Discussions and Reply Reply to Mussetter:: There are limited data available on mud accumulations in pore spaces of streams in the study area of NW Branch. However, surveys of fine-grained sediments in pores have been completed along a 24-km reach of the South River in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia (Pizzuto et al., 2006). Along South River, an ongoing study of mercury contamination has necessitated monthly sampling of fine-grained sediments in a variety of environments, including within the porous gravel stream bed. Sediments are sampled at the downstream ends of pools in riffle-pool sequences, where deposition is likely. Samples are obtained from 12 locations along the study reach. At each site, samples are taken from each of three 0.5 m quadrants equally spaced across the width of the stream. Pore water and sediment are pumped from the subsurface within the quadrat using a hand-held Beckson bilge pump; the resulting slurry is collected into a bucket. Coarse sediment is allowed to settle, so only the silt and clay fraction is sampled. The volume of the slurry is recorded. Table 10.1 presents volumes of silt and clay sampled from the bed at 12 locations in the study area in March and April 2006. These volumetric data were converted to units of mass per unit bed area (M) using the following equation: M LV ss / As where L is the “wet” volume of sediment sampled (the samples listed in Table 1 were not dried, and therefore the volume listed includes both water and sediment), Vss is the ratio of solid volume to total volume of the sample, is the density of the sediment, and As is the area of the bed sampled. Values of these parameters used in the conversion are listed in Table 2. Table 1. Volume and mass per unit bed area of silt and clay stored in the bed of South River at 12 locations sampled in March and April 2006 (Pizzuto et al., 2006). Table 2. Parameters used to convert volumes in Table 1 to mass per unit bed area. Parameter Value Volume sampled (gallons) 15 2 Bed area sampled (ft ) 36 Slurry solid volume ratio 0.5 Unit weight of sediment (kg/m3) 1800 The average mass of silt and clay stored in the bed for all sites and both sampling dates is 0.05 kg/m2. These data suggest that considerable amounts of fine-grained sediment are indeed stored in gravel pores in mid-Atlantic streams of the East Coast, U.S.A. These data, of course, are hardly comprehensive, and although subsequent monthly sampling through December, 2006 confirms that these values are not unusual, much additional study is needed. Furthermore, these rather generalized observations are not sufficient to confirm the model used in the present simulations. Rather, they simply suggest that storage of silt and clay in pores of a gravel bed may be significant in the region. Detailed confirmation of the model used in this paper must await additional detailed study. The author is grateful for this discussion. Apparently there are important regional differences in how fine-grained sediments interact with gravel streambeds that should be investigated further. Reply to Reid: The author appreciates the opportunity to clarify the calculation procedure used in the model. The grain size distribution of the bed is updated at each time step, before any attempt is made to compute the silt-clay content of the gravel streambed. Thus, the model computations do reflect and hopefully account for changes in the texture of the streambed through time. This does not mean, of course, that the computations are actually correct or even realistic in detail, which could only be established through a detailed observational study in the field or laboratory. As the discussion indicates, no attempt has been made to explicitly account for mesoforms such as bars or pools and riffles. The detailed morphology of the channel wetted perimeter is certainly very likely to influence the extent of storage of silt and clay in gravel-bed rivers. Indeed, field studies by our research group on a gravel bed river in Virginia, U.S.A., implicate large woody debris accumulations in pools as the primary control on the extent of fine-grained sediment storage at this field site (Skalak and Pizzuto, 2006; Pizzuto et al, 2006). However, knowledge of “mesoscale” storage processes does not appear adequate at present to allow creation of a numerical model of these processes. Reply to Vide: The balance between sediment transport capacity, supply, and adjustment of the stream attributed to Lane that provides the basis for this comment applies to alluvial streams that are free to adjust their morphology. However, a variety of field observations suggest that streams of the study area are strongly influenced by bedrock exposures in the stream bed (Skalak, 2004), and by riparian vegetation that armors river banks (Allmendinger et al., 2005, Pizzuto and Meckelnburg, 1989). These streams are likely not entirely free to adjust their morphology, and should not be considered as traditional “alluvial” channels, but rather as channels that exhibit features of both bedrock and alluvial streams. For example, while urbanization has resulted in extensive incision in some areas (Trimble, 1997, Booth, 1990), many streams in mid-Atlantic urbanized watersheds have not incised deeply, and in many cases, incision cannot be demonstrated to have occurred at all (Hammer, 1972, Pizzuto et al., 2000). The model described in the paper includes this influence by representing bedrock explicitly as a dynamic component in the active layer of the bed. The author appreciates the opportunity to explain this aspect of the model in greater detail. Reply to Rennie: This discussion raises very important issues related to our ability to forecast the influence of climate and land use changes on rivers. The discussion notes that historical, stratigraphic studies lack detail, while modeling studies are generally poorly constrained. Our study was motivated by the need to provide detailed geomorphic information that could be used to model the influence of climate and land-use changes on fish populations in headwater streams of our study area. This goal required us to predict the grain size distribution of the bed, the fine-grained sediment content of the pores, the turbidity caused by suspended sediment, and flow velocities caused by a variety of discharges. While many of the processes included in the model could be verified by experimental or field observations, the boundary conditions required by the model that relate land use and climate changes to sediment supply and discharge are virtually untestable in significant detail, either by stratigraphic study or any other approach. The best one could really hope for is an adaptive modeling approach where model predictions are periodically adjusted after comparing model predictions to long term monitoring of changes observed in the field as they occur over decades. The discussion implicitly questions the value of modeling long term geomorphic processes influenced by changes in climate and land use. The author answers such questions by explicitly noting the difference between scientific goals and the necessity of making management decisions. The goal of science is to achieve an understanding of nature that is supported by observation. This goal almost by definition cannot be achieved by modeling alone, particularly when models are applied to future conditions. In the author’s view, the present study (and others like it) represents an extension of traditional scientific goals to provide “best guess” working hypotheses to managers for decision making purposes. Scientists always have the obligation, of course, of including realistic evaluation of model uncertainty when providing results such as these. In the discussion, it is suggested that models might be best evaluated by reproducing historical events. As noted, past changes to fluvial systems are accessible, at least in outline form, though stratigraphic studies. This approach indeed provides some of our best current opportunities to evaluate models of long term channel changes. Physical modeling studies can also prove useful in some instances. 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