces rich colours of a full spectrum, including brindle. However
any colour mated to a colour without the brindle gene will produce a different
range of colours & NOT produce brindle offspring. Similarly reds & fawns with
smut markings produce a different range of colour intensity & markings to
parents with clear coats. Tri colour is currently changed to Black, Red &
white, or Brindle, Red & white………Red Smut & white would be classed as
Red, Black & white…………this information can be deceptive for dogs with
completely different colours & or genetic colour shadow.
It is a necessity for this information to be documented precisely.
Mrs. Merchant confirmed that the ANKC had recently resolved that the ANKC
Allowable Colours listing was to be discontinued as a mandatory document
for registration purposes and the colours, variations and patterns, as stated in
the current breed standards were to be the criteria for registration on the Main
Register.
This decision had been brought about due to the ongoing complaints and
confusion with the listing.
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Mrs. Merchant advised that the Allowable Colours listing had resulted from a
case where someone had tried to register a lilac Border Collie. She explained
that the majority of administrative staff in State Offices were not dog people.
She said she had total empathy to those who had difficulty with the listing but
questioned for instance what a Tri-colour was as it meant different things in
different breeds. Another was the issue of the colour Wheaten and whether
dogs should be registered as Wheaten and not extended colours.
Even though the listing had been well intentioned it had resulted in
considerable angst and this was hopefully resolved now with the new
decision.
Mr. Frost reminded delegates that the listing had been prepared by the
NBSCG under the direction of ANKC delegates. The Group had spent
considerable time and effort in reading and consulting the relevant breed
standards.
Discussion then followed with a number of delegates complaining that the
majority of National Breed Councils had not been consulted when the original
allowable colours listing was implemented and agreed the ANKC should be
requested to do so in future.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of P Berman/N Weeks that the
ANKC must consult with the individual Breed Councils/Breed Clubs & breed
standards, to obtain a list of correct colours, specific to each individual breed.
Delegates noted the recommendation however endorsed the electronic
decision made earlier in the year where the Allowable Colours listing was
discontinued as a mandatory document for registration with the colours,
variations and patterns as stated in the current Breed Standards to be the
criteria for registration on the Main Register. Dogs with colours, variations or
patterns not in the Breed Standard will be registered on the Limited Register.
Only patterns will be recorded, not the actual individual colours that make up
the pattern. Tri-colour will be recorded not the three colours that make up the
tri-colour, the same goes for Pied not the two colour that make a up pied.
Mr Frost confirmed the drop down listing of allowable colours on the national
database reflected what was in the breed standards.
It was noted that as Australia was not the Country of Origin or Development
for the majority of breeds we could not amend these breed standards as they
were controlled by overseas organizations such as the FCI, Kennel Club
(England) and the American Kennel Club.
Discussion followed with some delegates suggesting that perhaps those
affected National Breed Councils or Clubs could approach the overseas
organizations who own the breed standards and request for them to amend
the standards.
Mrs Gunter confirmed the reasoning behind the National Boxer Council
having white boxers banned from registration (Refer Regulations Part 6
Clause 6.2) was that dogs on the Limited Register were being bred from
because they were perceived to be a registered pedigree dogs.
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Mrs Merchant suggested that those Clubs and National Breed Councils who
have colour problems could follow the example of the National Boxer Council
and put forward submissions to the October 2010 ANKC Conference to
amend Regulations Part 6 Clause 6.2 Colours. The ANKC Administrator
confirmed the agenda for this conference closes as at COB Friday, 6 August
2010.
2.5
Change to Tri-Colour on Allowable Colours Listing
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.4)
Discussed:
Jul 09, Item 5.2
National Collie (Rough & Smooth) Council
The Collie (Rough & Smooth) Council (Australia) request an explanation from
the ANKC as to why the registered colour 'Tricolour' has been changed to
'Black, Tan & White'. We further request that in future the ANKC clearly
communicate the relevant information in relation to any proposed changes,
such as this one, to the affected National Breed Councils prior to
implementation of those changes.
Rationale:
The Collie (Rough & Smooth) Council (Australia) feel that the ANKC's move
to change the colour description on registration/pedigree certificates of Collies
(Rough & Smooth) will lead to confusion. The Breed Standards as written are
a concise description of the dogs themselves and we support the view that
the Standard is the ultimate authority. 'Tricolour' as a colour description of
Collies (Rough & Smooth) on the official paperwork is preferred by the Collie
(Rough & Smooth) Council (Australia) to the ANKC's description of Black,
White and Tan.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of J Cook/C Miller that in
future the ANKC clearly communicate the relevant information in relation to
any proposed changes, such as this one, to the affected National Breed
Councils/Breed Clubs prior to implementation of those changes.
Delegates noted the item and referred to discussions in 6.3.3 (Item 2.4 on this
agenda).
Noted.
2.6
Name of New Breeds
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.5)
Discussed:
Jul 09, Item 5.7
National Poodle Council
We request that the ANKC prevent any new breeds being registered with any
reference to poodle in the name (eg oodle or …..../poo).
Rationale:
1. That is derogatory to the poodle breed.
2. It gives a false impression that it is a legitimate pure breed as opposed to
a cross breed or mongrel.
3. It conveys to the general public the impression that these dogs have the
same predictable attributes as pure bred poodles – eg. Non shedding
coat or lack of typical dog body odour.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of J Sculac/J Harvey that the
ANKC Regulations Clause 10.2.1 be amended to read:
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“Any new breed or breed of dog under development must have a unique
breed name, and is not a combination of recognized breed names or part of a
recognized breed name and it must be pertinent to the purpose of the breed.”
It was unanimously RESOLVED that the ANKC adopt the recommendation for
ANKC Regulations Clause 10.2.1 to be amended to read:
“Any new breed or breed of dog under development must have a unique
breed name, and is not a combination of recognized breed names or part of a
recognized breed name and it must be pertinent to the purpose of the breed”.
Noted.
2.7
Rottweiler Breed Standard Extension (BSE) – Tail Carriages
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.6)
Discussed:
Jul 09, Item 5.8
National Rottweiler Council
To include the ADRK Pictorial Explanations of acceptable and non acceptable
tail carriages in the ANKC Extended Rottweiler Breed Standard."
Rationale:
There is a misunderstanding on the part of some judges in Australia as to the
acceptable tail carriages due to the ambiguous wording in the Breed
Standard. The ADRK Pictorial Explanation shows very clearly that only the
fourth picture tail carriage in unacceptable. (refer below)
Mr. MacDonald advised that the Rottweiler breed standard on the ANKC
website was not correct and they believed by adding this to the breed
standard extension it would resolve the matter.
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It was RESOLVED on the motion of J MacDonald/E Singer that the ADRK
Pictorial Explanations of acceptable and non acceptable tail carriages be
included in the ANKC Extended Rottweiler Breed Standard.
For: National Basset Hound Council, National Border Collie Council, National
Boxer Council, National Bull Terrier Council, National Chihuahua Council,
National Dachshund Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National Poodle
Council, National Rottweiler Council, National Samoyed Council, National
Shetland Sheepdog, National Welsh Corgi Council, National Whippet Council
Against: National Tenterfield Terrier Council
Mr. MacDonald agreed, at the request of the ANKC Administrator, to arrange
for an email to be sent to the ANKC highlighting the anomalies they have with
the ANKC breed standard so she could follow these up with the NBSCG.
It was RESOLVED that the ANKC adopt the recommendation for the ADRK
Pictorial Explanations of acceptable and non acceptable tail carriages be
included in the ANKC Extended Rottweiler Breed Standard.
Delegates noted there were some translation anomalies which needed to be
rectified before it was included in the BSE and suggested the National
Rottweiler Council liaise with the NBSCG.
Delegates noted this matter had been dealt with.
2.8
Lifetime Protection of Prefixes
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.7)
Discussed:
Jul 09, Item 5.10
National Weimaraner Council
That Regulations Part 10 be amended to include the ability for National Breed
Councils to apply to protect historic prefix.
Rationale:
National Breed Council can submit names of prefix that they believe have
historic value to their breed in the country, a fee could be set for that the
National Council to pay to protect that prefix for a certain period of time. (Fee
and time to be determined)
Any national council has the option to take this and the cost be paid by the
national council.
Submission be made and fee’s paid by the particular National Council for the
period of time and then once that period is up renewal notice sent to the
National Council with in 12 months of expiry so the prefix can be renewed.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of L Bleakley/G Acreman that
Regulations Part 10 be amended to include the ability for National Breed
Councils to apply to protect historic prefix.
It was agreed it would be the decision of the delegates at the October 2009
Conference to determine whether a Working Party was required to determine
the criteria required and the Working Party could be formed at the October
Conference.
Delegates supported the recommendation however agreed they would need
to see the proposed amendments to the regulations before endorsement was
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given. It was agreed for Mr Bridgford and Miss Rushby to draft the required
amendments and for these to be circulated to Member Bodies for
endorsement.
It was noted this was work in progress and on the advice of Mr. Bridgford
would be completed for the October 2010 ANKC Conference.
2.9
Amendment to ANKC Regulations Part 13
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.8)
Discussed:
Jul 09, Item 5.12
National Whippet Council
The National Whippet Council requests that Clause 2.3.2 of the current ANKC
Regulations Part 13 be amended to allow multi breed clubs to host National
Breed Shows.
Rationale:
Currently the Whippet & Greyhound Club of SA Inc cannot host a single
breed National Show as they are considered a “multi breed” club.
This puts the Whippet Clubs at a disadvantage as there are only two Whippet
Clubs plus the “multi breed” Whippet & Greyhound Club.
This Council believes that all Clubs who pay full fees should be permitted to
host a National Breed Show. The Whippet & Greyhound Club of Sa Inc feel
they have been discriminated against by having to pay fees whilst they are
not entitled to the full benefits of being part of a National Breed Council.
It was generally agreed this would only apply where there were two Breed
Clubs and one Multi-Breed Club and not three Multi-Breed Clubs.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of N Harris/C Miller that
Clause 2.3.2 of the current ANKC Regulations Part 13 be amended to allow
multi breed clubs to host National Breed Shows.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of N Harris/C Miller that the
NBSCG recommended change to Clause 2.3.2 of Regulations Part 13 be
adopted. Clause 2.3.2 to read as follows:
2.3.2
Where members of Breed Clubs cannot comply with the requirements
of Clause 2.3.1 in that three (3) Specialist Breed Clubs, each affiliated
with a separate Member Body of the ANKC do not exist,
consideration will be given where two (2) Specialist Breed Clubs exist
and members actively interested in the breed are represented by a
“Breed type Multi-breed Club” i.e. “Setter Club”, “Spaniel Club” etc.
(but not a Group Club) in at least one (1) other State or Territory.
Membership of the two (2) Specialist Breed Clubs and the one (1)
“Breed type multi-breed Clubs” will be sufficient qualification to apply
for registration of a National Breed Council for the breed. The
membership qualification will not be accepted unless all of the clubs
are located in different States or Territories. Membership of the
National Breed Council will not qualify the “Breed type multi
breed club” to conduct a “National” Show. Membership of the
National Breed Council will qualify the “Breed type multi breed
club” to conduct a “National” Show for the single breed of that
National Council and not for the other breed/s covered by the
“Breed type multi breed club.
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It was unanimously RESOLVED that the ANKC adopt the recommendation to
change Clause 2.3.2 of Regulations Part 13. Clause 2.3.2 to read as follows:
2.3.2
Where members of Breed Clubs cannot comply with the requirements
of Clause 2.3.1 in that three (3) Specialist Breed Clubs, each affiliated
with a separate Member Body of the ANKC do not exist,
consideration will be given where two (2) Specialist Breed Clubs exist
and members actively interested in the breed are represented by a
“Breed type Multi-breed Club” i.e. “Setter Club”, “Spaniel Club” etc.
(but not a Group Club) in at least one (1) other State or Territory.
Membership of the two (2) Specialist Breed Clubs and the one (1)
“Breed type multi-breed Clubs” will be sufficient qualification to apply
for registration of a National Breed Council for the breed. The
membership qualification will not be accepted unless all of the clubs
are located in different States or Territories. Membership of the
National Breed Council will not qualify the “Breed type multi
breed club” to conduct a “National” Show. Membership of the
National Breed Council will qualify the “Breed type multi breed
club” to conduct a “National” Show for the single breed of that
National Council and not for the other breed/s covered by the
“Breed type multi breed club.
Noted.
2.10
Australian Canine Eye Scheme (ACES)
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 6.3.9)
Discussed:
Jul 09, Item 5.13
National Shetland Sheepdog Council
The National Shetland Sheepdog Council wishes to place the following Item
on the Agenda for the National Breed Councils Conference to be held on the
18th July, 2009.

Provision be made on the ACES forms for examining Ophthalmologist to
fill in their complete contact details, e.g., name, address & telephone
number, as well as their signature.
Rationale:
On the current ACES documentation, for eye examinations, there is only
provision for the examining Ophthalmologist to sign and print his/her name,
there is no where for other contact details e.g., address and telephone
numbers. These details need to be clearly endorsed on the ACES certificate,
in the event a concerned purchaser of a puppy, particularly one diagnosed
with a hereditary disease, knows who to contact if the need arises.
It was unanimously RESOLVED on the motion of G Acreman/N Weeks that
provision be made on the ACES forms for examining Ophthalmologist to fill in
their complete contact details, e.g., name, address & telephone number, as
well as their signature.
It was unanimously RESOLVED that the ANKC adopt the recommendation to
make provision on the ACES forms for examining Ophthalmologist to fill in
their complete contact details, e.g., name, address & telephone number, as
well as their signature.
The ANKC President confirmed he would liaise with the AVA on this matter.
Dr Hedberg confirmed she had attended a meeting with the AVA to discuss
the scheme along with the Hip & Elbow Schemes. Refer Item 8.1.
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[Note: Dr Hedberg has since confirmed this matter has been dealt with after
further discussions with the AVA.]
2.11
Bull Terriers and Bull Terrier (Miniatures) – Run Offs at Shows
(Refer Minutes 17.10.09, Item 7.1)
NATIONAL BULL TERRIER COUNCIL
THAT Bull Terriers do not run off against Bull Terrier (Miniature) for 'In-Show'
awards at Championship, Open or Specialty Shows conducted by state
member clubs."
Rationale:
The Bull Terrier and the Bull Terrier (Miniature) are recognised as two
separate breeds by the ANKC as well as their country of origin. Importantly in
the country of origin run offs are not held and as we follow their standard the
majority of clubs believe that run offs between the two breeds should cease.
This motion was received via email from the NBTC Secretary confirming that
it had been endorsed by the Member Clubs of the NBTC with a request for it
to be ratified by delegates at the October 2009 ANKC Conference.
There was no support for this motion and as a result it lapsed for want of a
mover.
It was noted on the advice from Mrs. D Cross that the National Bull Terrier
Council would be resubmitting this matter to the October 2010 ANKC
Conference and would ensure their State Member Body were aware of the
history and rationale behind this issue in order that they seek support at the
conference from the other Member Bodies.
3.
BUSINESS ARISING FROM PREVIOUS MINUTES:
Nil.
4.
REPORT FROM THE NATIONAL BREED STANDARDS COMMITTEE:
Delegates will receive an update report from the National Breed Standards
Coordinators Group (NBSCG).
Mr. Bridgford tabled a written report from the Group (copy attached) and explained it
dealt with issues on the agenda and could not be circulated prior to the meeting until
the Group had received the agenda and had had time to review it and prepare their
response.
Mrs Cowin referred to a recent request from the NBSCG where they had asked the
National Dobermann Council to provide them with permission from the original author
of the illustrations included in their proposed Breed Standard Extension (BSE). She
explained that unfortunately they were unable to do this and as a result had
investigated the cost of producing new illustrations which had proved to be very costly
and they would be asking the ANKC to consider paying this cost.
Mr. Bridgford stated that other National Breed Councils and Clubs had not
experienced the same problem and questioned if the NDC had contacted Mrs.
Davison who he understood had originally provided these illustrations as she had in
the past provided permission for other NBC’s and he could see no reason why she
would not do the same for the NDC.
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5.
ITEMS SUBMITTED BY NATIONAL BREED COUNCILS:
5.1
Pre 1987 Breed Standard
National Boxer Council
THAT the ANKC retain The Kennel Club (England) pre 1987 Boxer Standard
with the amendment for Tail description as agreed and approved by all
Affiliated Clubs of the National Boxer Council at their last meeting held in
Sydney on 11 April, 2009.
Rationale:
The Kennel Club (England) pre 1987 Boxer Standard is a complete and
thorough document which precisely details the blueprint for the Boxer as we
know it today. The only section in this standard which required modification is
a review of the “tail” description to bring it in line with current
climate/Legislative requirements in this Country. It refers solely to the set of
the tail and makes no mention of the word “docked” which is deemed to be
politically incorrect. All member clubs of the National Boxer Council endorsed
a new Boxer Breed extension on the 11 April, 2009, which was submitted to
the ANKC through the National Boxer Council and is currently being
considered. This document includes an excellent revision to the tail
description and only the revised tail description need be substituted in the
Kennel Club (England) pre 1987 Standard. This could also be easily
implemented for all previously docked breeds that previously opted for the
Kennel Club (England) pre 1987 Standard. Additionally, the Kennel Club
(England) pre 1987 Standards should be renamed to conform to Australian
requirements. History suggests that breeds who chose the Kennel Club
(England) pre 1987 Standards have never been given the option to change
these Standards in any form since they made the choice, it is therefore,
surprising that the ANKC, without consultation, has decided to discard the
Kennel Club (England) pre 1987 Standards that have described and served
these breeds so well over many years.
Ms Gunter explained she was also a designated spokesperson for the
National Old English Sheepdog Council who also had a similar motion on the
agenda, refer Item 5.3.
She understood there was a rescission motion before the Member Bodies to
rescind the October 2009 ANKC Conference motion and said that all they
wanted was the right to retain the Pre 1987 standard.
Mrs Egan expressed disappointment that the National Afghan Hound Council
had, like many other Councils, not been consulted with in terms of the Pre
1987 breed standard which they also held.
Discussion followed with many of those Councils who currently hold Pre 1987
standards also expressing their disappointment that no consultation with the
relevant Councils had been conducted prior to the October 2009 ANKC
Conference decision and as a result they had not been given the right to
choose what they wanted.
Mrs Merchant confirmed there was a motion being dealt with electronically by
the Member Bodies to rescind the October 2009 ANKC Conference decision
in respect of the Press Release and as such all work relating to this decision
had been put on hold but advised delegates that this meeting was their
opportunity to put forward what they wanted.
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Mr Bridgford confirmed that National Breed Councils could make a request to
adopt a breed standard however a survey would need to be conducted of all
owners of registered dogs.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of E Gunter/M Wheeler that a
recommendation be made that the ANKC retain The Kennel Club (England)
pre 1987 Boxer Standard with the amendment for tail description as agreed
and approved by all Affiliated Clubs of the National Boxer Council at their last
meeting held in Sydney on 11 April, 2009 – refer below:
“The tail attachment should be high. The tail should be preferably docked and
carried upwards and should, preferably, be not more than 5 cm (2 ins) long.
Note that the tail attachment is high on a slightly sloping croup. Regardless of
the length of the tail, it should be carried upwards on the move and whenever
the Boxer is alert.”
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
5.2
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Tenterfield Terrier Council, National Weimaraner Council,
National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council, National Samoyed Council
Pre 1987 Breed Standard
National British Bulldog Council
THAT the British Bulldog National Breeds Council Australia wishes to
continue to retain the pre-1987 British Bulldog Standard.
Rationale:
This matter was initially debated at a Breed Council Meeting, with an open
audience, that was held during the week of activities at the first National
British Bulldog Show held in Newcastle in 1988. All Bulldog Clubs in Australia
were represented. The decision was to reject the amended Standard
proposed by The Kennel Club (UK) and a strong request to be made to the
ANKC to allow the retention of the existing Standard. This request was
submitted to the ANKC via the then Administrator Mr. W. Kinsman and
eventually an official meeting was set-up between the ANKC and the
National British Bulldog Council (Australia) - aka NBBC(A).
The special meeting was held in Melbourne between an ANKC SubCommittee and the NBBC(A) at the RAS of Victoria Showgrounds. The
Subject: "The British Bulldog pre-1987 Breed Standard". The discussion
centered around changes made by The Kennel Club (UK) which had NOT
been discussed with the Bulldog Clubs in England.
Those in attendance were:
The AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL KENNEL COUNCIL: Mr. W. Crowley, Mr. R.
Lott and two (2) others.
The BRITISH BULLDOG NATIONAL COUNCIL (Aust): Mr. W. O'Hehir
(President), Mrs. J. Turton (Secretary), Mr. W. Stacey (V/Pres), Mr. C. Turton
(Delegate).
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The "pro's and cons" of the existing Standard and the new English Standard
were discussed in detail, at length by both Parties and many long standing
dedicated British Bulldog owners. The result was to recommend to the ANKC
that the pre-1987 Standard for British Bulldogs be retained. This
recommendation was approved at the following ANKC Conference.
It is interesting to note that prior to this meeting, The Kennel Club (UK) had
sent to the ANKC the list of changes it had made to the Breed Standards of
Australian indigenous Breeds. These were made without notice, question nor
reference to the ANKC or Australian Breed Clubs or breeders at any time!
After due consideration, the ANKC rejected the The Kennel Club (UK)'s edict!
Soon afterwards, The Kennel Club (UK) was advised that the ANKC had
become a full member of the FCI.
In February 2009, The Kennel Club (UK) made sweeping changes to many
Dog Breed Standards, mainly due to pressure from the BBC and the English
RSPCA. This was portrayed on British Television with a world wide coverage
and the British Press. The worst possible images of sickly, untypical,
unhealthy dog breeds were used and in many cases, the dogs on view should
have been kindly destroyed; (and some owners put in Mental homes).
The portrayal of dogs in such condition was evidence ruthlessly used by the
BBC against The Kennel Club in an ongoing battle over the right to film Crufts
Dog Show the previous year. In the case of the RSPCA, there had been an
ongoing major conflict between the RSPCA and The Kennel Club since the
major battle between the two bodies during the period when Mr. Martin
Sinnatt was Secretary of The Kennel Club.
The almost immediate reaction headed by the current Chairman of The
Kennel Club (UK), Mr. Irving could be considered by genuine dog lovers as
being that of a person being totally out of control. There is no doubt that the
TV images were not only literally obscene to most dog lovers, but
predominantly, they were not typical of the overall situation in the English dog
world. Undoubtedly, drastic action should have been taken via the respective
dog Breed Councils and Local Councils; also, in co-operation with the RSPCA
(if that was possible) against irresponsible owners and commentators!
Instead, The Kennel Club immediately took action against the majority of the
Breed Councils and their respective Breeds by way of forcing changes to
many Breed Standards.
As the National Breed Council for British Bulldogs in Australia, we do not
agree to the current Bulldog Standard owned by The Kennel Club (UK) and
reject the changes made by The Kennel Club (UK) to the Bulldog Breed in
England. These changes were made predominantly by academics and not the
English Bulldog Breed Council, nor its Breed Clubs.
Fortunately, our Australian Breed Council was rightly able to convince the
ANKC not to adopt the earlier Bulldog Breed Standard changes made by The
Kennel Club (UK) enabling our Breeders to continue to produce the healthy,
sound British Bulldog we have today -- using the "pre 1987 British Bulldog
Standard".
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It is interesting to note that our Breed Council requested a very respected
Bulldog breeder of long standing, ANKC judge Miss Salina Chan who lives in
Tasmania to do the drawings comparing the existing Bulldog we have in
Australia today and the proposed Bulldog as per The Kennel Club (UK)'s new
Standard. These were shown on British and Australian Television
simultaneously. Comments from breeders/owners and judges of Bulldogs in
many Countries are in agreement that the drawings of the new English
Standard were almost of the Australian (Aussie) Bulldog which of course is
not recognised by the ANKC. Owners of Australian (Aussie) Bulldogs also
agree. It is interesting to note that there was no written acknowledgement of
the situation by The Kennel Club (UK).
Another item of interest.
Subsequent to the English TV Programmes, a satellite Programme was
produced and broadcast in Australia. Our Members readily offered their dogs
available to the Producer/Presenter Ms. Jonnica Newby. The offers of cooperation were many. However, Miss Newby did not avail herself of them
except one or two. It was disappointing one of the Members who offered her
dogs and facilities is devoted to Obedience training and breeds specifically for
this sport. Apart from being successful in Australia, the dogs she has sent to
the USA have been very successful. However, as with the other dedicated
Bulldog owners, the appointments were not wanted by the
Presenter/Producer of the T.V. Programme which could not find any
detrimental viewing material to support the British criticism.
CONCLUSION:
British Bulldogs being bred and shown in Australia under the "pre-1987 British
Bulldog Standard" have maintained a very high Standard since the
commencement of The Breed Council. We thank the ANKC Personnel who
met with this Council resulting in the continuation of breeding the typical,
healthy, sound British Bulldogs which are so successful in the show rings
across the Country today.
We sincerely hope that the ANKC will allow our Breed to continue
successfully in the future.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of W Stacey/E Gunter that a
recommendation be made that the British Bulldog National Breeds Council
Australia wishes to continue to retain the pre-1987 British Bulldog Standard.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Tenterfield Terrier Council, National Weimaraner Council,
National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council, National Samoyed Council
Mr Stacey gave the Chairperson a copy of a submission the National British
Bulldog Council had provided to the Kennel Club (UK). Refer Attachment 5.2.
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5.3
Pre 1987 Breed Standard
National Old English Sheepdog Council
THAT the ANKC reverse the October ‘09 decision to cancel its policy of
choice of pre-1987 Breed Standards and of consultation on changes to Breed
Standards; and that the ANKC consult with the relevant Breed Councils
regarding any proposed changes to their Breed Standards, including any
proposal to take away the choice of staying with pre-1987 Kennel Club
Standards.
Rationale:
The ANKC decided in October 2009, without consultation with the breeds
concerned, to take away from breed Councils one of the primary reasons for
their creation – the right to be considered custodians of the Standards for their
breeds in Australia by being consulted on amendments to Breed Standards.
The ANKC’s Policy on Adopting Breed Standards – as still published on its
web site – states that where an amendment to a Standard is proposed, “The
ANKC policy does permit input from National Breed Councils\Breed Clubs
before the amendment is adopted”. Where a Club or Owner requests a
change to the breed Standard, the Policy says there must be an extensive
consultation process with owners, showing the advantages & disadvantages
of such a change. Yet in one stroke, the ANKC has not only shut out input
from the relevant National Councils but also made sweeping changes to their
Standards.
In the ANKC’s summary of the inaugural Conference of Breed Councils (29
August 1998), the Chairman of the National Breed Councils Liaison
Committee said ‘the main reason for the establishment of National Breed
Councils was not the conduct of National Shows...... The primary purpose for
the establishment of National Breed Councils was for the protection and
development of the breed on a National basis.... And to provide an avenue of
dialogue direct to the ANKC on all matters appertaining to that breed..... It
was the intention of the ANKC... that National Breed Councils take complete
control of their breed in this country.... all proposals for the development... for
the breed would come in the form of recommendations to the ANKC via the
National Breed Councils Liaison Committee.... all initiatives would now come
from them and not from the controlling bodies”. Mr Hugh Gent & Mr Roger
Bridgford were both present at that conference.
To the Old English Sheepdog fraternity in this country, maintaining the
integrity of our Breed Standard has always been paramount - and it needs
to be respected, sacrosanct. So much so, that when the National Old English
Sheepdog Council was given the opportunity by ANKC of changing the
Standard (the options being either Pre-1987, FCI, or country of
origin/development), all Australian OES Clubs voted unanimously to
retain our current Standard. The National Council has re-affirmed its
position in a recent vote, following the ANKC’s October ’09 decision.
Our pre-1987 Standard had been drawn up in the UK early last century (with
only those minor format changes required by ANKC of all Breed Standards, to
coordinate headings). It is also the basis of our Australian Extension to the
Breed Standard, which took more than a decade to draft and have approved.
To say that we are anxious to now retain this long-established Standard, and
these hard-fought-for breed 'milestones', is an understatement!
Indeed, we were very much given to understand by ANKC that our stronglyheld desire to retain this Standard would be honoured. In a letter to the
NOESC dated 20/7/94, the Chair of the ANKC's Breed Council Liaison
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Committee stated: "Re your approved standard of 1/1/94, from where I
stand there is absolutely no need for concern or risk as to its future. If
there were to be any changes in the future, it would have to be at the
request of your Council members through the National Breed Council
sub-committee of the ANKC, any request being recommended to the full
body would I am sure be approved... the canine fancy in Australia
were given the right to determine the standard that suits them best, you
cannot have anything more democratic than that, so please have no
concern."
It has always been our clear understanding that no changes to the Breed
Standard would be made other than through our National Council. This
commitment and reassurance given to us appears as if it is now being
dishonoured - with no real explanation, or opportunity given for consultation.
In fact, our Council has not even been informed by the ANKC of this
significant decision.
We feel strongly that we should be allowed to breed towards the timehonoured 'blueprint for perfection' already in place, rather than being tied to
constantly changing 'interpretations' from overseas, which often seem
designed to reflect more whatever certain factions are currently promoting in
the showring. Such self-serving agendas do not 'improve' a breed - but
merely 'change' it! In the case of the Old English Sheepdog, for instance, the
current English Kennel Club Standard's minimum height (making the breed
another 5.08 cm or two inches taller), will not produce healthier, sounder, or
better Old English Sheepdogs. Just bigger ones! Over the years, the
minimum height had already been increased by two inches from the original
Standard to our current requirement - so to now jump that up by another two
inches for no good reason achieves nothing productive. Particularly when you
consider that this breed has no listed maximum allowable height, so it is not
as if the way our Standard presently reads ever penalised bigger dogs! How
will this change ‘eliminate exaggeration’, which was the reason given by the
ANKC for its decision on October ’09 to cancel our right to consultation and
choice. Similarly, changing from a level to a scissor bite (which the current UK
Standard specifies) will alter not just a dog's dentition, but also the shape of
the jaw - in the process impacting negatively on the desired truncation of the
muzzle. Placing an emphasis on markings - as the KC Standard now does would also give rise to more 'cosmetic' considerations when OES are bred or
judged. Anything that places a focus on glamour ahead of functionality is in
our view a retrograde step. The reason the Old English Sheepdog fraternity
in Australia rejected the KC Standard (country of origin Standard, in our case)
is that it makes major changes to our breed – and not ones which will
‘eliminate exaggeration’.
It should be noted that the need for a tail description could easily be
incorporated into the pre-1987 Standard without 'changing' the rest of the dog.
We are very aware of current sensitivities regarding health and soundness,
and are cognizant of the need to address community concerns brought about
by the damaging documentary "Pedigree Dogs Exposed". However, to
change breeds for no constructive purpose is to ride roughshod over the
design blueprint put together by those breeds' founding fathers, not to
mention conscientious breeders and fanciers who have often dedicated their
lives, as well as huge financial resources, to get breeds to where they are
today. Only to then have them changed for no good reason. Over the years,
the English Standard for the OES has been altered significantly, and tinkered
with extensively. The thought that we could now be irrevocably tied to ongoing
changes not necessarily in the breed's best interest, is concerning in the
extreme. We want to maintain the integrity of our breed - not be held to
ransom by whims and vagaries of whatever is 'in fashion' overseas at the
time.
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This is why we wish to retain the right to consultation and choice – including
that to retain our current Pre-1987 Standard or to move to the US Standard
for the Old English Sheepdog (which is closer to the pre-1997 Standard than
the KC Standard), and ask for your support in helping to be consulted and
offered a choice. We ask for your support for those breed Councils which,
like us, were promised the input and consideration recently ‘cancelled’ by the
ANKC.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of E Gunter/M Cowin that a
recommendation be made that the ANKC reverse the October ‘09 decision to
cancel its policy of choice of pre-1987 Breed Standards and of consultation on
changes to Breed Standards; and that the ANKC consult with the relevant
Breed Councils regarding any proposed changes to their Breed Standards,
including any proposal to take away the choice of staying with pre-1987
Kennel Club Standards.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Samoyed Council, National Tenterfield Terrier Council,
National Weimaraner Council, National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council
Mr Knight advised he understood that a decision had been made some years
ago where breed standards could not be amended without prior consultation
with the relevant National Breed Council.
It was noted that in the current climate the ANKC could not be seen to still
promote an illegal activity such as tail docking and this had contributed to the
majority of ANKC delegates supporting the October 2009 decision.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of E Gunter/J De Jong that a
recommendation be made that when any matter to do with breeds is to be
considered by the ANKC for whatever reason, that the ANKC reach
agreement through consultation with all National Breed Councils concerned,
or where no National Breed Council exists then with relevant breed clubs.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Tenterfield Terrier
Council, National Weimaraner Council, National Welsh Corgi
Council
National Dachshund Council, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council
Mr Bridgford advised that this would not be workable as the suggested
consultation would be very time consuming and few if any decisions would be
achieved.
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5.4
Spokesperson for a Breed
National Golden Retriever Council
THAT in future any spokespeople for any breed should come from the
respective National Breed Council – not a breed club.
Rationale:
This arises from concerns following the president of one club acting as a
spokesperson for the Golden Retriever breed. It would be appropriate for
spokespeople to represent their breed through the breed council not from an
individual club.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of C Kaspura/B Knight that a
recommendation be made that in future any spokespeople for any breed
should come from the respective National Breed Council – not a breed club.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
5.5
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Samoyed Council, National Tenterfield
Terrier Council, National Weimaraner Council, National
Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council, National Labrador Retriever
Council
Notations on Pedigrees – Genetic Status
National Border Collie Council
THAT the ANKC be requested to include notations on pedigrees to indicate
the known Genetic Status of individuals.
Rationale:
- Ethical breeders DNA test breeding stock, where progeny is Clear by
Parentage for Multiple generations provision of genetic documentation
becomes unmanageable i.e. 4 generations of Clear by Parentage
requires copies of 96 certificates for a single puppy. The ANKC should
note the status of individuals by letters such as –
N - Normal
N/P – Normal by Parentage
C – Carrier
C/P – Carrier by Parentage
A – Affected
Example - NCL = N, N/P, C or A
Example - TNS = N, N/P, C or A
Example – CEA/CH = N, N/P, C, C/P or A
Health status is more important than titles and should be included on
pedigrees.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of J De Jong/E Gunter that a
recommendation be made that the ANKC be requested to include notations
on pedigrees to indicate the known Genetic Status of individuals.
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On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Abstain:
National Afghan Hound Council, National Borzoi Council,
National Boxer Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Dobermann Council,
German Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Golden
Retriever Council, National Samoyed Council, National
Tenterfield Terrier Council, National Weimaraner Council,
National Welsh Corgi Council
National British Bulldog Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth), National Dachshund Council, National Labrador
Retriever Council
Dr Hedberg explained that a meeting of the Canine Health & Welfare
Committee earlier in the year had developed a set of protocols which were
currently in the process of being approved by the ANKC.
5.6
Notations on Pedigrees – Hip & Elbow Score of Border Collies
National Border Collie Council
THAT the ANKC be requested to include notations on pedigrees to indicate
the hip and elbow Score of Border Collies.
Rationale:
Breeders who hip and elbow score their breeding stock should be able to
have the score recorded on pedigrees as such information is as important as
titles.
The majority of delegates understood the reasoning behind the National
Border Collie Council wanting to include these notations on pedigrees
however they did not believe it should be imposed on other breeds.
Dr Hedberg reminded delegates that they would need to provide permission
to include these notations from owners.
Mrs De Jong agreed for this matter to be referred to the National Canine
Health & Welfare Committee.
5.7
ANKC Procedure to amend a Breed Standard of an Australian Breed –
Rescission Motion
National Border Collie Council
THAT the ANKC rescind 7. ANKC procedure to amend the Breed Standard of
an Australian Breed 16th July 2009 (7. A moratorium of five (5) years will be
placed on any further amendments/changes to a breed standard for an
Australian breed once adopted.)
Rationale:
It is not in the best interests of pure breeds to restrict amendments to breed
standards to Intervals of half a decade, particularly when the pedigree dog
world is addressing public concerns of health and soundness. Dr Peter
Higgins, a veterinarian and spokesman for the ANKC, recently claimed in a
National publication “breeds standards are reviewed by the ANKC constantly,
if not yearly then at least every two years”, he says. “It is not something set in
stone; we say show us the science and we will work towards it.” “Breed
standards are about the soundness of the structure of a dog, beauty come
last.” Australian breeds are often in a developmental phase, examples are
the Tenterfield Terrier and Stumpy Tail Cattle Dog which recently developed.
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The Koolie/Coolie is likely to be developed in the future. A moratorium of five
years on amendments to breed standards will disadvantage the pure breed
dog world.
Moved by J De Jong, seconded S Shrigley that a recommendation be made
that the ANKC rescind 7. ANKC procedure to amend the Breed Standard of
an Australian Breed 16th July 2009 (7. A moratorium of five (5) years will be
placed on any further amendments/changes to a breed standard for an
Australian breed once adopted.)
On being put to the vote the motion was LOST.
For:
Against:
Abstain:
5.8
National Border Collie Council, National Tenterfield Terrier
Council
National Borzoi Council, National British Bulldog Council,
National Samoyed Council, National Welsh Corgi Council
National Afghan Hound Council, National Boxer Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Collie (Rough & Smooth), National Dachshund
Council, National Dobermann Council, German Shepherd
Dog Council, National Golden Retriever Council, National
Labrador Retriever Council, National Weimaraner Council
ANKC Regulations Part 13, Clause 4.2.5
National Border Collie Council
THAT the ANKC be requested to amend 4.2.5 to read: Where a National
show is held, no Challenge Certificates shall be awarded in Australia for the
breed/s involved in the National Show on that/those day/s.
Rationale:
The rule was amended to 500 km. [the change to above Clause 4.2.5 from
1000km to 500km to be implemented as from 1 January 2010. (Amended
10/08, 7.1)] without consultation with clubs which had already agreed to host
National Shows. The rule is discriminatory and should apply to the whole of
Australia or not at all.
Moved by J De Jong, seconded E Gunter that a recommendation be made
that the ANKC be requested to amend 4.2.5 to read: Where a National show
is held, no Challenge Certificates shall be awarded in Australia for the breed/s
involved in the National Show on that/those day/s.
On being put to the vote the motion was LOST.
For:
Against:
Abstain:
National Border Collie, National Boxer, National Collie
(Rough & Smooth), National Borzi Council
National Afghan Hound Council, National British Bulldog
Council, National Bullmastiff Council, National Bull Terrier
Council, National Dobermann Council, German Shepherd
Dog Council, National Samoyed Council, National Tenterfield
Terrier Council, National Welsh Corgi Council
National Dachshund Council, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Samoyed Council, National Weimaraner Council
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5.9
Hip Score Register
National Samoyed Council
THAT the ANKC approach the AVA to ask that the hip score register be an
open register and not closed.
Rationale:
Currently when a dog has it's hips evaluated the data is submitted to the AVA,
and because the registry isn't an open registry there is no way to research the
genetic quality of the dogs behind a particular prospective sire/dam. Selective
breeding for preventing or controlling hip dysplasia requires accurate
estimates of parameters in prospective breeding stock, at the moment we
have no way of evaluating the genetic "quality" of breeding stock other than
the result presented to us when the evaluation of hips is done under the AVA
scheme and the results of the dog evaluated are sent to the owner/breeder,
no research into the genetic background regarding a dogs hip score is
available. An open registry, administered the AVA the ANKC, or by a breeds
respective national body or state breed clubs, or an independent registry
organisation, would, be the easiest and fastest way to a short term solution
which would avail breeders a better quality of information.
In the UK where a similar scheme is administered, once the X-ray has been
scored, the result is returned to the vet, who relays it to the owner, and a copy
is sent to the Kennel Club for recording on the registration database and
publication in the Breed Records Supplement. It is possible to obtain a list of
all the dogs recorded on the database which have been hip scored; this report
shows the dog’s registered name and number, the date of birth, the hip score
attained, the date of examination and the HD scores for its parent, this makes
for a much better tool to evaluate genetic "quality" of a dog.
Apart from a dog's individual hip score the only other "tool" a breeder has to
determine if a dog should be used is "the breed average" and it is widely
acknowledged that this average is only of limited value as not all breeding
dogs have their hips scored. If a breeder were able to research not only a
particular dogs ancestry but also ascertain the quality of stock produced from
siblings parents grand parents etc. more informed choices could be made and
this can only benefit a breed in the long run.
It was agreed to refer this matter to the National Canine Health & Welfare
Committee to seek further clarification from the National Samoyed Council as
to whether this was breed specific.
6.
CORRESPONDENCE:
Nil.
7.
GENERAL BUSINESS:
7.1
Limited Register
National Samoyed Council
The limited register was designed to prevent dogs with breed defects from
being shown or bred. However, current trends are for breeders to put puppies
on the limit register to prevent buyers from showing and breeding perfectly
normal dogs. This trend is causing Limit registered dogs to be bred and
produce unregistered puppies. In the long term, this practice will only reduce
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the registered dog gene pool and severely impact on exhibit numbers at dog
shows.
Varying views were revealed during discussion on this matter with some
delegates believing the Limited Register supported breeders in preventing
buyers of Limited Registered dogs from breeding and showing these dogs.
The register was used by these breeders to register dogs and bitches which
are not worthy of being bred from or for those buyers who are not sure if they
want to show. It was seen by these breeders that the register gave breeders
the right to manage their stock.
On the other hand some delegates expressed concern that by allowing
breeders to register, in some cases, the majority of their litters on the Limited
Register, it alienated buyers from the general public. Many of those at the
meeting agreed they had commenced their involvement with the dog world
through the purchase of a pet.
Breeders should be proud to be able to breed sound dogs which can achieve
titles at shows. We need to continue promoting how we enjoy our hobby and
educate the public via an improved Public Relations campaign of who we are
and what we do.
Suggestions that the ANKC should consider changing the Limited Register
certificate which many considered to be too similar to that of the Main
Register certificate, as well as reviewing the cost of registering on the Limited
Register were discussed to deter breeders from registering the bulk of their
litters on this register.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of B Knight/E Gunter that a
recommendation be made that Item 7.1 be referred to the October 2010
ANKC Conference and the concerns of the National Breed Councils be
expressed.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Against:
Abstain:
8.
National Afghan Hound Council, National Border Collie
Council, National Borzoi Council, National Boxer Council,
National British Bulldog Council, National Bull Terrier Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Collie (Rough &
Smooth) Council, National Dobermann Council, German
Shepherd Dog Council Australia, National Tenterfield Terrier
Council, National Welsh Corgi Council
National Golden Retriever Council, National Labrador
Retriever Council, National Weimaraner Council
National Dachshund Council
OTHER BUSINESS:
8.1
Report on AVA Meeting
Dr Kedberg confirmed she had met in Brisbane in late May with Mark Lawrie
AVA President, Bill Twentyman (Kevin Doyle’s deputy CEO of National AVA),
several members of the AVA Board and three members from NZVA, one of
who liaised/represented the NZKC.
Fairly extensive discussions took place on various issues. The end result
though was good – CHEDS will continue and will incorporate the NZ data as
well as the scheme is too small to be economically viable in NZ. The NZ
reading system sends all plates via 2 readers which considerably increases
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both time and costs. The NZ people were reassured that the AVA readers
(which includes Wyburn, Lavelle, Allen etc) were scoring to a similar
acceptable level. Differences were discussed but these were felt to be
anecdotal.
Andrew Worth, the Senior Lecturer and Head of Small Animal Surgery at
Massey University (the NZ Veterinary School) was very pro PennHip, more so
because he constantly has to deal with the surgical rescues in both hips and
elbows.
The NZ people felt there had not been significant gains in the hip area but
however in the elbows there had been considerable improvement, mainly due
to a fairly hard attitude to elbow arthritis. Advice is being given against
breeding with Grade 2 and above.
Similar advice was thought to be needed (both NZVA and AVA) in the hip
scheme, where animals scoring well above their breed means should ideally
not be bred from.
The data that has been collected by the ANKC was discussed and Dr
Hedberg informed them we should shortly be in a position to update breed
means and ideally have a grand mean as well as a current 5 year rolling
breed mean. As soon as these were available, we would share these with
both organizations.
PennHip was discussed fairly thoroughly. It was felt that it is the better
diagnostic tool and has the added benefit of being able to be done earlier. It
was acknowledged that one could remove more animals than were desirable
in some cases as not all dogs with joint laxity went on to develop HD.
However, the majority did.
Dr Hedberg discussed the need to keep as much breeding stock available as
possible as many breeds were trying to control several diseases (as many as
4-5 in some cases) at any one time and we needed to keep as much genetic
diversity as possible. In order to do this we could not always be as hard as
was ideally acceptable. This was accepted and taken on board (to a
reasonable extent she felt). Certainly Andrew was keener to take the harder
line in the hip area.
Sires progeny results was also discussed and how that had dramatically
improved the GSD stats and they were all impressed on that front.
The lack of availability of the PennHip results and generational data was
acknowledged and Andrew was going to discuss this matter with Gail Smith
of PennHip on the Friday as he would be at the Conference. It was felt that if
this was available, it could assist the ANKC as well in the long run.
The Elbow scheme was also discussed in general. The prospect of giving
advice against breeding with severe elbow arthritis with the results was noted
and again all were in agreement that this type of breeding advice was well
worthwhile.
The end conclusion was that we (the AVA and definitely the ANKC) would
continue with CHEDS. The majority of breeds testing will probably continue to
use this system, ditto the NZKC. It was noted that all the major breeds heavily
rely on the CHEDS scheme. The PennHip data should be continued to be
collected and be made available for analysis (ideally to the ANKC as well).
Long term goals could be better evaluated down the road once the PennHip
data had more depth. Whether sires data could ever be developed via this
scheme is unknown at present.
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A decision to note on the paperwork of high hip scores (well above breed
averages) as being not suitable for breeding was accepted in general
principal by all present. This will probably go further forwards as a
recommendation to the Radiology Chapter.
8.2
ANKC NBC Affiliation Fees
Mrs Kaspura raised concerns regarding the increasing affiliation fees National
Breed Councils were expected to pay.
Delegates noted advice from the ANKC Administrator that at a number of
previous National Breed Council Conferences a National Breed Council
delegate had raised the issue of the fee and how it had been reviewed. This
had ultimately alerted ANKC delegates to the fact that no procedure had been
put in place for these fees to be reviewed and it was agreed that the fee
should be increased annually by CPI to avoid huge increases as had occurred
in the past.
8.3
Voting – National Breed Council Affiliate Clubs
Mrs Gunter questioned the voting of affiliate clubs in terms of National Breed
Council matters and in particular where a State may have multiple breed
clubs. She queried that where a member belongs to more than one club, it
could be seen to be ‘double dipping’ if they vote at both clubs and therefore
the independence of the process is not followed. Those States with only one
club are being disadvantaged.
Mr Bridgford confirmed that current ANKC regulations would override any
National Breed Council constitution on this matter.
It was RESOLVED on the motion of E Gunter/J De Jong that a
recommendation be made that the ANKC look at the irregularity of the voting
rights of National Breed Council affiliate clubs where a State may have
multiple breed clubs.
On being put to the vote the motion was CARRIED.
For:
Against:
Abstain:
8.
MEETING CLOSED:
National Border Collie Council, National Boxer Council,
National Bullmastiff Council, National Golden Retriever
Council, National Labrador Retriever Council, National
Weimaraner Council
National Afghan Hound Council, National British Bulldog,
National Dobermann Council, German Shepherd Dog
Council
National Borzi Council, National Bull Terrier Council, National
Collie (Rough & Smooth) Council, National Tenterfield
Terrier, National Welsh Corgi Council
There being no further business the meeting close at
2.00PM.
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