Minutes of the Meeting held
on Wednesday 21st January 2015
in the Filby Room, Police Headquarters, Jubilee House, Falconers Chase,
Wymondham, Norwich NR18 0WW
Present:
Joan Maughan – Independent Chair
Nigel Andrews – Tenancy Support Manager, Norwich City Council
Lorraryne Barrett - Head of Service, Community Services, Adult Care
Dawn Collins – Assistant Director of Nursing, Norfolk & Norwich University Hospital
(rep Jane Sayer)
Lyn Fabre Steve Fuller – Manager, Forwards and Futures
Terry Hicks – Assistant General Manager, West Norfolk, East of England
Ambulance Service NHS Trust
Walter Lloyd-Smith – Safeguarding Adults Lead, East Coast Community Health
Care
Peter McGuiness – Service Manager, Red Cross
Elizabeth Morgan – County Councillor, Norfolk County Council
Roger Morgan - Quality Assurance Manager, Community Services, Adult Care
Kate Rudkin – Head of Development and Operations, Age UK, Norfolk
Jackie Schneider – Head of Patient Safety, North Norfolk CCG
Howard Stanley – Senior Nurse and Safeguarding Adults Lead – Norfolk Clinical
Commissioning Groups (also rep Jackie Schneider)
William Styles – Govenor, HMP Norwich
Mark Talbot – Vice Chair, ARMC
Ann Taylor – Head of Social Care – Southern, Adult Social
Helen Thacker – Manager, Safeguarding Adults, Community Services, Adult Care
Julie Wvendth - Detective Superintendent, Norfolk Constabulary (rep Nick Dean)
Sue Austin – Business Support Officer, Safeguarding Adults, Adult Social Care
Item
Minute
Declarations of Interest - None reported
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Apologies for Absence
Jo Cook – Head of Social Care (Northern), Community
Services, Adult Care
Nick Dean – Acting Chief Constable, Norfolk
Constabulary
Jane Sayer – Director of Nursing, Quality & Patient
Safety, Norfolk & Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust
(representative Sarrana Burgess)
Andrea Wright – Head of Service, Mental health
Partnership, Community Services, Adult Care
Action
Confirmation of any part of the minutes that is
exempt under the Freedom of Information Act
State if Whole report or the Section number(s) involved:None
Exemption(s):- None
Approval of Minutes
The group agreed that the minutes of the 16th October
2014 represented an accurate record of that meeting and
they were to be finalised.
Signed as a definitive record of the meeting.
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(Chair of the meeting)
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Matters Arising from the previous meeting
Item 6: Matters Arising – CLSAP DC is no longer Chair
the CLSAP and WS has agreed to take this on. JM
expressed thanks to DC for chairing the CLSAPs.
Item 7: Matters Arising - RM has circulated the process of
DOLS orders to all care homes.
Item 7: Matters Arising – JM has not been able to confirm
a meeting with Norman Lamb but will be following this up.
WS is aware that Norman Lamb has a huge interest in
this and will speak directly to Norman and maybe he
could attend the April SAB. LM in agreement with this.
Item 7: Matters Arising – JM attended the independent
chairs meeting across county and the DOLS issue arose.
It was agreed that this is a Strategic role of the Board and
the group will be writing to government on this issue to
ensure concerns. JM to write letter.
Item 7: Matters Arising - Walter: National Chairs meeting:
LA in terms of assessments carried out – national
problem across – lack of assessors.
JM meeting – coroners – police? To look at areas. As
independent chair serious concerns safeguarding issues
for DOLS. Displaced to meet DOLS requirements. DOLS
concerns fed up through ADASS national issue.
JM: explained that there is money from NHS England left
for training healthcare staff in MCA/DoLS. Urgent
proposal from us to use money. There is in excess of
£50k.
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Will Styles
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Newsdesk
Housing - Nigel Andrews expressed concerns from
Housing Group colleagues in Housing and LA about the
number of concerns around neglect and circumstances
how people are currently living. This could have an
impact on their tenancy. There is a partnership chairs
group on 2nd February and JM will take this information
to the meeting. Now self-neglect is a category of abuse
this issue will become more of a significant concern.
Over 65 age group highest in England. Ambulance
service picking up. JM asked HT for self neglect figures,
but this data is not recorded in CareFirst.
Children Services already have a neglect strategy but not
Adult Services. JM will ask the Partnership Chairs about
whether neglect strategies have been set up elsewhere.
JM suggested this is a lead task for NSAB.
L Fabre asked why the private sector not represented on
housing sub group.
Nigel would feels housing should be involved. The
Housing Subgroup was tasked with drafting a Prevention
of Neglect Strategy. HT would like to be involved in this.
Howard suggested making links with other groups as
Childrens Services have done a lot of work on this so far.
WLS have found a useful paper from Camden Council,
from The High Risk Panel in Camden, and Multi-agency
responses to self neglect, hoarding and fire risk. He will
circulate the paper. KR will add to risk register.
Nigel
Andrews
Walter
Lloyd-Smith
Kate Rudkin
Safeguarding Adults Week - JM reminded the meeting
that safeguarding adults week is 7th September 2015
Action plan - JS to circulate and put in some context
Presentation on human trafficking co-ordinate Julie
Wvendth. Within human trafficking conference will
circulate details. Brief presentation to NSAB felt helpful to
have this. HT to approach Antonia Litten about this.
Care Act – The Board felt it would be useful to have a
presentation on the Care Act at April board as the
strategy will be out by then.
Peer review update – HT\JM to send this out to the board. Helen
Important to others partners scrutinised by health and
Thacker
well being board.
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Safeguarding adults review - currently running SAR
managed commissioned reports. Deborah Klee expected
report by end of June. Dissemination of lessons learnt.
HT has draft procedure setting up a meeting to discuss if
meets criteria for a SAR. SARs are costly need to look at
other models. HT will send current referral form round to
group. HS suggested a communications group to front
line staff.
Helen
Thacker
Funds – JM has heard formally from Norfolk Constabulary Helen
and health, they have both increased funding to the
Thacker
board. JM will be meeting with them both to discuss the
key areas of investment against the action plan. Karen
O’Hara is compiling an audit of current budget.
Communication strategy to be circulated board need
consensus.
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Communications Strategy
Not tabled but will be circulated to the board.
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Strategic Plan
As a result from the Peer review the board needed to
become more challenging and a restructuring proposal
has been drafted for agreement by the Board.
LB explained that JM had shared the strategic plan with
the management group and it was received well. WLS
suggested that housing\district councils sit on the
Business Group. Questions were raised by the Board What weight does the Business Group hold? What is CS
board like? What is the strategic role of the board? NA
suggested a housing rep is part of the main board.
JM explained that the board needs to change from having
an operational focus to being proactive strategically. RM
feels the new structure is right but the function of the
Business Group is key to making this work.
Julie is in support of new structure and asked what
representation of police would be required? How would
reporting mechanisms work? JM sees EGB as a
communications\steering group, they have direction from
NSAB and intelligence from subgroups\LSAP which will
be a tighter way of getting information through to the
board a triage process – board ask for information deliver
back intelligence – highlight issues to board.
Probation service – will become more significant and the
board feel they would make a valuable contribution to the
board. JM will arrange for them to be invited to the April
board.
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Helen
Thacker
District Councils – need to become funders, need to get
DC’s involved in LSAPS
WS suggested that maybe DWP would be beneficial as
the Care Act will include employment. It was suggested
inviting chamber of commerce and to try and engage
Business community links to LSAP. WS will invite DWP
to CLSAP.
Will Styles
LB to ensure there is a link to Children services board
through partnerships chairs board.
DVU are members of Chairs board and need to ensure
that links are formalised. Follow up at February chairs
meeting.
There will be 6 NSAB and 6 Business Group meetings in
a year inclusive of development day.
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Business Plan
LB explained that the business plan is themed around key
principles and there is a lot work to be done, but
timescales have to be achievable. 15 month plan has
governance in as well.
Agreement
In principle the restructuring proposal has been agreed by
a majority show of hands. April board will be the new
board.
JM to re-circulate structure chart. The priority is to restart
health subgroup.
Joan
Maughan\
Helen
Thacker
Rewrite of policies and procedures because of Care Act
being done by Learning, Improvement and Policy
subgroup. Agreed strategic plan will go on website and
key partners will also be provided with a copy.
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Open Space
WLS will circulate a high risk plan – picked up from
Camden
KR suggested action control list to be adopted – pull out
actions from NSAB as these will get round the team
quicker.
JM will inform who will be on the business group and who
will be on the board.
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Walter
Lloyd-Smith
Joan
Maughan\
Helen
Thacker
JM expressed thanks to HT for overseeing SAR, and
Joan
sorting other paperwork. Karen O’hara and her team have Maughan
worked really well in organising the SAB. Condolence
card to be sent to Jan Cant – JM will organise this.
Date of next meetings
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Thursday 16th April 2015
Wednesday 15th July 2015
Thursday 15th October 2015
NB: all meetings will be held from 10am to 1pm
All meetings will be held in Filby Room, Police
Headquarters, Jubilee House, Falconers Chase,
Wymondham, Norfolk NR18 0WW
Parking is available at Waitrose (across the road from
Police Headquarters). Please park in the numbered bays
closest to the footpath leading to the Police
Headquarters. No identification/parking permit is required
on your car.
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Actions from NSAB held on 21st January 2015
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Item
Lead
Matters Arising
Will Styles to speak directly to Norman and maybe he could
attend the April SAB.
Will Styles
Newsdesk
Housing Subgroup tasked to draft self-neglect strategy
Nigel Andrews
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WLS will circulate a paper from Camden Council, from The
High Risk Panel in Camden, and Multi-agency responses to
self neglect, hoarding and fire risk
Walter Lloyd-Smith
5
Add self neglect to risk register
Kate Rudkin
6
Peer Review update to be send round the Board.
Helen Thacker
7
Helen to send current referral form round the board regarding
criteria for SAR
Communications Strategy
Document to be distributed to the Board
Helen Thacker
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Helen Thacker
Strategic Plan
DWP to be invited to Central LSAP
Will Styles
10
Restructure
JM to re-circulate structure chart
Joan Maughan\
Helen Thacker
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JM will inform who will be on the business group and who will
be on the board.
Joan Maughan\Helen
Thacker
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Condolence card to be sent to Jan Cant
Joan Maughan
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