IAF Informative Guidance for the Transition to ISO /IEC 17021 Response to Comments by IAF Members General All comments received during the comment period were reviewed and considered by the TF and the text amended considerably to reflect these comments before it was considered suitable for ballot. The letter ballot on the adoption of the above document was approved by 32 votes (for) to 9 votes (against). The text of the guidance can therefore not be amended without further ballot. However, the TF believes the attached clarification should resolve any uncertainty. Its text has been agreed with the TF members and reviewed by the Chairman of the IAF Technical Committee. Comments were received from 12 IAF members. In the majority of cases, these comments related to clauses 3.4 and 5 of the document. The TF has therefore attempted to respond to these comments by clause, rather than to each individual, and similar, comment. Clause 3.4 – Phased Approach Comments received from ema, IPAC, COFRAC, CNAS, BELCERT, FINAS Clause 3.4 does not mean that transition date of 15 September 2008 is extended in any way. However, there are occasions where a CB may not have finished the full reissue of, for example, new certificates with expiry dates or revised contracts by that time. This clause is intended to help avoid disruption to these customers and will mostly be for situations where (mostly large CBs) with 1000s of customers/ certificates may just not have the resources or time to completely reissue all certificates/contracts etc by 15 September 2008. However, the PROCESS for reissues/ etc must be complete (and that is what an AB accredits against) by 15 September 2008 – and any accreditation body should expect that many contracts/certificates etc should have been reissued by then. For example - some CBs did not previously have an expiration date on their certificates - if such a CB immediately changes its system to add an expiration date to certificates, and then re-issues each certificate upon re-certification to include an expiration date, then the CB has demonstrated conformance to the new standard---there is no extension. The aim is for the AB to be reasonable in recognising that to avoid disruption to CB clients and unnecessary cost and administration burden on CBs, the re-issuance should be allowed to fit with the normal re-certification cycle. Note that clause 3.2 proposes that CBs agree a transition plan with their AB and agree a date by which transition should have been completed, (ie. Before 15 September 2008), and clause 3.4 also proposes that CBs advise the date by which re-issues of certificates etc will have been completed. There should be no room for ambiguity and both AB and CB should be clearly aware of when the CB is in compliance with ISO/IEC 17021 and also when any outstanding issues such as the re-issue of certificates with expiry dates will be complete. Clause 5 - Nonconformities Comments received from ema COFRAC, SAS, CNAS, BELCERT, RVA, OAA, FINAS relating to the second paragraph. As indicated above, a CB must be in full compliance with ISO/IEC 17021 by 15 September 2008. Any nonconformities relating to ISO/IEC 17021 must have been closed down by that date before a new accreditation certificate can be issued. However, for example, where the re-issue of certificates with expiry dates or revised contracts is being conducted within the normal three year business cycle and has not been completed by 15 September 2008, this is an observation, not a nonconformity, noting that the date by which such issues will have been completed will have been agreed in advance with the AB. The TF would therefore contend that the door is not "wide open" (RvA) , as everything should have been agreed in advance with the AB. The proposal by SAS on clause 5 is more succinct and would have been incorporated had it been received earlier. Nonetheless, the intention of the clause is as described above and put more clearly by SAS.